Yeah, that was the fur game of the series. Like the fur on the bottom of the strawberries that have been in the refrigerator a week too long, like the fur on your tongue at 7 am after a long night of drinking, like…well, you get the idea.
So here’s a fun one to keep you occupied over the break: when is the last time the Tigers gave up 8 unearned runs? (I mean, after that ambushing, Furbush still has a 4.03 ERA). And when is the last time Detroit scored 6 runs in the first 3 innings and lost? Even the bullpen, which gave up 4 runs, was only on the hook for 1 earned run.
They say that there is no such thing as an ugly win. Certainly, though, there is such a thing as an ugly loss.
At any rate, Charlie Furbush was optioned to Toledo after the game. Danny Worth was recalled.
Luckily this afternoon brings The Antidote (no, I didn’t enter this in the Free Press official Let’s Make Up Some Nickname for Justin Verlander contest). JV From the D (also not entered) looks to make it 3 of 4, and take the Tigers into the break on a winning note. Which is a good thing, since I think Don Kelly is about 3rd on the bullpen depth chart at this point.
The Royals will counter with some guy who is not Justin Verlander.
Today’s Player of the Pre-Game: Justin Verlander
For obvious reasons.
Today’s Ghostly Leadoff Lineup:
- Casper Wells CF
- Brennan Boesch LF
- Magglio Ordonez RF
- Miguel Cabrera DH
- Victor Martinez 1B
- Jhonny Peralta SS
- Ryan Raburn 2B
- Alex Avila C
- Brandon Inge 3B
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48 responses to “Game 2011.92: Tigers at Royals”
Speaking of Inge, last evening I sent Lee Pannas (Tiger Tales) an email asking about Inge’s defensive metrics compared to Kelly. He replied that the agregate defensive measures show Inge to be slightly below average, while Kelly hasn’t had enough innings at 3B to be able to judge. His personal opinion is that Kelly is the better player right now.
Mediocre in the field and atrocious at bat, Inge doesn’t belong in the lineup. I argue that he is in fact wasting a roster spot. He’s untradeable, and releasing him probably won’t happen, so barring a relapse into mononucleosis and going back on the DL, he’ll likely be allowed to continue to flail around at least a few games a week.
For all the talk in ST about taking the best 25 guys into the regular season, one of the biggest shortcomings the Tigers have had in the past several years is their insistence in sticking with underperforming players way beyond a reasonable amount of time. The out-sized contracts have undoubtedly led to this kind of tunnel vision and Inge is just anther case in point, I believe. The bottom line is that this kind of approach ends up handicapping the team, and that is certainly not sound baseball strategy.
I still don’t understand how Inge got a contact extension, as his decline was well underway when he was handed that deal. Seriously, it is tunnel vision for DD and JL with some of these guys. Honestly, that tunnel vision will be the downfall of this team and of DD and JL. Inge has no business being on the field or being in the line-up, especially with Don Kelly hitting better and, at least, appears to be fielding better.
Do you understand Peralta’s contract extension? He was in the exact same boat as Inge when he got his 2 year deal.
Career AVR/OBP/SLG/OPS:
Peralta: .262/.331/.428/.759 Age: 29
Inge: 235/.305/.388/.693 Age: 34
I understand the Peralta signing, I don’t understand the Inge one.
Last season, Inge was a better player than Peralta. Hitting they were about the the same, but with defensively Inge was the superior player.
Inge: .247 Avg, .321 OBP, .718 OPS
Peralta: .249 Avg, .311 OBP, .703 OPS
Inge with his Defense was a 2.1 WAR player last year
Peralta had just a 0.8 WAR last year and was a 1.0 WAR player in 2009.
Peralta hit .313 for the Tigers last year after coming over from CLE.
.313 is what he’s hitting this year. Last year he hit .253 for the Tigers.
You are correct Mr. X, I dropped down one line on his career numbers.
I guess it just matters what your patience threshold is. I think they have been fairly reasonable with their under-performing player contracts.
Just look at the White Sox. How much longer should they keep trotting Alexis Rios and Adam Dunn out there? Not such a difficult question considering all the money they are owed. They are basically stuck with them. Our problem with Inge is pale in comparison.
Just because the White Sox are idiots doesn’t mean we should condone Tiger management being idiots as well. Making a mistake and then insisting that your mistake was a brilliant idea is just plain delusional. Obviously the Inge mistake isn’t in the same category as the Dunn mistake, but it is still one that needs to be accepted and rectified. Also, Dunn is younger than Inge (31 to 34) is still in his prime and could turn it around. That’s much less likely for Inge, who is surely past his prime.
I’m not calling anyone an idiot. But Dunn is a huge slow guy and not much of an athlete. Inge is still a great athlete and is in great shape. He’s just not a good baseball player anymore, for whatever reason. Baseball probably isn’t all that important to him anymore. Inge is a selfish player, he’s not a team guy. He doesn’t like sitting the bench or watching the team play. So if we part ways with him, I’m 100% fine with that.
When that happens is the only question. We’ll just have to patiently wait for it. It could happen next week, but there is no time table. How does being aggressive help when we have nobody else in line to play 3B? Don Kelly is a slight improvement, but he isn’t the answer. After the break, they can try Guillen or Raburn over there, but the defense is going to be worrisome.
