Game 2014.115: Tigers at Blue Jays

121 Comments

  1. jud

    August 9, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    Hey Brad…don’t do anything!
    Hey Tigers time to “man up”

  2. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 11:31 am

    Joe Nathan: ” I was in a tight spot with very good hitters, but again, I pitched my game.” See, that’s exactly the problem–what we got yesterday IS your game right now.

  3. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    Sanchez and Soria both to 15-day DL. Sanchez has a “Grade 2 pectoral muscle strain,” Soria a left oblique strain (I was afraid of that). Dombrowki estimates Sanchez will be out 3-4 weeks, Soria 2-3 (I think that’s being optimistic). Robby Ray gets the call-up to replace Sanchez, no word on who gets the Soria spot. Drew VerHagen is done by the way; he has a stress fracture in his spine.

    http://beck.mlblogs.com/2014/0.....15-day-dl/

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 1:30 pm

      Meanwhile Nathan remains as healthy and confident as can be. What could go wrong?

  4. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    Hey David you need to pitch a no-hitter and hope for a tie!!!

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 1:34 pm

      There goes the no-no.

  5. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    Here is something that always has bothered me and I only have Los Angeles as my sample size. Maybe you Detroit guys can verify. BUT..when the Tigers play out here never, and I mean never do more than 5-6 Tigets come out 5-7 minutes befor a game to run and stretch. Yes I know 9 guys start and two are pitcher and catcher…Never do 9 or 10 or more. I look over at the Angels and 10-15 guys are out 10-15 minutes before a game stretching Every game..Miggy for example usually walks out 2 minutes before the game wanders around and stays for the National Anthem. I have seen him play 10 games out here and not once hage I seen him do a serious stretch warm up. Victor, Jackson, Castalanos, Kinsler, Kelly would be the only ones doing some serious stretching, but never more than 5 minutes. Maybe this is nothing, but it has always bothered me. They did this under Leyland and Asmus both so its the players not necessarily the managers…

  6. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    They made the most they could with the gift from Toronto’s defense, otherwise they come up empty. And the rally ends with a typical Avila AB vs a lefty – who could have guessed.

  7. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    Great inning..good to see JD make a goid swing..everyone cracks Beurle that inning and Avikka takes 3 called K

  8. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 1:45 pm

    Really made Buerhle work that inning – 4 pitches, three outs. Whatever happened to the strategy of the offense taking a few pitches the inning after your pitcher had a long inning, to give him a little break?

  9. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    30 pitches first inning great approach grind out some at bats in the first…..lets grind out a few more at bats…no…not the swing at everything Tigers …4 pitches….oh by the way were done. 3 is all the hard work we have in us…lets get this game over with…

  10. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    Thats how much influence Asmus has on this team The whole post game last few days and the pregame today…we got to grind out at bats…we have to take a better approach….yadda yadda yadda! 4 pitches!

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 2:08 pm

      I get the impression that what Smokey Jr. says to the press and what he says to the team are not the same.

  11. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    The rumors of JD’s demise seem to have been premature.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 2:10 pm

      As are of Avila’s “getting going”.

  12. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    AleKKs

  13. TIGERS RULE

    August 10, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    Avila’s nickname should be The Statue.

    • TIGERS RULE

      August 10, 2014 at 2:40 pm

      Why was The Statue in the starting lineup today anyway ….. I know, another one of Assmus stupid decisions!

  14. Bill

    August 10, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    Best news I’ve heard in weeks. “The tigers are without their manager for the rest of the afternoon”

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 2:14 pm

      Now we get “Deadeye” Gene Lamont running the show. Not sure that is exactly a plus.

  15. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    Ausmus was ejected for what?

  16. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    An add on run giod job!

    Alex put his .000 BA on the line there with Runners on 2-3…whew! Saved by another K…only stranded 4 in 3 innings for our boy!

  17. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 2:20 pm

    Davis…hell ya!!!!…

  18. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    If Asmus got tossed for arguing a Alex Avila strikeout he is a very special stupid!!!

  19. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    Beurhle just what the Doctor ordered for 1 day..thats how we average 3 runs a game and lead the league…with 2-0-1-9

  20. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    Casty good thinking…steal third and then steal home with Avila batting so you can score!!!

  21. TIGERS RULE

    August 10, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Cross your fingers, have a stiff drink ….. it looks like we won’t be able to avoid our bullpen today!

  22. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    Now that Punching Bag Buehrle is out, I suppose we won’t score again – 1 hit in last 3+ innings. With the blowpen waiting, the 3-run lead looks pretty precarious, especially since we are in Closer territory.

