Game 140: Angels at Tigers

by billfer on September 4, 2008 · 146 comments

in 2008 Season,Game Post

PREGAME: An afternoon delight today as the Angels leave town. It will be Kenny Rogers and Ervin Santana doing battle today. The last time Rogers faced the Angels he shut them out for 7 innings and held them to 5 hits. The last time Santana faced the Tigers he held them to 2 runs on 3 hits in 9 innings. Santana’s numbers are pretty filthy of late, with 4 straight quality starts and a 33:4 K:BB ratio over the last 28.1 innings.

Sheffield’s shoulder is barking so Magglio will DH. Mike Hessman returns to third base. One other note from Beck’s pregame blog: Dusty Ryan hit the Charlie Gehringer statue during batting practice. That’s a long freakin’ ways from home plate.

LAA @ DET, Thursday, September 4, 2008 Game Preview – Baseball-Reference.com

 
 

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Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:12 pm

(Texeira double in 1st) When is a changeup not a changeup? When you throw 4 in a row.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:14 pm

Passed ball by Inge. Don’t see that too often.

Angels DP on a liner to 3B! Did it look as spectacular as it read?

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:15 pm

But Kenny seems to be getting hammered.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:18 pm

Took 9 pitches to K Grandy there.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:19 pm

Polanco grounds out to SS. What a bust.

Chris in Dallas September 4, 2008 at 1:21 pm

Go to the ESPN MLB Scoreboard page and look at the headshot of Teixeira. I’ll have to give him credit for having such a successful career in spite of his Down’s Syndrome.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:21 pm

Ordonez strikes out on a slider. 1-0 Angels after one.

Chris in Dallas September 4, 2008 at 1:23 pm

These overpaid fatcats suck.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:24 pm

Hunter singles. Kenny appears to be fooling nobody with nothing.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:25 pm

Relax, Torii. Just wait for the passed ball.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:27 pm

Rivera doubles, Hunter scores, 2-0 Angels. Every hit so far looks about knee-high over the plate on Gameday.

cib September 4, 2008 at 1:28 pm

At the beginning of this season I never thought I’d be counting the days until it was finally over. This is brutal. It’s a beautiful day and I didn’t even bother to walk over to the game.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:29 pm

Wood flies out to the track in right and there is one out. This just isn’t looking good at all so far.

Chris in Dallas September 4, 2008 at 1:32 pm

The Tigers will win this game. They are going to score at least 12 runs. I feel it.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:34 pm

Ha ha. Rivera took 3rd on the fly, and I didn’t see how Rogers was going to get out of the inning without another run, but Mathis bunts foul to Inge and Rivera is doubled off 3B. Nice. Cool. Kenny catches a break when the Angels get too clever.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:34 pm

Chris: They’d better start soon.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:38 pm

Thames grounds out to 3B, ending the inning, wasting Ham Sandwich’s double. Thames is a bum. I’ve always said so.

2-0 Angels after 2. Please, Kenny. Pretend it’s the Yankees.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:43 pm

Well, Gameday is its usual balky self, but things have picked up where they left off, apparently. 2 on and none out for Quinlan already.

If the bats wake up, this is the kind of funky Rogers start that is winnable despite all. But I have a bad feeling.

Chris in Dallas September 4, 2008 at 1:45 pm

I hate Quinlan. What kind of an a-hole spells Rob with 2 b’s?

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:46 pm

“These overpaid fatcats suck.”

Ron, at least have the courage to post this under your own name.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:49 pm

Well, it’s 4-0 Angels, somehow, Rogers out. 11 batters faced, 8 hits. Hang it up, bud.

But AQUILINO is in! All is well, and all is well, and all manner of things are well. No more than 4 runs will score before the 7th.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:50 pm

Maybe his name is Robbert, Chris. At least he doesn’t spell it Bobb. That would just be wrong.

