Say What??

Al Avila says Ausmus is back.

Lynn Henning tweet 3:46 pm.

Followed shortly by the official club statement from Al Avila:

Avila

Beck’s post, which also includes the statement, in case the twitter picture is too small to read.

 

Comments

42 responses to “Say What??”

  1. Jim EggersUSMC Avatar
    Jim EggersUSMC

    OMG! WTF! You have got to be kidding me!

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      That would have been a good post title.

    2. StorminNorman$ Avatar
      StorminNorman$

      Jim – those were my thoughts exactly…well the WTF! portion anyway

      and i agree w/Tony’s assessment that Avila/Illitch/JL may have concluded that Ausmus is under contract for another season, and based on the re-tread mgr’s available, that Ausmus is as good as any of those recycled mgrs

      well, i was pretty optimistic going into the ’15 DET season, and got that totally wrong – so let’s hope the pessimism i feel for the ’16 DET season is as totally misguided.

      i will say that the acquisition of Norris, Boyd & Fulmer, etc may be the saving grace for the ’15 season – because ‘finding quality pitchers’ has to be this off-season’s mantra for DET

      I also agree w/Jud in that this Ausmus also indicates that Avila Sr will bring back Avila Jr next yr

  2. jud Avatar

    They are totally happy with. .500 if they can get there!!!…in fact FIRE ..AVILA…he obviously knows nothing about baseball!!

  3. TIGERS RULE Avatar
    TIGERS RULE

    I hope there is method in this madness! Is there a top-notch manager’s contract that’s over after next season, that the team will then hire? If not, then this is another screw-up by Senior Avila since he was named GM, and the management of the Tigers is in complete disarray!

    1. TIGERS RULE Avatar
      TIGERS RULE

      ….. and it shows on the field!

  4. jud Avatar

    This move assures us the Alex will be resigned…Neither Brad or big Al have the cajones to tell Alex he is done!…a big reason Ausmus is back!

  5. Tony de Florida Avatar
    Tony de Florida

    I think the decision to bring Brad back was actually made several days ago when Gibby and Mario started telling us he deserved another chance. Our announcers except perhaps Jack Morris are company men. No matter how poorly Casty plays or how much lack of effort there is, or bonehead base running, you’ll never hear it from our announcers. My favorite announcer is Hawk Harrelson in Chicago who is universally hated, it seems, by everyone. There is even a website devoted to removing him. Wonder if the White Sox management is behind that because he doesn’t cut anyone on the team any slack?

    Keeping Brad is not a good decision, it was the only one available. I think it unlikely that the Tigers will be contenders for anything except early tee times on the golf course next year. If you look at all the names that have been thrown around as a replacement, none could be considered even mediocre. Why bring in anther slug to disrupt everything only to have to can him in two years? From a management view, it would be better to continue to build a competitive club and hope someone really competent becomes available next year.

    1. Jud Avatar
      Jud

      I do agree with you on who is available. That list is pretty lean. When we missed on Francona two years ago Ausmus almost became the best available. Now that were basically stuck, maybe he will actually get better. After all where do you go from rock bottom last place.
      Its totally understandable why the players want him back, you don’t have to do anything.

  6. Tony de Florida Avatar
    Tony de Florida

    No matter what, someone should have run for Victor.

  7. Jud Avatar
    Jud

    I see the boys were so inspired to show their backing of the skipper that they managed 2 runs out of 13 runners…..less than 2…#58…get used to it boys!

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      Yeah, but they got more hits!! This team gets hits! No runs, but…hits!

  8. Kaline fan Avatar
    Kaline fan

    You wanna get JD out —–just throw him 3 pitches in the dirt = 3-swing K. Earlier, I thought he would get to 40 bombs. Now —-looks pretty doubtful…

  9. Kaline fan Avatar
    Kaline fan

    Nick: Get in FRONT of the ball!!

  10. Tony de Florida Avatar
    Tony de Florida

    Gee Gibby, another mental error? That is the bad news about keeping Brad. Little things like hitting the cutoff man probably will not improve much, although the coaching staff should at least share the blame.

  11. Kaline fan Avatar
    Kaline fan

    Randy no got it today; Wolf not howlin’….

  12. Tony de Florida Avatar
    Tony de Florida

    Nick, that’s how you play third base. Not you, everybody else.

    1. Kaline fan Avatar
      Kaline fan

      Good one, Tony!

  13. Jud Avatar
    Jud

    This just in: Castallanos has improved from the worst defensive player in all of baseball to the Worst Third Baseman in all of Baseball. Onward and upword…Congrats Nick!

    (Side note:. If he isn’t the worst anymore, who could possibly be worse)

  14. Jud Avatar
    Jud

    Tigers new,strategy..instead of wasting 12-13 hits to get their 1-2 runs the are using 6-7 hits to get their 1-2, thus saving time. Just doing their part to help MLB on their way to #59…..

  15. Tony de Florida Avatar
    Tony de Florida

    Maybe we should give Casty a copy of the “Nunez Tapes” from this game!

  16. StorminNorman$ Avatar
    StorminNorman$

    the Nats Mgr will be fired, and they were expected to compete for WS…and won’t but there’s still some ‘fight’ left in a couple of their players 😉

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13755937/bryce-harper-jonathan-papelbon-scuffle-washington-nationals-dugout

  17. StorminNorman$ Avatar
    StorminNorman$

    http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2015/09/27/detroit-tigers-players-react-brad-ausmus/72922178/

    …so players indicate they’re glad Ausmus is coming back…but then again, after learning the GM said he was coming back for the ’16 season, what does one expect a DET player to say?

