Game 2009.024 Indians at Tigers

PREGAME: As I start to write up today’s game thread, I realize the team has split the first 2 games of a series quite frequently. Basically every series since their first 2.

Today it will be Justin Verlander who is coming off his best start of the season. We’ll see if the stuff is there again, and it better be because the Indians can beat up Verlander pretty good. He has a 4-10 career mark against Cleveland and they’ve hit him at an 837 OPS clip.

The Indians send out their ace as well, lefty Cliff Lee. Clifton Phifer Lee was shelled in his first 2 starts, but has posted 3 quality starts since then allowing 3 runs in his last 20 innings.

One thing to watch today, Inge has hit Lee to the tune of 400/471/633 in 34 plate appearances. Inge is also riding that consecutive games on base streak. Things look favorable for him today in terms of match-up, but will these be one of those paradoxical baseball things where he gets stymied?

Inge might get an extra shot for his streak as he moves up one spot in the order with Gerald Laird getting the day off.

  1. Granderson, CF
  2. Polanco, 2B
  3. Ordonez, RF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Guillen, LF
  6. Inge, 3B
  7. Raburn, DH
  8. Everett, SS
  9. Sardhina, C

Cleveland vs. Detroit – May 3, 2009 | MLB.com: Gameday

POSTGAME: Verlander’s fastball was the story of this game. He rode his high 90’s heater to 11 strikeouts, good enough to put him on top of the AL leaderboard. It was simply a matter of overpowering the Indians hitters. It wasn’t fancy, it was just raw heat. He’d mix in a curve or change early in the count, but more often than not it was the fastball that either had Cleveland frozen or waving at air. It was beautiful.

And when Verlander did get in trouble in the 7th inning, with the bases loaded and nobody out, it was more domination. His last 7 fastballs AVERAGED 99.25mph. As Rod Allen would say, that’s some serious cheese. He went to that cheese 79 times today, 55 for strikes and 11 of the swing-and-miss variety (plus 2 foul tips into the glove).

Bobby Seay was a little shaky for the second straight day, but Joel Zumaya came in and induced a bullet right at Adam Everett. Fernando Rodney finished things off with a 1-2-3 9th inning on 12 pitches.

As for the offense, it was Brandon Inge again going deep. Everybody had a hit except for Guillen and Raburn. Guillen hit the ball well in 3 of his at-bats, but right at the right fielder every time.

This one felt good, and in what was a very up and down week finishing the week 3-3 isn’t so bad.

Comments

112 responses to “Game 2009.024 Indians at Tigers”

  1. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Has there been any recent news on Thames? Seeing Raburn as the DH in the lineup makes me cringe.

    Also, maybe Verlander’s success during day games and his troubles against Cleveland will cancel out, resulting in a decent start.

  2. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Rod and Mario let us know the Raburn play yesterday was changed to an error, much to the chagrin of Asdrubal Cabrera.

  3. Forty Avatar
    Forty

    At least he can’t misplay pop-ups from the dh spot

  4. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Has anyone noticed there are a lot of empty seats in the stadium?

  5. Ryan P. Avatar
    Ryan P.

    JV looks quite good. But with him, who knows.

  6. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIInge

  7. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Amazing. Number 8 for Brandon. Lee gave him way too many fastballs.

  8. Dylan Avatar

    Locked in. Wow.

  9. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    No marker on the fence, how far does anyone think that was

  10. Ryan P. Avatar
    Ryan P.

    Good call, Billfer?

  11. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    They’re almost all locked in…all of em but Carlos.

  12. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    And Everett. Who knew?

  13. David Avatar
    David

    INGE!

    If he continues this he better make the all star team

  14. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    Seriously. Someone needs to petition Jim to sit Carlos. Like bench him for like a ling time. like maybe all of May.

  15. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Wow. 11 outs, 8 of which have been strikeouts.

    1. Brian P Avatar
      Brian P

      Now 9 out of 12.

  16. Dylan Avatar

    Wow… Verlander is feeling it. Making the Indians look foolish.

  17. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Verlander is throwing pellets up there

  18. Ryan P. Avatar
    Ryan P.

    Man, it’s fun to watch the Indians flail at these 97 mph fastballs. And then cringe as the breaking ball falls right into the zone.

  19. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    he’s a-smoking. that’s for sure. unfortunately, he’s getting up there in pc. at this rate it’ll be a quality 6. which leaves the ‘pen plenty of time to muff it up.

