Game 145: Rangers at Tigers

by billfer on September 11, 2007 · 102 comments

in 2007 Season,Game Post

PREGAME:It will be Chad Durbin and Vicente Padilla in the first half of today’s doubleheader. Padilla has been awful away from home this year with a 9.06 ERA in 51.7 innings. Last year it wasn’t an issue, so it’s most likely coincidence that his worst starts have come away from Arlington. He spent some time on the disabled list in July and August and in his 5 starts since coming back he has a 4.08 ERA with 16 K’s and 7 BB’s in 28 2/3 innings.

Durbin has been the ultimate swing man this year. He’s made 34 appearances, 18 as a starter and 16 from the pen. He’s back in the starting role again, and it will be his 2nd start since rejoining the rotation. He pitched 5 shutout innings in 78 pitches against the White Sox. I’d imagine he can throw a few more pitches today, hopefully with similar results.

The Tigers are using the B lineup, although it’s getting harder to tell them apart. Timo and Casey are hitting 2-3 in the lineup. Maybe Timo and The Mayor can team up for some magic. I mention this only because I wanted to say Timo and The Mayor. Doesn’t it sound like a cop show? Timo and The Mayor. Timo and The Mayor.

Game Time 1:05

 
 

{ 102 comments }

Kyle J September 11, 2007 at 12:37 pm

Or a rock band, ala Captain and Tenille.

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 12:56 pm

A cartoon, maybe?

I posted this in yesterdays game thread, but here it is again for anyone else who wants to see it.

Just for fun, last night’s Win Probability %:

http://www.fangraphs.com/wins.aspx?date=2007-09-10&team=Tigers&dh=0&season=2007

cib September 11, 2007 at 1:05 pm

Interesting lineup.
Just got in from picking up lunch and saw a bunch of people leaving my building to go to the game. I know I can’t go to EVERY game but I felt pangs of jealousy. It’s cool out but sunny and clearing up pretty nicely compared to midmorning.

Andrew September 11, 2007 at 1:10 pm

Beautiful day to play 2!

Tbone September 11, 2007 at 1:18 pm

Looks like we may need to score a few runs today boys. I have high hopes for Timo and The Mayor!

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 1:31 pm

Durbin does not look particularly sharp.

Kevin in Austin September 11, 2007 at 1:33 pm

What happened on that HR? I’m blacked out from Rangers on MLB.tv in Austin.

Kathy September 11, 2007 at 1:39 pm

I wish the guys would take a little more. He’s not throwing very many strikes. Or else bunt and get something going.

T Smith September 11, 2007 at 1:40 pm

HR went off Thames glove, hit the top of the wall, and rolled over.

Very bad break.

For that matter, the run in the 1st was also a bad break. Curtis misread the fly and it dropped in. He probably would have caught it if he read it right.

Kevin in Austin September 11, 2007 at 1:42 pm

Should Thames have caught it, or was it a tough play?

cib September 11, 2007 at 1:42 pm

So far, so bad. Of course the Rangers got into town yesterday, according to Mario and Rod, and were luxuriating at the Townsend Hotel while the Tigers were grinding it out last night. I hate that.

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 1:49 pm

Good to see Byrdak warming up already. Nothing like blowing out the bullpen as fast possible in a doubleheader.

Durbin’s gotta get it together here, quick.

Kathy September 11, 2007 at 1:50 pm

They gotta get Durbin out of there.

Mike in CT September 11, 2007 at 1:50 pm

Marlon Byrd? Yuck.

T Smith September 11, 2007 at 1:50 pm

I think Thames should have caught it. It wasn’t an “error”, but I think he should have got it.

T Smith September 11, 2007 at 1:52 pm

Time to start chipping away. This is certainly not an auspicious start.

Mike in CT September 11, 2007 at 1:52 pm

It seems with every swing the Rangers are aiming for the fences. With the softball-like lobs Durbins grooving in there, I can’t blame them. (Though Kinsler definitely went around for strike three when he got hit.)

cib September 11, 2007 at 1:53 pm

Oh holy hell.

Mike in CT September 11, 2007 at 1:54 pm

Wallside Windows is definitely going to get it’s money’s worth this afternoon. Giving up runs is one thing, but the team, even with a crummy lineup better not Vincente Padilla look like Cy Young…or Gavin Floyd for that matter.

Tbone September 11, 2007 at 1:54 pm

Not exactly what we needed from Chad today. Need to shut then down and start swinging the lumber now.

ron September 11, 2007 at 1:54 pm

Still early. We can come back. Look at last night.

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 1:55 pm

I ripped on Byrdak last night, but I was wrong. He’s been pretty good this year.

Sorry, Timmy.