  23. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 3:29 pm

    Scherzer at 106 pitches, just struck out the last 2 batters he faced, he sits for Nathan.
    Price at 106 pitches, just got drilled in the knee and gave up a 2-run bomb, he goes back out there.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 3:36 pm

      Like I said earlier, Lamont may not be an improvement over Ausmus. They both use the same pamphlet on managing a baseball game that Leyland wrote many years ago, which mostly avows going with your gut when you are not pushing buttons.

  24. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Here we go! I suggest some rum with this Coke.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 3:38 pm

      Hopefully it doesn’t go beyond letting the inherited runners scoring.

  25. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    Bad timing for a very rare misplay by Kinsler.

  26. TIGERS RULE

    August 10, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    The wheels are starting to fall off the wagon!

    • Coleman

      August 10, 2014 at 3:43 pm

      We’re riding on rims.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 3:44 pm

      36-39 in their last 75. The wheels fell off a long time ago.

  27. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 3:39 pm

    Coke vs Bautista is going to require something much stronger than rum.

  28. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 3:42 pm

    And Castellanos should have been able to get to that. This one isn’t on Coke.

  29. TIGERS RULE

    August 10, 2014 at 3:46 pm

    KC is ahead 7-1 in their game.

  30. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    Big Al comes up huge (with an assist from Alex)! The Tigers throw a spare back on the wagon.

  31. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    Avila makes up for his normally lousy day at the plate by framing that slider perfectly and then making an on the money throw to nail Reyes at 3rd.

  32. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    Can’t wait for Asmus to tell us how razor sharp Coke was out of the blowpen!

    Huge DP Al, AA, Casty!!!

  33. T Smith

    August 10, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    6 outs to go, Tigers bullpen tasked with holding a 1 run game. What are the odds?

    • Coleman

      August 10, 2014 at 4:07 pm

      Make that 3!

  34. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 4:00 pm

    Actually on the replay it looks like maybe Carrera got in there on time…is anyone on replay duty?

  35. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    4 batters, 5 outs, all on Ks. Nice.

  36. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Big Al strikes out the side, in fact he’s struck out every batter he has faced. I say bring him out for the 9th too.

  37. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    Al Al with a fine job!!!

  38. TIGERS RULE

    August 10, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    Hardy or Nathan ….. pick your poison.

  39. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    Let the real game begin!

    • Coleman

      August 10, 2014 at 4:15 pm

      I don’t like how these real games go.

      • Vince in MN

        August 10, 2014 at 4:26 pm

        In real games the Tigers lose in walk-off fashion.

  40. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    Tigers should have challenged theirs too.

    • jud

      August 10, 2014 at 4:25 pm

      Maybe u can’t when the manager gets tossed!

  41. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    Not like we haven’t seen this over and over and over and……..

  42. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    I am done…Tigers are done..see u tomorrow!

  43. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 4:28 pm

    Get Joba out of there.

  44. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    Just call him Joeba.

  45. T Smith

    August 10, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Torture. Pure torture.

    Our bullpen sucks.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 4:50 pm

      The bullpen isn’t the only thing that sucks.
      Offense vs Buehrle: 9 hits, 5 runs (2 earned) in 3.1 IP.
      Offense vs non-Buehrle: 4 hits, 2 BB, 0 runs in 7.2 IP.

      This re-run has been going on for almost half the season.

  46. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    Alex Avila, Mr. Extra Innings.

  47. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    I don’t like burning Carrera like that, bad move. Bench is now empty.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 5:36 pm

      Leyland managed teams have never gotten too many accolades for bench use. Or bench personnel to begin with, come to think of it.

  48. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    Hardy is probably done after the 12th. For the 13th pick your poison: Nathan or McCoy.

  49. TIGERS RULE

    August 10, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    Lettuce cost us a run with his poor base-running, and possibly a win.

    • Coleman

      August 10, 2014 at 6:05 pm

      Yeah. Then again he’s the only guy who managed a big hit.

  50. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Oh well. Tip of the cap to Hardy though!

  51. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    I think the Blue Jays are waiting for Nathan’s appearance, so they can rub it in.

  52. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Dave Dombrowski, the voice of Reason:
    http://www.freep.com/article/2.....ki-offense

  53. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    Can we invoke the unlimited substitution rule if the game goes past the 18th inning? I really want to get Don Kelly out of the lineup.

  54. TIGERS RULE

    August 10, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    What happens if you have a player ejected and have nobody left on the bench or in the bullpen?

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 6:32 pm

      One of the pitchers has to come in, and if they are all used up you forfeit the game. Rules are you have to field 9 players.

  55. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    I can’t believe that the Toronto pitching staff is only 11th in the AL. They have held the mighty Tigers scoreless for 11.2 consecutive innings now.