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      I applaud the decision to bring Brad Ausmus back, not to mention this announcement being made before the and of the season. I was impressed by how the pre-firing leak, true or false, didn’t get turned into a circus, thanks to Al Avila, Ausmus, and – especially – the players. Don’t know about you guys, but that told me something.

      The fan talk case against Ausmus is pretty much just that. If only “blame the manager for everything” applied everywhere. My job would be stress-free. I’m just a “player.” So what if I gave up a 2-run homer, struck out, made a terrible throw, ran into an out? Brad put me in that position to fail. He didn’t teach me fundamentals. He didn’t teach me not to swing at pitches Gameday would reveal to be low and outside, just off the plate.

      Aside from the mid-season trades that torched the season prematurely, it all boils down to one thing: Pitching. The Tigers didn’t have it. Take away Price and Soria and see what the stats look like. God-awful. Historically bad, maybe one of the worst staffs in franchise history. All the other stuff would have been mere bumps in the road with SOME kind of MLB-caliber pitching. Verlander was all that was left after the trades. I wouldn’t mind if he was the only one back for 2016.

      1. Coleman Avatar
        Coleman

        I’m not as enthusiastic as you are about Ausmus, but I do agree that if you are going to bring him back, it’s a nice touch to announce it now and not after the season.

        1. Smoking Loon Avatar
          Smoking Loon

          I don’t know that I’ve ever been enthusiastic about any manager, Coleman. (Well, there’s Sparky Anderson in 1984, of course. He could do no wrong. Didn’t hurt that his team could do no wrong either, one supposes.) I do think that the manager’s role in winning or losing any given game is wildly overestimated, inflated beyond belief. The manager is there to make the day to day and in-game decisions that have to be made by one person, not improvised or put to a vote. Where the idea comes from that much more than 50% of these decisions are going to be both good in result and worthy of note, I don’t know. A coin flip would probably make an average MLB manager.

          So there’s my second choice for Tigers manager: Coyne Flippe. No MLB experience, but a long NFL career of high-impact decisions. Followed closely by Magic 8-Ball. They need a baseball version, though.

  18. Jud Avatar
    Jud

    Hey Max, how’s that Washington gig working out for you???

    1. Tony de Florida Avatar
      Tony de Florida

      Max has same number of wins as Big Pasta and one loss more. All that and Big Pasta is $$$$$$$$$$$$$ cheaper! Baseball is a humbling game!

  19. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Just catching up. I’m shocked. And appalled. I’d say that there is a 5% chance that we are all dumber than we think, and a 95% chance that Avila is dumber than we had hoped.

  20. jud Avatar
    jud

    If you play in 60 games and score 2 or less runs, it doesn’t matter how bad or good your starting pitching is. It doesn’t matter how bad your bullpen is. This team is a mess and they re-upped the most unimaginative manager in baseball to try and fix that 60 games 2 or less!

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      Well, you know, the teams that are going to the playoffs are going there because they played better, not because their managers imagined runs for them, or even because they have some insurmountable edge in talent. Some of those genius managers will be bums next year when their teams don’t make the playoffs, or this year already when they lose in the postseason.

      Yes, 60 games of 2 runs or less is bad (but going 10-50 there is a bit uncalled for). I’d still say that 78 games of allowing 5 runs or more (17-61) is the more appalling of the two.

      And then there’s the strange case of 3 runs scored (1-10), which includes losses of 12-3,12-3,14-3, 9-3, 9-3, and 10-3.

  21. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Meanwhile, the Lions may have a decent shot to tie their 0-16 record. Oh wait, never mind, they play the Bears twice.

  22. Only Tiger Fan in Mississippi Avatar
    Only Tiger Fan in Mississippi

    Hi Kevin…me too on just getting caught up…Well…given Avila’s tweet, its good to know that they have the same goal of bringing a World Series championship to Detroit!

    Meanwhile Kevin…I am hoping for your Rangers to do some good.

  23. Jud Avatar
    Jud

    Tigs will lay down for your,Rangers Kevin!…they are saving themselves for the last place battle this weekend!…or fishing, or golf!

  24. Tony de Florida Avatar
    Tony de Florida

    Sorry Kevin, I’ve never forgiven Cruz and the Rangers for the time we met in the ACLS. I hope we sweep them! I bet the thought really scares you!

  25. jud Avatar
    jud

    The odds on a Tiger sweep are about the same as the Tigers qualifying for the playoffs…

  26. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    To be clear friends, Tigers are #1. It’s just hard to be a huge baseball fan and not get behind your home team from time to time.

    I was crushed when Cruz crushed that ball.

    1. Tony de Florida Avatar
      Tony de Florida

      I totally understand. As a native New Yorker I have become a Tigers fan but am enjoying the Mets surge and still hate the Yankees. Go Mets, Go Jays!

  27. StorminNorman$ Avatar
    StorminNorman$

    http://espn.go.com/blog/buster-olney/insider/post?id=11275

    appears Buster Olney believes DET would have done Ausmus a favor by firing him… as he sees DET on the decline