Chris in Dallas September 4, 2008 at 1:52 pm

Well at least Jimmuh had the common sense to get Kenny the eff out of there before the damage became too severe. I’m going to eat lunch now. I hope it’s not 11-0 by the time I get back.

Amanda September 4, 2008 at 1:54 pm

haha Mario said it’s like a “merry-go-round for the Angels today” explains why I’m getting nauseous

ron September 4, 2008 at 1:55 pm

OK. These overpaid fat cats suck. And don’t bother me. I’m still in mourning for the good old days when these guys had two jobs and had to work for a living and were basically slaves to the massuh. Now that was baseball.

ron September 4, 2008 at 1:57 pm

And bleacher seats were .50 cents and………..

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 1:59 pm

Aquilino is at 70 pitches after a masterful 9-pitch K of fearsome Brandon Wood. 2 outs. 1st and 3rd. 6-0 Angels.

Amanda September 4, 2008 at 2:00 pm

^^and you had to walk 11 miles in 10 feet of snow to school every morning..we know :)

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:02 pm

“Now that was baseball.”

Stop it, Ron. I’m on the fence and starting to wobble.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:03 pm

What happened? It’s still only 6-0 Angels, and Tigers are up with 2 outs. Grandy up. Triple?? Please. Give us a reason to live.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Oops. Granderson gone. No negative runs scored, though, damage contained. 0-6 after 3.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:06 pm

Seriously, I hope the Tigers just give Kenny the rest of the season off. Enough already.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:07 pm

Where is Fossum? I want Fossum. TAKE ME TO THE FOSSUM!

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 2:12 pm

Thankfully I forgot about this game and thus missed the first three innings of horror

Chris in Dallas September 4, 2008 at 2:13 pm

Obviously this lineup can’t do anything without Sheffield in it. He strikes fear into the opponent by his very presence.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 2:15 pm

Wooo! Base hit!!!

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 2:17 pm

I say this a lot, but I mean it this time: Ervin Santana has the worst facial hair I have ever seen.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:25 pm

Ooof. Thus ends the threat of the day, 1st and 2nd with 0 out evaporating just like that. Matt Joyce’s Gameday smile is endearing when he gets a hit or walks. Very dopey otherwise.

Nice try, Edgo. At least you put it in the outfield.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:31 pm

If Aquilino Lopez thinks he can court favor with me by striking out Vlad Guererro and otherwise retiring the Angels in order, he’s dead wrong. I’ve already traded him.

I’ll reconsider if he changes his name to Aqualeon.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:34 pm

Marcus walks! Doesn’t strike out! This, to me, is a moral victory.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:36 pm

Hessman, Olympic hero, is robbed of a HR in short left.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:37 pm

Inge pinch-runs for Marcus. Well, it did cost an out.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:39 pm

That didn’t like a very good pitch for Granderson to strike out on. I liked the first K better.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 2:41 pm

Oh thank god, Robertson is warming up

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:42 pm

6-0 Angels, then, after 5. Based on 2008 results, odds of a Tigers win hover around 0%. Where is Sky when we need an injection of good cheer?

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:44 pm

Robertson? Where is Fossum? Damn it, I said I want Fossum.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:45 pm

Why couldn’t Lopez have started up with this get guys out stuff right away in the 3rd?

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:47 pm

Polly leads off the 6th with a single. Now we’re cooking.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 2:48 pm

Sky quit a few weeks ago, remember?

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:48 pm

Ooops. Maggs DP.

I get the sense Erwig has a pretty good slider.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:49 pm

Dave, I just know he’s lurking. No one can bear to look away from this train wreck for too long.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:51 pm

Besides, Sky only pops in when the bullpen just has or is just about to blow a game. Remember?

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 2:51 pm

I know I can’t.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 2:52 pm

We have about five people that only pop in after a loss. I wonder if they’re like that in other facets of life

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 2:53 pm

Robertson’s in! Watch out, Angels, ’cause it’s gum-time!

