Game 100: Tigers at White Sox

PREGAME: Kenny Rogers and Jose Contreras. Here’s hoping for better than yesterday.

UPDATE: Sheffield is out with a sore shoulder, and he may miss tomorrow also.

Game Time 8:11pm

DET @ CHW, Wednesday, July 25, 2007 Game Preview – Baseball-Reference.com

POSTGAME: Great bounce back win. Going to bed real quick here but first:

  • Kenny was awful. Even as the team kept coming back the ball kept leaving the yard.
  • Ryan Raburn drove in as many as Kenny let in. So he was anti-awful.
  • Great outing for Byrdak as well with 2 perfect innings.
  • Bullpen picked up 15 outs and only allowed 2 runs. Nice job.
  • That was a lot of offense with 1/3 of the regular lineup out.

128 Comments

  1. JML

    July 25, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    Oh Kenny, please be good tonight

  2. JML

    July 25, 2007 at 8:29 pm

    Deja Vu. Dammit.

  3. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 8:29 pm

    wow. two outs. walk. single. Homerun.

    Awesome. What happened to our starters recently?

  4. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 8:29 pm

    Awwwwwwww hell.

  5. Kyle J

    July 25, 2007 at 8:30 pm

    Rats. That strike two call really backfired.

    And our lineup doesn’t look like it’s built for big comebacks. Kenny better shut ‘em down from here on out.

  6. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 8:34 pm

    Ooo Guillen with the bunt. Nice

  7. Matt in ATL

    July 25, 2007 at 8:45 pm

    I think this is the best roster top to bottom in baseball. Our main issue has been control in our starting pitching ( too many walks, wild pitches, hit batters). As o f late there is not a dominating starter on the roster. Our $%^&pen is a joke. Please make a move in the next few days. this is a great chance to win but this roster will not bring a championship.

  8. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    Kenny is not himself right now. Let’s hope he finds his rhythm soon.

  9. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 9:06 pm

    Just sit fastball Monroe. Sink or swim here.

  10. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 9:08 pm

    Well, so much for the fastball…I’ll take the heat on that one.

  11. Eric Jackson

    July 25, 2007 at 9:16 pm

    Hello Kenny,

    Please let us remain in the game. Thank you.

  12. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 9:17 pm

    Man, 5 runs scored with 2 outs. That stings the nostrils.

  13. Mark in Chicago

    July 25, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    I hate the White Sox. And listening to Hawk and DJ isn’t helping either…

  14. Mark in Chicago

    July 25, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    I am liking Ryan Rayburn, tho….. wow

  15. Kathy

    July 25, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Praise the Lord for the Mudhens!

  16. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Raburn v. Fields

  17. JML

    July 25, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    Y’know, I’ve been meaning to head down and see the Mudhens play sometime…

  18. Mark

    July 25, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    Hey, has Hawk mentioned whether or not Joe Crede will be considered for MVP yet this season?

  19. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 9:35 pm

    There is no one who drives me crazier than Uribe.

  20. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 9:35 pm

    What’s wrong with Rogers? Man oh man.

    This is ridiculous

  21. Brian

    July 25, 2007 at 9:38 pm

    Where is the pitching in this series?

    I mute Hawk.

  22. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    This is a joke now

  23. Chris M

    July 25, 2007 at 9:40 pm

    Raburn v. Fields ?

  24. JML

    July 25, 2007 at 9:40 pm

    Geez, its a darn Home Run Derby

  25. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 9:40 pm

    huh?

  26. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 9:41 pm

    Someone get Kenny some pine tar

  27. billfer

    July 25, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    Can we agree that whatever happens tonight, it’s not the bullpen’s fault?

  28. Brian

    July 25, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    That homerun was brought to you courtesy of Andy Gonzalez. A. Gonzalez entered tonight’s game hitting a mighty .225 with an impressive .303 slugging percentage!

  29. Adam

    July 25, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    This game blows.

  30. Matt in ATL

    July 25, 2007 at 9:45 pm

    I dont know what is scarier pulling him or letting him stay on. Last nights meltdown KILLED hurt. It put too much pressure on the starters.

