Game 15: Tigers at Indians

The Natural Lightning BoltPREGAME: The Tigers will look to build on a two game win streak, and relinquish control of first dibs on the waiver wire, as they head into Cleveland. The two teams that are supposed to be at the top of the division are on the bottom looking up.

The Tigers send out rookie Armando Galarraga. Galarraga made one start last year for Texas and he allowed 5 runs on 4 walks and 4 hits in 4.2 innings. But in his two starts at Toledo he was quite impressive with 11 K’s and only 1 walk. Here’s hoping he attacks the strike zone with the big club as well.

While the Tigers send out a replacement starter, the Indians send out C.C. Sabathia. Sabathia hasn’t made it through the 6 inning in his 3 starts this year and he currently sports a 11.57 ERA. I hope he doesn’t find his groove tonight. He has managed to go at least 7 innings in 4 of his last 5 starts against the Tigers.

DET @ CLE, Wednesday, April 16, 2008 Game Preview – Baseball-Reference.com

Programming Note: For those of you with satellite TV service there is some relevant info about where to find the game tonight:

DIRECTV: Ch. 672 (instead of the normal 669)

Dish Network: Game will not be shown due to lack of an available channel. Dish Network returns for Friday’s Tigers-Toronto game (Ch. 452)

Sorry to those of you who have Dish Network. It looks like it will be a night of Dan & Jim and MLB.com
Game Time 7:05

POSTGAME: We’ve seen this before. Pitchers who can’t throw strikes. Hitters rushing through at-bats. A lack of concentration leading to runs on defense. But it’s sooooo much more enjoyable when it’s the others guys doing that stuff.


Saying that there was a lot to like about this game may be one of the big understatements of the day.

Armando Galarraga threw strikes. In the post game interviews Pudge Rodgriguez was asked about Galarraga and the first thing Pudge said was “he threw strikes.” Jim Leyland was asked what he was most impressed about Galarraga’s start and the first thing he said was “he threw strikes.”

It was a tremendous outing, especially for a player with so little big league experience. And while the plethora of runs certainly made it easier for him to stay in the strike zone, he also had to come out and pitch after several lengthy breaks generated by the offense. But he didn’t miss a beat.

And the offense…that’s what I’m talking about.

  • Miguel Cabrera has found his stripes with a 4 hit night and 5 RBI.
  • Renteria had 5 RBI’s of his own jumping on a first pitch fastball and jacking a grand slam.
  • Magglio worked 3 walks and added a hit.
  • Inge getting his first start after a couple days off added 2 hits and 2 walks.
  • Heck, everybody including the subs had a hit except for Pudge.

Yes, there is clearly something wrong with Sabathia, but instead of letting him get right the Tigers pummeled him. Good times. Let’s do it again tomorrow!

141 Comments

  1. Chris in Nashville

    April 16, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    I don’t want to mention the symbol on the last few posts as to not jinx it, but I’m liking where your head is at Bilfer.

  2. Tbone

    April 16, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    Tonight’s lineup, featuring everyone’s favorite leadoff hitter:

    Rodriguez, C
    Polanco, 2B
    Sheffield, DH
    Ordonez, RF
    Cabrera, 3B
    Guillen, 1B
    Renteria, SS
    Thames, LF
    Inge, CF

  3. JOE Z

    April 16, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    GO GET EM TIGERS!

  4. Walt at CMU

    April 16, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Man, I am sick of not having fsn+.

  5. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    Just throw strikes, Armando. If they hit it, they hit it.

  6. Mike in CT

    April 16, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Yeah…but into the seats?

  7. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    ummmm, like that, I guess.

  8. Ken from Cincinnati

    April 16, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    I give the credit on that one to Delucci. It was thrown at the bottom of the zone. Not an awful pitch. BTW, does Pudge have to play third too?

  9. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Oh wow. FANTASTIC sign for Miggy. That was a BOMB out to right field.

    Here’s to hoping he’s got it figured out.

