Game 2010.134: Tigers at Twins

Tigers’ last game at the new Target Field this season.  Good riddance.

Tigers look to their ace to salvage a win in the series.  It’s a shame that Galarraga and Scherzer were not rewarded for their dominant efforts already, though Liriano pitched like an ace yesterday. Man do I miss Seay.

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86 responses to “Game 2010.134: Tigers at Twins”

  1. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Tigers first inning pretty much a microcosm of the whole season: bases loaded nobody out = 1 run. And lucky to get that.

    1. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
      Tigers Fan in Toronto

      That’s why they are a sub .500 team……..inconsistent offense.

      1. Vince in MN Avatar
        Vince in MN

        When Kelly and Raburn are your hitting stars for the last month, that kind of says it all.

  2. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Am I the only one that can clearly see that the ball hit off the concrete behind the wall? Or am I not seeing good replays?

    1. Vince in MN Avatar
      Vince in MN

      Umpire conspiracy!

      1. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
        Tigers Fan in Toronto

        The Tiger’s have been screwed over by the umps all year!

  3. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
    Tigers Fan in Toronto

    Bases loaded 0 out for the Twinkies in the first…….lest’s see what they do?

  4. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Bases loaded and nobody out and somehow the Twins manage to come up with 2 runs immediately. And off our “ace” yet. I just don’t get it – how do they do it?

  5. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Scott Baker (known as “the homerun maker” here in Minny) is out. Anybody hear why? I haven’t got the game on here.

    1. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
      Tigers Fan in Toronto

      Right elbow pain for Baker…….as per Rod and Mario on the Tiger broadcast.

  6. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Another runner thrown out on the bases.

  7. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Sigh.

  8. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    4 ER is really tough. Had Rhymes caught the ball, DP gets us out of the inning.

    1. Vince in MN Avatar
      Vince in MN

      5 IP – 10 hits. Unless the hitting team is the Tigers, that will usually result in a bunch of runs. Sure the error hurt, but Verlander hasn’t exactly been “Ace” tonight.

  9. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Is there a compelling reason to follow this mess for the rest of the season? They don’t hit well, they don’t field well, the baserunning is abysmal, pitching is suspect, given their play in these areas I have grave doubts about the coaching, and they definitely aren’t managed well. Seeing what the “young guys” can do isn’t a reason because we have been pretty much watching that for the last two months anyway.

    1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
      Kevin in Dallas

      Tons.

      1) JV can tie a career high with 19 wins.
      2) AJax is the leading candidate for ROY.
      3) If Boesch can have a September like his May or June, he may challenge AJax for Roy.
      4) Is Scherzer the long-term #2 we’ve been hoping for?
      5) Can Wells and/or Rhymes contribute in ’11?
      6) Can one of the young guys step up and contribute in the bullpen?
      7) More series like this one, and JL is sure to go.
      8) Will Inge set the all-time Tiger strike-out record?
      9) What do we do at SS? I think Santiago is easily exposed when he plays too much, but is Peralta the answer? Or should we re-up Peralta b/c he’s good enough, and worry about C, 3B, LF and the bullpen?
      10) Can Avila separate himself from Laird?

      1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
        Kevin in Dallas

        Note the number eight followed by ) ends up with a smiley face in sunglasses.

        1. Vince in MN Avatar
          Vince in MN

          I said COMPELLING. 😉

          1) No
          2) Yes, proven already
          3) No
          4) Yes, proven already
          5) No
          6) No
          7) No – I wish, but No.
          8) Ha Ha
          9) Not what we’re doing this year.
          10) More importantly, can Avila seperate himself from St. Pierre.

          How do you get the smiley face with sunglasses?

          1. Vince in MN Avatar
            Vince in MN

            You were serious about the 8) – never knew that!

            1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
              Kevin in Dallas

              Not proud about it, just kinda happened.

          2. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
            Kevin in Dallas

            You really think JL is coming back? Do you at least think it’s up in the air?

            1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
              Kevin in Dallas

              Actually, Raburn is our LF next year. So ignore that portion of #9. Though Raburn, Jackson, Boesch doesn’t really give us a sure-fire 25/100 OF like most teams have. Possibly, but not a sure thing.

              Raburn had a .963 OPS in August. Sick.

              1. Vince in MN Avatar
                Vince in MN

                He was hot at the end of last season too. It’s the rest of the season I worry about. If they could just leave him in Toledo through the AS break……..

            2. Vince in MN Avatar
              Vince in MN

              Illitch said he’s back. I may question his wisdom, but not his integrity. I think JL is back to finish off the contract.

  10. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
    Tigers Fan in Toronto

    Good teams find ways to win…….Bad teams find ways to lose!