Most teams haven’t decided yet if they are going to be buyers or sellers at the trade deadline. We can probably grab a so-so guy like Casey Blake soon or we can wait it out and maybe get a guy like Scott Rolen.
We should have a better 3B before the playoff roster deadline at the end of August. When the rosters expand in September, we’ll have even more options.
nice pre-game Coleman…..right on as usual..To add to the idea of actually playing someone with Inge’s numbers…or I should say lack of numbers, has to be the EGO and total stubborness on Leylands part to accept the fact that Inge hasn’t produced. Leylands “He’s due belief” leads him to many poor decisions that defy logic….
Tor is doing their part. Let’s go Tigers.
Twins up 2-0 on Chi also.
They’ve been patient enough with Inge. With his defensive decline (which I hadn’t yet seen the numbers, thanks Vince and Lee), there is simply no justification for his playing time.
Agreed. “Patient” is the nicest way you can put it.
I see you requested another Raburn inning, Coleman.
Brilliant move
A little stat padding…and then Inge to top it off
That was the perfect opportunity to send in Dirks to hit for Inge, but no.
Well, Inge delivered on that pitch around of Avila. It’s almost like clockwork now. If Inge is in the on-deck circle in a critical situation, you can expect him to get an opportunity to bat before a pitch is even thrown to guy in front of him… How much longer are we going to be subjected to the Inge and Raburn Sideshow? One or both has got to go. I’m just hoping Carlos Guillen can return relatively healthy to boot one of them to the pine after the All Star Break.
Inge stats : 0 for his last 16……2 for his last 30…..anyone want to bet will start the first game after the All Star break….
It’s all over in CLE, Toronto wins 7-1. Twins up on CHI 5-1 in the 7th. Now we need to mop up here.
6 more outs Mr. X…
Miggy, Victor, Boesch, Wells, ValVerde, Al Al. Max. Porcello, Peralta, Dirks, Kelly, Jackson (defense)…all making significant contributions in the first half
Penny, Benoit, helped………….
now can the second half swoon be prevented!!
oops forgot Avila…very good half!
Clownge
Inge is killing us in all phases of the game.
Inge……… just stop it.
8 Errors in limited playing time and a .184 batting average….Yep, that is our starting 3rd baseman….
And let’s not forget his offensive performance today. He is 0 for 3 with a K. If this were Hockey, the guy would be nothing by minus. Sigh… there is nothing new here. This what he is and what he has been for way too long. It is over, it’s been over and it’s time for Tigs to send Inge off like C. Monroe, A. Everette, S. Sizemore ….
It seemed to me that we gave up much quicker on Scott Sizemore than the other clowns you listed, and he was a much younger player and still showed some upside.
I don’t know if “gave-up” is accurate. He had significant ABs over two seasons, and we potentially received value and a much needed lefty reliever.
Because Sizemore was performing so poorly at 2B, I doubt that JL and DD ever even considered moving him to third. I think the change of scenery was just what Sizemore needed.
It’s not fair to say the Tigers “gave up” on Sizemore. They traded him. They traded a player at a position where we had several options (Sizemore, Worth, Rhymes, Raburn, Santiago, and eventually Guillen) for a player in a position of need. It was a smart move. Sizemore, despite his lacklustre performance as a Tiger, has a strong track record, and I don’t think anyone in the organization is surprised that he’s contributing in Oakland, just as Purcey is contributing in Detroit.
That’s insulting to guys like C. Monroe. Inge makes Monroe look like Cabrera. I’m struggling to think of a worst baseball player in the majors today.
True. Sorry CMo
Is Hosmer Amish?
No, he is Clownish
Valverde Jones is back in business
All aboard the Valverde-Jones Roller Coaster of Cardiac Arrest.
Hosmer – Thanks buddy.
Well, the one thing Inge can do is apply a tag. But that is about it.
YES!!!!!!!!!!! 1st place baby! Verlander was Verlander! Nice throw by Avila!
Also, good block by Inge and selling the tag!
Woo Hoo!!! Here’s hoping for a strong 2nd Half!
Nice series…..now lets remember last year theTigers came back flat from the break.. and dropped four to the Indians and were never heard from again………………..
Verlander will pitch the 1st game after the break. We’ll be going with a 4 man rotation for awhile too. So I’m not too worried.
Looking ahead to the 2nd half, the Tigers schedule looks like this:
Central Div: 46 games (12 CHI, 13 MN, 12 CLE, 9 KC)
Eastern Div: 11 games (4 TB, 7 BAL)
Western Div: 13 games (6 OAK, 4 LA, 3 TX)
Outside of the Central Division, which the Tigers have the best record, most of the tough teams won’t have to be faced. They still have to win a majority of the games against the also-rans of course, but on paper it looks pretty encouraging.
Add another dependable #5 starter and plug the black hole at 3B (we can live with Raburn if needs be, but not Inge) and we should be on our way.
Jhonny Peralta leads the Tigers hitters in WAR (3.3) heading into the all-star break. Very impressive. What is not so impressive? Inge at -0.6. Some noteables with a worse WAR than Inge: Aubrey Huff, Adam Dunn (duh), Alex Rios, Raul Ibanez