  10. Kevin in Austin

    April 16, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Holy cow did he make that look easy. BTW, Cle TV announcers complaining about “response runs” or runs given up the next half-inning after they score. So I guess we aren’t the only ones who complain about that.

  11. Walt at CMU

    April 16, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Dear Dave Dellucci,
    Anything you can do, I can do better.
    Signed,
    Miguel Cabrera

  12. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    You nailed it, Kevin. He made that look easy. That looked like a batting practice swing and he crushed that thing.

  13. MIGGY

    April 16, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    How you like me now?

  14. Walt at CMU

    April 16, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    Lets go Pudge!

  15. Mike in CT

    April 16, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    Hawk and DJ are the worst, but the Cleveland guys are putting me to sleep. Where’s Harry Doyle when you need him?

  16. Blake

    April 16, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    It’s annoying not having FSN+ but this isn’t such a bad way to follow the game.

  17. yak

    April 16, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    Miggy seems to have worked out whatever was distracting him.

  18. Ken from Cincinnati

    April 16, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    Nice 2nd inning Armando! That was one of the best innings I’ve seen thrown by a starter this year.

  19. Ken from Cincinnati

    April 16, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Polanco! 2 feet from hitting it over the left field fence. Nice rip.

  20. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    I love the ongoing Hawk and DJ references on this board, since they are just so awful. Whenever somebody is listening to the opponents announcers, they seem to say some variation of the following:

    1) Hawk and DJ are the worst, but these guys a really terrible

    2) These other announcers are pretty good. Hawk and DJ are the worst, though.

    Terrific 2nd inning by Galarraga and good start to the 3rd!

  21. Mike in CT

    April 16, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    I like this set up. The Indians seem like they’re the team pressing at the plate. Also, CC has nothing.

  22. Walt at CMU

    April 16, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Miggy seems to have found his groove.

  23. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Two observations:

    1) Carlos Baerga does not shut up

    2) Miggy is fine and on his way to a huge night.

  24. Mike in CT

    April 16, 2008 at 7:48 pm

    Baerga actually added a little, talking about the Pudge/leadership stuff.

  25. Ken from Cincinnati

    April 16, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    Baerga is quite the talker, but he seems like a good guy. Great RBI by Miggy. I feel like a goon for ever doubting his abilities, even if I did keep it to myself.

  26. Walt at CMU

    April 16, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Blake,
    This and MLB.com gameday are a good combination.

    I am moving to Minneapolis this summer so I should get used to this.

  27. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    Great job first time through the lineup, I hope Galarraga can make the adjustments.

  28. Ken from Cincinnati

    April 16, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    Armando with 4 k’s after 3? Did anyone expect this mastery so far? I keep singing the song “Fernando” by ABBA, expect inserting Armando instead.

  29. Mike in CT

    April 16, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Wow….Bob Feller in the booth now for STO. Who’s next, Jake Taylor? Ricky Vaughn? Albert Belle?

  30. Walt at CMU

    April 16, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    Nice BB by Brandon.

  31. Slashpyne

    April 16, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    The Cabrera-Beast has awaken!

  32. Robert in BA

    April 16, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    Blake/ Walt,
    You might want to checkout MLBTV or MLB Audio.
    I’m a lifetime Tigers (and baseball) fan living in Argentina, and couldn’t live w/out it. I watch 200+ games per year. Not bad for $90 U$ ($20 for Audio).
    BTW, I’m watching the Indians feed now. Is it old-time Indian interview night?

  33. Mike R

    April 16, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    Who’s this Miguel Cabrera bum? What a bust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I look forward to watching him for 8 years and maybe more.

  34. Andrew

    April 16, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    I am loving this effort WAY better these last few games. Galarraga is mowing ‘em down. Too bad he gave up the homer in the first, otherwise he would be working on a no-hitter.

    Pitching? Check.

    Hitting? Check.

    Defense? Check.

    Amazing how good a talented team looks when things are clicking.

