
Curtis Granderson had a heck of a 2007. He made baseball history accumulating 20 doubles, triples, homers, and stolen bases and becoming one of only 5 players to ever accomplish the feat. He had what was rated in many circles the defensive play of the year when he reached over the left-center field wall to pull back a Wily Mo Pena homer. He was a television analyst for two networks during the post-season. When all his work was done he served as an MLB ambassador in South Africa. Now he’s getting ready for the First Annual Curtis Granderson Celebrity Basketball Game to benefit the Grand Kids Foundation. Given his whirlwind tour I’m very appreciative that Granderson would take the time for an email interview with the Detroit Tigers Weblog.
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Interviewing Curtis Granderson
Detroit Tigers Weblog: First off, congratulations on a tremendous, MVP-candidate type season. Do you have any personal goals for the 2008 season? The quad-25 perhaps?Curtis Granderson: Thanks. For me personally, I never really have statistical goals before any season, because they can be looked at in so many different ways. I like to focus on improvements and percentages: hit lefties better, increase my walk to strike-out ratios, and fewer errors in the outfield. I also like goals such as: compete everyday, HAVE FUN!!!, KEEP IT FUN!!!, and continue to learn everyday. -
Tigers announce Tigerfest 2008 lineup
There will be 23 Tigers players on hand at Saturday’s Tigerfest. They are: Jeremy Bonderman, Tim Byrdak, Miguel Cabrera, Curtis Granderson, Jacque Jones, Todd Jones, Macay McBride, Zach Miner, Magglio Ordonez, Placido Polanco, Rick Porcello, Ryan Raburn, Clay Rapada, Edgar Renteria, Nate Robertson, Ivan Rodriguez, Kenny Rogers, Bobby Seay, Jordan Tata, Marcus Thames, Justin Verlander, Dontrelle Willis and Vance Wilson.
Tigers President, CEO and General Manager David Dombrowski and Vice President, Assistant General Manager, Al Avila, will participate in activities around the park along with manager Jim Leyland and his entire coaching staff. Former Tigers expected to be on hand include Gates Brown, Barbaro Garbey, John Hiller, Mickey Lolich, Dan Petry, Dave Rozema, Jon Warden and Milt Wilcox. Tigers broadcasters Rod Allen, Dan Dickerson and Jim Price will also be on hand.
A quick check of the list reveals four prominent players who won’t be attendance. By my count Carlos Guillen, Joel Zumaya, Fernando Rodney, and Brandon Inge will not be there. I’m not going to read too much in to any of those that won’t be there, just pointing it out for those who are going. The event is a sellout, but there are tickets available on StubHub!
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links for 2008-01-07
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Nice capsules of the AL Central
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John Walsh runs his annual analysis. Maggs was a hair below average and Curtis was a shade above average.
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Third baseman for sale
The Brandon Inge situation has become all consuming for the Free Press and News. In all fairness, things have been pretty quiet on the Tigers beat with the Willis signing the only news since the Winter Meetings. In the first article of substance though, Lynn Henning gets in touch with Dave Dombrowski and it’s looking more and more like Inge maybe a Tiger in 2008. Given the market for Inge, this is probably best for all parties.
Dombrowski has shown a willingness in the past that when it’s time to move a player who has generally been a good citizen, he’ll try to do it in a favorable way. He found decent situations for both Craig Monroe and Mike Maroth last season. When he cut Pena he did it early in the spring to give him more time to find another job rather than stringing him along. I have to believe Dombrowski is doing his best to honor Inge’s wishes to be moved. But unlike those other situations, Inge could still fill a need on the Tigers and probably carries more value for Detroit than any other team. Part of that is Inge’s contract which nobody wants to eat. Part of that is Inge supressing his own value with an awful offensive season in 2007.
Thankfully Dombrowski doesn’t seem intent on dealing Inge for nothing. For Detroit they have nothing to gain by moving him right now. Best case scenario is that Inge can re-establish himself in 2008 and he can be dealt for something in 2009. Worst case scenario is that Inge struggles again and the Tigers end up eating his contract – which is pretty much where they are at right now.
I understand that Inge wants to be a full time player, but he also needs to realize how unlikely that is unless he can show that he can hit like he did in 2004 through 2006. Versatility and general athleticism is what kept him the league when Pudge Rodriguez was acquired and that same versatility is his best hope at finding a starting job at some point in the future. With a DH that hasn’t played a full season since 2005, and a first baseman with creaky knees, there is a decent chance that there will be significant playing time for Inge even as a reserve (not implying that he’d play those positions, but it would create other oppotunities). Not to mention the Tigers might be kind of good this year and even a bench role isn’t exactly a death sentence.
