Game 48: Twins at Tigers

PREGAME: Remember the last time the Tigers swept a series? They were in New York and went to play the Twins and then got swept themselves. Let’s not do that again.

Did you know the Twins have played 28 of their games in the confines of the dome and are 16-12 there? But when they head on the road they are 7-12? Let’s hope that trend continues as Armando Galaragga takes his turn in the rotation.

For the Twins it will be Kevin Slowey who is making his 5th start of the season. He hasn’t made it through the sixth inning yet, but posts a 16:3 K:BB ratio over 19.1 innings. His achilles heel has been the long ball with 6 surrendered all ready. Last year he averaged over 2 allowed per game as well.

MIN @ DET, Friday, May 23, 2008 Game Preview – Baseball-Reference.com

IN GAME: I think Leyland had a beef. Those were called strikes in that Guillen at-bat:

POSTGAME: Well, it got interesting there for a while. I missed the first 3 innings while at my son’s game so I didn’t see Galarraga walking everybody, but it sounded similar to his last start against the D-backs but the Twins added hits as well.

The Tigers couldn’t get to Slowey and couldn’t take advantage of his tendency to hit homers, but the offense still managed to put runners on base in most innings. And they did double his walk total for the season (and should have more than doubled it – see above graphic) so they did exhibit some patience.

An inspired rally in the 7th cut it to one, and could have tied it save for the comical play involving Marcus Thames running all over the field. Unfortunately the bullpen imploded under the eye of Lloyd McClendon who took over when Jim Leyland was ejected. McClendon let Willis throw 28 pitches and Bobby Seay 38 which would seem to indicate that both would be unavailable tonight.

Willis struggled with his control walking 2 (1 intentional) and throwing 15 balls versus 13 strikes.

149 Comments

  1. yak

    May 23, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    Let’s go Boys!

  2. Vince in MN

    May 23, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    This will be somewhat of a test: the Twins actually have half-ways decent pitching.

  3. JOE Z

    May 23, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    does sheff ever get a day off?

  4. yak

    May 23, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    We should send Paws down and call up Muddy. He is tearing it up in Toledo.

  5. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    Way to escape, Armando. Sure looked good from here.

  6. Slashpyne

    May 23, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Hard to believe the Tigers are only 6.5 games out after such a poor start. I like Bondermans and Verlanders recent outings and the bullpen has been much better than I expected (addition by subtraction concerning Grilli).

    I’m becoming faintly optimistic regarding the Tigs chances to compete for a playoff spot.

  7. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    BOTTOM 1ST

    Disappointing Granderson AB. Old Granderson? Nice, Polly. If the Tigers are patient, they can wear this guy down fast. Way to ground out, RBI guys.

  8. McB

    May 23, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    They need to start winning in the division. Why can’t we beat this team? Bases loaded, no outs – are you kidding me?

  9. McB

    May 23, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    Inge turns 2 on that play

  10. yak

    May 23, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    Wow, Guillen with a defensive miscue. I guess you’re gonna tell me the earth is still round.

  11. yak

    May 23, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    Aaaaaaaand they make it hurt. Nice

  12. McB.

    May 23, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    that’s exactly what I was thinking!!

  13. McB

    May 23, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    If the Tigers do not start winning in this division – this season is over. This inning has been a total disaster.

  14. yak

    May 23, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    Here comes Willis? Nope, he’s ok.

  15. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    TOP 2ND

    Dontrelle’s debut later? That was ugly. Are we the Mariners now? Hope the Tigers brought their bats.

    I’m sure I’m way behind here. Dial-up. Bear with me or ignore me.

  16. yak

    May 23, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Don’t feel bad. I’m here on a phone.

  17. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    BOTTOM 2ND

    Having a hard time with major league pitching after the promotion, I see. And I don’t mean Joyce.

  18. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    TOP 3RD

    Armando, I’m not sure, but I think you need to throw a fastball for a strike more than once every 3 innings. Is he getting it together? Doesn’t “look” like it from here.