  35. Brian in Tampa

    April 16, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    First time posting. Down here in Tampa. Followed along late last year. Just decided to start posting this year. Anyways, Glarraga looks good so far. It’s amazing what happens when you throw strikes.

  36. Mike in CT

    April 16, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Jesus, how start did that foul from Sheff go, 600 feet?

  37. Steve in Kzoo

    April 16, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    Whats with our young crappy farm system the baseball critics say about the Tigers. So far Clete has been a nice defensive and offensive addition. Clay Rapada great lefty specialist. and now Galarraga he’s out shinning the entire pitching staff right now with 3Ks, 1 ER, through 4IP that sad. And surely a crappy farm system cant do that now can it. Stupid baseball critics the farm system is alive and will have some B prospects by years end in Galarraga, Sizemore, Porcello, and Iorg.

  38. Andrew

    April 16, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Ooh, looks like some more runs! Heckuva at bat by Sheff drawing a 10 (or 11) pitch walk.

  39. Vince in MN

    April 16, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    Anyone know what the scouting report is on Galarraga?

  40. Andrew

    April 16, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Eat ‘em up Tigers, Eat ‘em up! Lets go Cabrera. Lets blow the lid off this game and save the late inning heroics for another night.

    :)

  41. Mike R

    April 16, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    If he hits one out here, Miggy should get the key to the city.

  42. JOE Z

    April 16, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    BUST THIS THING OPEN, LETS GO TIGERS

  43. Steve in Kzoo

    April 16, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    Bases juiced for Cabrera either way we will get in a run. Possible another RBI for Cabrera, or more depending on how this inning pans out. Just put it in play Miggy!

  44. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    oh boy.

    loaded for Miggy.

    This could be really fun, but I’ll take a fly ball.

    Terrific ABs by Sheff and Maggs, by the way.

  45. Mike R

    April 16, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    That’s half as effective as going yard, I’ll take it.

  46. Tbone

    April 16, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    Miggs is on fire!!

  47. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    Cabrera 5, Indians 1

  48. Mike R

    April 16, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    E-RENT. PEACE CC.

  49. Steve in Kzoo

    April 16, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    Yea miggy how about those Ribs. 2 more RBIs, GO TIGERS AND GO MIGGY!!!!!

  50. Andrew

    April 16, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    YES!!!!

  51. JOE Z

    April 16, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    OH MY!

  52. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    So I guess Renteria will hit the slam, instead.

    Wow. This is impressive.

  53. Steve in Kzoo

    April 16, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    HOLY SMOKES HOT BATS WHICH OUT FOR THOSE HOT BATS!!! THE RENT MAN FIRES THAT BASEBALL OUT OF HERE GS BABY!!! 9-1 TIGS!!!

  54. Dylan

    April 16, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    Wow. The Tigers are way better when I don’t watch the game and just follow online… Haha.

  55. Tbone

    April 16, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    This is the big lead I was hoping for, why don’t I still feel comfortable?

  56. Ryan in Brooklyn

    April 16, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    I think this is more in line with what we were all expecting out of ’08. Feels good, don’t it?

  57. Brian in Tampa

    April 16, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    C C Ya Later!! This is sweet. That comeback 2 days ago was a great jumpstart. Let’s keep it going.

  58. Vince in MN

    April 16, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    The offseason additions to the lineup are lookng pretty good right now.

  59. Joey C.

    April 16, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    Wow. Sabathia. This should be a pretty huge confidence boost. And I’m loving that Cabrera is having a huge game.

  60. Joe in Holland

    April 16, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    Why is it this team catches fire when everyone in the “national media” starts to write them off? Happened in ’06 too.

  61. Steve in Kzoo

    April 16, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    CC Sabathia 4IP thats amazing with 9ER, 1K, 5 BB, and 8 hits. WOW just wow, this is the guy who won the Cy Young last year no way. CC we will CC ya later. Keep it going Tigers.