  31. Ben in Denver

    July 25, 2007 at 9:48 pm

    I can’t agree to that yet.

  32. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    whoaaaaa bilfer dont say that. this game is to young to say that sir

  33. T Smith

    July 25, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    I really don’t enjoy watching Monroe bat.

  34. Adam

    July 25, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    White Sox have singles and home runs. And that’s it.

  35. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 9:59 pm

    tell them to quit toying with my emotions!!

  36. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 10:00 pm

    I feel like I’m playing Baseball Stars on NES

  37. Dave V

    July 25, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    23-22 final? I love it, leyland can yell at, and hate rabelo more! go curtis!!!!

  38. T Smith

    July 25, 2007 at 10:03 pm

    I really DO enjoy watching Raburn bat.

  39. Adam

    July 25, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    So many runs…such bad pitching…

  40. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    Raburn > Monroe

  41. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    Baseball Stars rules.

  42. Dave V

    July 25, 2007 at 10:05 pm

    So do I Smitty. Could we be looking at the new leftfielder???

  43. Kathy

    July 25, 2007 at 10:05 pm

    Now, let’s not get too cocky! It’s only the 5th inning.

  44. billfer

    July 25, 2007 at 10:06 pm

    Raburn homers twice and doubles. Monroe strikes out twice. Who plays left tomorrow?

  45. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 10:09 pm

    Grilli time BABY!

  46. T Smith

    July 25, 2007 at 10:09 pm

    Okay Billfer,

    We’re gonna test your theory.

  47. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 10:10 pm

    If we lose now I blame Bilfer.

  48. JML

    July 25, 2007 at 10:10 pm

    Oh. Grilli. Great…

  49. Kyle J

    July 25, 2007 at 10:12 pm

    Who was the genius who said this lineup couldn’t mount a comeback?

  50. Kyle J

    July 25, 2007 at 10:13 pm

    Another one-run pitchers’ duel in Cleveland. Sadly, the Indians came out on top in this one. Carmona over Beckett.

  51. billfer

    July 25, 2007 at 10:13 pm

    yeah, i might want to rescind my earlier statement. i will temper expectations that the pen will be asked to get 15 outs so i’m not expecting a scoreless effort.

  52. T Smith

    July 25, 2007 at 10:13 pm

    Raburn in left tomorrow? I certainly hope so. Gosh, I’ve been screaming the same thing at the TV (usually in frustration) way back when Raburn was a Mud Hen.

  53. Adam

    July 25, 2007 at 10:14 pm

    Kyle J: Ozzie Guillen

  54. Dave V

    July 25, 2007 at 10:17 pm

    You may see him more than tomorrow.

  55. Kathy

    July 25, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    Hessman can play the OF also. Don’t forget about him.

  56. billfer

    July 25, 2007 at 10:22 pm

    At the rate this game is going we’re going to have a night-day doubleheader

  57. Dave V

    July 25, 2007 at 10:25 pm

    I think raburn will take precedent due to developement

  58. Tbone

    July 25, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    Late to the game tonight. Never a good sign when I turn on the tube and see Grilli pitching in the 5th. But it looks like the Hens are providing some more punch again!

  59. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 10:35 pm

    Pull Grilli now.

  60. JML

    July 25, 2007 at 10:36 pm

    Pull Grilli forever.

  61. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 10:36 pm

    Even the Sox announcers are complaining about the calls.

  62. Tbone

    July 25, 2007 at 10:37 pm

    Byrdak up in the pen. Didn’t he give up something like 40 runs in 1.3 innings in his rehab?

  63. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 10:38 pm

    Bilfer. Bilfer! where are ya! I’m going to get ya!

    And still no outs for Grilli

  64. Dave V

    July 25, 2007 at 10:38 pm

    WHEN WHEN WHEN will they let him go???