  19. Slashpyne

    May 23, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    I hope Leyland is getting fed-up with Guillen’s D and Shef’s O.
    My 2 cents: Shef-DL, Guillen-DH, Hessman-3B. Lets see what Hessman got with a full time shot in the bigs.

  20. yak

    May 23, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    I would be all for that slash, as I’m sure many here would be.

  21. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    BOTTOM 3RD

    ‘Bout time someone drew a walk. I want to call Stowey a clown (he’s the opposing pitcher, after all), but he seems to be working the Tigers like he was (old) Kenny Rogers. Can’t they catch up with him the 2nd time around?

  22. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    TOP 4TH

    Did someone have a talk with Armando, or did he have a talk with himself? A quick inning like that can turn a game around. Nice job.

  23. mcb

    May 23, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    Sheffield can’t get the ball out of the infield.

  24. JOE Z

    May 23, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    LETS GET SOME HITS TIGERS

  25. mcb

    May 23, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    I can’t take watching us turn another no name into an all star on the mound.

  26. Slashpyne

    May 23, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Birding Update for Sean C:
    I saw a Western Tanager yesterday. Very pretty, but I’m not sure what it means as an omen for the Tigers win streak.

  27. Jeff

    May 23, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    I can deal with losing if a team is battling. The 2003 team was more watchable than this team is tonight.

    Tigers’ pitchers are walking 4.3 per 9 innings this year. That’s up from 3.52 last year and 3.06 in 2006.

  28. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    BOTTOM 4TH

    Joyce, yeah, but it coulda been any of them. Is Stowey really dealing, or is this a case study in how Tigers hitting has managed to lose a majority of the 27?

  29. mcb

    May 23, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    I agree Jeff. Lifeless AB’s tonight. Heading for the 8th shutout. Tigers are 4-15 in the Division.

  30. Slashpyne

    May 23, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    Nice play by Cabrera-I think he has potential at 1B

  31. mcb

    May 23, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    This just SUCKS

  32. Slashpyne

    May 23, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    I imagine others have said this, but I think a significant part of the starting pitchers problems have stemmed from the Tigers subpar infield defense.

  33. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    TOP 5TH

    I wanted to say sweet recovery halfway through Morneau’s AB. Is AG looking as hittable again now as he was? “Looks” that way from here. But he can stay or go – I want an end to these sleeping bats. Now!

  34. Adam

    May 23, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    Shutout number 8 comin’ up. Or is it 9 now?

  35. Adam

    May 23, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    WOOOO PUDGE!!!1

  36. mcb

    May 23, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Put Thames and Inge in the line up PLEASE

  37. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    BOTTOM 5TH

    Nice AB, Pudge. Worked ya right into the DP. Renteria must make Stowey nervous. No one else does. Last time around, it looked like Sheffield-Ordonez was 2 different results on the same pitch. Telling, or was that just more of a luck thing?

  38. Chris

    May 23, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    Time to fire up the D-train

  39. slats

    May 23, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    Another struggling righthander(0-4 5.5 era) comes in and has his best outing of the season. This time a soft tosser with below average stuff.

  40. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    TOP 6TH

    Armando wants to join the 4.00+ club. He’s lonely. Let Willis pitch the rest of this loss. Add some interest to the game. Down 5-0? Long odds indeed.

  41. Slashpyne

    May 23, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Dontell Willis reminds me of Sheffield in one regard- Unconventional, complicated motion (Willis pitching, Shef swing)
    that has to be just right to work properly.

  42. mcb

    May 23, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    We are getting close to the season being 1/3 over and we are right where we were after the first week

  43. mcb

    May 23, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    Sheffield should have beat that out, he was not running

  44. Chris

    May 23, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    Another case where a pitcher struggles against all of MLB and then masters the Tigers….. I am absolutely frustrated by this lineup. Unless a pitcher is really terrable, this lineup is weak.

    Oh but do not fear, we got Cabrera….Boooooooooooooo!!!!!