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:53 pm

So Maggs and Joyce team up to waste 2 hits. But they’re playing Jeff Beck’s “Freeway Jam” on the radio, so I’m doing OK.

After 6, Tigers down by 6 en route to shutout #12.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 2:56 pm

*deep breath*

It’s about time we saw some good pitching from Robertson. Really. I mean, the guy doesn’t stink, hasn’t lost it completely. Does he? Has he?

Whoa, “Free Will” by Rush. I’m in heaven!

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:04 pm

“We have about five people that only pop in after a loss. I wonder if they’re like that in other facets of life”

I’ve noticed, but I don’t fault them completely. There’s a need to vent when the Tigers do badly. When the Tigers do well, it just seems like you’re pointing out the obvious when you say things like “nice job by Cabrera with the 4 RBI!”

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:07 pm

Well, Tigers are still down 6-0 after a 7th inning it seems I might as well have missed. I just hope Thames or Hessman or both hit a HR. I’d gladly settle for that. Cabrera, even.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:09 pm

OK, Nate gives up a HR – to center field – to Torii Hunter. 7-0. OK, Nate, now we remember who you are. Thanks for reminding us.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 3:14 pm

Granderson homer prevents the shutout. No shutout = win

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:15 pm

Well, Brandon took that ball for a ride, but it’s center field at Comerica.

Yes! Granderson takes it out to right-center! On the board! Erwig is tired.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:16 pm

Shields in. Time to rock and roll. Last chance.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:17 pm

“No shutout = win”

Tigers are 129-11!

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 3:18 pm

FSN has now focused on a squirrel on top of the centerfield fence for about twenty seconds.

Chris September 4, 2008 at 3:20 pm

Angels own the Tigers this year. Just like most of the teams in the AL

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:21 pm

Meaning to continue the joke, I came upon an astounding fact: The White Sox have also been shut out 11 times.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 3:22 pm

Sean:

Wow, really? I guess our string of shutouts isn’t all that impressive any more. Joke retired.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 3:23 pm

Dusty Ryan appearance — he’s making a one-inning debut, apparently. Rod has already complimented the young man for having a “nice profile”.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:23 pm

“FSN has now focused on a squirrel on top of the centerfield fence for about twenty seconds.”

That’s why I hate Gameday. Couldn’t they at least put up a little fake graphic squirrel? I never know what’s going on.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 3:24 pm

To be fair, it was pretty hilarious. The squirrel was ridiculously sprawled out and lazy.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:27 pm

Robertson, with 2 outs and none on in the top of the 9th, is threatening to stymie our supply of bullpen joke material.

I’m looking forward to seeing Dusty Ryan, provided he’s due up.

Robertson retires the side. What’s the use? There’s no humor in 7 runs. It’s so ordinary.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:29 pm

Ah, I see there’s no way Ryan will come to the plate.

cib September 4, 2008 at 3:30 pm

I’m going to watch the recording of the game when I get home just to see the squirrel. How pathetic is that?

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 3:32 pm

Armando vs. Liriano tomorrow. Good times!

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:33 pm

Yes, the 11 White Sox shutouts (against) was real. The Twins have been shut out 7 times.

Edgar, hanging tough with Joyce on 1B and 0 out. Be a hero, Edgo.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 3:34 pm

jeez, what the hell are you swinging at, edgar???

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:34 pm

For God’s sake, Marcus, throw us a bone.

Amanda September 4, 2008 at 3:35 pm

Got back from the store, just in time to see the Tigers lose :(

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 3:36 pm

I will not accept anything less than six runs from Hessman in this single at bat.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:37 pm

Marcus pops out to 3B after the Edgo K. Pitch #3 to Thames looked like the kind he would have parked in June.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 3:37 pm

Hessman double; Ryan at bat!

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:38 pm

“I will not accept anything less than six runs from Hessman in this single at bat.’