Inge has been staying silent, which I can’t really hold against him. What exactly is he supposed to say at this point? What will be interesting is if Inge still considers himself a member of the team and participates in next week’s Tigerfest and Caravans. A low profile will be hard to maintain starting a week from today for Inge, whether or not he comes North for the festivities.
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Trammell, grass, and the Hall of Fame
This year’s induction class for the Baseball Hall of Fame will be announced on Tuesday. And once again Alan Trammell will be on the outside looking in despite some compelling arguments that he should be in. I won’t make a case for him because quite frankly I’m fully aware of my bias. He was one of my favorite players growing up (behind only Lou Whitaker who was royally shafted) and so it’s probably best if more objective parties make their cases for Tram’s inclusion.
But I do want to briefly tackle one issue that Trammell dissenters have cited. And really it’s an argument that I’ve only seen from Joe Sheehan. Sheehan dismissed Trammell’s defense saying that he was helped by the notoriously long grass at Tiger Stadium. That’s premium content so I’ll just quote the most germane part of the article here for you:
I’m wary of the defensive numbers on him, as his home park was notorious for its high infield grass. With so much of Trammell’s statistical case built on very good defensive stats at his peak, the twinge of doubt I feel about their validity makes me nervous.
And to paint a fair picture, this was only of several reasons that Sheehan listed for doubting Trammell’s candidacy so this isn’t a make-or-break argument. It sounded reasonable enough to me that I didn’t think twice about this argument.
Rob Neyer called for further investigation of the point. Neyer stated:
Two, while I’m intrigued by the notion that Trammell’s solid defensive credentials — he won four Gold Gloves, and Bill James has him as a Grade B-minus shortstop over his entire career — are partly the result of the high grass in the Tiger Stadium infield, I’d sure like to see somebody do some actual work on this one. Yes, sinkerballer Walt Terrell’s home/road splits were massive when he pitched for the Tigers, particularly from 1985 through ’87. But did other sinkerball pitchers fare particularly well in Tiger Stadium during Trammell’s career? Were Trammell’s fielding stats significantly better at home than on the road? If the grass was long and did lead to more plays for Trammell, did it cost him anything as a hitter?
Inspired by Neyer I decided to at least take a very crude look at what effect the grass had on ground ball hit rates. This isn’t exactly answering Neyer’s question or refuting Sheehan’s claim, but at least it is another data point. My methodology was to look at all groundballs hit, and see at what rate they produced baserunners. I then converted those rates to park factors.
The park factors are over 7 seasons – from 1982-1988. Why those years? It was two fold. First, it corresponded reasonably well with the peak of Trammell’s career. Second, there was no change over in ballparks during that time making the analysis a little more convenient.
Here is the table with my results:
Team PF MIN 1.33 KCA 1.27 BOS 1.25 MON 1.21 DET 1.20 TEX 1.18 ATL 1.15 PHI 1.13 LAN 1.12 CHN 1.03 CIN 1.03 SDN 1.01 NYN 1.00 PIT 0.99 SLN 0.94 MIL 0.94 CHA 0.94 TOR 0.93 SEA 0.90 OAK 0.88 CAL 0.85 CLE 0.82 BAL 0.81 NYA 0.77 SFN 0.72 HOU 0.65
The higher values indicate parks where more grounders resulted in baserunners, and conversely the lower numbers would make the parks more favorable to the defenders. Tiger Stadium was one of the parks where more grounders resulted in baserunners – over 20% more – which would make Trammell’s defense more impressive, not less. Of course the same adjustment would have to be applied to Tram’s offense which could make his offensive numbers less impressive.
Explanations for this? Maybe the long grass slowed down balls too much meaning there were more infield hits. Perhaps the long grass, or bad infield dirt, led to more bad hops meaning more difficult plays or more errors. Or perhaps the grass wasn’t as long as it was reported, much like the 440ft dimension painted on the centerfield wall.
Caveats: I didn’t break it out and look at the impact by position. It could be that this is all the result of things being favorable down the lines. I don’t know. If Dan Fox continues working backward with SFR perhaps these types of issues can be uncovered. I have the data to do it, but the chances of me finishing it prior to Tuesday are slim. Maybe another day. Also, the Tigers had a great deal of stability at the time with their up the middle defenders meaning they are a large part of the sample. There was no regression or accounting for this – just straight arithmetic.
Still at a first glance it doesn’t appear that the long grass made the infielder’s jobs any easier at Tiger Stadium.