  45. Mark in Chicago

    May 23, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    no way that pitch to guillen was strike 2. he should be on first. not that it would make much difference but it makes me feel better to complain.

  46. Brian P

    May 23, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Leyland went off. Good for him. That was ball four by a foot up and outside.

  47. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    BOTTOM 6TH

    I’m sorry, Carlos. I truly am. Cabrera came through nicely, and I’ll try to remember that. That was only Sheffield’s 47th groundout to third in 2008. He’s coming along. Nice to see a sign of life here in the 6th, though same crappy result. One AB short of getting to a tired Stowey, who’s had them in his pocket. Yuk.

  48. McB

    May 23, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    Dontelle is picking up where he left off.

  49. Vince in MN

    May 23, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    The Twins are last in the league in walks.

  50. T Smith

    May 23, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    The silent hand of Bud Selig thwarts another Tiger’s rally.

    Let’s see if the f/x data mysteriously disappears tomorrow.

  51. Vince in MN

    May 23, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    Yankees 13, Mariners 2 – hmmm.

  52. Mark in Chicago

    May 23, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    I’ve given up on winning this game, now I just want to see Willis pitch well for a couple innings.

    He was good after Mauer walked.

  53. yak

    May 23, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    There is too much young talent on this team to keep this current team together. Pudge, Maggs, Polanco, Guillen. Someone has to be willing to give up near major league ready prospects with these guys. Something’s gotta give, and with a good/great young core like Verlander,Cabrera,Grandy etc., they are falling into the bad habits of guys like Sheffield. Maybe I am over-reactng, but this is getting hard to watch

  54. Mark in Chicago

    May 23, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    T Smith – conspiracy theorist.

    your thoughts are intriguing to me, I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter

  55. Chris

    May 23, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Can there ever be a day when pitching F/x is be used to instantly assist the call of balls and strikes to the ump? I think it would be nice to see technology be used to make strike zones consistant.

  56. Adam

    May 23, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Raburn! Let’s see how we strand him. That should be interesting.

  57. McB

    May 23, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Yak – right on. Sheff cannot even run through a ground ball. Leyland and big Dave need to send a message and use Sheff as the example

  58. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    TOP 7TH

    Good Lord – a 5-minute hangup for me here with the count 2-2 on Young. That can’t be good news.

  59. billfer

    May 23, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    Pudge, double or double play?

  60. Adam

    May 23, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    Gene Lamont – “Well, we can’t get shut-out if I let Raburn score. Better hold him up.”

  61. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    TOP 7TH

    I meant 1-2. Did Willis get a standing O for the first strike? The first pitch on GameCenter showed up on my mouse pad. And is there any need for an intentional walk with Willis?

  62. Joel in Seattle

    May 23, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    Maybe Pudge can get us another GIDP here…

  63. Mark in Chicago

    May 23, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    how many times is pudge going to swing at ball 3?

  64. billfer

    May 23, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    This seems like one of those abs where Pudge battles, and then swings at a pitch 3 feet out of the strike zone.

    EDIT: Or one of those at-bats where he hits a triple

  65. Adam

    May 23, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    billfer – it’ll be behind him and he’ll swing.

  66. Adam

    May 23, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    billfer – triple.

  67. McB

    May 23, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    I don’t believe what I just saw.

  68. Slashpyne

    May 23, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Who was that number 7 batting for us?
    We have a game!

  69. Brian P

    May 23, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Pudge really likes the seventh against the Twins. That’s his second triple.

  70. Mark in Chicago

    May 23, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    I’ll take a triple please, billfer.

    He better triple after swinging at ball three 5 times in that AB

  71. Joel in Seattle

    May 23, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    Triple’s good, though…

  72. billfer

    May 23, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    Mark – You did see the strike called against Carlos right? I’m not sure any of those were definitive balls.

  73. Chris

    May 23, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    Yes!!!!!

    No shutout tonight. Somehow that has become the substitute for victory as a feeling for satisfaction can I get from this team.