Kevin in Austin September 11, 2007 at 1:55 pm

We can put 6 or 7 runs up on these guys no problem.

Bill A \ Kal MI September 11, 2007 at 1:56 pm

IMOBF ( In My Opinion as a baseball Fan ) the count is the best indicator of how a pitcher is doing:

If the at-bat ends 0-x that is the best: score: 0
If the at-bat ends 1-x that is score: 1
If the at-bat ends 2-x that is score: 3
If the at-bat ends 3-x that is score: 6
If the at-bat ends 4-x that is the worst: score 10

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 1:57 pm

Perfect time for an E-5

Mike in CT September 11, 2007 at 1:57 pm

It’s offical, Inge blows a routine play. This is going to be a long nine innings.

Tbone September 11, 2007 at 1:58 pm

Ugh.

Kathy September 11, 2007 at 1:59 pm

Rangers are big power hitters. Beat the orioles 30 – somthin.

But their pitcher isn’t very good. Tigers could have had 4 or 5 walks by now.

Mike in CT September 11, 2007 at 2:00 pm

Yep. Typical Tigers swinging at ball four. Every team seems to set out to rack up our pitch count, while we do the opposite.

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 2:00 pm

We’re going to need at least 6, Kevin. And that assumes we shut them down from here.

We have dug ourselves a big hole early. It’s not impossible, but it sho ain’t easy.

Where is the reset button?

Bill A \ Kal MI September 11, 2007 at 2:00 pm

our pitching is in the pitts again so blame Inge for something

cib September 11, 2007 at 2:02 pm

Maybe we can have a few consecutive guys get hit by a pitch.

By Any Means Necessary.

Mike in CT September 11, 2007 at 2:02 pm

Attaboy Inge. They hit Babe Ruth a couple times, too.

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 2:04 pm

LOL, good one, Mike

Mike in CT September 11, 2007 at 2:06 pm

Can we clone Timo at this point?

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 2:07 pm

goodness, a sure base hit hits Infante? we can’t get out of our own way…

Riley September 11, 2007 at 2:07 pm

Jeez, we’re making someone who can barely string a strike or two together look like Cy Young here…stop swinging at ball four fellas!!!

Riley September 11, 2007 at 2:09 pm

Wow, Fortune has certainly turned her back on us fast after last night’s miracle….that last AB hurts.

Mike in CT September 11, 2007 at 2:10 pm

Wow…I’m watching on the MLBtv and didn’t realize that ball hit Infante. Unreal. Typical of the season. An amazing comeback followed by a no-show vs. a team with nothing to play for.

cib September 11, 2007 at 2:10 pm

Timo’s hit – hit Omar? This is unreal. The bad breaks have just been smothering, all year.

Riley September 11, 2007 at 2:11 pm

On a side note, anyone know why Gameday has turned off the strike zone feature? Makes it a bit more difficult to judge the accuracy of the pitch calls…

Bill A \ Kal MI September 11, 2007 at 2:17 pm

Makes it a bit more difficult to judge the accuracy of the pitch calls…

ya think?

tee hee

Dave T. September 11, 2007 at 2:19 pm

whats the over/under on pitchers used by the tigers today/ this afternoon?

I say 10 total today
6.5 this afternoon

Mike in CT September 11, 2007 at 2:21 pm

Leadoff walk!!! Watch out for batted balls, Maggs.

Riley September 11, 2007 at 2:25 pm

Re: Bill A \ Kal MI: Yeah, I thought about that too, but seems a bit too obvious, no?

Also, what the hell is Padilla throwing that we have TWO called third strikes already? Is Ed Montague’s zone that inconsistent?

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 2:30 pm

Montague is a little erratic; Padilla is throwing a tailing fastball that might be a little inside but is too close to take.

Tbone September 11, 2007 at 2:35 pm

And once again the Tigers appear to be struck by Post-dramatic Win Syndrome.

Symptoms of this ailment include bullpen failures the day after your ace throws a no-hitter (see Game 64) and mailing it in the night after you win one at 3:30 a.m. (see Game 129). The illness can also account for getting pushed around by a pitcher with a road ERA over 9.

cib September 11, 2007 at 2:35 pm

Oh My God you must be kidding me. I’m leaving my office now, I’ll be at the park in time for them to ask ME to pitch . . .

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 2:37 pm

cib, if you leave and they rally, you are not allowed to watch a game for the rest of the year.

Just FYI.

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 2:43 pm

talk about mailing it in

Tbone September 11, 2007 at 2:43 pm

Just remember, the farther they fall behind, the more dramatic the come-back will be!

