Game 2009.160: White Sox at Tigers

PREGAME: Edwin Jackson and Jake Peavy is the first pitching match-up Tigers fans care about tonight. The second one is Lenny DiNardo and Francisco Liriano Jeff Manship.

Peavy outdueled Eddie Bonine last time out despite Bonine’s fantastic outing. The Tigers fanned 8 times in 7 innings and could only muster 6 hits and 2 walks.

Jackson on the other hand was dinged for 5 runs in 7 innings when he faced the White Sox last time. He did only walk 1 batter though so the improved control was a good sign.

I wish I had something light and pithy or at least moderately insightful to add. Maybe I’m tense. Maybe the pressure is getting to me.

Chi White Sox vs. Detroit – October 2, 2009 | MLB.com: Gameday

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POSTGAME: My friends and I decided to splurge a little since this was the last game in our season ticket package and have dinner in the Tiger Club. For those who haven’t been, that is the glassed in area that hangs from the uper deck in right field.  They have a buffet with a 5 p.m. and 7 p.m. seating. We took in the 5 p.m. option so we could be in our seats in time for the game.

The buffet featured prime rib which delicious and marbled beautifully. Next to the prime rib was a personal favorite of mine, chicken oscar. You put asparagus and crab with anything and I’ll try it. Unfortunately the first batch was a little dry, I think it had been sitting under the lamp too long and the crab dried out. Fortunately they put out more that was delicious.

Around the corner from the chicken was ravioli florentine which was good enough to warrant a corner of each plate I prepared. There were green beans and sauteed vidalia onions as well as red skin mashed potatoes. The highlight for me though was a scallop and risotto dish.

There were cheeses and relish and salad options as well. I didn’t delve into those areas greatly. And for those who enjoy more traditional ball park food there were nachos and hot dog stations as well. Again, I passed.

I was already uncomfortably full though when I went for dessert. It was a monstrous Sanders hot fudge cream puff.  It was huge and wonderful and worth having to loosen my belt.

After paying our bill we went out to watch the game. Casey Fien and Clay Rapada did a nice job.

185 Comments

  1. Sam

    October 2, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    mlb.com shows Manship starting, are you sure it is Liriano?

  2. Tbone

    October 2, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    Tigers lineup:

    Granderson cf
    Polanco 2b
    Ordonez rf
    Cabrera 1b
    Huff dh
    Guillen lf
    Inge 3b
    Laird c
    Santiago ss,

  3. stephen

    October 2, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    If Inge can string together four strikeouts this weekend, he moves into the all-time, American League Top 20 for most strikeouts in a season. Ever. So, in reality, the magic number this weekend is two and four.

    • Jeff

      October 2, 2009 at 5:41 pm

      That’s just insane.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 6:42 pm

      Inge’s job in this one is to get hit by a Peavy pitch his first time up (after Ed-Jack hits a batter in the first), leading to Peavy’s ejection.

      Edit: That should be “The Frog’s ejection.”

  4. Matt

    October 2, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    It worked last time so let’s try this again:

    Last time we faced Pavano Peavy I played the “this cannot keep happening, tonight we beat up Pavano Peavy” card. Needless to say, it didn’t work.

    So today I’m going for the opposite strategy. Pavano Peavy is a brilliant pitcher worthy of the Cy Young award and tonight he will once again prove his dominance and shut down our formidable line-up.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 6:17 pm

      Well, we have to share credit, since you had the anti-Pavano anti-jinx jinx, and I had the Pavano anti-curse curse…stay tuned, I’m working on it…

  5. KW

    October 2, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    Well, ain’t this some stuff: http://beck.mlblogs.com/archiv.....ijare.html

    The Tigers get the ridiculous penalties again while the other team walks away scott free (even though the Twinkies had to apologize for their terrible pitcher).

    • Andrew

      October 2, 2009 at 6:20 pm

      Maybe it’s a blessing in disguise not having “hitting” coach Lloyd McClendon available tonight to offer the same expertise he has been giving our hitters all year.

      • Coleman

        October 2, 2009 at 6:28 pm

        I feel the same as I did after the Porcello travesty–I think it’s great for the team. These guys seem to thrive when they have a little bit of the chip-on-the-shoulder, we-don’t-get-no-respect, edge to them..good for team chemistry…

  6. charlie

    October 2, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    this is an important game…i don’t understand huff being anywhere in the lineup but batting 5th???