Took the words out of my mouth. He WAS in the Olympics, after all.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:39 pm

YES! Mike Hessman has given me the will to live for at least one more day! Even if Joyce didn’t score, lousy bum.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 3:39 pm

Ryan k’s to end the game as well as this embarrassing season series

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:40 pm

I blame Dusty Ryan for the loss. I can see why Jim Leyland doesn’t trust younger players.

Amanda September 4, 2008 at 3:41 pm

cib; maybe you should of gone to the game today. Possibly could of seen the squirrel up close and personal

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 3:46 pm

Well, what can we take away from this one? Um… well, they could just leave Hessman at 3B the rest of the season. I’d be more than fine with that.

Pretty good long relief, except for Lopez in the 3rd.

Um… no, there’s nothing more good to say. Let the mocking begin.

How can they play like this after such a great game yesterday? Blecch.

I would like to ask Gary Sheffield if he was being platooned today, though.

Coleman September 4, 2008 at 4:12 pm

Amanda: ‘cib; maybe you should of gone to the game today. Possibly could of seen the squirrel up close and personal”

Not too close though, in case Amanda gets bored and tries to see if she can pick it off from where she sits with her hunting rifle.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 4:20 pm

If we try real hard, we can make it to 100 posts, thus playing a little joke on those unaware that nothing of any interest whatsoever happened during this game. Maybe I should say “if I try real hard,” since 75 of them are mine.

The joke would appear to be on me.

Amanda September 4, 2008 at 4:26 pm

haha Coleman My duck call leaves a lot to be desired.. ducks have been known to drown themselves, that being said.. I’m a pretty good marksman err woman thus the choice of occupation ;)
*9 more posts to 100*

Amanda September 4, 2008 at 4:31 pm

Do the Tigers have a day off tomorrow? Next game Sat @ 3:30 against the Twins? just checking
*8 more to 100 *

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 4:46 pm

Good one, Amanda. No, the Detroit Tigers…

Dr Dre in Chicago September 4, 2008 at 4:46 pm

Amanda,

I felt bad for you when I saw Rayburn wasn’t in the line-up.

*6 more to 100*

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 4:47 pm

… play the Minnesota Twins…

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 4:47 pm

… at the Metrodome…

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 4:47 pm

… tomorrow night at 8:10.

Dr Dre in Chicago September 4, 2008 at 4:50 pm

Loon,

A good wine you may like is Norman Vineyards “Monster” Zin.

*2 more to 100*

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 4:51 pm

I’ll have to check on this, but it seems that almost every time the Tigers have played the Twins, they’ve come in on a high note and been laid low. Maybe it’s time for that to change. This loss (and this series) wasn’t exactly a high note, all in all.

Vince in MN September 4, 2008 at 4:51 pm

Just saw the box and it looks like more of the same from Rogers. The question I have is:
Is there any reason to let him pitch other than him getting to those milestones where the bonuses kick in? In his last 8 starts: 42IP 60H 40R 21BB – almost a run per inning and a WHIP of close to 2. Robertson’s worse (!), so they can’t go back to him. Is it possible they really don’t have anybody else to put out there every 5th start – Oh wait, now I remember: Bonine is injured – never mind.

My second critical question of the day:
Does Inge need a new catcher’ s mitt or is he just mixing up his equipment again – you know, the glove for the other “thing”?

Amanda September 4, 2008 at 4:53 pm

Woot! 100 posts *mine 101* for a sucky game. Tiger fans should be proud :P

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 4:56 pm

“I felt bad for you when I saw Rayburn wasn’t in the line-up.”

So you had to bring that up again, eh, Dre? Well, I know what Ryan is going though. The unwanted attention, the constant self-consciousness, the difficulty of finding pants that fit comfortably. Sometimes you wish they’d look you in the eyes once in a while, but as soon as you look away, where have their eyes wandered? It’s h… very difficult.

ha ha ha

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 4:57 pm

“Bonine is injured – never mind.”