  56. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    Detroit has been shut out for 11 innings.

  57. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    Good move by Uncle Geno walking the two big bats.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 6:47 pm

      Good move by Toronto manager walking the big bat in the top of 16th.

  58. Kevin in Dallas

    August 10, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    It just feels like the Blue Jays are trying harder.

    • Coleman

      August 10, 2014 at 6:46 pm

      The home crowd might help.

  59. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    And now comes Nathan, this one almost has to end this way, right?

  60. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Nathan managed to get through the inning, but he is gassed. His FB is sitting at 91MPH. Time to get JV in there, since he is the most rested starter.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 6:59 pm

      That is if they want to win! The alternative is just sacrificing the game to keep the rotation intact.

  61. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    Let’s play two!

  62. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    Frankly, I’d rather skip JV’s start than Porcellos’s, but he has been better lately so maybe it is a wash. In any case it looks like an additional starter besides Ray is going to have to come up tomorrow.

  63. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    I haven’t seen JV in the dugout, he may have flown ahead to Pittsburgh already.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 7:16 pm

      Good point, that’s the normal procedure isn’t it.

      • Coleman

        August 10, 2014 at 7:18 pm

        They always do that for the long trips, I’m not sure about the Toronto to Pittsburgh type of trips.

  64. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    Ricky is pumped up, I like it.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 7:17 pm

      Hopefully he is good for 100 pitches, because he may need it.

      • Coleman

        August 10, 2014 at 7:18 pm

        JV probably has time to fly back.

        • Vince in MN

          August 10, 2014 at 7:23 pm

          Do they have a curfew in Toronto?

  65. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Rajai should get some sort of special hat for the 0-for-8 effort.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 7:23 pm

      He did walk once. Kelly might outdo him yet though.

      • Smoking Loon

        August 10, 2014 at 11:00 pm

        Call the 0-for-8 an Octopus, maybe. Meanwhile, Melky Cabrera walked 5 times. Nolan Reimold struck out 5 times. As noted, Torii Hunter had 9 LOB. But so did Jose Bautista.

        It’s sort of like neither team could bear to win this one. Toronto finally relented.

  66. Kevin in Dallas

    August 10, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Tigers’ pitchers’ K/BB: 16/13

  67. Coleman

    August 10, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    That makes 9 LOB for Two-Hop-Torii…how in the world do you pull that off when you have 4 hits?

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 7:31 pm

      They keep walking VMart to get to him. He’s 39 so he must be tired. As Ausmus would say, you have to know the player’s limits…

  68. Kevin in Dallas

    August 10, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    If we lose, we may very well be out of first place tomorrow night.

  69. Kevin in Dallas

    August 10, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    Momentum has swung back into our favor. Rally time.

    • Coleman

      August 10, 2014 at 7:32 pm

      The Rally Donkey starts it off.

    • Vince in MN

      August 10, 2014 at 7:33 pm

      There is no Big Mo in baseball, just skill mano a mano, that’s what makes it such a great game.

  70. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    Cy Jenkins into his 6th inning of shutout ball.

  71. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    Good old pitcher’s fielding.

    • Smoking Loon

      August 10, 2014 at 8:42 pm

      Good old Kinsler, slow to the bag and trying to barehand a ball he could have caught with his glove, his error all the way and his second costly miscue of the game.

      • Coleman

        August 10, 2014 at 8:49 pm

        The first was a routine DP but he tried to do it himself and end up making a weak flip to 1st moving away from the bag…a flip to Romine and it’s a DP. Big picture though, he’s played a brilliant 2nd this season.

        • Smoking Loon

          August 10, 2014 at 10:17 pm

          Oh yes, Kinsler has been outstanding at 2B, no question. Game-changing good many a time. Just not today. Not trying to put him down overall, but I wanted anyone who only saw the E for Porcello (who wasn’t entirely without blame) to know the details. It was also an incredibly good bunt by the talented Mr. Reyes.

  72. Vince in MN

    August 10, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    I think we can safely say that the better team won today. You don’t win if you don’t score. 15.2 consecutive goose eggs by the Motor City boys.

    • Kevin in Dallas

      August 10, 2014 at 7:48 pm

      This team has some real soul searching to do. There’s time enough to figure it out.

