Game 2013.139: Tigers at Red Sox

81-57, 1st place, by a lot.

No wonder the Boston faithful gave Jose Iglesias a standing O yesterday afternoon. Besides his double, he was the cornerstone in 3 double plays yesterday, the last of which demonstrated his ridiculous athleticism and baseball IQ. First of all, he pretty easily got to a ball well to the right of 2B. He then managed to contort his body and tag a passing runner near 2B with this glove hand, only to pull the ball out of this glove and make an accurate and timely throw to 1B, while moving in the wrong direction, to double up Pedroia.

If you’re John Farrell, how depressing is it to get beat so cleanly by Detroit yesterday, then look at today’s match-up and see Scherzer staring back at you. Mad Max threw 7 innings of 2 run ball versus the Bo Sox back on June 22. A win today would put him alongside the Rocket as the only players to start 20-1, and make him the only one who did it without artificial aid.

As good as Jon Lester is, he gets drilled by Detroit. Current Tigers hitters have combined for a career .413 average and 1.081 OPS in 124 plate appearances, and he has a 5.26 career ERA in six starts against Detroit.

A few notes:

– Did anyone else think that Napoli’s attempted take-out slide on Iglesias was far beyond the context of acceptable? Considering the Infante injury, I’d love to see someone address this on the mound, at the plate, or behind the podium.

I’m wondering if yesterday’s victory bought Miggy another day off. If we win today, I’d be shocked to see him in the lineup tomorrow with a scheduled off-day on Thursday.

– ALDS starts October 4th. MLB said it first, not me.

– If the Pirates win today, this will guarantee their first .500 season in 21 years.

– Prediction: Miggy hits a bomb today and wins the Triple Crown (at the end of the season).

Today’s Blackline Lineup (yes, those are real stats):

1. Jackson, CF
2. Hunter, RF (10-19)
3. Cabrera, 3B (10-16)
4. Fielder, 1B
5. Martinez, DH (6-10)
6. Infante, 2B
7. Tuiasosopa, LF
8. Pena, C (6-14)
9. Iglesias, SS


54 thoughts on “Game 2013.139: Tigers at Red Sox”

  1. I’m going with Pena as the POPG. He hit almost .400 in August, and hit Lester well before he even suddenly became a hitter. Heck, who knows, maybe he’ll even throw someone out. Never mind, let’s not get crazy.

  2. I wonder if they let Miggy back too soon? Is he fully healed? Lets see if he can run normally and do all the baseball plays without having to be pulled from a game ……. I doubt he is close to 100%. If he isn’t, he should not be out there. Winning games and trophies is not worth ruining your health!

  3. in Little League you keep your runners running all the way because no one could throw and no one could catch….Hey Brookens you need to go back there……that wa beyound brutal!!!

    1. Leyland said he was the best in baseball. Maybe I have underestimated Leyland’s baseball acumen!


    2. Gene Lamont was just a computer-generated program that gave random stop-go signals. The smart players (especially Cabrera) ignored him. Somehow Brookens is worse.

  4. Which pitcher do you start in Game 1 of the playoffs? It’s an interesting question. I’d like to add: which catcher? I say Pena, even though I know there’s about a 7% chance of that happening.

    1. Quick answer: No. I would have given him the entire Boston series off after we took the first game. With the off day coming this Thursday, that would have given Miggy six straight days off without playing. You watch him closely in batting practice in KC on Friday and if everything looks OK, then you green light him. If we had sat Miggy tonight and we won the game, I might even consider giving him the entire weekend off in KC too. Oh well. I didn’t actually see any of the game tonight. Did Miggy look bad in his at-bats???

      1. I think the problem is that he is not going to be healed without surgery–offseason, or season-ending surgery. So it isn’t a question of resting him until he’s completely better, because it isn’t happening, even if he’s shelved until the playoffs. But the less he plays, the fewer chances to make it worse. But you also don’t want him to go into the postseason cold. There’s your problem to solve.

        Remember when Inge was gutting it out playing with two knees that needed surgery? We were rightly annoyed: Inge without range at maybe 75% was just not worth it. But Cabrera at 75%…

    1. Outpitched. Red Sox are putting on a show tonight. If they’re taking turns, I hope the trend continues.

    1. Now, now. It was Jon Lester. Lester was dealing. The 3rd Tui strikeout, I’ll go along with that one being Tui helping him out a bit.

      Miggy didn’t eat his Wheaties. He seems healthy enough.

      1. There are guys–guys who’ve never had success–who just plain get hot. And Tui was hot. It was a little frustrating to see him sit so much when he was hot (he was hitting righties better than any of the lefties he was platooned for). Chris Shelton, Quintin Berry, Ryan Raburn for the last two months of two seasons in a row, it happens, and I think you play these guys until they cool off. I’m sure you can think of other examples. I think Tui Time is over now (hopefully I am wrong).

    1. Wow. What’s the second longest streak for a Tiger, currently? I’m guessing… hmmm… no idea. Pena at 4, maybe?

        1. You’re probably right about longest since Polanco, and I’m not sure how to (easily) look up something like that myself. But I only meant currently, for 2013. It seems like I’ve seen every Tigers hitter (besides Martinez) strike out fairly recently.

