Game 2013.148: Royals at Tigers

85-62, Magic Number is 10.

Good win last night in a game where Justin Verlander had 0 walks. In fact, he didn’t get to a 3 ball count until the 4th, and had only 2 such counts all night. 9 Royals’ hits in 6 2/3 drove up the pitch count, but if JV issues his 2-3 walks along with those 9 hits, we’re talking about a different ball game. Interestingly, all 3 runs that the Royals scored last night came with 2 outs, and JV has allowed 42 runs with 2 outs this year. That’s nearly 1/2 of his runs allowed all year.

More two out JV fun – all stats are 0 outs/1 outs/2 outs.

  • BAA: .260/.230/.284.
  • BB: 19/19/30.
  • OPS+: 92/68/132.
  • BABIP: .304/.299/.353.
  • K/BB: 3.05/3.58/2.10

How do you explain/fix that?

Fister gets the rock tonight. Despite a respectable 5-3 and 3.32 ERA over his last 10, he needs to get into post-season shape as well. His WHIP during that time is 1.38 and he’s been drilled in 2 out of his last 3 starts. Fister was lights out in the playoffs last year, let’s get back to that.

Since my post yesterday, Boston has won twice and Chris Davis hit #50. Home field advantage and the triple crown are going to be very difficult and nearly impossible to achieve, respectively.

So let’s focus on four issues which I’d like to see worked out over the remaining 14 games – 1) can Cabrera get healthy, 2) can the bullpen pitchers settle into defined roles, 3) who will play LF and 4) can JV be dominant in the postseason.

A few notes:

– Remember, Iglesias is only a rookie. AL ROY?

– A little run support in the Game Poster League would be nice.

Peralta in LF is a real thing. I’m not against it.

– 2B prospect Devon Travis is the Tigers’ minor league player of the year.

Tonight’s Regulars Lineup:

1. Jackson, CF
2. Hunter, RF
3. Cabrera, 3B
4. Fielder, 1B
5. Martinez, DH
6. Dirks, LF
7. Infante, 2B
8. Avila, C
9. Iglesias, SS

Comments

73 responses to “Game 2013.148: Royals at Tigers”

  1. Smoking Loon Avatar
    Smoking Loon

    Good stuff on JV with 2 outs, Kevin. I’ve noticed, as many of us probably have, and there’s obviously something to it, more than a statistical quirk. Don’t know what it is, but I’ll take a guess: Two outs, he relaxes, starts working on things, complicating things, making pitch choices he wouldn’t have made to the same batter an out ago. He gets all “finesse” with 2 outs, getting away from “just pitching.” Just a guess.

  2. Smoking Loon Avatar
    Smoking Loon

    I don’t see Peralta *starting* in LF as a good or necessary thing, but being able to keep him in the game (in LF) after he pinch-hits is a great idea. Not that he couldn’t also stay/come into the game at SS (offensive) or 3B (defensive) as well.

    I can’t remember if Castellanos is eligible for the postseason roster, but he doesn’t really belong there, in my view.

  3. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    The Rangers have now lost 5 in a row–at home–and have to win tomorrow or be virtually eliminated from contention in the West. How quickly that changed!

  4. Smoking Loon Avatar
    Smoking Loon

    Yan Gomes would get my vote as AL Rookie of the Year, if I had one. Iglesias and Archer would be close seconds.

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      Jose Iglesias would get my vote as AL Rookie of the Year, if I had one. Gomes and Archer would be close seconds.

      1. Smoking Loon Avatar
        Smoking Loon

        Archer would get my vote as AL Rookie of the Year, if I had one. Gomes and Iglesias would be close seconds.

        1. Smoking Loon Avatar
          Smoking Loon

          That guy really confuses me.

  5. judpma Avatar
    judpma

    the other thing JV did well was limit the 2 strike foul balls. Seems like there have been 25-30 a game recently upping the pitch count and last night I thought it was more like the past couple years where he put batters away sooner.

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      I’m not sure how to extrapolate number of out-of-play foul balls from the following:

      Pit Str StL StS GB FB LD PU

      Anyone? I don’t see any direct reference to fouled-off pitches at baseball-reference.com.

  6. Smoking Loon Avatar
    Smoking Loon

    Devon Travis (assuming the best) is probably two years away, eh? Interesting situation at 2B brewing, with Infante a free agent after this season.

  7. mcb Avatar
    mcb

    At the game. Ball is jumping off Fister

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      Maybe the Tigers can use him as a bat.