  7. stephen

    October 2, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Audrey is 0-11 career against Peavy and hitting .190 as a Tiger.
    He hits 5th.
    He’s due I suppose.

    • Jud

      October 2, 2009 at 7:02 pm

      exactly the warped thinking of JL

  8. Coleman

    October 2, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Hey, you know what? Jake Peavy looks like a frog!

    (Once again, as with the Pavano curse, The Google was my friend. “Peavy looks like a” brought up this amusing post as the first result–a White Sox fan, in reference to the Peavy to Sox rumors, saying, “Peavy looks like a frog…I hope this trade doesn’t happen” http://blogs.suntimes.com/whit.....e_sox.html)

    (I also had many other choices–Peavy looks like a lot of stuff apparently, including a “punk,” a “terrorist,” and a “giant banana.” [??] But gotta stick with the animal theme here…)

  9. Jud

    October 2, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Mario opens the conversation with this gem Polanco is back in the line up tonight and that is “probably” good…………..duh

    however Huff in the 5 stop i hope isn’t the kiss of death

    • Andrew

      October 2, 2009 at 7:22 pm

      Maybe Huff will “run into one” as Jim likes to say. I just hope he doesn’t hit into any double plays tonight.

  10. Mike in CT

    October 2, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Well…off to a lovely start.

  11. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    That’s not a great way to start…

  12. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Anybody else have a bad feeling about this last series against Chicago? After the implosion yesterday against the Twins, and a series with Chicago where we face Peavy who rocked us once already this year. Not to mention the Twins still red hot and facing the Royals…

  13. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Yep…I have that feeling…2 on, 1 out….Nothing from our clean-up guy or Huff…

    • Mike in CT

      October 2, 2009 at 7:23 pm

      You would like, at the very minimum, for Cabrera to at least swing the bat right there, no? That’s not asking too much from an “MVP Candidate”?

  14. Jud

    October 2, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Miggs the identical strike two and three duh no wonder your 2 for 20 against him

  15. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    The strike 2 on Cabrera was off the plate. The next pitch caught the edge of the plate. Why wasn’t Cabrera swinging to protect the plate after he knew the strike zone had been expanded?

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 7:27 pm

      Even so it looked better than Grandy’s AB…

      • Andrew

        October 2, 2009 at 7:30 pm

        Well, you’ve got me there – no doubt about it

  16. Jud

    October 2, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    if we are all wondering….. what is the Tigers record in the last three games of -06 07-08 could it be 0-9

    • Brenden

      October 2, 2009 at 7:32 pm

      That’s reassuring…

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 7:38 pm

      It’s 2-7

  17. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    Nice inning by Jackson there.

  18. West Coast Tiger

    October 2, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Granderson and Laird should only be allowed to bunt.

  19. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Hate to be the eternal pessimist, but I could seriously see Detroit losing this 0-1…We had a chance in the 1st do put up some runs, and now Peavy will be in cruise control, striking out a ton and getting a lot of early swings…

    • Mike in CT

      October 2, 2009 at 7:37 pm

      I feel the same way. Peavy is owning the outside corner and then getting feable waves and misses at everything else, notably Laird, who all of a sudden is swinging from the heels in every at bat.

      • Andrew

        October 2, 2009 at 7:45 pm

        Need to manufacture something with Santiago bunting his way on, perhaps?

  20. Jud

    October 2, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    I hope the Tigs are not hanging on the best chance of winning this whole thing is the Kansas City Royals!

    • Mike in CT

      October 2, 2009 at 7:44 pm

      KC owes them for 2006, right? Inge buying the champagne like Torii Hunter?

  21. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Heckuva throw on the putout by Laird! Nice :)

  22. Jud

    October 2, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Laird is ridiculous at throwing!!!!!!!!!!

  23. jaws79

    October 2, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Let’s hope that KC is watching the sign stealing and plays them! Cheaters never win in the long run and even though it is not ‘cheating’ it is an unwritten rule and unacceptable to play the way the Twins have. Hopefully it will get them tonight and tomorrow!!!