:)

Bill A \ Kal MI September 11, 2007 at 2:44 pm

nuffa this one for me

Bill A \ Kal MI September 11, 2007 at 2:44 pm

our Winter Project has got to be: Rebuild the Pitching Staff.

cib September 11, 2007 at 2:45 pm

ha ha Mark.
Honestly, this is shameful.
I am supposed to meet Billfer et al at the bar at 5:30. I might just stay there and not go tonight. I’m as loyal as they come but they are doing their best to kill me today.

Mike in CT September 11, 2007 at 2:45 pm

Just when you think there is a glimmer of hope…this is absolutely pathetic. It’s even beyond pathetic.

The starting pitching just isn’t there this year.

Can they call up Chris Shelton for mop up duty in this one?

Tbone September 11, 2007 at 2:46 pm

It’s kind of fun watching Capellan’s ERA go up with every pitch…

Mike in CT September 11, 2007 at 2:46 pm

Oh, Capellan has officially added an “R” to his last name.

Ben in Denver September 11, 2007 at 2:49 pm

This is killing me. Maybe my boss will call me in for a one-on-one talk. That would be more fun.

Kathy September 11, 2007 at 2:50 pm

You gotta wonder if Chuck Hernandez will be the Tigers pitching coach next year.

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 2:51 pm

If we win the nightcap and the Yankees lose, we’re 3 back.

The good news is that no matter how many runs the Rangers score, it only counts as one loss and we start tonight’s game 0-0.

ez September 11, 2007 at 2:54 pm

Brandon takes the lead among AL 3rd sackers in errors again. But at least this time he didn’t tag a bag that did not have force play on it, which is nice. Though to give credit where credit is due, he has plummeted all the way down to 3rd place in the AL in strikouts. Of course his next strikeout will tie his career high, and he will have done it in roughly 166 fewer at bats… But today isn’t Inge’s fault. Bad, bad, BAD pitching.

Ben in Denver September 11, 2007 at 2:57 pm

Mark, that’s a good attitude. I’m latching on to that philosophy and turning my afternoon around.

cib September 11, 2007 at 3:00 pm

Mark I might have to start calling you Pollyanna. What’s your number so I can textmessage you from the ballpark tonight when I need more uplifting sentiments, lol

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 3:06 pm

I’ve found it’s easier to be upbeat when you’re drunk 99% of the time. :P only kidding.

At least there’s more room on the bandwagon now.

cib September 11, 2007 at 3:14 pm

Yeah – I wonder how many we’ll see tonight – with the weather getting cooler and this going on – - -

Bobby September 11, 2007 at 3:15 pm

I was disappointed, and now I’m just angry.

How can the same staff be so good one year, then so bad the next? It’s stupid.

cib September 11, 2007 at 3:18 pm

Okay, 4 runs each inning and we’re golden – - -

As a distraction, here is a tediously detailed article about the Zumaya fingernail

http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070911&content_id=2201557&vkey=news_det&fext=.jsp&c_id=det

Gentlemen, no more making fun of the concept of “breaking a nail”!! Now it’s serious stuff!

Bill A \ Kal MI September 11, 2007 at 3:19 pm

How can the same staff be so good one year, then so bad the next? It’s stupid

dunno

what was changed ? ( tee hee )

tiff September 11, 2007 at 3:21 pm

I’m with Mark – we’ll get em next time. Now at least I can get some work done this afternoon.

tiff September 11, 2007 at 3:22 pm

one more thing – you think Leyland knew this was going to happen? After the dramatic win, Leyland said bluntly, “It won’t matter if we don’t pitch good tomorrow.” Be careful what you wish for!

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 3:29 pm

Leyland’s favorite quote (it seems) is:

Momentum is only as good as tomorrow’s pitcher.

He is right. Durbin sucked, and the guys behind him were worse. We could score 8, it still wouldn’t be enough. Thus, there goes the mo’.

Kathy September 11, 2007 at 3:30 pm

I think he said it for his pitchers to hear, tiff. The starting pitchers have to keep them in the game.

Rings September 11, 2007 at 3:33 pm

How disappointing to follow up yesterday’s magic with this horror-show. Our pitching is abysmal at the moment.

For perspective, this was on Starks page today at ESPN.com:

Rings September 11, 2007 at 3:34 pm

“Ominous note for teams like the Tigers, Dodgers and Phillies (all of whom emerged from Labor Day weekend at least three games out in the wild-card race): In the 12 seasons of the wild-card era, just one of the 24 wild-card teams was as many as three games back on Labor Day: the 2001 Cardinals. One asterisk: The ’99 Reds were four out, came back and tied the Mets, but missed the playoffs because they lost in a one-game playoff the day after the regular season.”

cib September 11, 2007 at 3:39 pm

GUM TIME!!!

Ben in Denver September 11, 2007 at 3:40 pm

Mark, please talk to Rings.

