Game 2009.140: Blue Jays at Tigers

by billfer on September 11, 2009 · 108 comments

in 2009 Season,Game Post

PREGAME: There was a time when the Blue Jays looked like they may be a surprise team. That was April when they took 3 of 4 from the Tigers and generally were winning with regularity. They even spent 44 days in 1st place. They played a lot of AL Central teams back then and there may be a chance that had something to do with it. The Jays are now 14 games below .500.

Tonight Toronto sends out the mustachioed Brian Tallet. He’s left handed. And he has a 5.31 ERA.

The Tigers send out there own trusty southpaw, Nate Robertson. If Nate’s pitching, I’ll be there. Through scheduling quirks, I will be at this Robertson start, and I was at the last one, and I was at the one before that too.

Your “I hope the top of the order is productive” lineup is:

  1. Raburn, LF
  2. Polanco, 2B
  3. Ordonez, RF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Thames, DH
  6. Inge, 3B
  7. Granderson, CF
  8. Laird, C
  9. Everett, SS

Toronto vs. Detroit – September 11, 2009 | MLB.com: Gameday

POSTGAME: Brian freakin’ Tallet . The Tigers fanned as many times as they got hits against Tallet. Tallet. Put this in the Bruce Chen disappointing offensive performance bucket. And I just don’t get it. Raburn is hitting. Thames is swinging the bat well. Maggs is up to .290. The Tigers have some guys hitting lefties well, but the team is still struggling at the dish.

I’ll give them credit for making things interesting in the 7th and 8th innings. They strung hits together, and Thames had himself one heck of a sac fly with the bases juiced. A sterling defensive inning in the top of the 8th and it felt like stuff was starting to lean in the Tigers favor, but the threat ended on a foul pop-up off the bat of Polanco and that was that.

Of course the offensive had to pick up 5 runs in the late innings just to tie the score as Nate Robertson was awful and channeled his inner Dontrelle and eventually left with a groin injury. His first 2 outings were very encouraging. This one the stadium gun had him at 85/86 (haven’t checked gameday yet), and Nate doesn’t really have a strong 85/86mph pitch.

Galarraga started off great and retired the first 5 guys he faced before reverting to Galarraga form. Ryan Perry didn’t help the matter. Runs just kept getting piled on.

Ugh.

The Tigers haven’t lost more than 4 in a row this season. It will be up to Edwin Jackson to get deep into the game and stop the slide and once again take command of their September.

 
 

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Coleman September 11, 2009 at 7:05 pm

Leyland clearly has been reading the comments here complaining about Inge’s bat which has been not very useful aside from providing a nice breeze.

So he moved him up to 6th in the order.

That will teach us. I blame Stephen.

Steve September 11, 2009 at 7:18 pm

As long as its Stephen and not Steven

Steve September 11, 2009 at 7:22 pm

What about David? Maybe a 3′ post about Inges attributes would help

Steve September 11, 2009 at 7:21 pm

We look to be doing Ok with Nate on the mound and I hope he gets better as the game goes on. Our success is due to a large park and the wind blowing in but hey we will take it.

How about those chops on Tallet

JAWS September 11, 2009 at 7:23 pm

What are the red hats for?

Steve September 11, 2009 at 7:24 pm

09/11/2001

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 7:34 pm

Wow, all the action’s in the outfield tonight…

That was pretty cool–seeing Polly with a full count…

Don’t look now but Nate’s about a start away from bumping Washburn from the designated lefty spot in the playoff rotation…

Steve September 11, 2009 at 7:39 pm

The Washburn thing does not appear to be working out. I hope Luke French is not a 211 – 86 career record guy in Seattle

Steve September 11, 2009 at 7:36 pm

Maggs looks areodynamic in the outfield tonight.

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 7:38 pm

The drag-reducing haircut has helped him out there

JAWS September 11, 2009 at 7:40 pm

red hats????

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 7:44 pm

The red hats beat the fatigue style jerseys the Padres have worn in the past…nice sentiment, poor execution

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 7:48 pm

Looks like Robertson is on pace to give us 4 or 5 innings tonight.

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 7:55 pm

Granderson is going to have to do better than that or he will be forced back to lead-off – no B.O.O.B. status for Curtis.

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 7:56 pm

It’s bad luck that we keep getting matchups with every team’s Cy Young candidate

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 8:04 pm

And with LH pitchers going for the Jays in each game this weekend, the Tigers get to see Cy three times.