  20. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Jim will let him throw 120+ if he’s still getting batters out. We saw plenty of that last year.

  21. Russ Avatar
    Russ

    he’s on pace to be at about 130 at end of 6.

  22. Ryan P. Avatar
    Ryan P.

    On pace for 108 after 6, actually.

    And yeah, if he’s in the 100-105 range, Jim will give him another inning.

  23. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Ten

  24. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    I see a lengthy “that’s nasty” segment in Verlander’s future.

  25. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Im liking Curtis (and I have him in my FFBL). I think he is showing to be better than Maybin. Good Team and MLB baseball guy.

    Turning into a great player

  26. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    Verlander is now tied with Greinke for the AL lead in strikeouts.

  27. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Repeat

  28. Kyle J Avatar

    8 baserunners for us. 2 for them. Sure would be nice to have a lead at this point.

  29. Ryan Avatar
    Ryan

    Wow, that couldn’t have been a worse time for Sizemore to swing at the first pitch.

  30. Dylan Avatar

    Yeah, 8 hits versus 1. At least Verlander got away with a relatively quick inning. Need to put some runs on the board and get him a W.

  31. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Wow Nice range for Curtis.

    we NEED runs. Can’t let this go for Verlander. We need a win and so does he. No sure you can seperate. Eitehr way a W

  32. Chris Avatar

    Folks, I’m sorry to say that Guillen is the ’09 version of Shefield. I’d like to see him have a few more days off. Now, can he not field. He can’t hit either.

  33. Chris Avatar

    this is the inning where it all comes apart

  34. Adrian from Toronto Avatar
    Adrian from Toronto

    uh oh

  35. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Wow nice strike by Maggs, makes them think

  36. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    I didn’t agree with walking Delucci, but we’ll see how it works out.

  37. Chris Avatar

    I don’t like the idea of leaving Verlander out there. I think you want to preserve is endurance.

  38. Kevin in Austin (now Dallas) Avatar
    Kevin in Austin (now Dallas)

    JV is fine.

  39. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Verlander, your AL leader in strikeouts.

  40. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Serves his behind right for stepping out late

  41. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    Oh hell yeah.

    Now let’s find him a run.

  42. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Big jam gone………………………..

    Lets get some runs

  43. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Phew! Nothing like a heart-pounding May game.

  44. Dylan Avatar

    Wow. Nice day Justin… That was too close for comfort though. Get him a run.

  45. Kevin in Austin (now Dallas) Avatar
    Kevin in Austin (now Dallas)

    Bravo

  46. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    That ought to be a momentum changer. We should score three this next half-inning.

  47. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    @ Chris, good time for second thoughts 😉

  48. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Hey Billfer are you thinking of a game we can all get together later in the season.

  49. Ryan P. Avatar
    Ryan P.

    Amazing job JV. Let’s get him some runs and the win, eh?

  50. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Treanor who?

  51. Ryan P. Avatar
    Ryan P.

    Yeaaaahhh Sardinha!

  52. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Hey Billfer, are you thinking of a game we can all get together later in the season.

    1. billfer Avatar
      billfer

      I don’t have anything planned.

  53. Ryan P. Avatar
    Ryan P.

    And Grandy. Way to be.

  54. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Did anyone catch Rod in between innings describing the Indians new call up? “Hey Kid you won’t see anything like that in Triple A” …… Describing Verlanders last 96 mph pitch and a K

  55. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    I’m not a stats hound but 27K for a Sunday afternoon game against a division rival. Good weather etc seems low

  56. Ryan Avatar
    Ryan

    Why aren’t don’t pinch run Anderson for Magglio here? He’s better defensively, and he could swipe second base, so he could score easily on a single.

  57. Chris Avatar

    come on Guillen… make me eat my words

  58. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    Guillen has hit the ball well today and should have more to show for it.

  59. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Thinking ahead………….. Who is coming in for us?

  60. Chris Avatar

    ..ok. Never mind… Guillen is in a massive slump. time to swap his spot in the order for Inge’s

  61. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Zumaya then Rodney? Or did Zumaya throw too many pitches yesterday? But with lefties due up, we’ll probably get Seay.

  62. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Zumaya now please.

  63. Dylan Avatar

    So…. Do we have any options besides Raburn in AAA? Clevlen? Who else?