    No Shutout = Victory….. YAYY

  74. Mark in Chicago

    May 23, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    ugh. awful break(s)

    at least we got the run in

  75. Dylan

    May 23, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    Damn…. =\

  76. Jeff

    May 23, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    I’m not blaming Thames too much for what happened, but why the hell are they laughing about it in the dugout?

  77. billfer

    May 23, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    I don’t even know what to say. I can’t really get mad at Thames. Great at-bat, great hustle.

  78. Dead Rabbit

    May 23, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    yeah….that wasn’t funny

  79. Dylan

    May 23, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Jeff, what do you want them to do yell at him?

    SHEFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

  80. Brian P

    May 23, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Hmm. Do we leave Willis in for the eighth? :P I don’t mind if we lose now. We finally went down swinging for a change.

  81. T Smith

    May 23, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Mark in Chicago:

    I’m not typically a conspiracy theorist kind of guy, but when I see a ball so far out of the stike zone called a strike, in the words of Arthur Conan Doyle, when you have eliminated the impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the true. I’m fairly certain Ray Charles could have made a better call. That was just horrible.

    I’m still shocked.

  82. Adam

    May 23, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Dammit Thames. We would have been tied if you’d only stopped at FIRST.

  83. Mark in Chicago

    May 23, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    yeah, i get your point, billfer. everything in the same zip code as the plate is a strike according to the knucklehead behind the plate, so you might as well swing.

    pudge just swings at so much crap it frustrates me.

    and how big is that thames play now? oh man, i hope we don’t lose this game by one run.

  84. billfer

    May 23, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Jeff – What are you supposed ot do after a play like that? Marcus looked crushed after that and his teammates picked him up.

  85. Jeff

    May 23, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    what do you want them to do yell at him?

    No, but I don’t think they should be laughing about it.

  86. Dead Rabbit

    May 23, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    if it was me, i wouldn’t be cracking up.

  87. Mark in Chicago

    May 23, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    I know, T, I agree completely. That call was ridiculous. I actually agree with you, only I think it’s the baseball gods that have clearly conspired against us.

  88. T Smith

    May 23, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    Okay, on another note. We’re in a one run game now. It’s time to nix the Dontrelle Willis experiment.

  89. Dylan

    May 23, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    Crap…

  90. billfer

    May 23, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    But what if somebody said something really funny? Is this what people want from the team? Life and emotion? It was a ridiculous play, laughing doesn’t hurt anything.

  91. Adam

    May 23, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    Darn it Dontrelle.

  92. McB

    May 23, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    all of a sudden mike lamb has power? are you kidding me?

  93. Brian P

    May 23, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Wow. I was clearly kidding with the Willis comment. Oh Lloyd. *sigh*

  94. yak

    May 23, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Woo reverse psychology. That’s exactly what I was tying for. Yep, that’s my story and I’m stickin to it.

  95. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    BOTTOM 7TH

    Whoa, nice rally! Podge, way to work that hack! He makes it so confusing. Lei’s trade him, with an option to get him right back. sweet AB by Marcus – bad call to try for 3B, or just trying for the win?
    On my lips right before Sheff’s home run – pitchers seem afraid of him still. Why? That’s why! Very poor AB by Ordonez, but hey – he did good earlier to no avail. I have a feeling the D-train experiment is over for now.

  96. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    TOP 8TH

    Oh man – why is Willis still in there? Confidence my foot. Leave!

  97. billfer

    May 23, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Sean – Marcus overslid the bag going into 2nd. He had no choice but to run to third and was tagged from behind, only to have the ball dropped, but Thames didn’t know it so he kept running to the dugout.

  98. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    TOP 8TH

    Harris singles, earned run charged to Leyland.

  99. McB

    May 23, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Sean – Leyland is not managing. He was ejected.

  100. Dead Rabbit

    May 23, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    thames made a couple of honest mistakes…and i could see laughing at a bit. just don’t see it as an extended knee slapper after the homerun.