  62. Steve in Kzoo

    April 16, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    Someone pinch me!!! no one out runners 2nd and 3rd, 9-1 lead with Pudge up wow just wow. The bats and the Tigers have come alive!!!!

  63. Steve in OH

    April 16, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    Maybe we can get some karmic redemption and hit another slam before this thing’s over. Perhaps it can be Miggy? :)

  64. Walt at CMU

    April 16, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    This is what I wanted to see as I get home from an errand!

  65. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    The hitters are doing a great job foucling off close pitches, spoiling some really tough ones, laying off the bad pitches and punishing mistakes.

    These guys aren’t professional hitters. They’re mercenaries.

  66. Mike in CT

    April 16, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Ok…didn’t want to post anything until they made an out.

  67. Mike R

    April 16, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    What else is new, Ivan Rodriguez is allergic to hitting. Color me surprised.

  68. Steve in OH

    April 16, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    Ok maybe it can be Sheff… that would also be a nice wake up.

  69. Steve in Kzoo

    April 16, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    Polly polly polly polly!!!! Wow just this is a mercy killing right now!!! I think we should stop save some for tomorrow!!

  70. Mike in CT

    April 16, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    What an inning!

  71. Steve in OH

    April 16, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Mmmmmmmm, runs!

  72. Ken from Cincinnati

    April 16, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Unbelievable plate discipline tonight. Worked counts, worked walks, smashed the stitches.

  73. Steve in Kzoo

    April 16, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    well im outta here for a little while. Hopefully we keep the heat up!!! Go Tigers!!!!

  74. Walt at CMU

    April 16, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Robert

    I may be too old, but I cannot justifiy spending money to watch/listen to the Tigs while sitting in central MI. That is unless you count the cost of beer at a sports bar.

    Its about time someone that isn’t miggy or E rent gets an rbi. Way to go PP.

  75. Tbone

    April 16, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    That should be good enough for a win!

    This looks like the best outing from one of our starters all season.

  76. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Think we can get a 2-for-1 special on Galarraga jerseys?

    Some of this is a bad approach by the Indians, but the kid is throwing strikes. Gotta give him credit.

  77. Steve in OH

    April 16, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Fitting that it’s by someone not projected to be on the team. That said, he’s working this game beautifully right now and I want to see this continue!

    Gotta love the bats finally coming out of hibernation.

  78. Dave BW

    April 16, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Armando Galarraga… this year is just weird :)

  79. charlie

    April 16, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    well this is sure a lot more fun to watch…nice to see the bats coming alive…even better watching this guy pitch…boy if he can keep it going…

  80. Brian P

    April 16, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Granted, Cleveland is struggling offensively. But much to my chagrin, Galarraga does indeed look good. The question then becomes: If Willis makes a re-hab start and continues to show horrible command, does Galarraga stay in the rotation? It almost seems like a no-brainer, but we’ll have to wait and see.

  81. Bix in Boise

    April 16, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    Holy crap! Sorry I’m late to the party tonight…but woot!!! Armando is DEALING! Let’s just throw him in the 5 spot and let him do this all year long! (Ok, that’s totally unrealistic, but I’m feeling it today.)

    On a different note, I sat CC in my fantasy league tonight, as I knew our offense is fully awake. Boy am I glad I did.

  82. Walt at CMU

    April 16, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    Was that third pitch to miggy as bad as i looked on pitch fx?

  83. Brian P

    April 16, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    I’m following gameday as well as watching on FSN. He struck out on the fourth pitch, not the way-outside third.

  84. Walt at CMU

    April 16, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    They had thatpitch down as a called strike at first.

  85. Steve in OH

    April 16, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Pudge: 8 LOB

    (Just gotta point out something negative tonight)

  86. Mark in Chicago

    April 16, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    And that, kids, is our second quality start of the year. Unbelievable job by Galarraga.

    I’m taking off, everyone have a great nite. Let’s do this again tomorrow!

  87. cib

    April 16, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    We deserve this, gang. I’ve been lying on my couch with the game on, laughing for the first time this season! Okay, back to my beer. I’m in love with Armando G.