  24. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    It seems our best chance of winning this game is to drive up Peavy’s pitch count and chase him early….Unfortunately, I’m not seeing that pitchcount climb fast enough…

  25. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Can someone please hit it out of the infield?

  26. oldmancoyote

    October 2, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    This color guy is pissing me off.

    • Mike in CT

      October 2, 2009 at 7:55 pm

      Phillips of Sutcliffe, take your pick, both are awful.

    • jaws79

      October 2, 2009 at 7:59 pm

      rod allen knows everything–didn’t you know that? he even knows what people are thinking! he gets on my nerves too!!!

      • oldmancoyote

        October 2, 2009 at 8:01 pm

        I’m talking about the espn guys. I’d much rather hear Rod. The ESPN guy was saying he it “felt” like the Tiger team was nervous b/c they “blew” last night’s game and knew it. Ugh.

        • jaws79

          October 2, 2009 at 8:09 pm

          sry old man coyote–rod just infuriates me with his ‘know it all’ talk. wish he would stop some of that!

  27. Jud

    October 2, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    At least Peavy is doing something every other good pitcher does, and that’s handle the Tiger line up very easily

  28. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Crap…..

  29. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Walk him…set up the double play… Runs are at a serious premium tonight…

    • Brenden

      October 2, 2009 at 7:57 pm

      Nevermind…that works…for now.

  30. RoseTattoo

    October 2, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    Rod and Mario are sure loving them some White Sox tonight.

  31. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Where did that miss?

  32. ouchudied

    October 2, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    I’m sure all of those watching on gameday are wondering where pitch 5 of the Jermaine Dye at-bat was.

    • Andrew

      October 2, 2009 at 8:04 pm

      Right over the plate for a strike. Just because Laird was set up outside and had to move to catch it – it was either missed or the movement threw off the ump and he thought it was off the plate.

  33. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Wow…that was great…..

    This team always has a way of punking out on Jackson…offensively and defensively…

  34. Mike in CT

    October 2, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Thanks Guillen, hell of a play there.

    Sorry. not much insight there. Terrible way to give away another run — which feels like about 20 — at this point.

  35. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Tell me again why Guillen isn’t the DH and Raburn isn’t playing LF?

  36. Coleman

    October 2, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Nice Carlos…Inge should have gone for it like in the home opener…

  37. West Coast Tiger

    October 2, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    That should be an error. That was horrible.

  38. Joey in Portland OR

    October 2, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    um……………. get guillen a slip and slide out there, he apparently loves sliding for fun.

  39. Jud

    October 2, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    how can the Tigers have signed under contract the 3 worst left fielders in all of baseball Ra-y-burn Guillen and Thames…..you’d think they could find someone who can play there…

  40. Chris Y.

    October 2, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    From mlbtraderumors.com

    2010 MLB free agents – Left fielders

    Garret Anderson (38)
    Marlon Anderson (36)
    Jason Bay (31)
    Emil Brown (35)
    Marlon Byrd (32)
    Carl Crawford (28) – $10MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
    Johnny Damon (36)
    David Dellucci (36)
    Cliff Floyd (37)
    Matt Holliday (30)
    Reed Johnson (33)
    Jacque Jones (35)
    Gabe Kapler (34)
    Greg Norton (37)
    Wily Mo Pena (28)
    Manny Ramirez (38) – $20MM player option
    Dave Roberts (38)
    Gary Sheffield (41)
    Fernando Tatis (35)
    Randy Winn (36)

    • oldmancoyote

      October 2, 2009 at 8:08 pm

      jason bay? is he a possibility? what do people think?

      • Jeff

        October 2, 2009 at 8:25 pm

        No way they can afford him. Yankees and Red Sox will go hard after Holliday and Bay will probably go to the loser.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 8:09 pm

      Great…we can get rid of the 3 we have now and rotate Sheffied, Kapler, and Jacques Jones…

      • Jud

        October 2, 2009 at 8:17 pm

        not much difference defensively… Kapler might be the All Star in the whole group of 6 whats Bobby Higginson doing he is in that class

    • Jeff

      October 2, 2009 at 8:23 pm

      Granderson didn’t know how many outs there were when he caught the 3rd out.

      edit: didn’t mean to post here.