  101. Chris

    May 23, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    How in the hell could the Tigers orginization be so WRONG about a player before aquiring him. Is it the scouting? What? Couldn’t anybody have seen that Willis was really on the decline or at least not stable as a starter? This trade and this contract is a disaster. And note that Miller has really been pitching well lately.

    God, would we have like to have that trade back. Imagine what this pitching staff would look like with Miller & Jurrjens instead of Willis and Rogers.

  102. Dead Rabbit

    May 23, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    crap

  103. Adam

    May 23, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Oh Lloyd. Lloyd Lloyd Lloyd.

    Why didn’t you leave Lopez? WHY DIDN’T YOU LEAVE LOPEZ?!

  104. billfer

    May 23, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Chris -

    Were you busy the last 3 games, or do you just come to complain?

  105. Dead Rabbit

    May 23, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    i was baffled from the very begining with the Willis trade (while being a total shill for the offense)….Anyone who plays fantasy baseball knows Willis is a fill the seats kind of guy at best and not a winning pitcher.

  106. Adam

    May 23, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Chris: Miller would have a 5+ ERA like he does, and Jair would have slipped on the wet mound and hyperextended his knee. Ha.

  107. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    TOP 8TH

    Not bad, Aquilino. Sweet call, goin’ with the Seay-meister. A bunt single to 3B -who’da thunk it, with the Tiger D? Oh, Bobby. Why? There’s how you kill the spirit. Well, put this one on the bullpen, then. Leyland only gets charged for half the loss. He’s winless in 14 appearances so far, I think.

  108. Mark in Chicago

    May 23, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    Sean,

    been drinking? ;)

  109. T Smith

    May 23, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    How many cigerettes do you suppose Leyland has had in the clubhouse since the ejection?

  110. Brian P

    May 23, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    Sean, if you don’t have the data, Leyland was ejected in the sixth for arguing the ball call against Guillen. McLendon is calling the shots.

  111. Vince in MN

    May 23, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    If you’re looking for something fun to do this weekend, “Indiana Jones and the Adventure of the Crystal Skull” is opening.

  112. Chris

    May 23, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    Bilfer

    If you look at the last three games, you’ll notice that I made comments there as well…. And sure I comment and complain more when they are losing. But everybody is gulty of that. I’m sure you’ve noticed that there are meny more comments on losing games then there are on blow-out wins.

  113. Jeff

    May 23, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    You knew Guillen was going to get punched out on that one just so the ump could prove his manhood. Granted, this one was a lot closer.

  114. Adam

    May 23, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    Someone get me the pitch f/x for that called strike on Carlos. Looked outside to ME.

  115. T Smith

    May 23, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    Chris:

    Blowout wins? Are we talking about the same season?

  116. Vince in MN

    May 23, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    For all the complaining about Leyland’s managing, the un-clutch hitting, inconsistent pitching and flimsy defense, the travesty that this game has become definitely has to be placed squarely on the shoulders of rally-killer Bud Selig.

  117. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    BOTTOM 8TH

    I kinda like this Cabrera guy. Glad we got him locked up for his final 2 years in the bigs (joke). Was Carlos frozen? Start another rally, Raburn! OK, don’t. Nice AB, Edgah! Those first 2 pitches didn’t even show up on my screen, let alone the little red box.

  118. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    TOP 9TH

    Let’s give Todd some work, get the occasional blowup out of the way right here and now.

  119. Greg L.

    May 23, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    I left my tv for a bit, and when I came back, Granderson was out. How come? He didn’t get hurt or anything, right?

  120. T Smith

    May 23, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Adam

    It wasn’t just outside… a little more movement on it coupled with a missed signal from the catcher and it’s a borderline passed ball.

  121. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    TOP 9TH

    No Jones? I’m not sure if that’s surrender or defiance. Oh – they plan on extra innings. Good. It’s doable. Uh-huh.

  122. Chris

    May 23, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Maybe ol’ Bud Selig is trying to reward the Twinkies for not chosing to move the the NL, allowing his Brewers to make that switch….. Maybe this a delayed reward….

