Game 2010.069: Tigers at Mets

by billfer on June 22, 2010 · 85 comments

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The Tigers head to New York to take on the second place Mets. Justin Verlander is on the bump for the Tigers and he’ll be opposed by Jon Niese.

Niese is getting his first extended time in the rotation after making a handful of starts in both 2008 and 2009. His peripherals are solid (6.7 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9) and he’s been good at limiting the long ball with just 5 homers allowed in his 64.1 innings. Three of those five homers came in his last start, but he’s been money in his 3 June starts going at least 7 innings each time and allowing just 4 runs. Lefties have managed just a 209/333/326 line against him this year.

 
 

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T Smith June 22, 2010 at 6:25 pm

Laird batting 2nd???

Brenden June 22, 2010 at 6:34 pm

Yeah…that should be interesting…

Coleman June 22, 2010 at 6:35 pm

Today’s lineup, courtesy Smokey’s House of Humor:

1 A. Jackson cf
2 G. Laird c
3 M. Ordonez rf
4 M. Cabrera 1b
5 B. Boesch lf
6 C. Guillen 2b
7 B. Inge 3b
8 D. Worth ss
9 J. Verlander p

Oh well, the more ABs Laird gets, the sooner he becomes “due.”

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 7:38 pm

From the inimitable Tom Gage on the reason the Tigers are batting laird 2nd:

They rested Johnny Damon against left-handed starter Jonathon Niese and “a lot of the other guys have settled comfortably into their spots,” said manager Jim Leyland

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 7:40 pm

I left this part of Leyland’s quote out:

“Plus Gerald is a good bunter. When you add it all up, is it perfect? No. Is it logical? It might be.”

Brenden June 22, 2010 at 8:06 pm

Now we have a floating black hole in the line-up….

T Smith June 23, 2010 at 12:08 am

That statement alone would probably tip the scale in a class action suit against Phillip Morris.

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 10:39 pm

If Laird settles comfortably in the 2nd spot, does that mean that Damon has to stay on the bench?

Brenden June 22, 2010 at 7:15 pm

So, how long does everyone think it will take for Porcello to get stuff figured out? Some sports analysts are thinking he is done, I think they are a little pre-mature in their analysis.

Randolph June 22, 2010 at 7:22 pm

I think it all depends on his replacement. If they can find a serviceable man in the minors (Oliver?) or trade for somebody (Lee?) then I think Porcello may spend time at Toldeo until August. He is still only 21 years old. Nobody expected his rookie season last year, if he struggled like this last year people would say he’s too young and inexperienced and should spend time in the minors.

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 7:29 pm

Why isn’t Raburn leading off and playing CF, giving AJax an extra day of rest? Seriously though, as for Laird batting second, I wonder if Genius gave any consideration to just moving Guillen up to 2nd and Inge to 6th, leaving the Mendozas at the bottom of the order where they belong – I bet not. On the other hand, because of Laird’s superior bunting ability perhaps we will see some small ball early in the game (like in the 1st inning if Jackson gets on).

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 7:35 pm

Oops, wrong spot. Oh well.

Anyway as far as Porcello is concerned there is no timetable. I don’t expect him to turn it around as fast as Scherzer who apparently had just one basic mechanical problem to correct. Porcello probably has a more complicated adjustment(s) to make, so it could take a while. He’ll be back eventually.

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 7:18 pm

if it were April 1st, that would explain Laird batting 2nd… using JL’s twisted logic, why doesn’t he have Verlander batting 2nd?!?

Dave [Retire 31] June 22, 2010 at 7:26 pm

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Brenden June 22, 2010 at 7:27 pm

Well, this hasn’t been the best start to this game… Hopefully the bats perk up. We need a good start to this road trip.

Brenden June 22, 2010 at 7:35 pm

Good crap, what is going on with Verlander. He is looking like Dontrelle!

kathy June 22, 2010 at 7:38 pm

No way!!!

Brenden June 22, 2010 at 7:41 pm

Okay, maybe he isn’t looking like Dontrelle (I can’t really tell as I can’t actually watch the game here in Iowa), but all the walks were starting to become a concern for me.

kathy June 22, 2010 at 7:41 pm

Carlos has his pocket out. Happy, happy, happy! Hit one out.

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 7:41 pm

‘we’re not in Kansas anymore’… translation, we’re not in Detroit playing the bottom of the nat’l league.

let’s hope the 1st inning is not an indicator for the next 3 road series (mets-braves-twinkies)…

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 7:47 pm

observation: the Mets do not have a guy in the lineup tonight batting over .300, the Tigers on the other hand have 4 over .300 and Guillen at .293

question: which team do you think is going to put up 6+ runs tonight?