      1. Smoking Loon Avatar
        Smoking Loon

        What’s the mood at the ballpark? I think this one might be long and futile. Or it will be short and seem long. Santana is a beast against the Tigers.

  8. mcb Avatar
    mcb

    Its quiet

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      Fister is something to cheer about. Odd that the Tigers score the least runs for their two groundball pitchers.

  9. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Sox rolling over for the Indians again tonight.

  10. judpma Avatar
    judpma

    Cy Santana at it as usual..funny that he isn’t 20-0..Tigers take pitch after pitch in the zone then fall over swinging at the two strike pitch in the dirt…cept Avila who just took 3 down the middle

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      Clever approach by Avila.

    2. Vince in MN Avatar
      Vince in MN

      And since they aren’t working the count, he is on his way to pitching an easy complete game – only 68 pitches through 6.

  11. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Cabrera has warning track power.

  12. Smoking Loon Avatar
    Smoking Loon

    Oof. Warning track power, indeed. I think this one’s over.

  13. Smoking Loon Avatar
    Smoking Loon

    Fister has been really good. Postseason form good. What a shame to waste pitching like this. With a lineup like this. The Tigers could be 40 over .500 and I’d still decry stuff like this.

  14. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    OK, now we are getting somewhere – two or three more hits and we can tie the core.

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      Or the score, even. Tying the core would be good, though. You get a win for that, don’t you?

      1. Vince in MN Avatar
        Vince in MN

        The ” ” on my keyboard eems to be ticking for ome reaon.

        1. Smoking Loon Avatar
          Smoking Loon

          You wouldn’t be bullhitting me about thi, would you?

  15. tbran Avatar
    tbran

    I know he is young and with few ABs, but so far this Castellanos kid has not impressed. Am I alone in that thought?

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      No, with the caveat that I didn’t expect him to impress. He’s been OK. Didn’t expect thunder and lightning. One season in AAA.

    2. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      Bad move bringing him in to pinch hit. When they brought in Will Smith Detroit should have countered with Tommy Lee Jones.

      1. Smoking Loon Avatar
        Smoking Loon

        I concur. Better actor.

  16. judpma Avatar
    judpma

    with an upper cut swing like that how in the world did you get this far. plus you stop your swing 3/4 of the way around….ah Tiger fundementals !!!

  17. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Torii still has an arm. Wow.

  18. Smoking Loon Avatar
    Smoking Loon

    What if the Tigers could do what Hosmer just did. That would be nice.

    Torii – OMG.

    So Fister walks the next guy. Ugh.

  19. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    I think KC has figured out the “bunt on Cabrera” thing.

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      They just bunt well as a team. Fister and Avila are good on bunts, nothing has been particularly at Cabrera.

  20. judpma Avatar
    judpma

    hey Fister, Great job…to bad the Pussycat offense was here agaig today for you….they should have let you hit in that Castellono spot, he has a Little League swing

  21. Smoking Loon Avatar
    Smoking Loon

    Cool beans, Jose Alvarez. Still 0-1, so the Tigers only trail by 10 runs.

  22. judpma Avatar
    judpma

    the Sux are keeping it under two touchdowns while saving themselves for the Tigs!!

  23. Smoking Loon Avatar
    Smoking Loon

    No joy in Mudville.

  24. judpma Avatar
    judpma

    Cabrerra is still at 50%..sure glad we thow him out there everyday…I mean Mumbles wouldn’t want to hurt his feelings !

  25. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    No run support again…

    Rally time.

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      I give them credit for making it interesting the whole way through. Too bad it ended the way it did. It shouldn’t overshadow one of the best defensive plays of the season, Hunter’s throw from RF to 3B. A career highlight play.

      1. Coleman Avatar
        Coleman

        Not to mention big clutch hit by Infante off of an incredibly tough closer.

        1. Smoking Loon Avatar
          Smoking Loon

          Yeah, very exciting, good mention and reminder. I can’t complain that this one wasted my time, not at all.

  26. judpma Avatar
    judpma

    as much as I hate losing…the lack of effort by guys getting millions of dollars grinds me!!! Especially just going thru the motions batting……..

  27. judpma Avatar
    judpma

    one good hit ball in the entire game!..

  28. tbran Avatar
    tbran

    that was insane! why send fielder home against A. Gordon? The guy is known to have a cannon for an arm. There was just no reason for that.

  29. Smoking Loon Avatar
    Smoking Loon

    Shouldn’t have sent Prince, no way. Wonder what Brookens and Leyland will have to say about this. Unbelievable. They never learn, apparently.