  11. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    You have to give Rhymes credit, at least he induced the same sort of error that he made.

    Let’s see how the team does now without that dead weight Cabrera in the lineup.

    For one thing I predict no IBB, = < LOB.

  12. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Tigers make an error, Twins take advantage by scoring 3 runs.
    Twins make an error, Tigers take advantage by scoring 0 runs.

    Its all so predictable.

  13. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    I generally reserve the 8) for day games.

  14. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    KID: Let me start by saying I like your list. But I have to say your #10 makes me a bit uncomfortable.

  15. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    The only big question remaining tonight is whether or not “Rusty” Valverde gets to put some work in, and secondarily, does he just pitch the 8th or come in for the last out of the 7th too.

  16. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Cuddyer tags up and goes from 1st to 2nd on a long fly out. He can’t do that, can he?

  17. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    It hurts losing Zumaya, and really really losing Seay, but I’ve got to add my 2 cents here: it also hurts losing the much-unappreciated Zach “Looks Like a Rabbit” Miner. Down the stretch last season he was the one Tiger trending upwards, and was part of the potent Bominer middle relief combo.

    1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
      Kevin in Dallas

      Agreed all the way around. Before tonight, our last 5 losses had all been in 1 run games (or something like that). Close game losses are usually the fault of the bullpen.

      There could be a lot to like about this team next year. I would really like it if Smokey weren’t at the top step.

      1. Andrew in Toronto Avatar
        Andrew in Toronto

        Really, without this terrible bullpen I think we would still be in this race, despite all the other problems.

        I haven’t looked at any numbers, but they seem to be losing us a lot of games.

      2. Vince in MN Avatar
        Vince in MN

        Leyland can’t manage a bullpen for S**T – never could. Over the course of a long season this can take a toll. They may be worn down. It’s funny, up til last season, the guy was more likely to leave pitchers in too long and frequently not have anyone warmng up in crucial situations. Last year that changed – he started changing pitchers faster than he could light up another smoke. This year he has been even worse.

        1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
          Kevin in Dallas

          I can barely manage my fantasy bullpen, so I’m no expert, but yeah, JL is freakin’ nuts. (“I manage a baseball team. Oh like little league? No fantasy.”)

          But anyway, I remember that we had the best bullpen in the AL through May, and one of the best at the AS break. Does anyone know where to lookup bullpen splits?

          We do lead the AL with only 9 BS…

  18. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Twins are putting on a clinic tonight. Is anybody in Tiger management watching? My guess is that this stuff slides right by JL, but how about somebody higher up?

  19. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Is the Cabrera shoulder thing serious?

  20. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    You’re not, you’re not good. Ramon, you stink.

    I’m gonna guess Coleman gets that reference first.

  21. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Wanna guess who is 1-10 RISP, and who is 4-11?

  22. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Finally they take advantage of a mistake.

    I like Rhymes so far, but the sample size is pretty small and he doesn’t have any power. He should have a good shot at making it as a reserve though. That’s no small thing for this team, which IMO has had a weak bench for years.

    Oh no, Figaro in 🙁

  23. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    This is so bush league.

  24. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Can you believe that a team with Denard Span and Alexi Casilla at the top of their lineup is 21 games over .500? 21 games???!!!

  25. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    What the heck kinda name is Denard anyway?

    Was there any doubt that Repko was gonna score there?

    1. ouchudied Avatar
      ouchudied

      Denard Robinson, man. Get on the bandwagon while there is still room (I hope).

  26. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    “Ramon you stink.”. Of course: it’s from Cabbyshack.

    1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
      Kevin in Dallas

      That would be a good name for the bar he’s gonna own with Ozzie Guillen and the rest of the White Sox.

  27. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Vince – good point about Raburn. Probably why I was so high on him coming into this season. Where can we lookup historical splits?

      1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
        Kevin in Dallas

        Raburn was a very respectable .842 pre, and a fantastic .933 post in 2009.

        1. Vince in MN Avatar
          Vince in MN

          As I recall, last year the feeling was that Raburn had “breakout” year – if a reserve who gets about 300 or so PA can be said to have such a season. He certainly is turning it on now after a horrible start. However, he really hasn’t proved himself as a full time player yet and the jury is still probably out as a role player too. The danger is in projecting his sporadic part time success to a full time role: see gerald Laird.

  28. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    I used to commute over the Denard Span until they raised the toll.

  29. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    I say next year let’s go with a Raburn-Boesch platoon. Not righty-lefty; I mean play Boesch April – June, Raburn July – September

    1. ouchudied Avatar
      ouchudied

      This is genius.