Brenden June 22, 2010 at 7:52 pm

I’m betting on the Tigers, but if Verlander keeps pitching the way he is as of right now, all bets might be off.

Randolph June 22, 2010 at 7:55 pm

Beginning to rain now. Maybe this will turn Justin’s performance around.

Randolph June 22, 2010 at 8:11 pm

Or not.

Coleman June 22, 2010 at 8:09 pm

Rain, rain, go away–I mean come down in buckets. Now.

Randolph June 22, 2010 at 8:12 pm

Tarp coming on the field. Thank goodness!!!

Brenden June 22, 2010 at 8:12 pm

Yeah…this is starting to get interesting…. Verlander apparently didn’t bring his A-game today…

Coleman June 22, 2010 at 8:14 pm

Philosophical question: we all know if the game were to be rained out, all of the stats from the game are erased. But do Laird’s 2 ABs count toward him being “due?”

Brenden June 22, 2010 at 8:21 pm

Yes, period.

Smith June 22, 2010 at 8:30 pm

I really wouldn’t mind a rain out. Verlander wasn’t looking so hot. He threw an 0-2 fastball at the belt buckle in the heart of the plate to Jason Bay. Too bad, I usually love watching him pitch.

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 8:42 pm

Twinkies up 3-0 in the first … to start the game, Milwaukee (Narveson) pitcher hits Span, walks the next two, then 3 singles in a row…

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 9:39 pm

Sounds familiar.

Coleman June 22, 2010 at 8:55 pm

Well my NY rain dance worked, maybe it’s time to work on the Milwaukee weather

Kevin in Dallas June 22, 2010 at 9:08 pm

This sucks. JV won’t get a shot to come out and earn a few more innings, and we gotta bring in a rook. If he can just give up one, I’ll be pleased.

kathy June 22, 2010 at 9:10 pm

Sborz is coming out in place of Justin, according to Dan and Jim.

kathy June 22, 2010 at 9:12 pm

Oh, no.

Brenden June 22, 2010 at 9:19 pm

Great start to the road trip…ugh…

Smith June 22, 2010 at 9:24 pm

Wow. Looks like I’ll be turning this one off.

Coleman June 22, 2010 at 9:25 pm

All is not lost…I’ll be back in a bit, I’ve got a rain dance to dance

Randolph June 22, 2010 at 9:25 pm

I love seeing guys with MONSTER ERA’s early on in their seasons/careers, 40.50 YIKES!

Randolph June 22, 2010 at 9:28 pm

Correction, 67.50 ERA for Sborz

kathy June 22, 2010 at 9:27 pm

Don’t you just love eating humble pie?

Kevin in Dallas June 22, 2010 at 9:29 pm

Poor kid. Leyland set him up for failure. I really don’t get it.

scotsw June 22, 2010 at 10:20 pm

Set him up for failure? What, by actually using him?

Kevin in Dallas June 22, 2010 at 10:35 pm

That’s a terrible situation to bring a kid in for his debut. Following the ace who I’m sure doesn’t want to come out, on the road, runners on 2nd and 3rd, no outs. Should have been Coke or Thomas there.

Coleman June 22, 2010 at 9:35 pm

Justin didn’t look too happy on the bench…I’m guessing he wasn’t exactly on board with the pitching change decision.

Joey C. June 22, 2010 at 9:39 pm

This Sborz kid looks pretty good!

Snyder June 22, 2010 at 9:40 pm

Look out. We’re chippin’ away!

Snyder June 22, 2010 at 9:50 pm

Wow – eight tries and Niese finally lays down a bunt.

Coleman June 22, 2010 at 9:51 pm

Apparently I can’t dance like I used to.

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 9:52 pm

Haven’t had a gold old fashioned laugher for a while.

On a happier note Boesch is 17 for 38 vs LH now (9 for extra bases 3-3-3).

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 10:10 pm

Make that 18 for 39.

Coleman June 22, 2010 at 10:04 pm

Laird was due.

Smith June 22, 2010 at 10:13 pm

If only we still had Everett. He’s still due!

Joey in Portland OR June 22, 2010 at 10:16 pm

Danny now has more RBIs than Everett did this year!

Coleman June 22, 2010 at 10:17 pm

K-Burn

Randolph June 22, 2010 at 10:18 pm

Rayburn WAS due!

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 10:48 pm

“due” to be designated for assignment

scotsw June 22, 2010 at 10:18 pm

2 outs, bases loaded — you gotta get the bat off your shoulder there, Raburn, if you want to avoid another sojourn in Toledo.