But this is all a moot point when it comes to Tram’s chances anyways. Tram has been hovering in the teens since being on the ballot and actually saw his numbers at their lowest in 2007 when he only had 13.4% of the vote. My hope was that with a weak ballot he could have maybe gained some steam and broken the 30% mark. However, Keith Law’s unofficial tally has him improving, but only to 22%.
I don’t view Tram’s exclusion as an egregious error. Even being a fan I don’t think it is a slam dunk case. Still, I don’t understand the voting disparity between Ozzie Smith and Trammell when you look at their entire body of work. That to me is the bigger injustice.
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Lunch with Tigers, support a cause
I received an email from Ashley Diersch who is with the Special Olympics. The Tigers North caravan bus will make two stops at luncheons that will benefit the Special Olympics. The details are below:
Lunch # 1
Sunday January 13, 2008
The Atrium Restaurant
Bay City, MI
Doors Open at 11:15 am
Program Begins at 11:45am
Tickets are $100/each
Lunch # 2
Monday January 14, 2008
Mountain Town Station
Mt. Pleasant, MI
Doors Open at 11:00 am
Program Begins at 11:30am
Tickets are $100/eachLimited Seating- First Come First Serve!
The ticket includes private lunch with the Detroit Tigers Personnel, pictures with the 2006 Championship Trophy and exclusive Tigers Souvenirs.
Portions of the ticket price are tax deductible.
Here are the caveats. First, the listing of players/coaches hasn’t been announced yet. Second, the caravan is a strict no autograph time, so those in attendance can not ask for autographs. The Tigers players are not working, and will not be ready to answer questions as if in an interview, it is designed more to be an opportunity to converse rather than question. My experience with these types of things is that these aren’t rules that the players are imposing so don’t be upset with the Tigers players about the lack of autographs. Typically it’s not because the organizers, or the team want to be jerks. It is usually a matter of logistics and crowd control. And really, a conversation would probably care more meaning than a hastily scribbled signature anyways. As for the lack of interview type questions, I’m not entirely sure what that means but I’m confident that the players would be receptive to typical fan-type questions.
But if you want to meet some Tigers, support Special Olympics of Michigan, get a meal, and a tax deduction this sounds pretty good. If you’re interested, here are the order forms for the Mt Pleasant Tickets and the Bay City tickets.
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Detroit Tigers Weblog 2007 Year in Review
A look back at the year that was 2007 here at the Detroit Tigers Weblog…
January
- The Tigers inked Timo Perez and Bobby Seay. Seay would turn out to be pretty good while who could have fathomed the consternation Timo would cause.
- I began writing more than most cared to know about first pitch swinging and other stuff about plate appearances.
- Tigerfest is a sell out, and really cold.
- Jim Leyland calls out Neifi Perez, in what would be the beginning of a tumultuous year.
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links for 2007-12-29
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Lee looks at RPE’s for the Tigers in 2007.
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Mike R wrote up the top 5 prospect list for Project Prospect.
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Plugging a fellow blogger here. Dylan has launched what looks to be an excellent blog about UM Hoops. As someone who blogged through the 2003 Tigers – God Speed Dylan
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Posnanski hates the Morris for Hall of Fame argument that he was the best pitcher of the 80’s. I tend to agree. While a case can be made for Morris, it rings hollow as long as Bert Blyleven is on the outside looking in.
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But Posnanski does agree that Lou Whitaker got the shaft and echoed my thoughts on his candidacy rather precisely. I don’t know if Whitaker is a HoFer, but the disparity between Whitaker’s and Sandberg’s treatment is inexplicable.
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Wikio ranks DTW as the 57th top sports blog. A ranking I’m quite proud of.
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Another plug to a friend who recently launched a blog covering Detroit sports – specifically the Tigers and Lions.
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Matt is working on figuring out the minor league rosters and tries to tackle the starting rotations.
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A depressing walk through the Randy Smith era
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One more post on Comerica’s outfield
There are a few items that didn’t fit into the other posts about the outfield park factors that I wanted to wrap up.
First I wanted to acknowledge some other work that was done. Chone calculated outfield park factors in the fall of 2006. I either missed this or completely forgot having seen it.
Also, Dan Fox continues to post about simple fielding runs and has now calculated the metric for the outfielders, which include outfield park factors. What I found surprising in Dan’s work is that using SFR Curtis Granderson ranks below average. It’s the first defensive metric I’ve seen that has him ranking poorly. Comerica’s outfield park factors that show fewer balls dropping in, adjusts his SFR downward because in some respects Comerica’s centerfield is a little easier to play.