Well, what’s the harm in giving Willis and Garcia some starts?

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 4:58 pm

Well, maybe Willis has that forearm thing still, haven’t heard the latest on that.

Amanda September 4, 2008 at 5:00 pm

haha Dre — again with the Raburn. Where has he been? Maybe he was just extra happy that day. Now too embarrassed , for fear of showing off his “protective gear” again.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 5:00 pm

Andre: My girlfriend is still in the process of educating me about wines. To me, they all sort of taste like… wine. I can tell the difference between white and red if I’m allowed to peek.

Vince in MN September 4, 2008 at 5:05 pm

Loon,
I think Garcia and Willis are both on limited pitch counts, but there is no reason that you couldn’t plan to have them both pitch 2-3 innings in the same game (or 4 walks in Willis’ case, whichever comes first). On the other hand, if they are both performing so well pitching in simulated games, why would you want to ruin it.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 5:06 pm

“Does Inge need a new catcher’ s mitt”

All those passed balls have to be a concern, but otherwise, he seems OK defensively. What say you people who watch the games?

Has Inge’s trade value increased this season? Call me crazy, but I think it has. I’m not sure if they can or should trade him. Just sayin’.

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 5:13 pm

Vince: OK, back to the drawing board on starters. Hmmmm. Virgil Vasquez? Yorman Bazardo? Why not?

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 5:18 pm

We could probably dig up the corpse of Jordan Tata for one last try

Smoking Loon September 4, 2008 at 5:21 pm

Yeah, I was just reading about Tata. Pretty sad story.

Coleman September 4, 2008 at 5:29 pm

Vince in Min: “Just saw the box and it looks like more of the same from Rogers.”

I’m glad you posted that, since I looked through the box scores, and did a little research (just the looking up kind, not the beer-related type), and there may actually be something significant that happened today.

Chris in Dallas September 4, 2008 at 5:30 pm

Holy crap. You guys have been on fire since I left.

Dave BW September 4, 2008 at 5:40 pm

Tell us, Coleman! Tell us!!

Vince in MN September 4, 2008 at 5:44 pm

I guess it would have to be somebody on the 40-man roster. I am not sure the Tigers have any starting pitchers on the 40-man roster (other than the current 5) that are not injured or have ERAs under 6.00.

Coleman September 4, 2008 at 5:51 pm

Yep, it seems to check out…

With the DP in the first inning (line-drive, got runner on 3rd), Kenny Rogers now has 11 this season–which gives him the **ALL-TIME TIGERS SINGLE SEASON RECORD** for double-plays by a pitcher, which Dan Petry has held since he got 10 in 1983. (Dizzy Trout had held the record since 1945 with 9).

Rogers also holds the Rangers single-season record with 7 in 2005.

I wonder if Kenny even knows??

Vince in MN September 4, 2008 at 6:02 pm

Good ole Kenny. At least he can still field his position, in which case he deserves to go out there every 5th start and “take one for the team.”

Mark in Chicago September 4, 2008 at 6:14 pm

I would merely point out that in order to have 11 DPs turned on your behalf, you first must allow a LOT of baserunners.

That is all.

Coleman September 4, 2008 at 6:14 pm

Maybe he can play short…

Coleman September 4, 2008 at 6:46 pm

Most double-plays by pitchers, single season, all-time, major league:

15 1953 Bob Lemon (CLE)

12 1976 Randy Jones (SDN)
12 1934 Curt Davis (PHI)
12 1924 Eddie Rommel (PHA)

11* 2008 Kenny Rogers (DET)
11 2001 Kirk Reuter (SFN)
11 1948 Gene Bearden (CLE)
11 1925 Burleigh Grimes (BRO)
11 1920 Art Nehf (NY)
11 1919 Tom Rogers (PHA)
11 1919 Scott Perry (PHA)

Speaking of a lot of baserunners, I notice two of the other guys who got 11 were from the Philadelphia Athletics. The same season.