  88. Dave BW

    April 16, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    Honestly, it’s awfully nice to see another team have everything go wrong for a change.

  89. Dave BW

    April 16, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    And how awesome is it that our first blowout is against the hated Indians?

  90. Bix in Boise

    April 16, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    I’m with cjb. Huge mancrush on Armando right now. I’m personalizing “GALARRAGA” 58 jerseys on mlb.com right now…if only we knew he’d stick on the roster, I’d be buying.

  91. tiff

    April 16, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    I’m so mad at FSN+! I can only hope they replay the game at 11pm on regular FSN. Sounds like a blast to watch. Back to Dan and Jim…

  92. Brian P

    April 16, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    No! That headache-inducing drum again. How does that not annoy everyone, including the fans?

  93. Bix in Boise

    April 16, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    It’s 11-1, and Grilli is warming in the pen…I’m almost ok with it, too.

  94. Bix in Boise

    April 16, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Standing O here in Boise for Armando. Nice work, son.

  95. Dave BW

    April 16, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Now THIS is a good time to use Grilli

  96. tiff

    April 16, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Galarraga slogan: More K’s than R’s.

  97. Dave BW

    April 16, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Grilli’s having trouble coping with the pressure of pitching with an 11-1 lead

  98. billfer

    April 16, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Both of these inherited runners are going to score aren’t they?

  99. Brian P

    April 16, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Grilli wouldn’t have it any other way. Yet somehow, we DFA’d Beltran instead.

  100. Bix in Boise

    April 16, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    I dunno billfer…you feel like betting on that? :)

  101. Pat in Carolina

    April 16, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Another Grilli run that won’t go on his ERA. Poor Armando

  102. Steve

    April 16, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Lets not spoil a great night Grilli…

  103. Steve in OH

    April 16, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    In comes Grilli, in come runs.

  104. Bix in Boise

    April 16, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    Pudge pops up after one of Grilli’s pitches and gives him a “Hey nice, man! That’s the first good pitch I’ve seen you throw!” sort of gesture.

  105. Dave BW

    April 16, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Woooo, Jorge Julio! Yet another ex-Marlin!

  106. billfer

    April 16, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    Raburn’s perfect season continues…

  107. Steve

    April 16, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    Sweet 12 spins ………. a very nice effort tonight

  108. Bix in Boise

    April 16, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Raburn’s OPS is 2.5…

  109. Bix in Boise

    April 16, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    It’s actually hard to intentionally leave 10 men on base by yourself…maybe he’s trying to set a record?

    EDIT: I looked it up. The AL record is 11 for one player in a game.

    http://www.baseball-almanac.co.....ords.shtml

    Second EDIT: apparently the 25 we’ve left on base is already a MLB record…by *5*.

  110. Mike R

    April 16, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    Just going to throw this out there since it’s easy to let things slide when the team is on fire at the plate but, once again, Jim Leyland completely mishandling the lineup with Ivan Rodriguez leading off. What part of his game makes anyone think that’d he’d be a good leadoff hitter versus LHP?

    I don’t want much but it’s just simple things that Leyland does that are so irritating. Absolutely stupid.

  111. Chris in Nashville

    April 16, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    Ahh man….got home from softball and see this….I think someone said that Miggy was about to get hot last night..I can’t remember who :)

  112. Kathy

    April 16, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Pudge has had a pretty hot bat lately plus he can run the bases so why not start him first. It’s not always logical what Leland does but most of the time it works. Sometimes he’ll put guys up there just to get them goin.

  113. Mike R

    April 16, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    The Detroit Tigers the last 3 games (Ivan’s numbers removed):

    Tigers: 35/94 (.372), 12 bb, 10 k, 38 LOB

    Ivan Rodriguez by himself:

    Ivan Rodriguez: 2/12, (.167), 1 bb, 1 k, 15 LOB

  114. Dave BW

    April 16, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Pudge has a .362 career OBP against lefties, so I imagine that’s the reasoning. Of course, Leyland isn’t taking into account that Pudge is well into the decline phase of his career — his .308 OBP against lefties last year is probably a whole lot more relevant right now than the career numbers.