  41. Coleman

    October 2, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Pitcher has froglegs…

  42. Andrew in Toronto

    October 2, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    How did they score that a hit?

    Jackson did not look pleased!

    I agree, Guillen should be DH. Huff should be benched. And Rayburn or Thomas should be out there.

    • Andrew

      October 2, 2009 at 8:09 pm

      Thanks, Cabrera, I think I saw you do that yesterday. Nice to hear Huff getting hassled by the fans :)

      oops, didn’t mean to reply here

  43. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Got a gift there – Tigers need to do something with it.

  44. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    You are killing me Miguel…

  45. Coleman

    October 2, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    Ribbit…ribbit…ribbit…

  46. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    That’s the best at-bat I’ve seen Huff have since his HR against Toronto.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 8:15 pm

      Guillen and Inge both hit the ball hard…we’re gonna get to this frogman…

  47. Kathy

    October 2, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Only a true fan would be doing what I am doing now. Using my son’s computer at his house which was just broken into. They got the big TV and other goodies but left the computer. Tell me the score is wrong. I just will not accept a loss. My Internet Exlorer is down on my computer at home, there’s a full moon, and I’m feeling madness. Don’t know when I can post again. Night all. We gd better win this game! Go Tigers!!!! Over and out.

  48. Mike in CT

    October 2, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Sigh…anther Tiger ball dying on the warning track…

  49. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    This team is so absolutely frustrating…. They aren’t going to win this game, there is no magic, there is no clutch hits. The Twins are about to pull in the improbable “coming back from 3 games to win the division in the last four games”….

  50. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Ahh, another frustrating inning that merely teased us with the possibility of scoring a run or two.

  51. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    And we’re done….Might as well wait for the Royals-Twins game….Piss on it…

  52. jaws79

    October 2, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    The Tigers show no “HUNGER”! Without it they cannot win!

  53. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Is this a rerun? I’ve seen this Tigers episode before.

  54. Mike in CT

    October 2, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Off to a good start in Minny…not.

    1st and 3rd one out in the top and Brayan Pena GIDP. Fan-xxx-tastic.

  55. Coleman

    October 2, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    To add insult to injury, KC has 1st and 3rd, 1 out…GIDP

  56. Coleman

    October 2, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Is that a pitcher’s mound, or a lily pad? Ribbit…

  57. Coleman

    October 2, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Great, they’re going all web gem on us…awesome play…

  58. Joey in Portland OR

    October 2, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    run through the base without wasting energy making the ‘SAFE’ sign yourself please!

  59. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    And the Twins are leading…

    • Brenden

      October 2, 2009 at 8:28 pm

      And it’s about to get bigger…

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 8:31 pm

      “winning” is a bit of an understatement…that one has “game over” written all over it…

      • Coleman

        October 2, 2009 at 8:41 pm

        As does this. The 2-game season begins tomorrow…

  60. Coleman

    October 2, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Cmon Grandy, try to bunt yourself on or something, this is just looking futile

  61. Mike in CT

    October 2, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Delmon Young grand slam. Just great.

    • Randolph

      October 2, 2009 at 8:33 pm

      good to see kc decided to show up at the start of the game.

  62. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    5-0 Twinkies :(

  63. Joey in Portland OR

    October 2, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Delmon just got his revenge. Grand Slam.

  64. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Could this night get any worse….Twins are up big…Tigers are about to be down by 4….and the lead will shrink to 1….This team…. I can’t even type the vulgarities…

  65. Mike in CT

    October 2, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    I hate this kind of stuff, but hand it to the Twins, they are playing like a team that wants to get swept by the Yankees.

  66. RoseTattoo

    October 2, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Is there anything else on the teevee tonight?

  67. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    And who do we have starting tomorrow? Alfredo Figaro…Figaro is apparently suppose to save Porcello for the Playoffs… I vote Porcello starts tomorrow, because otherwise we aren’t going to the playoffs…

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 8:38 pm

      I hope that works out better than that “save Kenny Rogers for later in the World Series” maneuver…

    • Jeff

      October 2, 2009 at 8:43 pm

      It’s not “saving him for the playoffs.” It’s because he’d be pitching on short rest – not a recipe for success.

      • Randolph

        October 2, 2009 at 8:45 pm

        I’d rather see Verlander go tomorrow in a “must win game” and if need be pitch Porcello on sunday on normal rest.