  65. billfer

    July 25, 2007 at 10:38 pm

    What is Leyland waiting for. No way Grilli should pitch to Thome

  66. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 10:39 pm

    Guillen…again…wow. I’m almost as worried about him costing us a game defensively as I am the pen…

  67. Tbone

    July 25, 2007 at 10:40 pm

    Rod says Leyland leaving him in to pitch to Konerko and Dye. That sounds pretty brilliant…

  68. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    Tbone: He had two outtings in rehab

    in .1 ip he gave up four hits and three runs in his first one
    But his second was 2ip 1hit 0er 0bb 4k

  69. billfer

    July 25, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    Kevin – what did Guillen do?

  70. Dave V

    July 25, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    Grilli is Sooooo lucky!!!! that was a home run up and over the heart of the plate

  71. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 10:43 pm

    a break! yes!

  72. JML

    July 25, 2007 at 10:44 pm

    Tennis, anyone?

  73. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 10:45 pm

    Should I be pissed he gave up 2?
    or
    Should I be happy he only gave up 2?

  74. Tbone

    July 25, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    Everytime I question Leyland I get proven wrong, thank God. Brilliant move leaving Grilli in!

  75. Tbone

    July 25, 2007 at 10:47 pm

    billfer – Guillen misplayed the relay on Iguchi’s double. It appeared as if he may have had a play at the plate.

  76. T Smith

    July 25, 2007 at 10:50 pm

    I say 14 runs wins this game.

  77. Nate

    July 25, 2007 at 10:50 pm

    That was Infante who misplayed the relay, IIRC.

  78. billfer

    July 25, 2007 at 10:52 pm

    Nate’s right. Guillen was backing up the play. He didn’t get the ball until it kicked off of Infante’s foot.

  79. ron

    July 25, 2007 at 10:53 pm

    Rabelo, Rabelo

  80. T Smith

    July 25, 2007 at 11:04 pm

    Dave V & all the anti-Grilli contingent:

    One good thing about letting Grilli pitch here is he likely will not be available for the Angel’s series.

    (That was some pretty pathetic premature celebrating by Uribe for knocking a long out to Grandy).

  81. billfer

    July 25, 2007 at 11:05 pm

    3 innings and 2 runs from Grilli. He bridged the gap and protected the lead. Not a great effort, but not terrible either.

  82. Tbone

    July 25, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    Uribe was jumping out of his socks like he hit a walk-off.

  83. Stephen

    July 25, 2007 at 11:08 pm

    i’d say grilli’s 3 innings that work out to a 6.00 ERA is terrible.

  84. Dave V

    July 25, 2007 at 11:09 pm

    Well he’s not a stopper, and he’s not a closer, and he usually gives up hits and runs in mid relief so what is he when we are healthy…………….expendable!!!!

  85. Tbone

    July 25, 2007 at 11:12 pm

    I missed the first half of this game. Was Kenny as bad as the line score suggests?

  86. Dave V

    July 25, 2007 at 11:17 pm

    fraid so

  87. Mark in Chicago

    July 25, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    I actually feel better now that Byrdak is in the game. It may just have to do with the fact that he’s not Grilli, but i DO feel better about things.

    What I’m not looking forward to is Jones in the 9th (if we get that far).

  88. Tbone

    July 25, 2007 at 11:20 pm

    Nice solid inning from Byrdak. We needed one of those desperately.

  89. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 11:24 pm

    oooo the knuckleballer

  90. Nate

    July 25, 2007 at 11:27 pm

    Nice play by Fields. Robbed Brandon of a RBI double. Not that it matters, as Infante got the job done.

  91. Kyle J

    July 25, 2007 at 11:27 pm

    And I was just going to complain that Leyland didn’t put Polanco in to make sure we got the run in from 3rd . . .

  92. Kevin in Austin

    July 25, 2007 at 11:28 pm

    Granderson is due for a triple

  93. Mark in Chicago

    July 25, 2007 at 11:29 pm

    Did that ball go THROUGH Granderson?

  94. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 11:29 pm

    i LOVE knucklers. They are so much fun to watch

  95. billfer

    July 25, 2007 at 11:31 pm

    That was an obscenely bad call

  96. Kyle J

    July 25, 2007 at 11:32 pm

    Terrible call.

