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Game 67: Dodgers at Tigers

PREGAME: So the Tigers are playing good. We’ve seen this a couple times before where they swept a team, only to slide backwards. What’s different this time is that the Tigers aren’t playing the Twins immediately following said sweep.

The Tigers welcome in the Dodgers and Derek Lowe tonight. The Tigers as a group have pretty limited experience against Lowe, but it hasn’t been good. Lowe has only allowed 6 runs in the 29 innings spanning his last 4 starts. He’s struck out 17 and walked 7 over that time with only 2 homers allowed.

Taking the mound for Detroit is Armando Galarraga. Galarraga defeated the Indians his last time out.

It looks like we’ll have some weather tonight so hopefully they can get this one in amidst the storms.
LAD @ DET, Friday, June 13, 2008 Game Preview – Baseball-Reference.com

POSTGAME: Hey all, it’s a 4 game winning streak. Your 2008 Detroit Tigers first shut out of the year came via Armando Galarraga and Freddy Dolsi. Just like Dave Dombrowski drew it up I’m sure.

Happy times at the ballpark tonight. If Detroit can get 1 of the next 2 I think you have to call it a successful homestand.

Posted by on June 13, 2008.

Categories: 2008 Season, Game Post

222 Responses

  1. Who was the last ‘hometown guy’ to pitch against the Tigers? Smoltz faced them in Atlanta, and I think got beat by Verlander. Anyone remember anything at home?
    I am a tad bit worried about Grilli coming back, but first I need to worry about Lowe.

    by Dave T. on Jun 13, 2008 at 4:26 pm

  2. Dave: Here’s a list of MLB pitchers born in Michigan. I was too lazy to look up to see who might have been the last one to pitch at CoPa, although one of my all time favorite names is on there (Assenmacher, Paul…hehe)

    http://www.baseball-almanac.co.....c=Michigan

    by Chris in Dallas on Jun 13, 2008 at 5:03 pm

  3. “Rasty Wright, Birmingham, 1890″

    Ah, what a thriving metropolis late-19th century Birmingham must have been…

    by Dave BW on Jun 13, 2008 at 5:44 pm

  4. Sitting upstairs at Chelis. Still. Raining.

    by billfer on Jun 13, 2008 at 6:20 pm

  5. How about now? Still raining?

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 6:49 pm

  6. yeppers. Tarp is out.

    UPDATE: Rain delay.

    by Dave BW on Jun 13, 2008 at 7:02 pm

  7. Dave T, I was at that game in Atlanta you speak of last year…that was Kenny’s first game back from injury and they both pitched great but the Tigers got to Smoltz in the 5th and won. Verlander pitched the next day and won too. They were on fire at that time, they haven’t been as good since.

    by Chris in Nashville on Jun 13, 2008 at 7:09 pm

  8. I was just thinking of that game Chris. They ripped 5 or 6 hits off of Smoltz in a row and ended up with a 5 run inning or something. Ahh, the good ol’ days.

    Anyone have any idea as to a length for the delay?

    by Kevin in Austin on Jun 13, 2008 at 7:11 pm

  9. From the look at the radar, It is clearing and clear to the SW

    by West Coast Tiger on Jun 13, 2008 at 7:23 pm

  10. I have some friends over, Dodger fans at that. I’ll keep the good Beer for us.

    by West Coast Tiger on Jun 13, 2008 at 7:25 pm

  11. Tarp is off the infield. Estimated start of 810.

    by billfer on Jun 13, 2008 at 7:30 pm

  12. CLE is in a delay now, so maybe it is moving away from Comerica.

    by Kevin in Austin on Jun 13, 2008 at 7:30 pm

  13. By the way, the Smoltz game referred to, I distinctly remember the post-game interview with Smoltz after the Tigers rocked him for five runs in the 5th, and he insisted he was throwing his “best stuff” all year, and the Tigers were just “that good.”

    To reiterate Kevin in Austin, ahh the good ol’ days.

    by T Smith on Jun 13, 2008 at 7:53 pm

  14. hey Jim nice line up could you find any more guys besides Sheff hitting under .241

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 7:54 pm

  15. Alright I got the DVR working. It has worked the last 3 games. I’m going out tonight. I will be back later to check on the game. Go Tigers!!!

    by Brian in Tampa on Jun 13, 2008 at 8:08 pm

  16. Why does Polanco get a day off? He’s hot-hot-hot!

    by Brian P on Jun 13, 2008 at 8:10 pm

  17. Like me, Marcus must not like the appearance of the bullpen. He almost demolished that wall.

    by Brian P on Jun 13, 2008 at 8:16 pm

  18. Thames. Myyyy boy. It looked to me like he robbed a homer there. It would have been real close.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 8:17 pm

  19. Okay, that was a bizarre play. First, why not throw out Maggs at first and be done with it? Then a missed tag . . . nice move by Guillen.

    EDIT: Okay, the tag was made. But still, get the obvious out at first in a force situation and be done with it.

    EDIT 2: I must be missing something, I can’t see Maggs beating out a slow roller barring a bobble by the 3B.

    by Jeff on Jun 13, 2008 at 8:27 pm

  20. catcher sets up outside calls for outside fastball…Lowe jams Cabrerra….. so much for aiming

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 8:34 pm

  21. I think he did bobble that ball, Jeff. Or at least had a hard time getting it out of his glove. I don’t really understand why Guillen tried for home though. I was hoping we could bank off of that missed call, but it looks like justice has prevailed. Stupid Justice.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 8:34 pm

  22. what happened to the strike zone that half..he squeeezed Galarrara especially after calling every just outside pitch Lowe threw a strike

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 8:49 pm

  23. Guillen made an Inge!!

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 8:55 pm

  24. Pop up foul ball that basically reaches the seats along the first base line. Guess who gets that ball. I’ll give you one hint: it wasn’t Cabrera.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 8:59 pm

  25. Why are both Polanco and Renteria sitting down tonight? This guy is a tough pitcher to hit, obviously, and we need all the veteran batters we can get. I understand resting one but not both at the same time. We have 3 rookies in there who are pretty much nothing to count on offensively.