    OK, time to take off my tin foil hat.

  123. Vince in MN

    May 23, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    I Seay they pitched around Slugger Lamb in that situation.

  124. billfer

    May 23, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    I’m sure Leyland is thrilled that Lloyd has rendered both lefty relievers unavailable for tomorrow.

  125. Vince in MN

    May 23, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Earlier I noted that the Twins were last in the league in getting walks. Actually they are last in MLB.

  126. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    TOP 9TH

    OK, Seay really ddn’t have it tonight. At all. The 8th was a heartbreaker, but I’m still glad for that rally in the 7th. Not a good loss – they’re the Mariners! – but not a completely flat one, anyway. That’s something, I guess. How could Stowey own them? Man.

  127. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    BOTTOM 9TH

    Thames on base with none on? This pitcher can be had! Come on, Placido.

  128. Vince in MN

    May 23, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    Tonight they played baseball for one inning. How many times have we seen them play well for an inning or two and then just not bother to show up for the rest of the time. Even in some of the big blowout wins it all came in one or two bursts. What happened to the “nine innings” mantra of two years ago?

  129. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    BOTTOM 9TH

    Well, Sheff, I’ll remember the homer. It was big. Can’t hit a home run every time.

    Sorry again about the time lag for me. If it was annoying, I won’t do it again. Kinda fun to comment on a game in progress, though, even if I’m out of sync (and can’t peek if I want to truly comment in MY here and now).

    They need more comments from former players, I think. What does Chris Shelton have to say? Mike Maroth?

  130. stephen

    May 23, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    Well, in happier news Maybin has 61 strikeouts in 159 ab’s at AA! He’s on pace for 200.
    Yikes!

  131. JOE Z

    May 23, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    ya know, all in all tonight, i missed second half of the game. but i am very happy the tigers didnt get shutout , and even put more than a couple runs on the board. i think thats sayin something.

  132. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    OK, having read through now:

    Mark – Drinking? Why do you ask? Despite a joking comment a while back, in truth I hardly ever drink, certainly not while sitting home alone “watching” the Tigers. I was on a time lag due to a dial-up connection. Or did I say something really stupid? (It can happen.)

    Sorry I missed the Leyland ejection – they don’t tell you that in the play by play! Coulda looked at the Glog, but no time. If McClendon left Willis in – well, bad move. Half a loss for him.

    I can see laughing after the Thames play, Must have been comical. Bad baseball fundamentals by Thames, no doubt (go the next base no matter what, fool!), but what can you do right after it happens? I don’t think scowling or giving him the cold shoulder would have been any better. Live, laugh, learn.

    Sad way for the Tigers to go down, no doubt. My latest projection, which tied up the mainframe for a full 3 days, has their ceiling at 86-76, with a probable 77-85 in store.

    The Tigers are 2-18 in the Nemesis Division, 6-0 in the Patsy Division, and 12-10 in the We’ll Beat Them When The Clubhouse Vibe Is Just Right, Assuming We’re Also Awake Division. Does not bode well.

  133. Mark in Chicago

    May 23, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Sean,

    I was just joking, it was really a commentary on your post for the bottom 7, 9:37PM which struck me as kinda rambling (like I never do that!) and had a few misspellings (also guilty here on that one).

    It just looked funny and a little out of character for you, you’re usually pretty succinct and cogent with your thoughts.

    Besides, I still owed you for that dirty trick you played on me ;)

  134. Dave BW

    May 23, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    Just got back from the game. My synopsis: :(

  135. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    Mark

    Ha! You’re right, that post does look a bit drunk. I had a lot stored up for that inning, typing fast to get it in, knowing that I was probably so much more out of sync by then because of that hangup I experienced with Young batting (1-2 count) with 2 on and 2 out for the Twins in the top half. No TV, dial-up connection – I might as well be on the moon. Or live at work.