        • Coleman

          October 2, 2009 at 8:50 pm

          What the heck…let Inge pitch. Bat Kelly 4th. Pinch-hit Everett for Ordonez. It’s not like it could be much worse…

        • Jeff

          October 2, 2009 at 8:50 pm

          I like your idea.

  68. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    What a nightmare

  69. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    Unbelievable…

  70. Jud

    October 2, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Starting Figaro will be the most incompetent move Leyland has every made and he leads the majors already, by far, in incompetent moves….its Porcello or nothing

  71. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    I don’t usually bail out on a game, but I’ve seen enough. Hope the Tigers prove me wrong and come from behind to win it, but I can’t stand to watch this.

  72. Joey in Portland OR

    October 2, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    wow, I really should have went to see Bruce Springsteen again at Giants stadium again tonight. this is NOT a good night. ugh. I guess at least being on the east coast I can go to bed earlier…

  73. Mike in CT

    October 2, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Suddenly shaky starting pitcher.
    No hitting.
    Shoddy fielding.
    Borderline incompotent managing.

    That’s how you make history….the bad kind of history.

    Absolutely no guts whatsover on this team.

    • Jeff

      October 2, 2009 at 8:47 pm

      “Absolutely no guts whatsover on this team.”

      That’s a ridiculous comment. What would make you say this?

      • Mike in CT

        October 2, 2009 at 8:50 pm

        Are you being sarcastic?

        This team is playing completely tight and scared. (One hit, too.)

        Down 8-0 in a nearly must-win game, yeah, that’s pretty gutsy.

        • Jeff

          October 2, 2009 at 8:55 pm

          Losing 8-0 = no guts? That’s absurd. It’s baseball. You play well one day, you don’t the next. You can’t draw any conclusions about “heart” or “guts” or effort purely from the result.

          • Mike in CT

            October 2, 2009 at 8:57 pm

            I won’t quibble back and forth, but when it got tight down the stretch, the team has collectively wilted under the pressure. To me that is a team lacking guts.

      • Coleman

        October 2, 2009 at 9:09 pm

        Brett Favre literally has no guts, and he does alright…

  74. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    I hope we get a Leyland rant out of this game… Maybe that’ll do some good…

  75. jcm

    October 2, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Dye was out the second time. The last one was also ko. But the chief umpire has surpassed Hernandez as the worst ever

  76. Michael

    October 2, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    HAHAHAHAHAHA. This team is so unbelievably indefensible. I mean. No urgency. Inge provides NOTHING in the field. He hits .220 and makes TONS of errors now. I mean. His knees are shot. Take a break, bro. Aubrey Huff. WHAT did you provide? So happy to just take a paycheck in Baltimore. You are BASICALLY depending on Greinke and the Royals to win a game tomorrow, and PRAY that you can win Sunday. This is HILARIOUS. I hope the Inge/Leyland worship STOPS now.

    But at least Polanco is rested. That’s good.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 8:57 pm

      Um, yeah, whatever. This ain’t the Freep message boards…the whole Inge is a crappy fielder bit–I mean even Stephen never goes there…and if you were to actually read anything here about Leyland…well it’s a strange form of worship is all I can say…

  77. Mike in CT

    October 2, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Twins have the bases loaded again, no outs in the 2nd with the immortal Victor Marte pitching for the Royals.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 9:01 pm

      Perhaps “Victor Martyr” would be more apt.

      • Mike in CT

        October 2, 2009 at 9:05 pm

        Guess the only upside is they still clinch if they win tomorrow and Sunday. Who knows, though, Ozzie Guillen might dig up Tom Seaver to pitch, so anything’s possible.

        • Brenden

          October 2, 2009 at 9:20 pm

          Or a waiver trade for Pavano…

  78. Coleman

    October 2, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    OK, I feel better now. The White Sox, like their manager, are very up and down, swayed by emotion. Tonight they will party. Hard. The next two are ours.

    • RoseTattoo

      October 2, 2009 at 9:14 pm

      Thanks for that Coleman. It’s not easy talking me off the ledge, but every little bit helps.

  79. Jeff

    October 2, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Twins face Greinke tomorrow. We get to face Garcia. Bottom line is, they lose and we win, it’s over tomorrow.