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:08 pm

  26. Hey, TV watching, high-speed Internet, fast typing people – how about throwing some play by play out for the poor dial-up crowd (of one?). It’s agony here, man.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:10 pm

  27. No score after 3.5.Ordonez up

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:16 pm

  28. 2-1 on Mags Sean….grounds out easily to short

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:16 pm

  29. No one is making much contact against this guy.

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:17 pm

  30. They still have dial up?

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:19 pm

  31. Thanks, Sky. I don’t know why Renteria is out. I think he’s got good career numbers against Lowe. An ordinary day of rest, I guess. Maybe they want him back there for when Bonine starts.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:20 pm

  32. Cabrera strikes out on a really bad pitch that fooled him. Seems to be a problem seeing Lowe’s pitches for everyone……..Also, Blue seems to be giving him a more generous zone than he is for Gallaraga..no score after 4

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:20 pm

  33. David G – Only I have dial up. Well, me and Rasty Wright. When we die, it’s all over.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:22 pm

  34. When will the Larish era start? Or does it end before it begins…maybe he doesn’t know that when (if) Sheff is healthy then Larish is the odd man out. Get hot soon.
    I’ve watching the strike zone on ESPN Gamecast and it looks generous to Lowe on low, especially inside pitches.

    by Neal on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:25 pm

  35. I don’t like this. Good pitchers the last couple days, sure, but if they can put 5 runs on Smoltz with his best stuff. The team’s not THAT different. Minus Shef, plus Cabrera.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:25 pm

  36. Neal, I think the Age Of Larish began in Oakland and ended against Cleveland.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:29 pm

  37. I hate these days where it looks like we are swinging just to swing…lots of lazy balls hit..

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:29 pm

  38. scuse me that wasn’t that lazy…Thames again

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:30 pm

  39. Am I being a total homer here or does it seem like Galarraga might actually be a pretty good pitcher, like a middle of the rotation guy?

    I keep waiting for him to have a bad outing, and it really hasn’t happened yet. He’s been consistently good this season. I’m sure its because there isn’t much of a book on the guy yet, but he’s got good stuff. I hope so, because I picked him up on my fantasy team :)

    MARCUS!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Chris in Nashville on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:31 pm

  40. THAMES!!!!! 8th of the year GO Marcus GO!!!

    by Steve in Kzoo on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:31 pm

  41. That should make Thames the regular LF for at least another game.

    by Vince in MN on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:32 pm

  42. Marcus is in my lineup against sinkerball RHP from now on. He’s my everyday LF. Anyone on base for Country Strong?

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:34 pm

  43. Chris I agree(and did the same in my league, in picking him up) It just seems that Galarraga is grinding and making sure the Tigers know that he can be and is that good. I predict that he should be Tigers #4 next year with Willis/Miner as your number 5 if the Tigers dont go the FA route to round out the rotation. Galarraga is doing very nicely and hes just been outstanding. Hes every bit as good as Bondo will be the rest of the year I believe.

    But the Playoffs(if we make it) is another story not to sure there….

    by Steve in Kzoo on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:35 pm

  44. Some hard hits this inning.maybe they are starting to see the ball..but Granderson is not looking good these days. Way too many strikeouts and he is not hitting the ball decisively like he did. He takes too many called strikes and with 2 strikes he is always in trouble. Shut me up….He just hit a double down left field line!

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:36 pm

  45. Vince, you’ve gotta figure Thames sits tomorrow. He’s 31, you know.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:36 pm

  46. We really need a ball to get hit here to score. This has been a problem too often.

    Rookie up in first game of career

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:36 pm

  47. GOOD JOB KID…….Sac fly makes it 2-0

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:37 pm

  48. Come on Holliman show us that you are ready to step up to the big leagues. Not what I was expecting but a sac fly is a sac fly. You still have a lot to prove but I can see you as our starting SS next year. Nice Job!!

    by Steve in Kzoo on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:38 pm

  49. Now Guillen has a chance to add one more. (this is all for Sean —said he has no idea what is happening)

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:38 pm

  50. 2-0 after 5

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:39 pm

  51. hey Holliman that is better than your first major league hit because none of the /tigers can do what you just did…Sac RBI

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:40 pm

  52. Lowe hasn’t walked anybody, but is at 86 pitches now. They are making him work tonight.

    by Vince in MN on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:40 pm

  53. Does anyone have a way of calculating how many games we would have won with Thames in line-up instead of Shef? LOL…I can not see how they can go back to the way it was.

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:41 pm

  54. Sky, the only reason you can’t see is because you’re not looking hard enough.

    by Neal on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:43 pm

  55. Thanks for that Steve in Kzoo….he really has been money so far, each time out.

    by Chris in Nashville on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:43 pm

  56. I appreciate it, Sky. Kinda thin here tonight, harder to pick up just from comments what’s going on.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:44 pm

  57. Great. Just what we need. Who’s up next?

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:44 pm

  58. Leyland says: “Boy, I can’t imagine what it is like to run around the bases after a HR – it must be really tiring. I better sit Marcus tomorrow.”

    by Vince in MN on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:44 pm

  59. Ouch. Galarraga hit on the ankle by a liner, looks to be in pain. Hopefully he’s just out of this game and no more games after this . . . he’s gonna give it a go. The risk here is if he favors a leg and hurts his arm or a knee.

    by Jeff on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:44 pm

  60. Please be fine, Gallaragga….

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:45 pm

  61. Thames is the funk doctor. Greaaaatt. Pierre may have just knocked Armando out of the game by somehow sitting on the 50 mph looping breaking ball. How did he know!?