    Seems like sending the runner from third on contact never works.

    Never mind. Raburn is the man.

  97. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 11:32 pm

    THANK YOU! Raburn for MVP!

  98. Eric Jackson

    July 25, 2007 at 11:32 pm

    You almost never see Granderson ever question an umpire. Was odd seeing him question him :)

  99. Mark in Chicago

    July 25, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    Agree, Jim. Knucklers are a blast, if only because they are so rare. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going down to US Cellular Field to hug and personally thank Ryan Rayburn.

    I may even get him a “date”, if he’s into that sort of thing.

  100. Nate

    July 25, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    The White Sox feed didn’t have an angle where you could clearly see it hit him. Did FSD have a better view?

  101. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    For real Eric. I wonder if he ever will blow up at an ump in his career?

    Related, has anyone ever seen Casey get into it with an ump before?

  102. Chris in Nashville

    July 25, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    MAN…Raburn is on fire tonight….7 steaks, got to love it. What about Granderson scoring from first on a SINGLE, I never thought I’d see that. Curtis is just an unreal player, he really doesn’t get the credit he deserves.

  103. T Smith

    July 25, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    Did I say I enjoyed watching Raburn bat?

  104. Kyle J

    July 25, 2007 at 11:34 pm

    Granderson scores from first on a single. And it wasn’t even close.

    We’re going to enjoy watching him play for a long time . . .

  105. billfer

    July 25, 2007 at 11:34 pm

    Whether or not it hit him didn’t make a difference. It came no where near his bat and it was ball 4.

  106. Kathy

    July 25, 2007 at 11:34 pm

    We’ll probably see Grandy lose his temper eventually with so much at stake. He’s a great person and player but no ones perfect. Terrible call.

  107. Kyle J

    July 25, 2007 at 11:36 pm

    Nate, it clearly didn’t hit him, didn’t hit his bat. It was ball four.

  108. Kathy

    July 25, 2007 at 11:38 pm

    Grandy is like watching a star in the making. He’s already one of the top CF ‘s in the game and so many people got down on him last year. I think he’ll be a Tiger for many, many years.

  109. Jim

    July 25, 2007 at 11:39 pm

    AWESOME

  110. ron

    July 25, 2007 at 11:40 pm

    Grilli wins another one.

  111. Stephen

    July 25, 2007 at 11:41 pm

    Over at ESPN scoreboard, they highlight the top hitters and Raburn’s reads ‘No photo available.’

  112. T Smith

    July 25, 2007 at 11:44 pm

    I’m gonna play a little game. I’m going to create my own reality here. I’m going to pretend the Sox won this little see-saw battle tonight (which would have been a bad break, but certainly not devesating), and that the Tigers actually won last night. Same result – series tied going into the rubber game tomorrow.

    Somehow I feel soooo much better about the outcome in the world according to my own delusions.

  113. ron

    July 25, 2007 at 11:46 pm

    Kathy, I think Grandy will be a Senator from Michigan some day. Reminds me of Kaline.

  114. Cameron in Singapore

    July 25, 2007 at 11:46 pm

    Winning is better than losing.

  115. Tbone

    July 25, 2007 at 11:47 pm

    Raburn and Hessman are playing like they want to stay around a while. Great win tonight – go Verlander!

  116. Kurt

    July 25, 2007 at 11:50 pm

    Every game Raburn gets in, he impresses me. With Thames hurt, I’d really like to see him start in left more often.

  117. JML

    July 25, 2007 at 11:52 pm

    My stupid DVR unit decided to flake and I missed the 9th. Insert series of curse words.

  118. Kathy

    July 26, 2007 at 12:03 am

    Ron, I wouldn’t be surprised at anything Grandy puts his mind to. He’s just a total goal setter and never let’s up on himself as far as doing better and improving his game. Look how his average has gone up. Hel’ll probably earn some golden gloves and silver slugger awards along the way, too.

  119. Stephen

    July 26, 2007 at 12:33 am

    Granderson would have to be a Republican because he certainly doesn’t like the left. (.188 this year, .231 career) He’s a nifty little player, fantastic to watch, and a good guy, but let’s get him hitting .250 against lefties before we send him to either Capitol Hill or Cooperstown.