  115. Kathy

    April 16, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Well, you sure were ready with that. So what, everybody behind him hit plenty.

  116. Steve

    April 16, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Although this is really nice scoring a lot of runs, I would like to have seen this against the White sox with the White sox announcers eating a little crow. The Cleveland crew is pretty decent.

    Steve

  117. JML

    April 16, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Dave BW: It’s especially nice to see that team be Cleveland. ;-)

  118. Bix in Boise

    April 16, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    Focus on the idea that Grandy is headed for a rehab assignment on Friday, guys :)

  119. Steve

    April 16, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Hopefully Grilli doesnt turn this into a “save” opportunity

  120. Dave BW

    April 16, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Yes, we all would have preferred this to be against the White Sox, Steve, but Cleveland’s a good substitute. :)

  121. Mike R

    April 16, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Kathy my post wasn’t a retort to what you posted, I was working on that right after I posted my comment about Pudge hitting leadoff, so I wasn’t waiting for a response to pounce with that … it was just something I looked up in between my last two posts.

  122. Steve

    April 16, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    I am looking forward to what Verlander will do on Thursday. He needs a good outing

  123. Kathy

    April 16, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    I didn’t take it as a retort, Mike. But I do wonder why Leland still goes with Grilli. And yes, Grandy will be back very soon. Sure wish Raburn could stay! What a week!!!!

  124. Ben in Denver

    April 16, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    All right, that was fun! Here’s to firing on all cylinders, not being alone in last place, and Verlander feeling good tomorrow.

  125. Ben

    April 16, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    I think that the apparent LOB record is caused by double- or triple-counting some runners. That is, if Pudge and Polanco leave the same runner on, you’re counting it twice. But, the record Bix posted is for actual runners, counted once each. I think that’s what’s up.

  126. Erik in DC

    April 16, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    Bix, thanks for pointing out the Tigers are now the proud owners of a MLB Record:

    29 runners left on base – Detroit Tigers – April 16 2008

    That shatters the record set by the Yankees way back in 1956 (20 LOB vs. Boston).

    On a night when we hit a grand slam and won by 11 runs, that is one amazing statistic.

    EDIT: Unless Ben’s right and we need to stop counting runners more than once. Even if we don’t get the record, we left a lot of guys on base and still managed to get plenty of offense. I like it.

  127. billfer

    April 16, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Mike -

    I can’t rally argue with you too much, but he has hit the ball pretty well the last 3 games. He had 4 well hit balls on Monday, and a line drive to third today. He’s hit a little better than the stat line shows.

    But yeah, he shouldn’t be leading off.

  128. billfer

    April 16, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    Erik – you’re comparing apples to oranges. The Tigers team LOB was 13, well below the record.

    And get used to a lot of LOB. Good offenses put a lot of runners on, and a lot will get stranded.

  129. Erik in DC

    April 16, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    Yeah — sorry, I got the erroneous 29 LOB number by looking in the wrong place on the box score. I’d blame Bix, except I’m the guy who put it in boldface type.

    And I agree with you, Billfer, I’ve got no problems with a big LOB — this is a lot better than the “efficient” 3 LOB and 0 R games we were looking at just last week.

    I say keep Pudge in the leadoff spot and let him go 0fer6 every night if these are the results we can expect.

  130. Slashpyne

    April 17, 2008 at 12:01 am

    Bix in Boise, Glad to see there is another Tigers fan in Idaho-I live near Coeur d’Alene (originally from Northern Michigan).

  131. charlie

    April 17, 2008 at 1:05 am

    hey slashpyne

    i used to spend my summers in coeur D’alene when i was a kid…love the area. i’m just north in canada…a little north of calgary.

    cheers

  132. Ken from Cincinnati

    April 17, 2008 at 1:20 am

    Yeah, I was gonna say…..we left over three runners on base every inning? Isn’t that impossible? 13 is still shocking considering the amount of runs we scored.