    1. Ryan Avatar
      Ryan

      Jason Tyner, former Twins OF. Can’t hit much, but will play solid defense.
      Also, Wilkin Ramirez. Hey, maybe we could call Timo Perez, he’s playing in Mexico right now.

  64. Kevin in Austin (now Dallas) Avatar
    Kevin in Austin (now Dallas)

    I’m with billfer – Guillen is swinging the bat well. I think he’ll get out of this slump soon, though he probably won’t be much above average moving forward.

    I’d like to see Anderson keep performing and move into the leadoff spot, and then we can move Grandy to 3 and bump Maggs to 5.

    1. Adam Avatar
      Adam

      Anderson
      Polanco
      Granderson
      Cabrera
      Ordonez
      Inge
      Laird
      Guillen
      Everett

      ?

  65. Chris Avatar

    “I’d like to see Anderson keep performing and move into the leadoff spot, and then we can move Grandy to 3 and bump Maggs to 5.”

    I like that idea. the only thing is that Grandy doesn’t get on base consistently enough for Miggy. I almost wouldn’t mind batting Miggy 3rd and have Grandy in cleanup.

    1. Joel in Seattle Avatar
      Joel in Seattle

      Doesn’t Curtis see different pitches hitting in front of Miggy, though?

  66. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Seay is making me nervous.

  67. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Big Z coming in to throw some heat.

  68. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Dude, I was asking for Zumaya like ten minutes ago.

  69. Ryan P. Avatar
    Ryan P.

    Zumaya has a tendency to allow a hit before he settles in. Consider me scared.

  70. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    @ Adam………… He needed to warm up GTG now

  71. Kevin in Austin (now Dallas) Avatar
    Kevin in Austin (now Dallas)

    I’ll take it.

  72. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    Ok Nice job !!! Does Zumaya stay in?

    1. Ryan Avatar
      Ryan

      I wish, but I doubt it. He pitched a lot yesterday, so it’s Rodney time.

  73. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Not right down the middle, Joel! Too close for comfort. That could have scored two if Everett didn’t snatch it.

  74. Ryan P. Avatar
    Ryan P.

    Nice. Good job Z.

  75. Ryan Avatar
    Ryan

    Okay. We need. 2 more. 4 more. 6 more.
    Whatever makes this an easy finish for our bullpen.

  76. Kevin in Austin (now Dallas) Avatar
    Kevin in Austin (now Dallas)

    Adam – that’s it. If Maggs’ power does regress (it’s early, but I’m a bit concerned) I wouldn’t mind moving him to 2nd and putting PP at 8th or 9th. We need to start developing some young OF power, b/c I think that Maggs hitting 30 HRs anymore is gonna be a stretch.

  77. Ryan Avatar
    Ryan

    Good start Rodney. He’s bringing the heat.

  78. Dylan Avatar

    “They wouldn’t do that to him would they padna?”

  79. Ryan P. Avatar
    Ryan P.

    Great win.

  80. Kevin in Austin (now Dallas) Avatar
    Kevin in Austin (now Dallas)

    Could have had a lot more runs on 12 hits. Nice game today. Go Mavs.

  81. Joel in Seattle Avatar
    Joel in Seattle

    Excellent pitching today. I’m loving all of the series wins.

    1. Adam Avatar
      Adam

      Agree. Also, I had to comment on your peasant being burninated. Classy.

  82. Dylan Avatar

    Great game all around. Verlander was lights out. Inge hit another. Grandy came up with another huge RBI and the bullpen got it done.

  83. Chris Avatar

    time to give credit, where credit is due. Rodney has stepped-up to the closer role pretty well… a little bit rocky sometimes. But for the most part, he looks like our closer so far.

  84. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Scott Baker is no-hitting the Royals through six.

    1. Adam Avatar
      Adam

      Waldo just broke it up.

      1. Brian P Avatar
        Brian P

        Crashed and burned in the seventh. Good. We don’t need their young pitching to dominate again this year.

        1. Chris Avatar

          Twins are way-way-waaaaay overrated! Through the past few years they have been lucky to have had some flash-in-the-pan career seasons by many of their young pitchers, all at once. Also they HAD Santana. But now he is gone and the law of averages is finally going to catch-up with this team.

          Twins will be in last place.

    2. Ryan P. Avatar
      Ryan P.

      Keep winning though, Twinnies. Back to first would be nice.