Chris September 11, 2009 at 7:58 pm

Good job B.O.O.Bs at getting on base and making Tallet pitch

Steve September 11, 2009 at 7:59 pm

Boy even a decent throw looks like would have had him

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 7:59 pm

Yeah Leyland is practically conceding this one, bumping Inge from the B.O.O.B.s and throwing Curtis in there…

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 8:02 pm

Well shows what I know…Laird and Everett can handle B.O.O.B. duties just fine on their own

Steve September 11, 2009 at 8:07 pm

What kind of shape would we be in if the wind was blowing out. Nate has 5 walks and with the wind blowing out he could have 5 tates as well. I like Nate but he has gotten all the breaks and now has a spot to claim in the Rotation if he doesnt screw up

Lets go Nate !!!

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 8:09 pm

According to gameday Robertson is having difficulty spotting his 81MPH 2-seamer, 86MPH 4-seamer and 86MPH change. the 83MPH slider is OK though.

Steve September 11, 2009 at 8:13 pm

Holy COOOOOOOOW

Armondo is warming up.

Oh boy, I might have to have my first cigarette in 16 years, even with Todd Jones gone

Edit: Looks like an injury got Nate.

I hope I dont injure myself watch Armondo

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 8:18 pm

How many times this year have the Tigers taken a lead only to have our own pitcher surrender it the very next inning. Not that tonight it was a surprise. In fact with 11 baserunners in 3.2 innings the Jays probably should have had more than 2 runs off of him

Chris September 11, 2009 at 8:19 pm

It’s looking more like a season plunge that always begin by losing to the Royals. God, I hate these periods… and things were looking so good down in Tampa.

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 8:26 pm

Oh that was just frickin’ brilliant…

Cabrera has games where you just wonder how in the world he is hitting over .250, much less .330…and other games where you wonder how in the world anybody ever gets him out.

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 8:27 pm

Ordonez out stealing on strike three called to Cabrera on a pitch down the middle of the plate – amazing.

Steve September 11, 2009 at 8:31 pm

Vince “stealing” in its most liberal sense has some possession attributed to the act of stealing. The only thing Maggs stole there was a chance to get home on Thames next double.

I’m just sayin

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 8:30 pm

Yeah, two on, and….oh, Curtis up…

Chris September 11, 2009 at 8:31 pm

this team is playing horrible… batten down the hatches… get ready for the losing storm… get ready for the Twins

Jeff September 11, 2009 at 8:31 pm

Wow. Ordonez is a piece of s***. Can we use the proper word here? What happened on that double play?

Chris September 11, 2009 at 8:32 pm

what happened? mental retardation. that’s what happened.

Steve September 11, 2009 at 8:34 pm

Maybe Maggs was thinking about his ex and the cash is was going to cost to get that prefix

ouchudied September 11, 2009 at 8:33 pm

Ordonez singled and then got thrown out because he was running on the 3-2 pitch which Cabrera struck out on. How is that Magglio’s fault?

Jeff September 11, 2009 at 8:35 pm

He jogged after the 1st three steps. I don’t care if you get thrown out, but at least pretend you care about this thing.

ouchudied September 11, 2009 at 9:07 pm

Everybody who seen the leprechaun say YEAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!1

Jeff September 12, 2009 at 2:04 am

I want the gode. show me da gode!

Coleman September 12, 2009 at 2:23 pm

He’s a terror on a tricycle

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 8:34 pm

After the swearing was over I did appreciate the expression on Maggs’ face though…kind of a “hello, you can swing anytime now” fior Cabrera…

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 8:36 pm

On the bright side we may be looking at a better option for the Zach Miner role…

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 8:39 pm

I’ll say this about Tallet though: tallest fricken’ leprechaun I’ve ever seen…

Steve September 11, 2009 at 8:44 pm

And just K’d the side. Read your earlier comment. Tallet in the running for the Cy Young.

Come

On

Guys

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 8:48 pm

Yeah Ill give him the first time through the lineup–the batters need time to adjust to looking at the muttonchops. There’s no excuse for the 2nd time through though…

Mike in CT September 11, 2009 at 8:55 pm

Man…it’s looking like that off day after the Tampa sweep is like the layoff after the ALCS in October 2006….

Big Game James September 11, 2009 at 8:57 pm

I bet this is the Armando Texas thought they were trading away…

Chris September 11, 2009 at 9:00 pm

Our hope lies with Oakland & LA Angels as the Tigers are tanking… Does anybody remember August of ’06 or July of ’07?… Those times are with us again. Leyland and DD have got to find a way to stop the bleeding…

Walter55 September 11, 2009 at 9:02 pm

Man they are playing some pitiful baseball these last few games. I have no idea how we have given up 13 baserunners through 5 but only 3 runs and I really just don’t know how Cy Young Tallet is just eating us up. Good start to the inning though.

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 9:03 pm

I have been trying to find out our record vs. LH starters this year, but with no success. I am guessing we have a losing record against them. Anybody know offhand?

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:17 pm

We’re not bad, actually 23-18.

You must be paying too much attention to Curtis.