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      Leyland will say he agrees with the decision, it takes two perfect throws to get him (notice how many “perfect throws” Detroit seems to inspire?), gotta tip your cap, blah blah blah.

      1. Smoking Loon Avatar
        Smoking Loon

        Plus a perfect tag. In reality, they would have nailed Prince with a bit of imperfection thrown in there. Prince has enough steam in the locomotive for two bases, but not three.

        1. Coleman Avatar
          Coleman

          Prince gave it his all though, that’s all you can ask for from him. I wonder how long before guys start “Lamonting” Brookens and ignoring his signs.

          1. Smoking Loon Avatar
            Smoking Loon

            There’s a great quote from Prince lately that you may be paraphrasing. I liked it.

  30. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    No one gets thrown out at home like a Tiger!!

  31. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    And why didn’t they pinch run for Fielder to begin with?

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      I thought about that, and concluded that I wouldn’t want Prince out of the game at that point myself. But if you make that decision, you can’t then pretend that you *did* PR for Fielder, as the Tigers seem to have done.

      1. Vince in MN Avatar
        Vince in MN

        If you are losing by 1 run in the bottom of the ninth, you shouldn’t be thinking about later. Get a runner on who can take the extra base on a hit and then worry about later later. But maybe Fielder has a consecutive inning streak that is at stake as well?.

        1. Smoking Loon Avatar
          Smoking Loon

          No, Fielder can’t have a consecutive inning streak going, I don’t think. Pretty sure Tuiasosopo has replaced him at 1B with several innings to play, to mention at least one instance.

        2. Coleman Avatar
          Coleman

          He wouldn’t have been due to bat again until, what, the 11th inning maybe? I agree.

          1. Smoking Loon Avatar
            Smoking Loon

            I see you guises (!) point, but the difference between being down by a run and being tied is the difference between yes/no on PR for Fielder here. Tie game, sure, get Perez out there.

            1. Vince in MN Avatar
              Vince in MN

              Oh I see. Wait until the game is on the line.

              1. Smoking Loon Avatar
                Smoking Loon

                Behind: Tie now, win later = keep Fielder. Don’t sacrifice him just to tie.

                Tied: Win now or take your chances later = PR for Fielder. Sacrifice him to win now.

  32. tbran Avatar
    tbran

    it’s nonsense/BS like this that makes you wonder if these guys can really contend. Fingers crossed that my current state of mind is wrong. Oh well, tomorrow is another game.

  33. judpma Avatar
    judpma

    Leyland will mumble…”Best third base coach ever”…now that Lamont retired from third…what is this the 25 or 28th guy thrown out at home plate this year!!!!

    1. Smoking Loon Avatar
      Smoking Loon

      Coleman has the stats, not sure where he gets them. coleman-reference.com, maybe. It’s a lot.

      1. Coleman Avatar
        Coleman

        It’s 19 now, we’re 2nd to Boston (23). What I can’t find is any kind of indication how many attempts at home vs successful attempts at home.

          1. Smoking Loon Avatar
            Smoking Loon

            Aha. Thanks.

            I can’t find any indication of attempts/success here, either. Memory tells me there have been very few close plays at the plate where the Tigers were successful offensively. (I remember one great slide by Hunter on a close scoring play.) A fair number where the throw home didn’t allow for any real play at the plate. Some of those were just good breaks for the Tigers who might have been thrown out otherwise.

        1. Vince in MN Avatar
          Vince in MN

          There have been successful attempts at home!?

          1. Coleman Avatar
            Coleman

            I think there was that one time he accidentally sent one of the faster guys.

            1. Vince in MN Avatar
              Vince in MN

              Brookens must have gotten sand in his eye and mistook him for Fielder.

              The XBT% column is interesting in that chart. That’s the percentage of times a runner successfully takes an extra base on a hit. Note that we are dead last in that category.

            2. Vince in MN Avatar
              Vince in MN

              And we weren’t good last year either, but are worse this season. Lamont only got 15 guys tossed out at home last year.

              1. Smoking Loon Avatar
                Smoking Loon

                It’s some comfort to see the Red Sox ahead of the Tigers in OOBH.

  34. Smoking Loon Avatar
    Smoking Loon

    At 5 games out with 14 left to play, the Indians are still very much alive, unfortunately. Harder news for KC, really. A win tomorrow would simplify things, at least, and allow the Tigers to claim an almost-draw for the season series with Royals. Aside from the Angels – and what’s up with that, if good pitching always beats good hitting? – KC has been the big pest.