Also, you can’t beat being on a list with a guy named Burleigh Grimes.

Vince in MN September 4, 2008 at 6:55 pm

Burleigh Arland Grimes to be exact. One of the last legal spitballers if memory serves. His first name was pronounced “Boily”, being that he for many years pitched for Brooklyn.

Coleman September 4, 2008 at 7:07 pm

Burleigh sounds like a riot. Baseball-reference.com lists him as “Burleigh Arland Grimes (Ol’ Stubblebeard)”…I guess maybe he scuffed the ball on his chin in addition to the spitball…

stephen September 4, 2008 at 7:36 pm

re: Has Inge’s trade value increased this season? Call me crazy, but I think it has.

Ok, I call you crazy. A guy with Sal Fasano career numbers, hitting .218, crummy defensive catcher, and owed 12-13 m does not equal trade value increase.

Then again, Loon if you were joking that was really funny.

Rick G September 4, 2008 at 7:58 pm

Inge’s trade value has increased if you consider he was owed something like $18 million at the beginning of the season. So there’s less of that God-awful contract left to cover. That’s gotta be worth something, right?

stephen September 4, 2008 at 8:01 pm

Absolutely! Now if the Tigers chose to eat 12 of the 13m, he’d be imminently tradeable. If Inge was a team’s jack of all trades and got 180 ab’s and he made 600 grand he’d be a bargain.

Kathy September 4, 2008 at 8:01 pm

Last night’s game seems like a long time ago!

Amanda September 4, 2008 at 8:15 pm

It sure does Kathy. I would be happy with a series sweep..pfft a series win at this point. Esp against the Twins.. which the Smoking Loon thankfully set me straight -starts tomorrow at 8:10.

Vince in MN September 4, 2008 at 11:17 pm

Coleman, back in Ol Stubblebeard’s day the ball or balls (yes, both of them!) were probably pretty well scuffed up by the first pitch. Well, maybe I am going back a bit too far there. I wonder when the practice of having an unlimited number of balls for a game came into being.

ron September 5, 2008 at 12:39 am

These guys are disgraceful. Can one of them throw the ball 200 feet on the fly without bouncing it like a girl. Half the balls they swing at, it seems like they have a patch over one eye. There is probably eight of them that could play in any era. The rest of them should be selling shoes at Penneys. This isn’t baseball, it’s s— ball. And it was actually 10 miles in 11 feet of snow. And that squirrel is the same one that showed up at Yankee Stadium earlier in the year. He heard that there were a bunch of nuts paying good money to see this crap.

ron September 5, 2008 at 12:51 am

Back in the old days they used one ball. People were nice and threw the ball back on the field. They weren’t like people today who karate chop some old lady in the stands to get to a ball. But I do understand that most modern day fans have never held a baseball in their hands and it’s a real novelty for them to bring one home and brag to everyone how they made a terrific catch to snag it.

ron September 5, 2008 at 12:55 am

And another thing……

ron September 5, 2008 at 1:05 am

Sky is going to come back with a vengence. You’ll see.

ron September 5, 2008 at 1:11 am

Well, I’m waiting. Oh, is it past your beddy bye time? That’s what’s nice about being a stubblebeard. You can’t beat a baloney sandwich and a good infomercial at 3 A.M. in the morning. That’s a real turn on for the over 60 crowd.

Coleman September 5, 2008 at 1:42 am

My baloney has a first name–it’s H-A-M.
My baloney has a second name–it’s S-A-N-D-W-I-C-H.
My baloney has a twin named B-O-L-O-G-N-A

Chris in Dallas September 5, 2008 at 10:33 am

You can’t beat a baloney sandwich and a good infomercial at 3 A.M. in the morning.

As opposed to 3 AM in the afternoon. ;)

Smoking Loon September 5, 2008 at 10:49 am

Holy mackerel.