      1. Chris Avatar

        Skrew you… Go to the Twinkie board and root for your team there… Me, I despise the twins. I regret that Bud did not get his wish and destroy the team. And now their greedy owner got tax payers to buy him a stadium… Retarded Minnesotans deserve to freeze in their miserable state.

        1. Ryan P. Avatar
          Ryan P.

          Rooting for the tigers, bud.

          1. Chris Avatar

            ok… sounded like you were for the Twins… now that I re-read it, I see whatcha sayin’.

            I hate the Twins just too much

        2. billfer Avatar
          billfer

          There is so much wrong with this post. First you got the facts wrong. Ryan P has been on this site all year. Second, there is no reason to call a whole state of people any name (except Ohio) and retarded sounds like something from the second grade playground. Third, you spelled skrew wrong. This is an example of crappy discourse. I expect more from this comments section.

          I hate other teams too and rooting for and against other teams is fun. But this is poor.

          1. Mr.  X Avatar
            Mr. X

            Only thing wrong with Minnesota is that their team is in a small market. Twins fans are some of the loyalest in baseball. I have so much respect for Jack Morris for going back to Minnesota to play.

          2. Adam Avatar
            Adam

            Haha. Skrew.

          3. Chris in Dallas Avatar
            Chris in Dallas

            Haha. Except Ohio.

    3. Ryan P. Avatar
      Ryan P.

      Wow, the Royals are breaking that one up in epic fashion.

      1. Chris Avatar

        i’m lovin’ it… I can just feel the air being sucked out of the RetardDome as an easy looking no-hitter turns into a crushing defeat. Twin fans deserve nothing better.

  85. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    Games in which we allowed 2 or fewer runs:

    2008: 31/162 = 19.1%
    2009: 9/24 = 37.5%

    That projects to 61 games over a full season. If we win all but a few of those, we have roughly 95-100 games left. I’d say we need to win about 30 of those to win the division.

    1. Adam Avatar
      Adam

      Awesome. How many of those games did we win?

      1. Brian P Avatar
        Brian P

        2008: 29/31
        2009: 9/9

        Our winning percentage in games where we allow 3 or more runs is 26% so far. I’d say it needs to climb to 30-35%.

  86. TigerTomas Avatar
    TigerTomas

    Hatred of Twins is probably warranted. I moved to the Twin Cities from North Western Ohio in ’66 – as a Tiger fan (since 1950). I watched “The Bird” pitch at Metropolitan Stadium in Bloomington in in 1981. Suffered through the 1987 play-off debacle. The resulting hubris locally was excessive. Currently I park next to the Metrodome every day and I have listen to the Twins PA announcer as I leave work before their night games. This is the Twins last year in the Homer Dome, and next year will be a comeupance when the Twinks must adjust to the the light of day and real grass.

  87. Eric Cioe Avatar
    Eric Cioe

    In terms of raw stuff, Verlander is unmatched in the division with the possible exception of Greinke. Even looking at the AL as whole, I can’t think of many with better stuff than Verlander. Some might say Felix, but I don’t think so. Beckett and Burnett? I view Verlander as having an equal of better fastball, a slightly worse curve, but Verlander’s got a changeup that neither of those guys have. Beyond that, I’m just not sure.

    It’s nice to see him harnessing it a bit and learning to control it better, and it’s really nice to see him striking out so many. Even in 2007 when he was above 8/9IP, I wondered why he didn’t have more, given the sort of stuff he’s got. Last year and 2006 were real head scratchers for me regarding the strikeout numbers. He should be striking out a guy an inning, and that’s what he’s been doing all season now. Good for him, and great for the ballclub.

  88. Ryan P. Avatar
    Ryan P.

    The fact that Verlander was averaging 99 mph on those last few fastballs on the 7th, AND locating them all well is just amazing to me. That was one fantastic inning.

  89. West Coast Tiger Avatar
    West Coast Tiger

    7th inning was a confidence builder for JV. He knows he can get out of those bases loaded situations, and he proved it to himself. He had to be thinking of the big innings he gave up early in the season. The Indians can’t be looking forward to Friday.

  90. Chris in Dallas Avatar
    Chris in Dallas

    When Verlander has the stuff that he featured yesterday, it makes me giddy. He’s got the tools to be one of the best pitchers in baseball. When he figures out how to slog through games when he doesn’t have what he had yesterday, I’ll be thrilled.