Kevin in Dallas June 22, 2010 at 10:36 pm

Man, a base hit there could have really turned things around…especially considering that MIL is now doubling up MIN.

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 10:46 pm

The following 2010 stats provide an indication of the disparity between ONE good Tiger hitter and three poor Tiger hitters.

Boesch: ABs = 175, Hits = 61, HR = 11, RBI = 39, AVG = .345

ERL: ABs = 310, Hits = 57, HR = 2, RBI = 26, AVG = less than .186
(Everett, Raburn & Laird combined)

Sure Everett is gone, but the Laird and Raburn clinic continues

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 10:53 pm

Mack and Myer Mendoza.

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 10:49 pm

Giant killers at home; train wreck on the road; weird.

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 10:56 pm

i’m pretty sure the Nats, Pirates and D-backs had something to do with the recent success.

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 11:08 pm

True, but I would bet money they wouldn’t go 8-1 vs those teams on the road.

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 11:30 pm

Agreed…

One of the few things JL constantly says that seems to ring true, (paraphrasing) “success begins and ends with starting pitching”… that was certainly the case tonight.

Tomorrow Bondo (who’s due for a meltdown) is up against Dickey (who’s been solid this year 2.82 ERA 5-0)…

jud June 22, 2010 at 10:53 pm

consider this:
; the plane lands in ____________(city) last night. The team checks into a hotel in_______________ (city). Leyland, Lamont, and McClendon have their hot chocolate and go to bed at 8:00…..the bus pulls up at 8:30 and the team hits the hot spots in ______________(city)…bus returns 4am after the bars close …..This is repeated on every road trip………..Tigers play like crap……………….can there be any other explanation for being one of the worst road teams in baseball??????

Shane Trapped in Toledo June 22, 2010 at 11:13 pm

They are one of the worst road teams in baseball?
Seems for the past few years they have been middle of the pack. Data or stats?

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 11:04 pm

the twinkies coming back against the brewers – now 7-5, 2 runs so far in the 8th, runner on 2nd nobody out… and the less-than-stellar brewpen trying to hold it together

Brenden June 22, 2010 at 11:13 pm

Wow…well didn’t our pitching staff just suffer a complete meltdown this evening. Hopefully this isn’t a trend for the rest of the road trip, although I can’t say I am looking forward having more than half of our bullpen used in the first game…

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 11:23 pm

Not to worry. They used the second tier guys tonight. Tomorrow they can ship out Ni and Sborz for a couple of other Toledo spare parts and they won’t even miss a beat. At least so far Gonzalez looks like he might be a keeper.

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 11:16 pm

B-Inge now just 50 K’s away from tying Stormin Norman Cash for 2nd (1081) on the ‘all time Tiger list’… and just 68 from passing Whitaker for the Tiger all time leader in strike outs… Vegas has him reaching the mark on or by 9/21/10

let’s hope he stays healthy

Vince in MN June 22, 2010 at 11:26 pm

After which he can be proclaimed Player of the Decade (POD).

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 11:32 pm

you mean ‘century’

jud June 22, 2010 at 11:32 pm

he only K’d once today…clearly P.O.G

Coleman June 23, 2010 at 12:36 am

If Inge reaches the record by having a string of games like tonight (1-3, 2B, BB, K) then I say go Brandon

jud June 23, 2010 at 2:34 pm

agreed!

Stormin Norman $ June 22, 2010 at 11:34 pm

Twinkies lose 7-5 to the brew-crew… a gift from the baseball gods

Joey C. June 22, 2010 at 11:46 pm

Unfortunately we now have the sux breathing down our neck.

Coleman June 23, 2010 at 12:34 am

Eh. The Sux? Color me blase.

Coleman June 23, 2010 at 12:34 am

The Sux will do something typical at the trade deadline, like, I dunno, Milton Bradley?

Coleman June 23, 2010 at 12:16 am

A lot of things went wrong tonight, but clearly the key issue was having an hour rain delay without Todd Jones

Jeff Molby June 23, 2010 at 12:19 am
Coleman June 23, 2010 at 12:30 am

Silver lining: how about Boesch? Road game, big market big stage blah blah blah, rain delay, and he smokes one over the 415 sign…and next time up rips a single…I’m not foreseeing Chris Shelton here.

Good luck: K-Burn gets hit by a pitch. Bad luck: the rally lasts long enough that he comes up a 2nd time (K). I’m not normally like this, but I’ve had enough of “No Y.”. He has “Craig Monroe” written all over him…

Steve June 23, 2010 at 9:31 am

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