    That out of sync quality annoys ME, reading through. A failed experiment. And I’m 5-3 now, too. Sinking fast.

  136. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    A bit verbose there, Dave. Could you just summarize?

  137. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 23, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Slashpyne

    Western Tanager, very nice (yet to see one myself). But you must get rid of the bird at once, or surely more losses to the Twins will follow. My Eurasian Wigeon brought home the Seattle series and is now gone. It’s all on cib now, and she must have gone off the cheeseburgers tonight.

  138. cib

    May 23, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    Dave BW, just got home and I could not have said it better. The fireworks were good, though.

    Sean, I did indeed have a cheeseburger. I give up!!

  139. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 24, 2008 at 12:11 am

    You know, I get the impression something’s up with defense when I can’t follow a game without seeing at least 2 “infield singles” and virtually any ground ball with a man on first netting only one out. That’s not intended to be funny. Weak defense just seems like such a strong subtext in so many games, even when other failures are more obvious. Am I wrong? This aspect of play seems like a “chronic fatigue” that is just dogging this team relentlessly.

    Bad calls at the plate tonight, huh? Well, that’s a drag, but from my seen through a glass darkly perspective, there were enough poor at-bats to take away that excuse.

    Armando pulled 6 despite the horrendous 2nd. That’s a silver lining, I guess.

  140. Sean C. in Illinois

    May 24, 2008 at 12:17 am

    cib

    Well, you did what you could, then. NOW it’s time to fire Leyland and trade Guillen. DFA Cabrera, too. And Raburn to the DL!*

    * He popped out. Glory days are over.

  141. ron

    May 24, 2008 at 12:25 am

    Leyland will get thrown out of the game early tomorrow so he can catch the Wings and Pistons games on T.V.

  142. Dave BW

    May 24, 2008 at 12:32 am

    Let’s trade Guillen, Raburn, and Bobby Seay for Brandon Webb and Justin Upton!!!

  143. Brenden

    May 24, 2008 at 2:31 am

    Be Advised…another sweep by the Twins is on the way….no pitching, no offense..after a great series of that….this team is just sick….

  144. Mike R

    May 24, 2008 at 3:05 am

    Lets not get carried away with the “great” series we had against the M’s. Seattle ran out Carlos Silva, Jarrod Washburn, and Miguel Batista all while batting Jose Lopez 3rd. The M’s are terrible.

  145. Steve in Kzoo

    May 24, 2008 at 3:07 am

    Optimistically:

    the one bad outing for Armando Galarraga for 2 more starts. Tigers hit the hell outta the ball the last two games, so it’ll take them some time to reload(Much like the Braves after killing the mets in their 4 game set, they sucked tonight with a 11-1 lose)
    Willis hit the strike zone. And Pudge did some good.

    The Ugly:

    Armando was just really horrible tonight. Tigers were only playing for an inning tonight,(like they have for the last 4 games scoring a lot or all of their runs in one inning.). Willis goes one, but allows one run UGH. And yea our lefties are out for tomorrows game more then likely.

    So there you guy got my side of tonights game both bad and good. Brenden is more the likely right but Ill stay on the optimistic side for a little while longer. I say 1-2 in the three game set. With a big outing for Verlander on Sunday.

  146. Mike R

    May 24, 2008 at 4:01 am

    Also, I’d argue that this isn’t just Galarrag’s first bad start, he was showing signs of returning to earth in Arizona (5 BB’s, twice the amount of flyballs than groundballs) and he was roughed up by the Red Sox (could give him a pass for that).

  147. Mith

    May 24, 2008 at 7:13 am

    Be Advised…another sweep by the Twins is on the way….no pitching, no offense..after a great series of that….this team is just sick….

    Be advised you need to relax. Good grief, they lost a game, that doesn’t mean they automatically get swept.

  148. ron

    May 24, 2008 at 11:27 am

    The team is sick, but it’s just a chemical imbalance. Nothing serious.

  149. ron

    May 24, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Even with the Tigers woes, this is a great day for Detroit sports fans.