Anyway, no, I’m sorry to say I wasn’t joking about Inge’s trade value increasing.

a) His value to the Tigers went up in 2008, against all odds.
b) His contribution to the team went up in 2008. Help me out here, Coleman.
c) He’s overpaid, yes, but not Sheffield-overpaid. He can actually play in the field – all over the place.
d) Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think Pudge for Farnsworth – made possible by Inge – paid Brandon’s salary this year.

It wouldn’t kill the Tigers to pick up 2-3 million of Inge’s contract to move him. If they’re not going to get real and put an actual third basement they already have at 3B, then I think they ought to. And then go out and get a great defensive catcher and an all-around solid 3B like Beltre.

If Inge is overpaid as a third basement, how much more so as a catcher?

Smoking Loon September 5, 2008 at 10:55 am

Now, now, Chris. Don’t mock the hexagenarians. Punching out Vin Scully left me crippled with guilt, and I don’t want to see you end up as I have.

Dr Dre in Chicago September 5, 2008 at 11:12 am

stephen,

you’re only allowed 3 more Sal Fasano references. if i may offer some advice, save them for mustache comments. starting immediately after this post, i will impose a similar Rayburn restriction on myself. lord knows what i’ll save mine for.

Smoking Loon September 5, 2008 at 11:32 am

Speaking of Raburn, the guy can hit once in a while, but is there any position he can play well? LF, maybe? Unless he has more potential than Joyce or Thomas there… well, Santiago is at least as good as and in my opinion better than Raburn as a utility infielder. So is Raburn even around in 2009, and if so, why?

Yeah, OK, it’s jealousy and resentment.

Dr Dre in Chicago September 5, 2008 at 12:10 pm

Can anyone comment on Inge’s catching prior to this year? I’ve heard comments alluding to him actually having been a stellar defensive catcher when he fist came up. Is there a good chance that these lapses / passed balls will decrease as he re-acclimates?

stephen September 5, 2008 at 12:30 pm

Word.
I’d go to Gregg Zaun references, but Zaun is infinitely a better catcher, a slightly better hitting, and significantly more affordable.

You know when you don’t match up well with Zaun, the ship be sinking.

Chris in Dallas September 5, 2008 at 12:34 pm

The defensive aspect of catching is kinda hard to quantify I suppose. On the plus side, he’s not made any errors and he’s throwing out a passable % of potential base stealers (27.3). Not superb, but not horsebleep either. The passed balls are a bit worrisome. What’s really interesting is that Inge hasn’t made an error at any position in the field on the season in 94 games played. Not that errors are the be-all and end-all of fielding statistics or anything, but that’s still pretty neat.

Chris in Dallas September 5, 2008 at 12:36 pm

I’m going to start making Brad Ausmus references now. Did you know that he actually hit a HR this season for Houston? As if that weren’t rare enough, he hit it in the same inning as Darin Erstad. And let me tell you, those were two of the scrappiest, gamiest HR or all time. If only Eckstein could’ve somehow gotten in on the action, the universe may have imploded upon itself into a black hole of grit.

Chris in Dallas September 5, 2008 at 3:16 pm

Man. Aquilino Lopez is awesome. He struck out a guy on a 4-2 pitch yesterday. Sweet.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3571181

Coleman September 5, 2008 at 4:53 pm

Chris in Dallas: “Man. Aquilino Lopez is awesome. He struck out a guy on a 4-2 pitch yesterday. Sweet.”

They say that catching is a complicated position and that there are many things that go into being a catcher that the fan just doesn’t see. These seems to be an example of one of them…

Umpire: oh @!!**….um, what was the count again catcher?
Inge: um..1-2, yeah, that’s it, 1-2 (heh heh)

Mark in Chicago September 5, 2008 at 4:59 pm

Carlos Quentin may be done for the year with a broken wrist.

The baseball gods are smiling on me today…

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