A more detailed look at Comerica
When I was doing the other park factors, I was doing it at a broader level. Fox was breaking it down by hit type and batter handedness. I had pulled back that data as well and thought it was worth looking at a more granular view. The table below reflects Comerica Park’s park factors for the last 4 seasons.

Lee commented in the original post that he was curious to see what would happen with line drives because Comerica Park has a reputation as being great for line drive gap hitters. This seems to hold true for lefties who see more balls than normal drop into the corner outfield spots. But for right handers the opposite is true.
Meanwhile right handed hitters are best served to drive the ball to centerfield which is the only field that is favorable for them.
I find it interesting that fly balls to center rank so well for righties while they rank poorly for lefties. I wonder if this is a case of positioning and that perhaps the fielders are over shifting. It’s also worth reiterating at this point though that we don’t really know where the balls are being hit using this data. We just know who ultimately fielded the ball.
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Warm wishes
I just wanted to take a moment to wish everybody a happy and healthy holiday season. May you be safe in your travels.
For Tigers fans I think we’ve already received some pretty nice presents. Here’s hoping that Miguel Cabrera’s stocking gets stuffed with a nice fat contract extension in the not-too-distant future.
I also wanted to announce some Christmas presents to DTW readers. I’d like to say thank you to the top 3 commentors on the site in 2007 with a baseball book. First, here are the top 3 commentors ranked by volume:
1. Kathy (1214)
2. Mike R (1048)
3. stephen (926)Starting in order they will get to choose between The Hardball Times Annual
, The Soul of Baseball
, and the yet-to-be-released Tigers Corner 2008
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Merry Christmas and the warmest wishes.
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How bout that Chad Durbin
I didn’t really expect to be writing another post about Chad Durbin. Sure, I was going to include a link at some point that he had signed with the Phillies, but that was just going to be a bullet point. But while reading Bless You Boys this morning, it was brought to my attention that Durbin took time to swing by Roar of the Tigers and leave a comment.
You see, Samara took a liking to Durbin following his spectacular effort against the White Sox earlier in the year. Samara thought the effort and Durbin were “pimp” and as Samara does she created an image to that effect. It came became a running thing. With Durbin leaving, Samra did one last pimp for Chad Durbin. Chad left the following comment on the post:
Samara,
Thanks so much for the attention and virtual pimp status! My family informed me last year of the blog and it was certainly the focus of some fun-poking on my account. I understand baseball’s dynamics and realize that it is hard to find reasons to cheer for some of the obscure, forgettable players. There are more “forgettable players” out there than the stars…we all understand that much. I don’t have to defend the amount of tremendous success a baseball player must have to reach even the obscure status, either…because this was all in fun. Thanks for finding reasons to make us/me unique. The beauty of free media, right??
I’ll have to check in to see who the next pimptim is…best of luck! Oh yeah, to ease your mind on having to cheer against me…I’ll most likely be in the NL. Pittsburgh, Philly, NYMets…somewhere like that.
Chad Durbin
Very cool on Chad’s part and very cool for Samara as well. And while I posted the comment here, the real incentive for you to click through to Roar of the Tigers is the imagery itself.
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Granderson’s Charity Hoops Event
Curtis Granderson is hosting a celebrity basketball game to benefit Grand Kids Foundation. The game will take place at Avondale High School on the evening of January 26th. The confirmed participants so far include Tyrone Wheatley, Andre Weathers, Courtney Hawkins, Jeff Grayer, Anthony Dirrell, and Rashad Evans.
- The Grand Kids Foundation aims to enrich the educational experiences for children within the inner cities. Some of the goals are as follows:
- Provide educational resources for schools in need (books, computers, new classrooms/equipment, etc…)
- Provide educational resources for students in need
- Establish scholarship programs in both Detroit and Flint for those students that excel, but are in need of financial assistance
- Help fund inner city athletics programs with new equipment
- Establish district-wide programs to enhance the experience of education, and make it more fun for students
- Pay for school visits/free clinics for inner city children by other athletes and celebrities
All kinds of credit goes out to Granderson for being so quick to give back. Curtis only has 2 years of service time meaning that he’s only making near the league minimum and isn’t a millionaire athlete and already he’s involved.
For those worried about Granderson turning an ankle a month before spring training, he won’t be playing in the game. He and Nate Robertson will coach the teams representing Flint and Detroit and the two will compete in a 3 point shooting contest.
Tickets are $15 for adults and $10 for kids. There are also $10 autograph tickets available as well.
Tickets can be purchased at the Grand Kids Foundation.