Normally though Cabrera hits lefties really well, and when he’s off like tonight that puts a damper on things…and next best is Inge and they’re just pitching around him. As usual in our bad games, we’re stuck in the every-other black-hole pattern: Ordonez hits, Cabrera whiffs/GIDPs. Then Thames hits, they pitch around Inge and Granderson whiffs, etc…

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:05 pm

For future reference: maybe rest Cabrera against Leprechauns. He has looked Everett-bad his last two ABs

Steve September 11, 2009 at 9:06 pm

Jim Price just pointed out we dont have an error, so we have that going our way. That a few hits and an HR and we are gold

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:09 pm

That’s twice in a row he pitched around Inge to get to Granderson

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:10 pm

And twice it worked.

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 9:11 pm

Granderson = faux B.O.O.B.

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:19 pm

Interestingly, once Granderson did say he sometimes frequents strip clubs…speaking of faux B.O.O.B.s…

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 9:15 pm

Bases loaded with a batter due up who hits .180 vs LH pitching. Do you let him hit in that situation?

Didn’t think so.

Chris September 11, 2009 at 9:12 pm

It’s amazing that Granderson was an allstar this year. He has been awful at the plate.

Mike in CT September 11, 2009 at 9:13 pm

agreed, murdered by fantasy team, too.

Tbone September 11, 2009 at 9:14 pm

Billfer should have stayed up north.

mcb September 11, 2009 at 9:15 pm

Coleman – any idea on Leyland’s career record in month of Sept?

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:25 pm

Don’t know.

Career Tiger Sept record for Leyland:
42 – 37 .531

Career Tiger overall record for Leyland:
332 293 .532

So yeah, he has a problem in September and it’s costing us wins at the rate of .001… :)

Big Game James September 11, 2009 at 10:29 pm

As the old maxim goes…

“baseball is a game of thousandths”

Mike in CT September 11, 2009 at 9:15 pm

Maybe Leyland was right to downplay all the positive talk after the winning streak. Is it possible the success got to the guy’s heads? Nobody is going to hand them the division…well…unless Minnesota and CWS keep tanking, too.

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 9:23 pm

Maybe they have a Jonah on board. Either that or its the team chemistry. ;-)

Chris September 11, 2009 at 9:20 pm

Congratulations Twins (or White Sox)… Tigers are going down hard.

Walter55 September 11, 2009 at 9:21 pm

Well here’s hoping that the Oakland and Angels can continue to win and win when they play because going to take a minor miracle to win this one. Really poor play from the Tigers.

T Smith September 11, 2009 at 9:23 pm

Will 80 wins take the division?

The Tigers look horrible. Just horrible.

Mike in CT September 11, 2009 at 9:25 pm

Well…on the bright side, the Jays are a fourth-place team at least.

Kathy September 11, 2009 at 9:25 pm

It’s making me sick!!!

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 9:27 pm

One positive way to look at this is that since the entire team is stinking up the joint right now, when they pull out of it, maybe they will all stop stinking at the same time. I just hope they don’t wait too long.

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:29 pm

I think this thread may now have climbed into Unforgivable Riot Enema territory…

Mcb September 11, 2009 at 9:31 pm

That Sept record is surprising. Edwin stops the slide tomorrow.

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:32 pm

I’m not sure if the extra runs are that big a deal…our only offense all game has been a sac fly driving in a guy who reached on an error

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:51 pm

Then again…

Neal September 11, 2009 at 9:35 pm

I’m really not really sure where that territory is, but it sounds like it would be ugly.
I thought that after yesterday, the Tigers would go 9-14 the rest of the year. I didn’t post it, I didn’t want to sound like a pessimist.
I post it now as an optimist.

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:55 pm

Yes, very ugly; you can’t imagine.

Actually I was referring back to this post from yeseterday:
http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/game-2009-139-tigers-at-rays/#comment-130201

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:37 pm

You know actually if Leyland hadn’t messed with the B.O.O.B.s and had Curtis 6th and Inge 7th we might have 3 runs already…oh well

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 9:39 pm

I see a steady diet of LH, rookies and Carl Pavano in the Tigers future.

Big Game James September 11, 2009 at 10:31 pm

Opposing managers refer to it as the “Cy Strategy”

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 10:36 pm

Luckily I’ve devised a response to this strategy, I refer to it as the “Sigh Response.”

Big Game James September 11, 2009 at 11:07 pm

I hear ya Coleman. There has been a lot of sighing on the Tigers behalf this week.

Too recap- the trades have sucked, the four game skid sucks, the offense lacks continuity, Grandy/bullpen/outfield defense have been frustrating. And to top it off, we learned tonight that Leyland is September terrible to the tune of .001.