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:45 pm

  62. Phew. I was worried it was flippin’ broken.

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:46 pm

  63. Ouch on that liner. God I hope Galarraga can stay in. But if not then he better be ok for the rest of the season. Get that ankle treated. Thank god hes still in there. Come on Galarraga dont make me disappointing in you after such high praises. COME ON TIGERS!!!!

    PS to Chris I agree totally a very nice and surprising easy pick up for us in the off season. Who did we trade to get him again???

    by Steve in Kzoo on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:47 pm

  64. Sky, I do own a Sheffield vs. Thames Calculator, and the answer is 12. The Tigers would be 41-25 now.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:47 pm

  65. Sean, can I get one of those calculators at Sears??

    by Neal on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:50 pm

  66. Oh no. Don’t let Armando be hurt. That would suck worse than losing Bonderman.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:50 pm

  67. Thames is damn near the team leader in home runs with a 4th of the plate appearences. What does he have to do, Jimmy? Take away home runs from the other team? Oh yeah, he did that. Snap, Jimmy. Snap.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:50 pm

  68. Gallaraga stood up like Clark Kent and blew two more away. Bullets bounce off!

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:52 pm

  69. With the exception of “Walks” Willis blowup game, what is the run of quality starts now, anybody know off hand?

    by Vince in MN on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:53 pm

  70. I’m glad you guys filled us in on Armando, good thing he’s okay. ESPN Gamecast showed that as infield hit between home and third but next to the seats in foul territority. Makes sense now.

    by Neal on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:53 pm

  71. Sheffield vs. Thames? Sheff has created 15.5 runs in 161 plate appearances while using 107 outs. Thames has created 16.7 runs in 113 plate appearances while using 78 outs. If he had all of Sheff’s outs he’d have created 22.9 runs, or about 7.4 more runs than Sheff had. That’s a bit less than a win. 2 wins over a full season.

    Now of course they were in the lineup together on several occasions, so that’s oversimplifying, but it’s in that ballpark. While Sheffield has struggled, because of his walks he’s not been as damaging as some others. He’s actually slightly more productive than Pudge, for instance, as far as runs created per game.

    by Jeff on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:54 pm

  72. great pitching on both those last two hitters…..

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:54 pm

  73. Sorry, Neal. I got the last one before Jimmy bought the company that makes it. He destroyed the inventory and deleted all patent documents.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:54 pm

  74. Sean,

    Cabrera with a one out double right after Maggs hit a ball to the track that everyone thought was gone. Mario was elevating his voice and everything.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:57 pm

  75. Jeff, don’t bring me down with facts now. We get enough of that from Billfer.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:58 pm

  76. Larish advances runner to 3rd. 2 outs with the funk doctor at bat.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:58 pm

  77. Jeff:

    Then, that’s the answer. When Shef comes back, Pudge is out and Shef is our new Catcher.

    What, everyone else is learning a new position! :)

    by Joel in Seattle on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:58 pm

  78. I think the league has figured out how to get Larish out,,,you have to pitch the ball to him…

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:59 pm

  79. The funk doctor? Does that mean his HRs are “Funk Blasts?” I thought only Mariners hit Funk Blasts.

    by Joel in Seattle on Jun 13, 2008 at 9:59 pm

  80. The Doctor is IN!!!

    Ok, that was lame.

    by Joel in Seattle on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:00 pm

  81. Thanks, Ken. Getting to be a pattern, this long out by Maggs and extra base hit from Gil thing. I like it. Could be better, but I like it.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:00 pm

  82. there was funk non RBI

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:00 pm

  83. The funk doctor put so much funk on that ball that it squibbed off the first baseman’s glove to score the run.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:00 pm

  84. Oops, I just have Gamecast. All I saw was the “in play, runs scored” message and got too excited. Either way, it’s a run scored.

    by Joel in Seattle on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:01 pm

  85. Rookie mistake

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:01 pm

  86. That wasn’t lame, Joel. Anything that helps to perpetuate the doctor’s popularity is totally awesome.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:02 pm

  87. I am sooooooooooooooooooooooo relieved that Miner is available if needed. Aren’t you all?

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:04 pm

  88. Was it a funk blast to 1B? I’m still proud of Marcus. 3-0? Or are we up to 4-0 yet?

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:05 pm

  89. Armando seems to be able to throw strikes as needed. Has gone 2-0 on several then come back to get them.

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:06 pm

  90. Every time I think Galarraga is wearing down and falling behind, he starts throwing strikes. Given the Lakers’ problems, maybe Armando can replace Phil Jackson as the new Zen Master.

    by Jeff on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:07 pm

  91. Steve in Kzoo….I THINK we got him from Texas. Not sure if it was a trade or if he was a free agent. I looked on the Detroit Tigers Weblog to see, but Bilfer doesn’t even have the Medium Cat on the organizational tree page. Way to go Bilfer (j/k).

    by Chris in Nashville on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:07 pm

  92. Sean C,

    Just so you know, I’m in no way trying to replace the “Country Strong” nickname that you like to use for Thames. I’m just trying to trump it. Country Strong reminds me too much of Big Country Bryant Reeves from the expansion Memphis Grizzlies. That guy was a dbag.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:07 pm

  93. LOVE IT!…..3up 3down in 7th..You still folowing this Sean in C?

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:07 pm

  94. 7 innings 100 pitches… does Armando pitch the 8th, or does Lucky Strikes play with fire?

    by Joel in Seattle on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:08 pm

  95. It’s 30, by the way , Sean, not 4-0

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:08 pm

  96. It’s 3-0, Sean, and Armando just went 1-2-3 in the seventh.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:08 pm

  97. This is where Brandon just might sock one

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:10 pm

  98. Even money on a HR or a check-swing K

    by Joel in Seattle on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:11 pm

  99. Tiger preseason Media guide
    Gallaraga Pitched in Okl AA last year in the Texas league until Sep call up date by Texas Rangers
    was traded to Detroit For Micheal Hernandez in Feb 08