    • Chris Y.

      October 2, 2009 at 9:34 pm

      And this is what is miraculous. We really should be thankful. For all the hand-wrenching, and despite our preference for the Tigers, we have to know this is a blessing.

      Most teams with ~85 wins were eliminated a long time ago,; i.e. Texas, Seattle, SF, Cubbies, Rays. These are our peers.

      I will continue to pull hard, but it’s only a division pennant. My hope that this team can compete in the playoffs went on vacation a long time ago.

  80. mark_in_gr

    October 2, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    I will take this opportunity to official thank Sir Loyd McLendon for cultivating and INSPIRING one of the most stellar offensive lineups in all of baseball history. The heart, the spirit, the determination, and the all out never say die attitude of this offense speaks volumes.

    Ok, before you all flame me, we all know that historically any offense that leaves a trail of LOBs throughout the season like this team has is definitely the fault of coaching. There simply is no other explanation.

    Radio and TV announcers alike continue to spout off excuses of “This guy has great stuff . . . oh no, they are going to have a tough time facing “sillinininin” tomorrow night . . .” . . . so I suppose it’s safes to say that as long as we face Cleveland or scrub pitcher w/an 8.0 era or above, we will be shut down offensively . . .

    Hey, here’s an idea . . . let’s do nothing whatsoever within the organization in the offseason and run this same bunch out in 2010 . . . makes sense to me.

    Why is it that a team like the Twins have all those AL Central flags hanging up, 02, 04, 06 . . . with less than half the payroll, and the media in MI keeps focusing on 1984 and 1987? DD, why is that? Mr. Illitch, why is that? Do they have broadband in Sweden, homes?

    • Mike in CT

      October 2, 2009 at 9:26 pm

      I agree, the approach at the plate at times seems baffling, but its not the coaches swinging the sticks.

      One thing I have noticed from a coaching standpoint is the opposition defenders have the Tigers hitters scouted perfectly, meanwhile, well, let’s not talk about the recent outfield defense by the Tigers.

      • mark_in_gr

        October 2, 2009 at 9:34 pm

        True, they aren’t swinging the sticks, but someone has to be accountable for this systemic season long non-sense.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 10:08 pm

      McClendon is awesome, and the Tigers hitters would clearly be lost without him. Or weren’t you aware he was suspended tonight?

  81. Brenden

    October 2, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    What a bunch of bums…

    • mark_in_gr

      October 2, 2009 at 9:36 pm

      Come on, don’t be so hard on DD . . . he has amazing hair!

      • Coleman

        October 2, 2009 at 10:05 pm

        It’s not bad, but it’s not in the same league with Adam Everett hair…

  82. Michael

    October 2, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    You are right. This team is just what it is. Mediocre. In an awful division. I am saying, if this team blows this lead. I mean, thats twice in 4 seasons they’ve blown a division on the final weekend. And this time, no backup plan..

  83. stephen

    October 2, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    I decided I was too nervous to watch and watched Harold and Kumar instead thinking I’d click over and catch last three innings. And it’s already over. Sigh. Guillen can’t play the field ever again.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 10:04 pm

      Again?

  84. Andrew

    October 2, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Just for kicks (no, not like the butt kicking the Tigers & Royals have received tonight) lets say that the division is not secured before Sunday and Verlander pitches Sunday and the Tigers & Twins end up *gasp* tied. Porcello would pitch in the game at the baggy dome and if the Tigers manage a win who gets the ball in Game 1 against the Yankees? Jackson (I assume)?

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 10:09 pm

      Bominer.

      • stephen

        October 2, 2009 at 10:11 pm

        Milt Wilcox looked good the other night.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 10:13 pm

      Actually it makes less difference than you would think–if we clinch Sunday, the Yankees can elect to start the series on Tuesday. If we have a playoff, they lose that option and the series starts Wednesday. So with the playoff we burn whoever pitches the playoff game, but for the rest of the rotation there would actually end up being an extra day off…

  85. Coleman

    October 2, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    I’m feeling a bit bad for billfer right now…who clearly has consumed celery stalks by the score trying to think of SOMETHING possible to say in a Postgame sort of way…

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 10:43 pm

      What a waste of sympathy…celery stalks indeed…

      :)

  86. Mike in CT

    October 2, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Well, tip of the cap to White Sox GM Kenny Williams, sure trading for Jake Peavy screwed up his team’s 2009 chances, but at least it messed up the Tigers postseason chances.