  30. ouchudied Avatar
    ouchudied

    I’m pretty sure I just heard Inge commemorate that K to stephen

  31. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    One thing we could watch for is how Wells does the rest of the way. I thought he was kind of on the down side of the bubble after ST, but he seems to have made some adjustments in Toledo as the year went on – hopefully some of that willl transfer to MLB.

    1. ouchudied Avatar
      ouchudied

      Vince — have you seen a game at the new twinkie stadium yet?

      1. Vince in MN Avatar
        Vince in MN

        Virtually impossible to buy tickets for good seats – foul territory in the OF corners doesn’t count. You need to know someone who can get you comps – and I don’t. It looks like it should be a good park though. A friend of mine managed to get decent comp seats for the upcoming KC series and I’ll find out more from him. The Dome was a monstrosity.

        1. ouchudied Avatar
          ouchudied

          Looks to be a nice park–I’m a big fan of upper decks. Only complaint I have are the flowers lining the left field wall– what the hell is that about?

  32. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    I was pretty hopeful about Casper until yesterday. I was watching the game with a girl who doesn’t watch baseball, and I said oh Casper is up and I want to watch this. Then she said, hmm he kind of has a tragic face, like Liam Neeson or something. I’ve learned not to discount these types of observations.

    1. ouchudied Avatar
      ouchudied

      I’ve also learned a few things watching the Tigers with my girlfriend.

      Boesch is ‘cute’
      Cabrera is ‘big’
      Rhymes: ‘ewwww… what is that. that haircut is gross’
      Scherzer is ‘intense’

      And the one insightful comment I heard, in regards to Rod and Mario:
      ‘these guys sound like they are stupid’

      She knows more about baseball than I do.

    2. Vince in MN Avatar
      Vince in MN

      Women are more attuned to this sort of thing than men, generally. You can score very important “sensitivity” points by pretending to agree/understand what they are talking about.

  33. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    I’m thinking about a “meet the DTW faithful” series in the off-season. I mean, isn’t everyone else curious about what Coleman does with the other 21 hours of his day?

    1. Vince in MN Avatar
      Vince in MN

      Vegas or Reno in January/February would be nice. 8) – I love it.

  34. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Rhymes with his eww hair is apparently the anti-Everett, who it seems had awesome hair.

    The anti-Everett…one more point in favor of keeping Wee Willie.

  35. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Weinhardt and Figaro got a pretty sweet ERA battle going.

    1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
      Kevin in Dallas

      Figaro lives to lead another day.

  36. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    You’re assuming I have any idea what I do with the other 21 hours of my day. In fact I suspect my days are shorter than the standard 24 hours.

    1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
      Kevin in Dallas

      Exactly the type of answer which furthers the notion that my “Meet the DTW Faithful” series would get off to a roaring start.

  37. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Well we would have to meet at a central spot, since we are from Detroit, Texas, California, Minnesota, etc. Which begs the question: what is there to do in western Iowa anyway?

  38. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Leyland burning through the bullpen again tonight.

    1. Vince in MN Avatar
      Vince in MN

      Speaking of burning through the bullpen, with Gardenhire out, whoever has taken ove managerial duties for the Twins is runnig through their pen too – Duensing just started vs Tigers onTuesday!

      Rayburn!!

  39. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Ramon Santiago has become the bane of my baseball existence.

  40. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    IBB Jackson to pitch to Rhymes – potentially a BIG mistake.

  41. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Oh, I think I could certainly find my way to Vegas..by the way though, what ever happened to What’s-His-Name In Vegas?

    1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
      Kevin in Dallas

      Ken in LV. We’ve met up before out there. Knows his way around.

  42. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Even the Twins announcers are calling those strikes.

  43. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    I have no stats on what happens if you bring in Valverde in the 11th…although I doubt anything could be as bad as bringing him in in the 8th…

    1. Vince in MN Avatar
      Vince in MN

      Apparently he becomes a poor man’s Todd Jones.

  44. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    SAT question for you:
    Which of the equations below is most like this one

    4:18:::5:13

    a) # of fat calories in a Little Caesar’s hot & ready
    b) Shawn Kemp’s baby-momma to children ratio vs. Travis Henry’s
    c) Tigers RISP v. Twins RISP
    d) JL smoke burn rates to Cabby Tecate burn rates
    d)

    1. Vince in MN Avatar
      Vince in MN

      e) all of the above

  45. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Holy cow, this may end up as the most embarrassing loss of the season.

  46. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    CLICK!!!

  47. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Baseball makes no sense.

  48. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Have any of the additional players arrived yet for the expanded roster? What relief itchers are being added?

    1. Vince in MN Avatar
      Vince in MN

      pitchers, not belly itchers!