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:11 pm

  100. I’m here SKy, and thanks. Did AG sit ‘em down again?

    Ken, I know you’re a fan of the Country Doctor and his brand of strong funky medicine just like I am, so maybe we can compromise.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:11 pm

  101. or not

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:11 pm

  102. Raburn doubles to left Sean.

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:12 pm

  103. Thank you Judpma. I was far too lazy to look it up.

    by Chris in Nashville on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:13 pm

  104. Good (Raburn 2B). He’s got some work to do to get out of our doghouse.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:16 pm

  105. Sean, I like the compromise idea but can we go with Country Funk, M.D.?

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:19 pm

  106. Well, Sean..Grandy struck out again and Hollimon looked bad, too. As I said before, I do not really understand resting both Polanco and Renteria the same day. We now have 4 rookies in this line-up.

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:20 pm

  107. Raybun might be feeling the “Am I next to Toledo syndrome” and maybe he is starting to actually hit..at least he is peeking out of the dog house but definately still inside

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:20 pm

  108. Dolsi in the 8th

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:20 pm

  109. Can he throw strikes to nite?

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:20 pm

  110. for some reason I don’t feel comfortable yet. Mow’em down and erase that, Freddy.

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:22 pm

  111. TAKE HIM OUT NOW!!!!

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:22 pm

  112. Drives me crazy to see him throw 3 balls in a row in a relief job!

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:23 pm

  113. Country Funk, MD it is, Ken. Country Funk is actually pretty damn cool. I foresee a new genre of music by this name – just wait. There WAS country punk, after all.

    Sky, looking at the rest of the Tigers lineup, I have no problem with 4 rookies. Some teams would kill just to have Guillen-Ordonez-Cabrera and fill the rest of their lineup with garbage.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:25 pm

  114. If Dolsi gets sent down then I gotta think that Bautista will be on a short leash. Cause although they are now talking about it being “unfair” to keep sending Dolsi out in these situations it also builds confidence bordering on cockiness, which is not a bad thing for a setup guy.

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:25 pm

  115. All right….he got them 3 up 3 down……..Well done, Freddy.

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:25 pm

  116. At this point I would take Freddy over Bautista, wouldn’t y’alls?

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:27 pm

  117. Sean just so that “garbage” does good enough to keep Shef out of there I am fine with them…at least they play hard..

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:27 pm

  118. I live down the road from the Angels and Dodgers. Going to see the Tigers in San Diego next week I think. The Dodger announcers are really hurting, but they are not obnoxious like Harrleson.

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:28 pm

  119. Dolsi can be a rocky ride. Pretty sure he’s headed down Toledo way. Not sure I want that, but maybe I will after this inning.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:28 pm

  120. judpma – Don’t misunderstand. I’m not saying the Tiger rookies are garbage.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:30 pm

  121. Guillen must be counting the days tiil the Break.

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:31 pm

  122. HAHA, LOOK AT CABRERA READY TO ROLL!!!

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:31 pm

  123. Dolsi gets it done. I’ve been thinking Bautista is the odd man out. He’s still too wild.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:31 pm

  124. I knew that ..my point was the Sheff thing

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:32 pm

  125. Miggy!!!

    by Kevin in Austin on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:32 pm

  126. Miggy and Pudge would have crushed that guy.

    by Jeff on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:32 pm

  127. No doubt, Migs has to be top 5 in MLB in guys you want on your side in a brawl.

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:33 pm

  128. Miggy has now had his best two moments as a Tiger in successive nights.

    by Kevin in Austin on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  129. Take that, bigmouth

    by Jeff on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  130. I can’t believe he drills Guillen then pops off at Guillen…how dumb is this guy

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  131. haha! Oh my goodness. Miggy’s stare at Wade nearly had me in tears. He was ready to do the dirty work for his Maracay buddy.

    And. Magglio!

    by Brian P on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  132. Miggy’s gonna get drilled, for sure.

    EDIT: Then again, maybe not.

    by Jeff on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  133. Did u see that Sean….Maggs hits a 2 run blast to avenge Guillen getting hit!!!! 5-0

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:35 pm

  134. That’s just flat out awesome. Gotta love it.

    by Kevin in Austin on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:35 pm

  135. Yeah, Sean. The bullpens emptied and everything after Guillen got hit. Miggy had the priceless rumble face.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:36 pm

  136. how frickkkkin cool was that.

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:37 pm

  137. Awesome! You guys have got to give me some detail later on all this stuff here (Gullen HBP, etc.)

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:38 pm

  138. HAHA!!!! That was so great!!!!

    by Joey the K in Portland OR on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:38 pm

  139. I’ve had enough of Larish and his monstrous hacks. Send him down.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:39 pm

  140. David G – good list. Here are my top 5 off the top of my head (in no particular order)

    Big Papi
    Jim Thome (he just looks like he’s old man strong, kinda like your dad always can beat you up, regardless of size or age)
    Milton Bradley (he’ll do whatever it takes to win)
    Josh Hamilton (dude is just sick)
    Adam Dunn

    Honorable mention – Ryan Howard, but he looks like a sweet guy.

    by Kevin in Austin on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:39 pm

  141. the only thing about the HR that would have been sweeter would be to stare that loudmouth pitcher down all the way around the bases….Mags has too much class for that …I would have done that but I can’t hit a home run…some things never work out

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:40 pm

  142. No, Sky, I didn’t see. No TV. If you guys describe, I get to see it in my mind’s eye.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:41 pm

  143. Is this going to be our first pitching shutout?

    by Brian P on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:41 pm

  144. Dolsi is still not finding strike zone well enough

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:42 pm

  145. Larish probably goes down when the Tigs hit the left coast – no use for a DH then.

    by Vince in MN on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:42 pm

  146. I’ve got a real good feeling about this Tigers team all of a sudden. I’m climbing back up the fence from my spot just within the pessimist compound.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:42 pm