    Can’t wait to face him four-fives times a season for the next couple years.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 10:17 pm

      I’m with you there, if by “tip of the cap” you refer to that gesture with middle-finger extended…

      • Mike in CT

        October 2, 2009 at 10:22 pm

        How’s this? Over the summer I was going through my old baseball cards and stumbled upon a shot of Kenny Williams as a Tiger.

        I nearly threw up.

        • Coleman

          October 2, 2009 at 10:26 pm

          I did not know that.

          Thanks for enlightening/horrifying me…

          • Mike in CT

            October 2, 2009 at 10:30 pm

            What horrified you, my would-be vomit or kenny as a Tiger?

          • Coleman

            October 2, 2009 at 10:31 pm

            I did know Kenny Williams was a Detroit Bengal Cat…I’m OK with the vomit, as long as it maintains the “would-be” status…at least Hawk Harrelson never wore the Olde English D (except maybe privately before his hotel-room mirror with the doors locked…)

  87. Coleman

    October 2, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Don’t have much to say to that…but i DO want to see if my reply stays at the bottom of all the posts no matter what like your comment has magically done…

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 10:21 pm

      Wow…and the replies don’t even reply in a reply-ish way…just hoping Jud uses these powers for good instead of evil…

      • Jeff

        October 2, 2009 at 11:02 pm

        Well said. That’s an amazing skill to have.

  88. stephen

    October 2, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Twins blown half their lead. I’m telling you this is the NC A &T versus Widener play-in game.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 10:30 pm

      Q. When is blowing half your lead no biggie?
      A. When aforementioned lead is 10 frickin’ runs

  89. stephen

    October 2, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    BILLFER: THAT IS BEST POST GAME COMMENT EVER. WELL DONE!
    (yes i’m shouting, it is that awesome).

    • Mike in CT

      October 2, 2009 at 10:40 pm

      Second that fact. Needed something to take my mind off that atrocity.

    • billfer

      October 2, 2009 at 10:50 pm

      Glad you liked it. I was reading the comments throughout the game. And I certainly understand the negativity and frustration. But I thought it would be best to focus on the positives.

      • Coleman

        October 2, 2009 at 10:59 pm

        Pay no attention to the disarming nonchalance of billfer’s comments…the postgame was pure genius, a clever strategem combining the metaphorical and the visceral…avoiding the popular but somewhat negative complaints – “The Tigers show no “HUNGER”!, etc” – he instead inspires by CREATING a hunger with his over the top descriptions of his fine dinner (tell me, are you hungry now? I am!…case closed). Now we’re all hungry, and no doubt the feeling will carry over in some fashion to the players.

        (Although as far as “fire in the belly goes”…in some ways that may be the opposite of being “hungry.” Because I had a delicious habanero shrimp skewer that was filling and yet seems to be producing a fire in the belly…)

  90. Ian C.

    October 2, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    That’s the best postgame of the season. Well done (unlike the prime rib), Bill.

  91. stephen

    October 2, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    Royals got two on, no out in the 8th! It’s not impossible!

  92. stephen

    October 2, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    Royals got tying run on deck circle!

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 11:00 pm

      and yet…I’m guessing warming up in the bullpen is–Farnsworth?

  93. stephen

    October 2, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    ROYALS GOT TYING RUN AT PLATE!

  94. Chief

    October 2, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Excellent postgame wrapup. Good game by Fien and Rapada.

  95. stephen

    October 2, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    Crap, Royals strand two with 400 ft out. Crap.

  96. stephen

    October 2, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    Twins going to have to use Nathan again! This is not a small thing.

    • Jeff Molby

      October 2, 2009 at 11:23 pm

      Eh. All year long I’ve stressed that it’s too early to go into full-throttle mode. That’s not the case anymore. For the next two (or three, if it’s f!@#ing necessary), both teams will play their best people at every conceivable opportunity. Nathan will pitch in every game, even if it means he’s pitched in 6 of 7 straight games.