Bill A \ Kal MI September 11, 2007 at 3:44 pm

this can’t be happening

Bill A \ Kal MI September 11, 2007 at 3:47 pm

oh no they got Omar

we’ll get um in the bottom of the 9th

cib September 11, 2007 at 3:47 pm

Un-freakin-believable.
How many HRs is that? In our park???

cib September 11, 2007 at 3:48 pm

Is Rapada who we got for Monroe, or Maroth? Can’t remember.

Kathy September 11, 2007 at 3:49 pm

We get Rapada and cubbies get c-mo. OMG did you see that pitch

Walt September 11, 2007 at 3:52 pm

I looks like Rapada gets about 1 out per 2 HR. That is about fair for C-mo.

cib September 11, 2007 at 3:53 pm

I’m watching on Gameday. Oh please make it stop.

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 3:54 pm

Rings,

I saw that piece that Stark put out there. I would frame it another way:

In the WC era, 2 of 24 teams were 3 or more games back on Labor Day and came back to have a legitimate shot at the postseason on the season’s final day. That is 8.3%, and the Reds lost in a one-game playoff, where the odds of either team winning are roughly a coin flip. If the Tigers come back and tie the Yankees and go to a one-game playoff, any of us here would take it.

Plus you’ve got the whole issue of sample size, etc. and a very limited portion of the schedule. I don’t think there’s enough there to draw any concrete conclusions. The Yankees made up 14.5 games from July to September 10 in 1978, and that doesn’t get counted because it’s not part of the “WC era”.

It’s tough, but not impossible. Losing 13-5 isn’t good, and we need help. But it’s not impossible.

tiff September 11, 2007 at 4:03 pm

So, I think I’m afraid to stop outside, because if 8 home runs flew out of comerica, it must be too windy to drive. It’s pratically a tornado, right?

cib September 11, 2007 at 4:05 pm

“You wouldn’t have won if we’d beaten you.” – Yogi Berra

Tbone September 11, 2007 at 4:06 pm

At least we kept them under 30…

Kevin in Austin September 11, 2007 at 4:06 pm

I told you we’d put up 6 or 7…but I didn’t think we’d give up 13…

Oh well. Let’s just win tonight and hope for a Yankees loss, I’ll take 1/2 game.

Ben in Denver September 11, 2007 at 4:06 pm

Okay! Who’s ready for another one?

Kathy September 11, 2007 at 4:08 pm

Very anxious to see Jair. He had such good stuff before he went on the DL. We sure do need a good game from him.

cib September 11, 2007 at 4:10 pm

Well, I’ll be there, guys, with the Billfer group. Wish us luck!

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 4:13 pm

Does anyone remember the results from last year’s bloggers day? I can’t recall exactly, but something tells me we lost the game.

Bill A \ Kal MI September 11, 2007 at 4:14 pm

Very anxious to see Jair. He had such good stuff before he went on the DL. We sure do need a good game from him.

me too & Roger that

Adam September 11, 2007 at 4:21 pm

Haven’t we been swept in every double header this year?

Just sayin.

cib September 11, 2007 at 4:25 pm

Hey Mark and Adam! Cut it out!!!

Kathy September 11, 2007 at 4:26 pm

We won’t know until after the game tonight, Adam.

Adam September 11, 2007 at 4:33 pm

Well, at least the Rangers have to be tired of running the bases by now.

Mark in Chicago September 11, 2007 at 4:42 pm

I think Marlon Byrd’s second home run just landed.

Joey the K September 11, 2007 at 4:43 pm

Hey remember that game last night?! Wasn’t that great?!!!!

cib September 11, 2007 at 4:44 pm

LOL stop you guys!!!

tiff September 11, 2007 at 5:02 pm

After the last Day-night doubleheader, I remember Danny Knobler saying something about how poorly the Tigers have performed, versus back-to-back doubleheaders, and he warned about their last one of the season, on Sept 11.

Prove ‘em wrong, boys!

Good luck to all the bloggers at the park tonight.

Coach Jim September 12, 2007 at 10:34 am

Am I missing something? Where are the comments from the 2nd game? I got 4 tickets last-minute. More than tickets, I got the free parking pass for lots 1&2, and the complimentary free pizza & pop. Nice….

I had a perpindicular angle, so I couldn’t tell if Jair was dealing, or just got lucky. No arguing with the results though. Everyone was good, including favorite-whipping-boy Jason Grilli.

It struck me as odd that in the 9th inning Clevelen replaced Perez in LF, but left Magglio in RF. Haven’t we been hearing about how Magglio’s range is hampered by a bad heel? It looked like it from where I sat. And didn’t Timo make several outstanding catches recently? Puzzling… just like pinch running Maybin (fastest runner available) Monday night when his run would still have us 2 down.

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