  147. But he is getting the outs

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:42 pm

  148. Was thinking the same thing about a stare down…downside is that it insures the next games in the series are a bloodbath when they needn’t be…and in fairness guillen should have walked his ass to first

    by Forty on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:43 pm

  149. This could be the Tigers’ first shut out FYI

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:43 pm

  150. Honestly, Kevin, I think I take Miggs over any of them.

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:44 pm

  151. Jeff Kent has been known to hit 5-run homers in his day…Careful, Freddy.

    by Ken from Cincinnati on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:44 pm

  152. Finally a shutout – last team to get one this year.

    by Vince in MN on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:44 pm

  153. Well, it has been nice for 4 days now. It should last as we play this lowly NL. Let us hope.the real challenge is when we are back in the division.

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:45 pm

  154. Six up, six down for the save…

    that is new…

    that is sexy…

    Freddy Solid is the New Sexy!

    by Joel in Seattle on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:45 pm

  155. You know Sean C, if you go to MLB.com, it will detect that you are on dial-up, and you can follow the game using a simplified gamecast specifically for slow download speeds.

    by Kevin in Austin on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:46 pm

  156. All 6 of them would wipe the floor with me :)

    by Forty on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:46 pm

  157. I am wonding if Dolsi pitching the 9th like that indicates that Rodney might be coming up tomorrow and Dolsi down.

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:46 pm

  158. Larish would be going down one way or t’other when Sheffield gets back. He’s a trade anyway, never going to play for the Tigers.

    Come on Dolsi.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:46 pm

  159. nice win…keep it going ….best thing was they didn’t score 10 so there might be some in the works for tomorrow…and Gallaraga was on tonight…the drop slider splitter what ever it was was wicked …

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:47 pm

  160. At 5’11″, 210, I’ll take my shot with Big Papi.

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:48 pm

  161. Sean, in bottom of 8th Guillen got HBP and the benches emptied, He had already been seen in the same AB by trainer for apparently hurting self on a swing. So the HBP seemed suspicious. Anyway, after they all settled down, Mags comes up and parks it to left.

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:48 pm

  162. Someone tomorrow on the Dodgers will get a close pitch at some point…under the chin…..I suspect.

    by Sky on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:49 pm

  163. Kevin

    Thanks, but it’s not that I lack for options. I just find them unsatisfactory, because they’re too damn slow, The best I can really do is by following a scoreboard transcript, which isn’t so slow (though inexplicable pauses happen). The problem there is how behind real time it is. I see something good/bad and want to celebrate/complain, come over to DTW and see that it’s already an inning later and everyone is talking about something else.

    So… that’s I why I beg for play by play (or something like it, updates at least) here. Nothing like accounts from fellow fans.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:55 pm

  164. David G, I think Dolsi pitching the 9th only indicates that it wasn’t a Jones situation score-wise.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 10:58 pm

  165. Possibly, Sean. But Rodney had a good outing tonight.

    by David G. on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:00 pm

  166. Good thing we sent Willis down… if Leyland asked him to throw at somebody, he might throw a strike instead.

    by Joel in Seattle on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:00 pm

  167. Sean —-on Guillen—-on his way very slowly toward first base with the Dodger catcher between him and the pitcher…the young pitch(don’t know his name) starts popping off at Guillen for not running to first after he drilled..himmmm then Van Slyke walks Guillen to firs aand talks to him …..Guillen stays cool ….Mags did the rest with his shot

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:01 pm

  168. Thanks for the detail, Sky. So we have some bad blood between the teams. Sweet! As someone mentioned about Sheffield and D, Cabrera last year….

    Could be the start of something BIG.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:02 pm

  169. Sportscenter should show it they love that stuff…
    ya da da..ya..da..da

    by judpma on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:05 pm

  170. judpma

    Thanks. But I thought the bullpens emptied and everything. Sounded like Miggy was ready to pop someoene – or was it just glaring menacingly? Man, I hope there’s a picture somewhere later. Post a link, anyone, if there is. Hockey and baseball, the best of both worlds!

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:07 pm

  171. Yeah, David, I wasn’t saying Rodney isn’t coming up, for he surely is, and I’m looking forward to it.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:08 pm

  172. Funny line about Willis, Joel in Seattle.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:09 pm

  173. Speaking of the HBP games teams play, I can’t see the Tigers asking Bonine to drill someone. Just throw strikes, kid. Miner can hit someone later,

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:13 pm

  174. Gallaraga and Dolsi combine for the first shut out of the season. Two guys who didn’t even start the year on the big league roster!

    For all the tough breaks this team has had this year, Gallaraga has been a minor miracle to offset some of the bad.

    by Ryan in Brooklyn on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:27 pm

  175. judpma – i think ESPN is indeed going to show some of the brouhaha. they just had a teaser of it on the way to commercial.

    UPDATE: yeah they showed it. fun to see gil and pudge with that look in their eye!

    by Ryan in Brooklyn on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:30 pm

  176. “Two guys who didn’t even start the year on the big league roster!”

    Good point, Ryan.

    Speaking of Galarraga, I’m not getting the great fear that his low BAbip is inspiring. So there’s going to be regression to the mean. So he’s going to give up more hits on balls in play over time. Does that necessarily mean he’s going to get rocked?

    Reading over the pitch by pitch play by play for Dolsi, it reads like that of one Todd Jones. Gets behind in the count, makes you nervous, then the batter grounds out or flies out. Maybe Dolsi isn’t the New Sexy, but the New Jonesy. Zumaya can remain the set-up guy.