      • stephen

        October 2, 2009 at 11:29 pm

        I agree, but he won’t be effective if he’s used four straight days. Twins are not playing that well, I don’t think they win the next two. They had two more errors tonight, squander most of a 10-run lead and had to use Nathan again. We just need to win one more frickin game in my opinion.

  97. Jeff Molby

    October 2, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    LMAO. Billfer… You’ve outdone yourself. That postgame will be unanimously inducted in the Hall on the first ballot.

  98. jcm

    October 2, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    Now , Nathan hit him for running

  99. Sam

    October 2, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    Billfer,

    Well written!!

    -Sam

  100. Jeff

    October 2, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Yes, that wrapup was brilliant.

    Unfortunately, Jud has rigged the site, so none of the well-deserved compliments will end up at the bottom.

  101. David G

    October 2, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    I think the Tigs get it done tomorrow. In Greinke we trust.

  102. stephen

    October 2, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    160 games in, the Tigers are exactly one run on the plus side of run differential.

    • Coleman

      October 2, 2009 at 11:54 pm

      So, wait–that means we won, right?

  103. Jerry the Tiger Fan

    October 3, 2009 at 12:10 am

    Does everyone now see why I freaked out during the Thursday afternoon loss? Because this was sooooooo predictable, that is why. I have to laugh that people were counting on Jackson to outduel Peavy tonight in yesterday’s thread. Peavy is one of the elite pitchers in all of baseball, Jackson is good but nowhere near Peavy’s level. Porcello’s young arm be damned, they need to start him tomorrow or go with JV on three day’s rest and come back with Porcello Sunday. Leyland counting on Figaro tomorrow is akin to taking a card with a 16 at a blackjack table with the dealer showing a six. It might work, but the odds are not in your favor. What a mess. THIS is why I lost my mind Thursday afternoon. It was all there for the taking, the Twins made four errors, and we still got blown out. After blowing an opportunity like that it is tough to re-group (as we saw tonight). I’m hoping for the best, but this has historical collapse written all over it (as ESPN reminds us of nightly). So depressing to see this go down this way.

    • Jeff Molby

      October 3, 2009 at 12:57 am

      Question: What’s the only thing sillier than assuming a .531 team will hold onto a 1 game lead with two games left?

      Answer: Assuming that a .525 team can overcome a 1 game deficit with two games left.

      I wish this was locked up a week ago, but it’s not. Oh well. Think of these as bonus playoff games. Every move matters so much that it has the same intensity. Enjoy it. This is baseball drama at its finest, even if the baseball skill leaves a bit to be desired.

      • Coleman

        October 3, 2009 at 6:06 pm

        Not so silly when said team is 12-4 in their last 16 games…

    • Keith (Mr. X)

      October 3, 2009 at 4:37 am

      I’m not depressed. As long as the Tigers are in 1st place, I’m happy. I’ve been very happy for since May 10th. That’s nearly 5 whole months. If the Twins can somehow take 1st place away from us, then congrats to them. I’m not a sore loser.

  104. Tater

    October 3, 2009 at 7:14 am

    Awesome, awesome postgame. Billfer is my Tiger!

    Back to the deep, cleansing breaths.

  105. MCM

    October 3, 2009 at 9:00 am

    Nothing better than taking this thing down to the wire….if our bats don’t come alive today, shame on us!

  106. stephen

    October 3, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Oriole fan wrote me this: “You know what Aubrey Huff is? He is PAYBACK FOR KEITH MORELAND! CHOKE ON IT, TIGERS! Happy 20th anniversary of ruining one of the best baseball seasons of my life, Detroit.”
    (The Tigers pawned off Moreland during the 1989 pennant race).

    Moreland and Huff post-trade stats are remarkably similar!

    • Chris

      October 3, 2009 at 3:16 pm

      Huff hit a huge 3-run ninth inning homer against Toronto. Tigers won that game in extra innings. That win could be the difference between winning the Central. Did Moreland do anything like that for the Orioles?

  107. Keith (Mr. X)

    October 3, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    I’ve gotten fairly use to how Rodney closes games. The way the Tigers will win the division is just the Rodney way of doing things.

  108. stephen

    October 3, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Let me state for the record I stated with 100% certainty there was no way the Twins would get to 85 wins.
    I am an idiot.