Sunnier though is the fact that Inge has lost his taste for the check swing K, Maggs has regained some pop, and Spring Training I had this team battling for 3rd in the division with Cleveland. Compared to last year, it is really nice to care this late in September.

These Tigers are better on the field than on paper and have not sold out the future to get in this position, i.e. White Sox.

I’ll take timely hitting over last year’s all-star ham-sandwich lineup any day.

(Holy Cow, that’s a lot of optimism. Must be the coffee. I need to put the mug down.)

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:41 pm

We can still win this, we just need 4 more times with Laird on 3rd and Raburn at bat…

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 9:42 pm

Raburn, hitting .284 now, began the year 0-20 as I recall.

Mcb September 11, 2009 at 9:43 pm

9-1 Oakland

Mike in CT September 11, 2009 at 9:43 pm

Gum time?

Celery time?

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 9:46 pm

T.O.O.B.s

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:47 pm

Luckily the Blue Jays appear to be out of 7 ft tall Leprechauns to throw out there. This may not be such a bad series…

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:49 pm

Looking at Inge’s stats with bases loaded vs 2 on–they should have held the runner at 3rd…

Mike in CT September 11, 2009 at 9:51 pm

Man…Marcus missed that by, what, five feet?

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 9:51 pm

Accardo didn’t throw Inge a stike in that AB.

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:52 pm

It almost looked like he also was pitching around him…Inge showed him though!

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 9:57 pm

No “Y” !!
No “Y” !!

Mike in CT September 11, 2009 at 10:05 pm

Even though he makes every play an adventure, Raburn does have a gun.

Mike in CT September 11, 2009 at 10:04 pm

Everett — On fiiiiiiiire. (Two hits in a game counts as fire for him.)

Coleman September 11, 2009 at 10:07 pm

Oakland owns the Twins the way the Royals own us

mark_in_gr September 11, 2009 at 10:46 pm

Bright spots seem to be Everett is hitting more consistently and Rayburn had a great game offensively AND defensively. Good at bats by Marcus and Polanco. Let’s just hope this bullpen meltdown is very short lived. Think I will go out and chop wood next time Perry trots out to the mound.

Hopefully the offense can get to the starter a bit better in the coming days.

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 10:49 pm

I was just about to make snide comment with “Aubrey Huff” and “why bother” in the same sentence when just on a whim I thought I would check up on the Alex Rios pickup by the Hosers at the trade deadline. Believe it or not, he is actually doing worse than Huffandstuff. A lot worse. Along with the less than sterling results from Washbum, it makes me wonder if the late season pickup idea is even worth it.

Big Game James September 11, 2009 at 10:52 pm

Rios-when free costs too much.

Vince in MN September 11, 2009 at 11:01 pm

By his numbers, I’d say he has actually hurt the team.

Big Game James September 11, 2009 at 11:11 pm

I think we’ll finish okay against the Sox this year (bold, I know). Next year will be interesting if Rios and Peavy get it going again. I bet they do, hopefully it raises the quality of the division a bit.

mark_in_gr September 11, 2009 at 10:58 pm

Maybe we should all sign a petition and send it off to the commish stating that if the Tigers do take the division, that this year and this year only they be given a special option where they can play either the Twins or WS in each consecutive level of the post season. Then it would be a first, the battle of the team which wants to lose the most! We could have asked for them to play KC, but that wouldn’t work.

mark_in_gr September 11, 2009 at 11:05 pm

I MEAN . . . did anyone . . . I MEAN . . catch Ryan Perry . . . I MEAN . . on Tigers live . . . I MEAN . . . Profound analysis . . I MEAN . . . on his gigantic black hole . . . I MEAN . . . of a performance . . . I MEAN . . . tonight.

At least if the guy’s arm gives out he can jump on the international chess circuit!

stephen September 12, 2009 at 12:18 am

Sigh. What are you going to do? Having a dead end night in Manhattan, but reading the comments tonight warm my soul. Its good to have folks to commiserate with. Tomorrow is another day as noted sabermetrician Scarlett O’Hara once said after the Braves were swept by the 65 Mets.

Jeff September 12, 2009 at 2:06 am

i’m in manhattan too. why dead end?

Stephen September 12, 2009 at 2:26 am

there’s a woman involved, but i’m gonna try and keep this pg 13

Coleman September 12, 2009 at 2:15 pm

Things were going so well…then she noticed the Tiger cap…

“Are you a Tiger fan? That’s SO cool, because my all-time favorite player is Brandon Inge, I voted for him 1,000 times for the All-Star game…”

A mere few minutes later nothing was to be heard but the slam of a door and the click of heels hurrying across the pavement and the phrase “.230 lifetime hitter” echoing into the night…

Stephen September 12, 2009 at 4:42 pm

Coleman, you’ve hacked into my lifejournal blog yet again.

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