    Raburn was the hitting machine tonight. Nice.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:36 pm

  177. Unfortunately, they didn’t show Gil’s (I have to jump on the nickname bandwagon) face. He was the first to come storming up the dugout stairs, but he immediately stopped in place after ascending them. He stood calm and collected, and his face was completely expressionless, save for his mouth being slightly open. He was intensely scanning the surroundings with a look of pure observance.

    by Brian P on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:41 pm

  178. Check out tiff’s predictions for this game in the Game 66 thread. Not bad! Psychicness is going around.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 13, 2008 at 11:49 pm

  179. I want everyone to know that I called 6 of 9 batting order positions correctly. Pret-ty good for a dope like me. How did I do it? Well, kids, let me explain.

    With no advance intelligence, I had a hunch Hollimon was due for a start. I also foresaw wanting 3 lefties at the top of the order. I saw the Tigers wanting Rodriguez behind the plate for Bonine’s start, meaning Inge was in. Inge was #8 because I saw a rookie at #9, though I was wrong on that last.

    I blew the positions with hunches. I thought they’d finally put Larish at 1B and give Gil a game to think about HRs and nothing else. I also saw Hollimon in for Polanco, not Renteria. I didn’t see Raburn in there at all, so hats off to Leyland. He might know things I don’t, hard telling. Thames was a surprise, but now I know better. Makes me wonder why he hasn’t gotten more starts against RHP all along.

    A question – why didn’t Galarraga go 9 or at least 8? Did he hit the pitch count wall?

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:01 am

  180. Brian P

    Your testimony contradicts that of earlier witnesses. Now i don’t know who to believe. Did Gil’s intense glare come later? Or did I misunderstand? Was Magglio the Glaring Man?

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:05 am

  181. Is Guillen shouting at the pitcher part of that “fiery latin temper” that Ozzie Guillen once talked about?

    Good win. 6 our of 7. I don’t know what to think.

    P.S. Good call by Tiff on saying Mike Hollimon would get his first RBI against the Dodgers tonight in the last game thread. Impressive.

    by Mike R on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:07 am

  182. Does anyone know what Wade said to Guillen and whether Carlos said anything back? And what’s this about a visit from the trainer earlier in the at bat? Did that upset Wade or the Dodgers somehow?

    I wonder if Wade said something about hemmorhoids.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:07 am

  183. Hey guys – are there any CBA studs out there? Specifically when it comes to arbitration? I’ve got a question for you.

    by Kevin in Austin on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:19 am

  184. Back from the game, my first of the season and I’ve already matched my win total from ’07.

    That was fun – a little of everything. My first thought about the Guillen HBP was that they nailed him because they were cheesed about him getting out of the pickle earlier in the game. A litle too bush league maybe.

    From my seat, I didn’t notice Cabrera at all but Pudge certainly ran out of the dugout in a hurry and loked ready to roll. The bullpens coming out was hilarious. They both kind of nonchalantly sauntered out on the field, clearly not wanting any piece of the action.

    Great all around performnce from the Tigers, outstanding pitching, defense and enough offense to get it done. And of course Raburn delivers after I knocked him a bit yesterday. ice to have a legit win streak going!

    by Tbone on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:24 am

  185. ‘They both kind of nonchalantly sauntered out on the field, clearly not wanting any piece of the action.’

    Ha1 That’s funny. Going through the motions. Yeah, yeah, gotta support the team, whatever.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:28 am

  186. Tiff really went out on the limb and is now a full-fledged member of the DTW psychic network. Really impressive!

    by ron on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:52 am

  187. Sean: Carlos hurt his wrist in swinging at the first pitch from Wade. He stayed out of the box for a while. I only saw the HBP live on tv and didn’t catch a replay (got distracted) so take this for what it’s worth, but I doubt it was intentional — especially with it still being just a 3-0 game (I think). I believe Rod Allen mentioned that Wade basically told him to just go down to first base and Guillen probably took offense to that.

    Kevin in Austin: I’m not a Collective Bargaining expert, but I can try to help/maybe find the answer to whatever your question is, so shoot.

    by Mike R on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:53 am

  188. Yes. Another DVR win. I love it. Let’s keep the wins coming.

    by Brian in Tampa on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:53 am

  189. a) Player A deliberately inflicts physical harm on Player B

    b) Player B hits a Home Run

    c) Somehow certain people see action ‘b’ as payback.

    c) I say ‘huh’?

    How that notion started is peculiar to say the least. Payback is reciprocating, inflicting physical harm on the pitcher. Nothing more cowardly than a Pitcher intentionally throwing at hitters and expecting the hitter to do absolutely nothing but what he’s up there to do anyway(hit the ball).

    They better retaliate this series, or it will be open season on the Tigers when word gets out you can throw at them and they’ll do absolutely nothing in response.

    Having said that, this is good. Glad to see some fire for the Tigs, and in particular, Guillen!

    by greg on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:57 am

  190. Mike R – what’s your email? Or alternatively, feel free to email me at kmvela @ yahoo (no spaces, just in there in case any spambots are scanning the forum). Thanks.

    by Kevin in Austin on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:03 am

  191. I don’t think it was intentional. Like I said, I missed the replay so maybe I’m way off base, but I don’t think Wade is going to throw 4 other pitches after Guillen took forever to get back into the box while the Dodgers were only down 3 at the time. Unintentional HBP = doesn’t need retaliation.

    And what does the word getting out so other teams “throw at” the Tigers do? Just put runners on base for a team who’s got hitters heating up(Miggy)/already on fire (Polanco/Magglio/Guillen).

    by Mike R on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:05 am

  192. mikerogers04 @ gmail.com.

    by Mike R on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:05 am

  193. Mike R – didn’t see the game, but I did just watch the replay of the bottom of the 8th. I really don’t know if it was intentional, but taking a wild guess, I’d say at least 60/40 it was, Guillen had just exited the box with a wrist/hand problem.

    In any event, the way that punk Wade acted afterwards, jawing at Guillen when he should have been either silent or apologetic, at that point he lost all ‘benefit of the doubt’ right there.