      • Vince in MN

        August 10, 2014 at 8:24 pm

        I don’t buy the soul searching argument. The sub-.500 results have been going on for a major portion of the last 75 games or so. That’s not a small sample size. Their losing streaks are as long as their winning ones for the most part (with the exception of the fast start being a bit better, but remember by comparison Colorado was a big surprise early on in the NL and what happened to them?). The basic problem in my view is that the team isn’t very well constructed: horrible bullpen, sub-par bench, holes in the regular lineup, Ausmus a weak manager, poor coaching, DD as usual concerned only with splashy upgrades while completely ignoring more basic issues (e.g. <1M/year supporting players in BP and bench). Now, no team is perfect and all have weak spots, but these particular issues are endemic to the organization and have been going on for at least the last 9 years or so, to the point where the results have become predictable. Every year, for the last few anyway, "The Tigers are going all the way", "One of the best teams in baseball", etc. are foisted on the Tiger fan at the beginning of the season only to have the team fall short of the lofty proclamations. It's all a snake oil scam, and after a 30-year hiatus the faithful are ready to buy buy buy and get emotionally caught up in the fevered expectations.
        It's not that they are underperforming, so much as they are over-rated (and again, I don't mean just the players). If one can begin to take on that view, it becomes more bearable. But you have to stop swallowing the b.s.

        • Smoking Loon

          August 10, 2014 at 9:16 pm

          I wouldn’t mind new ownership and a complete change of direction myself, even at the cost of some lean years. It’s been fun for a while, the small market Tigers pretending to be the New York Yankees. Maybe 2014 is the last hurrah for all that.

          But that’s for later. For now, the 2014 “product” is still more interesting and entertaining than that of 2013. Wouldn’t you say?

          • Vince in MN

            August 10, 2014 at 9:25 pm

            Maybe I’m just finally sick of same old routine after so many years. The Tigers of ’13 were certainly causing a lot of hair pulling at the end as their 13(?) game lead evaporated to 1 (and then the playoffs, but I’m actually trying to just compare the 162-schedule), but I don’t recall so much inconsistency for such an extended spell as this year. Maybe I’m blocking more bad memories than I am willing to admit though.

            No. I’m not. This year IS worse.

            • Smoking Loon

              August 10, 2014 at 10:39 pm

              I’d still maintain that 2013 was worse. (Valverde, V-Mart first half, Peralta suspension, Miggy playing injured, etc.) But August has been trying and is bound to become even more trying. Ask me again September 1.

              • Vince in MN

                August 11, 2014 at 10:16 am

                I remember some of the bad spells and more of the individual major fails, but was there a (~)76-game stretch last year where they were playing under .500? I’ll have to do some checking.

              • Vince in MN

                August 11, 2014 at 4:31 pm

                Loon, you can give it try, as your eyes might be sharper than mine, but I cannot find any long stretch from ’13 where the Tigers were under .500 which corresponds to this year’s team current -4 over 76 games. There are some ups and downs in there, but they always managed to stay a few games over the mediocre mark during any reasonably lengthy period. And although they lost a fair amount of games where the offensive output was low, there wasn’t as long a stretch where the bats were AWOL like this year (e.g. post-AS game).

                http://www.baseball-reference......2013.shtml

  73. Stephen

    August 10, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Same old, same old. Will make the playoffs because they’re expanded and/or weak division. But what they will do then? Guess you can catch lightning in a bottle.

  74. Stephen

    August 10, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    Radio: You have to look at the positive, the bright spots. Lose in 19, put closer on DL. Uh, OK!

  75. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    27 base runners and can’t score in 16 innings against the 11th ranked pitching staff……this is too unbelievable for words….how many of those LOB were Miggy, vMart, and Hunters at bats!!!!!.
    The only consulation is it gives them an excuse for dropping out of first tomorrow night….so long Royals

    • Smoking Loon

      August 10, 2014 at 10:49 pm

      Actually, I find 7 consecutive innings with no runs allowed from the Tigers bullpen – the actual bullpen, Porcello not included – more astounding than anything. I’m getting used to scoreless innings from the Tigers offense, doesn’t really faze me anymore.

  76. TIGERS RULE

    August 10, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    You didn’t think they were going to pull this off with the scrubs playing!

  77. jud

    August 10, 2014 at 10:19 pm

    Who are the scrubs and who are the real players???? Now thats the question…

  78. Kevin in Dallas

    August 11, 2014 at 5:07 am

    This team really is poorly managed; to wit:

    - Kinsler’s inability to turn the double play in the 7th
    - Castellanos moving out of position in a ground ball in the 7th
    - The Davis & Romine baserunning gaffes
    - Porcello not being able to field a bunt

    They just don’t play good, smart baseball. It’s a team-wide problem.

    • Vince in MN

      August 11, 2014 at 10:28 am

      Nobody is perfect and players will make physical and mental errors even if they practice the fundamentals regularly, but the Tigers seem to be more deficient in this area, if past history is any guide anyway. One has to wonder if this isn’t a long standing organizational defect.

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