          Jhonny Peralta hasn’t struck out in about a month. That I’m pretty sure of.

  5. Are we getting an early look at the ALCS? I’d prefer comfortable Tigers wins, but these are good games.

    1. That’s the reason why some of these things which aren’t really a big deal right now, seem like a big deal. If we continue to run the bases like clowns and can’t stop the running game, that will be exploited mercilessly in the postseason.

      1. We’ve made a big deal of it all season. Nothing wrong with that.

        Ouch. Pena didn’t look too good there. Ouch.

        1. But back to running like clowns and not stopping the running game of the opponent. Sometimes the Tigers can overcome it and sometimes they can’t. Sometimes they will and sometimes they won’t. I don’t imagine it will change anytime soon.

          Brookens made a poor decision. Then again, Max made a few mistakes, just enough of them, capitalized on to the max by the Red Sox. Then again, Cabrera crapped out with the bases loaded. There’s some blame to go around.

          Good pitching on both sides. I thought the Tigers were going to hit Lester the way it was early. I guess he had a plan, and I guess it worked.

          It was only one inning, but hey, the Tigers bullpen didn’t implode.

    1. One playoff spot available. You can give it to Coke, or you can give it to Putkonen, or you can give it to someone else (Castellanos? They did it last year with Garcia). Would be a fun audience participation topic for a future post,

      1. My vote is Coke. As bad as he has been, its pretty tough to only have one left-handed reliever (Smyly) available in the postseason (assuming that Downs is not healthy). As long as Ol’ Smoky limits him to one or two batters at most I think we can get by with him. I like Putkonen a lot though and think he will be a decent middle relief guy for us over the next few seasons.

  6. Boston’s closer must be an illusionist. It’s good that the Tigers went down swinging, but maybe not quite like that.

  7. You know it’s getting bad when…
    Keating actually called out Brookens on the post game. Leyland, keeping Tommy well above the bus, said he’d have made the same call. (No he wouldn’t have. But I appreciate that he’s got his guys’ backs). That was potentially the difference in the game. I suppose things are going well when 3rd base coach makes the list of team problems, but it is a problem.

    1. It is beyond bad and its hard to believe that DD has not asked Ol’ Smoky to tell Brookens to play it more conservatively as the third base coach. This team has lots of proven hitters but is sorely lacking in speed. With that mind, why would you continue to send guys like VMart, Pena, Avila, Peralta (when he was here), and Cabby on balls that are at best going to be bang bang plays at the plate? He does it routinely with two outs and one out. About the only time that Tommy Boy ever puts up the stop sign is when there is nobody out.

      Lets see: No speed and lots of good hitters in the lineup that can drive in runs, I think I’ll send one of guys that runs likes he has a piano on his back. Its unbelievable that a guy can be this bad at his job and still keep it, especially with the stakes being so high for Ilitch and the Tigers. Brookens really is stealing money from the Tigers this year. Leyland’s refusal to do anything about it (lets not kid ourselves as this has been going on all season) is even more criminal. I know Brookens is one of his “guys”, but Ol’ Smoky’s refusal to step on anybody else’s toes is really hurting his ballclub. Sure the Tigers are in first place by 7.5 games, but how much further ahead could they be if they had a competent third base coach? How much further ahead could they be if they actually ran the bases as well as high school teams do? Its my belief that we could have an Atlanta-esque lead in the AL Central if we put any value on base running. The bigger the lead the earlier the division can be clinched, which in turn means the earlier you can set your postseason rotation and give regulars some days off in the final weeks of a long season.

    2. Ok, now I READ Leyland’s comments, and he said “make them make two good throws and they did. Tip your cap to them.” The Tip Your Cap is just too much! He was out by 15 feet!

  8. Lyn Henning jumps on the Under-the-Bus-Wagon: “Tigers need a base-coach at home plate. Just to laugh and hold up their arms and tell guys not to bother sliding because they’re dead.” (Lyn Henning tweet). This is hard stuff coming from Lyn The Mouthpiece. My guess is that Brookens is toast–but not now, no, before next season.

  9. Traditionally, I tape the games that start out here at 4 and watch them later. I avoid the internet and any other score machine channel. I had a bad feeling the 1 run would not hold up, and it was indeed the case. Saw the NESN poll that asked who would be in the ALCS. 44% said Sox and Tigers. 4% said neither… WTF!! This proves to me that you all are much smarter than most of the BB fans out there, and why every night I look forward to 2 things: my good nite kiss from the bride, and reading the comments on here. We MUST get a new 3rd base coach next season…..

  10. yesterday’s game had all the makings of a playoff game, good pitching with maybe one or two legit chances on offense (both teams)… when Lester got Cabrera to ground out with the bases loaded, I had a feeling that was going to be DET’s best/last chance.

    Scherzer was sharp and DET’s bullpen actually shined (Coke & Putkonen stranding 2 inherited runners w/nobody out…didn’t think that was possible). Offensively DET should get into playoff mode, need to move runners (i.e. Hunter two days in a row stranding AJ @ 2nd) and need to come up with a few hits w/RISP.

    Can Porcello continue the QS string today?

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