    Mike R wrote:

    And what does the word getting out so other teams “throw at” the Tigers do? Just put runners on base for a team who’s got hitters heating up(Miggy)/already on fire (Polanco/Magglio/Guillen).

    unquote.

    That one word ‘just’ makes makes this incorrect. It does a number of things, but most importantly, it also puts you on the DL and/or makes you a less ineffective hitter because you end up playing dinged up/hurt.

    If you don’t believe me, just ask Rickie Weeks, Derek Jeter, or, most recently Alfonso Soriano. Yes, Soriano got on base, but the effects of that HBP go much deeper than that for the Cubbies.

    by greg on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:24 am

  194. It won’t let me edit my post….

    meant to say ‘less effective’

    ….its getting late.

    by greg on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:28 am

  195. Thanks. Mike R.

    Greg, Wade says it wasn’t intentional, which makes sense given the game situation, and Leyland and Guillen agree. As far as payback goes – it’s a fan thing in this case.

    a) Their guy hurts our guy.

    b) Their guy is a BAD guy, and we loathe him.

    c) Our next guy hits a HR.

    d) Payback! We made their bad guy cry and regret hurting our guy.

    It must be extra satisfying, though, to hit a 2-run HR off a guy who just mouthed off (if only by gesture) to your teammate after hitting him with a pitch. That’s not hard to understand.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:33 am

  196. Rapada down to Toledo? But why?

    I’m worried about Galarraga’s ankle.

    I think Carlos gets tomorrow off. Nothing to do with the HBP.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:35 am

  197. Soriano is on the DL because he completely was terrible in his attempt to get out of the way of the baseball. You don’t turn your front side towards 3rd base like he did. He exposed his hands and I am still stunned that major league hitters still get out of the way of the ball by opening up rather than closing their front shoulder and taking it in the back.

    obviously if someone breaks something on an HBP, that’s a terrible situation. But how many times have there been pitchers deliberately throwing, repeatedly, at a team because they didn’t “stand up for themselves?” Rarely. If ever. Save for Roger Clemens going roid-rage on Mike Piazza.

    Not to mention that all of these players are part of the same union and many of them are friends — especially latin players from the same country. Baseball (and all sports) have changed and there’s much more respect for everyone in the game — especially in baseball with their 8000000000 unwritten rules and ‘ethics’. I just think word getting out that the Tigers ‘don’t defend themselves’ wouldn’t spark a plethora of high and tight ones simply because teams can do so without repercussions.

    by Mike R on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:36 am

  198. Good win tonight for the Tigers. I’ll be extremely upset if Dolsi gets sent down when Rodney and Zumaya come back. I say that Bautista should go down, he honestly hasn’t impressed too much. He’s like a Dolsi without the “closer-like stare” and the youth. Also, Rapada or Seay could be pretty easily called down. If I had my way, our new bullpen would be Fossum, Miner, Rapada, Dolsi, Zumaya, Rodney, Jones. That’s assuming JL will go back to carrying 12 pitchers, like he did out of spring training.

    by Ryan on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:40 am

  199. Of course Wade is going to say that. I wouldn’t expect him to say ‘I was trying to drill him’ unless he desires to get suspended.

    Was his intent to actually hit Guillen? Probably not, that’s not what I meant. But he was throwing AT him(probably, as I said, 60-40) in on his hands, expecting him to get out of the way, making him extra uncomfortable that AB given his hand situation. Game situation supports that he was throwing AT him(1-2 count) IMHO.

    As far as the payback, sorry, I just don’t get it. Of course you feel good hitting the HR, but even? Not even close, not even 1% ‘even’.

    by greg on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:44 am

  200. Off with Wade’s head!

    by Mike R on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:51 am

  201. AP account:

    “The ball just slipped,” said Wade. “I wouldn’t throw at a batter when were down by three runs.”

    Wade pointed to first after hitting Guillen, and then “everything broke loose,” Wade said.

    Neither Guillen nor Leyland thought Wade threw at Guillen, but both said things escalated because of Wade’s gestures.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:52 am

  202. I wouldn’t want to put a retaliation beaning on Bonine’s shoulder’s tomorrow, but when someone comes out of the pen, why not? Throw one at the hip.

    Also, your New Sexy (what a bad nickname) threw as many balls as he did strikes tonight. His WHIP sucks (1.41) and he doesn’t strike out many (but, to his credit, he seems to be able to get one when he needs one). I’m all for riding this guy until he isn’t effective any more, but he’s no replacement for Zumaya or Rodney.

    by Eric Cioe on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:54 am

  203. Mike R. wrote:

    Soriano is on the DL because he completely was terrible in his attempt to get out of the way of the baseball.

    unquote

    ooook, so the pitcher throwing at him had nothing to do with that. If you want to believe that, go right ahead.

    Mike R. –

    But how many times have there been pitchers deliberately throwing, repeatedly, at a team because they didn’t “stand up for themselves?” Rarely. If ever.

    unquote

    Pitchers do, repeatedly, ‘throw inside’ more often when there’s no fear of consequence. I’ve lost count of how many times certain pitchers have been criticized because they started ‘throwing inside less’ after someone charged them.

    by greg on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:54 am

  204. LETS GO TIGERS. THE RUN STARTS NOW OR NEVER

    by Dylan on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:56 am

  205. Make of that what you will, Greg.

    I’ll try one more time to make you understand payback. It’s just a possible interpretation from a fan’s viewpoint. Guillen took first because he was hit. He scored on Magglio’s home run. Thus, Wade had additional cause to regret his “mistake” – or his (no quotation marks) mistake. The HBP added an additional run to the HR. Damage to Tigers? Zero. Damage to Dodgers? 2 runs. HBP becomes the equivalent of 4 HBPs. Good return. We feel good, and Guillen is not hurt.