  133. Mike R

    April 17, 2008 at 1:28 am

    I didn’t take it as a retort, Mike. But I do wonder why Leland still goes with Grilli. And yes, Grandy will be back very soon. Sure wish Raburn could stay! What a week!!!!

    Amen to all that, Kathy!

    Mike -

    I can’t rally argue with you too much, but he has hit the ball pretty well the last 3 games. He had 4 well hit balls on Monday, and a line drive to third today. He’s hit a little better than the stat line shows.

    But yeah, he shouldn’t be leading off.

    Yeah, definitely. It’s just one of the many confusing parts of his managing. Comes with the territory. If we put up 3 game stretches like this one though, I don’t care who bats leadoff.

  134. Kevin in Austin

    April 17, 2008 at 9:41 am

    Galarraga threw first pitch strikes to 17/24 batters (71%) he faced. I can’t say enough about his game plan and ability to throw strikes.

    Grilli went 3-0 on the first two batters he faced (of course starting with a single and thus allowing ANOTHER inherited runner), and threw first pitch strikes to 4/10 batters (40%). His presence in the big leagues is the 8th wonder of the world.

    6-10 would be heaven, wouldn’t it? Kathy – I even watched Sportscenter last night.

  135. Chris in Dallas

    April 17, 2008 at 10:13 am

    Oh give Grilli a break, Kev. Remember his last time out he went 3 very strong innings in the win against the White Sox. Anyway, P-Rod goes 0-for-6 and leaves 10 men on base. The 8th wonder of the world is why JL thinks he’s a capable leadoff hitter…

  136. Kevin in Austin

    April 17, 2008 at 10:32 am

    I’m with you on Pudge too. Though Grilli has scarred me so deep that 9 innings of no hit relief would do little to remedy the harm.

  137. T Smith

    April 17, 2008 at 11:25 am

    In attempt to jump on the bankwagon, Pudge may have been pressing a little bit last night. Who doesn’t want 4 instant RBI on their resume when the score is 9-1, 11-2, 13-2, etc? 0-6 with 10 men LOB is frustrating, agreed — but I for one can condone it.

    I’m still very happy with his HR/Triple from a couple nights ago which was clutch — or rather, THE factor which coverted loss number 11 into win number 3, and arguably, sparked this three game winning streak and (hopefully–knock on wood) marked the end to a miserable stretch. Pudge may not have maunfactured any quality at bats since, but, in my eyes, he certainly has manufactured a good deal amount of length to his leash on account of that April 14 HR/Triple.

  138. Sky

    April 17, 2008 at 11:54 am

    Has anyone even noticed how different this team plays in better weather? Has anyone noticed the beginning of this season looked a lot like the 06 W. Series? Both the play and the weather!

  139. tiff

    April 17, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    I have no problem with Grilli – as long as he pitches in away games. Whatever has happened in Comerica (fans getting to him, overthinking pitches) it’s just not a good combination.

  140. T Smith

    April 17, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    I have no problem with Grilli pitching with a 10 run lead, or a 10 run deficit. Someone’s gotta eat up those innings.

    I’m a little reluctant to back Grilli in almost any other situation. It’s generally not a good idea to put a pitcher on the mound who can’t find the strike zone in a one or two run game. Regardless of how good his stuff is when he does find the strike zone.

    40% for first-pitch strikes is atrocious. Anybody have the overall percent he thru for strikes last night?

  141. Kevin in Austin

    April 17, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    Grilli was at 59% strikes last night, Galarraga was at 69%. I’ll try to keep track of these #’s moving forward. Grilli’s BB/9 ratio is currently over 2X his career average, which isn’t that great to begin with.

    And though it’s impossible to know w/o reviewing every pitch, my guess is that he’s getting behind early and often, and thus grooving pitches.