  120. Dirk

    July 26, 2007 at 3:15 am

    Greetings from Germany

    Man, what an important Comebacker. I was very frustrated the first 5 Innings. Seemed like the same as with the Royals series, everytime we score the “others” do the same in the other half-inning plus an awful 1st Inning (and the others weren’t a lot better from Kenny this time. But even he can have a bad start too, from time to time)

    Great game from Raburn and good to see that Tim Byrdak has a good one too. His first save… and Grilli gets the win (*cough*)

    Today’s game (with “europe-friendly” gamestart ;) ) sees JV vs Danks, and hopefully the series win.

  121. Dirk

    July 26, 2007 at 3:18 am

    correction: “very frustrated the first 4 Innings..” ;)

    Everywhere you read, the White Sox have the Tigers “number”. So, this time, they couldn’t remember ;)

  122. Ken in Cincinnati

    July 26, 2007 at 8:09 am

    I definitely like Rayburn in left field over Monroe at this point, and possibly even Thames when he returns. At the very least, we’ll have a great platooning corps to keep our players fresh and add to our pinch hitting options. Regardless of how Jim spreads playing time, it appears we’ve just added some firepower and depth to our bench. Or will we have to send an outfielder down when Thames comes off the DH? Couldn’t we just send Hessman down?

  123. tiff

    July 26, 2007 at 9:39 am

    So seriously, when will they cut Ne!f!??

  124. Chris in Nashville

    July 26, 2007 at 11:03 am

    Raburn had a great game last night….but that doesn’t mean he’s ready to be an everyday player in the league…let’s slow down on that talk.

  125. Eric Jackson

    July 26, 2007 at 11:17 am

    Ya, Chris is right. Brent Clevlen is a good example. He came up and was hot last year, now he’s batting .222 in Toledo.

    They should certainly play him while he’s doing well but he’s not a dependable long-term strategy.

  126. Kyle J

    July 26, 2007 at 11:41 am

    Raburn’s definitely got the potential to be a long-term option as a fourth outfielder, though. He’s versatile. Only 26. Career minor league slugging % near .500.

    http://www.thebaseballcube.com.....burn.shtml

  127. Chris in Nashville

    July 26, 2007 at 1:01 pm

    I agree with that statement, he would be a great 4th OF on a team like this, he seems to versatile and can rake, but can he make adjustments at this level when they start figuring out how to pitch to him? That is the biggest question for any young hitter really.

  128. T Smith

    July 26, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    Wow. I can hardly stand to watch past the 7th inning. It’s no longer even enjoyable. We literally have a WS-caliber offense/Starting-Five coupled with a Little League bullpen. My new viewing strategy, in games with a 3 run lead or less, will be to turn off the TV in the seventh, take a deep breath, run out to the local spa, maybe do some Yoga and practice some some relaxation-breathing, maybe get a massage, maybe tune into some harps and strings from the good ‘ol I-Pod, and then return home in a renewed state of mind before I flip on ESPN to learn how the Little League fared.

    I’ll say it again, and again, and again, and again, and again… and again:

    McBride/Durbin/Miner et. al are all good pitchers — that’s not the issue, and I mean no insult or disrespect to them as players/pitchers — but they’re long guys — NOT SETUP GUYS. They’re the guys you want when your starter falls off the mound in the 3rd or 4th or 5th inning.

    In the seventh and eighth inning (and ninth inning, too) you need a strike-out pitcher who throws strikes, throws hard, and doesn’t give up the walk. On top of that, ask a guy like Miner to be a SETUP guy, and he will likely pitch WORSE than normal. He will likely produce more walks/errors/wild pitches, etc. than he would in his comfortable role (oops — I’m really not a genius — yes, yes, I admit — I SAW the game).

    Since I hadn’t formulated my more Zen approach prior to this latest bullpen melt-down, I guess I’ll just now succumb to my more pedestrian routine and head off to the bar…

    Good night all.