    In any other sense, there is no payback, unless Guillen takes a baseball and throws it at Wade and hits him. But that won’t work, either, as Guillen will ejected, suspended, and fined.

    It sounds like you’re saying that hitting a batter by throwing AT him even when not trying to hurt him is a horrible crime that can’t possibly be avenged. I don’t know. It’s just a pitching strategy that’s part of the game that batters have to be prepared for. I’d say more injuries have been caused by balls that just got away rather than by deliberate aiming to hurt. But I’ve never been a ballplayer, so what do I know?

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 2:07 am

  206. Eric

    ‘he’s no replacement for Zumaya or Rodney.’

    No, but he could be a replacement for Jones.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 2:20 am

  207. Sean wrote:

    It sounds like you’re saying that hitting a batter by throwing AT him even when not trying to hurt him is a horrible crime that can’t possibly be avenged.

    Let’s not exaggerate here, ‘horrible crime’ no, an act that deserves reciprocation? Absolutely. You drill our guy, if I’m CERTAIN it was an accident. Ok. If not, one of your guys gets drilled. Even. In the NL, this should always be the offending pitcher if possible.

    Sean wrote:

    It’s just a pitching strategy that’s part of the game that batters have to be prepared for.

    unquote

    Rule 8.02 – Throwing at the Batter

    Rule 8.02 states as follows:

    (d) The pitcher shall not intentionally pitch at the batter.

    Despite this rule, unfortunately, you are correct that many use it as a strategy. It is a strategy that pitchers use to compensate when they don’t have adequate stuff to get batters out with their stuff alone. Yes, batters have to be prepared for it, just as pitchers have to be prepared for the consequences of their actions.

    by greg on Jun 14, 2008 at 2:26 am

  208. We haven’t lost since since the moon was in phase Waxing Gibbous at 61% illumination. It is now at 84% illumination and will go into the full moon cycle next. This bodes very well for the immediate future of the team, as it is obvious that they play better as the moon light increases. As for the day games and cloudy nights, the psychic fans can handle those.

    by ron on Jun 14, 2008 at 7:36 am

  209. They just look like a different team lately, don’t they?

    by Dave BW on Jun 14, 2008 at 9:27 am

  210. God, you have to empathize with the Rangers’ GM over the gift of Armondo Galarraga to the Tigers. Obviously, nobody knew he was going to be this good. But a team like the Rangers, with awesome offense and awful pitching, could be a wildcard contender with just a bit more good arms.

    by Chris on Jun 14, 2008 at 10:16 am

  211. Greg – OK, I get your point, and find no fault with it.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 11:47 am

  212. I’m glad to see we got a control pitcher going today. Hopefully, we can give him some early run support so he can feel more comfortable out on the mound.

    by ron on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:14 pm

  213. Today’s lineup guess doesn’t even qualify as a guess, it’s so wild. It’s more like a suggestion.

    SS Renteria
    2B Polanco
    1B Cabrera
    RF Ordonez
    LF Thames
    CF Granderson
    C Rodriguez
    DH Larish
    3B Inge

    Maybe I shouldn’t give Carlos Guillen the day off, but I think he’s due for one, and might want to rest that wrist for a day. I don’t even want Larish in there – I want Raburn instead. But would they put up only one LHB against a RHP? Probably not.

    Renteria and Cabrera know Penny and hit him very well, so I want them up early and often. RHB slug well against Penny – the big difference seems to be that he walks a lot more LHB. But what LHB do the Tigers have who walks a lot? Only one. OK, I’ve changed my mind, Carlos has to play.

    SS Renteria
    2B Polanco
    1B Cabrera
    RF Ordonez
    DH Guillen
    LF Thames
    CF Granderson
    C Rodriguez
    3B Inge

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:35 pm

  214. Ron, hopefully our control pitcher will have good control today. You’ve got to figure that the Dodgers are anxious, having gone at least 18 innings without a run now, so maybe Bonine can take advantage of that.

    How is Bonine’s name pronounced, anyway? I mean his last name. I think I can handle the first name.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:42 pm

  215. Bonine is pronounced bow-nine (long O). As Samara already pointed out, it rhymes with bovine, but it always made me think of canine.

    Also, let’s see if this works: Cabrera’s Stare

    by Brian P on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:49 pm

  216. I noticed Brad Penny’s BA against on the first pitch was .400. I didn’t know what to make of that, so I looked at the Tigers starters to get some idea of what “normal” might be.

    Robertson .229, Galarraga .235, Verlander .235, Bobderman .351, Rogers .379.

    So we might see the Tigers swinging away and people complaining about it, at least until the Tigers have some success with it, which I predict will be by the 1st or 2nd inning. Despite recent struggles at the plate until mid or late game.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 12:55 pm

  217. Brian, thanks for the link – it worked. Not quite menacing, but certainly the look of a man contemplating possible action.

    If Eddie is good, we can call him Eddie Canine. If not, then it’s Eddie Bovine. Nothing against cows, but they haven’t shown me they can pitch.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:03 pm

  218. Another game that’s blacked out for me. :-(

    by Carolyn on Jun 14, 2008 at 1:52 pm

  219. Don’t feel bad, Carolyn. They’re all blacked out for me.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 14, 2008 at 2:30 pm

  220. I’m blacked out on extra innings…is it available on mlb tv?

    by Forty on Jun 14, 2008 at 4:04 pm

  221. for the record, I made lots of accurate predictions for the Saturday afternoon affair, I just was away from the computer to note them in writing.

    I hope Hollimon is back in the game Sunday!

    by tiff on Jun 14, 2008 at 11:43 pm

  222. tiff

    “for the record, I made lots of accurate predictions for the Saturday afternoon affair, I just was away from the computer to note them in writing.”

    Good one. I had an elaborate response in mind, but I’ll let it go at this.

    Your Friday prediction was really good, though. No joke.

    by Sean C. in Illinois on Jun 15, 2008 at 12:16 am

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