Game 2010.015: Tigers at Angels

Head over and read the post game analysis: That’s using all your outs

Were we not just in this same situation on Sunday? Tigers open up a series against a team that just ran off 3 wins by dropping the first two games. Fortunately Max Scherzer stepped up and the offense plated enough runs for a win that time. Can Jeremy Bonderman right the ship after his last rocky appearance?

Jered Weaver goes for the Angels. The Tigers fanned 13 times last night. Weaver has 21 K’s in 19 innings this season and only 3 walks. His only (and very minor) weakness so far is the 4 homers allowed. But with the Tigers only knocking out 8 homers this year it doesn’t really play into their strengths.

It’s a very lefty lineup:

  1. Jackson, CF
  2. Damon, LF
  3. Ordonez, RF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Guillen, DH
  6. Kelly, 3B
  7. Avila, C
  8. Santiago, SS
  9. Sizemore, 2B

Detroit Tigers at Los Angeles Angels – April 21, 2010 – MLB.com Gameday
Jeremy Bonderman photo courtesy of April A Taylor

Comments

85 responses to “Game 2010.015: Tigers at Angels”

  1. Packey Avatar

    5/9 lefties. And who ever said the Tigers needed a lefty bat? Ha

  2. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
    Tigers Fan in Toronto

    Migs has 17 RBI after the first 14 games…..could he get 150 or even break the Tigers record of 183?

    1. Chris Avatar
      Chris

      No because as the season gets later and teams are in pennant races..they will not pitch to him.

  3. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
    Tigers Fan in Toronto

    Could the Tigers convert Zoom Zoom and/or Perry to staters this year?

  4. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
    Tigers Fan in Toronto

    Hopefully the Tigers can get and play with a lead tonight……instead of trying for a comeback……exciting or not!

    1. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
      Tigers Fan in Toronto

      It would be nice to light up an opposition starter early for a change.

      1. Mark in Chicago Avatar
        Mark in Chicago

        It would be nice to light up an opposition pitcher, period.

  5. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
    Tigers Fan in Toronto

    It’s nice to see Damon coming around and earning his keep.

    1. Mike in CT Avatar
      Mike in CT

      Haha…is it too soon to start thinking what kind of package they’d get back for trading Johnny to a contender in July? … Not that I’m giving up on the season, just being realistic at this point. Can’t win in the AL with only one real power threat in your 1 through 9.

      1. Chris Avatar
        Chris

        Well you could win in the AL..w/out power if you had speed, great defense, excellent pitching, hit well w/ RISP, or did a good job making productive outs and wasted few scoring opportunities. Uh Oh! The Tigers appear to be bad at all of the things mentioned above…Realistically its hard to see how the Tigers will compete.

        Luckily, its early and things can turn around..I wouldn’t bet on it..but we can still ahve hope. great play by Kelly..if that were Inge we would have to hear how great of a fielder he was..except if it were Inge than Miggy would have to dig his bad throw out of the dirt

  6. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
    Tigers Fan in Toronto

    Here we go again!!!!!

  7. Rand Avatar
    Rand

    Stick a fork in ’em.

  8. David G Avatar
    David G

    It’s gonna be a long year.

    1. Keith (Mr. X) Avatar
      Keith (Mr. X)

      I hope so. I love October baseball.

  9. Keith (Mr. X) Avatar
    Keith (Mr. X)

    We need some Mr. Snappy. Got to hold them to 3 runs.

  10. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    The funny thing about the Bonderman reclamation project is…the guy had electric stuff..but had no mental toughness and was the opposite of a greg maddux when it came to “pitching”…Now, he has no “stuff” anymore..He has to “pitch” as opposed to just throw and rely on his arm…He has no chance of being successful..IMO..I sure, hope I am wrong..but, the reality is, that the guy had a great postseason and about a 1/2 a season of really good pitching….the rest of the time..all we heard was “he has a great arm” he just needs a changeup..or get through that 1st inning…in other words he wasn’t consistent or very good..when he had much better stuff…normally, guys who reinvent themselves were good before..he was all potential..He is a bullpen killer..all season he is going to struggle to get through 4-5 and he can not get LH out..he struggled when he threw 95-96 at getting LH out. What wishful thinking by the Tiger front office. i have more faith in Willis, than Bondo..

  11. ouchudied Avatar
    ouchudied

    We whine about Laird not hitting yet we have Avila who is batting .105. I’m not saying that we should whine about Avila, but the dude isn’t separating himself at all from Gerald.

    1. Chris Avatar
      Chris

      Laird hits a popup every time and we have to hear the name “G-Money” Yet, your point is quite accurate… We are lucky to be 7-8..if not for our 3-4 hitters and some suspect bullpens..we could be 4-11 or worse. At some point, you have to wonder..How bad of an offense are we? It is getting scary…our inability to hit starting pitching. You’d like to think its an anomaly..but we are getting to the 20 game mark…you would think we would have knocked around one starter by now..Has the opposition been 100% in quality starts against us?

      1. ouchudied Avatar
        ouchudied

        Are you sure you don’t mean 8-7?

  12. JCM Avatar
    JCM

    Damon has a no trade clause.
    Robetson nwas a bad choice for cut
    and Avila would be in AA in another team

  13. ryan Avatar
    ryan

    Hello, is this Mike Rizzo? Yes, what is your asking price for Ivan Rodriguez..?

  14. stephen Avatar
    stephen

    I swear I came to the site tonight to make Bilfer happy and not be a Nancy Negativity. But my goodness, a 6-9 of Kelly, Avila, Santiago, Sizemore is the 6 thru 9 of an expansion team not a Top Ten payroll team. I like Sizemore, I think he’s going to be good, but you lose the first two and then you start this as your bottom half of the order? This is baseball, so they could still win, but geez this is a ‘give-up’ bottom half. And we already lost the first two! How this team could spend this much money and end up starting this is beyond me.

    1. Mark in Chicago Avatar
      Mark in Chicago

      and as I read your comment, Don Kelly of the 6-9 “quadfecta” goes deep for our only run so far. Bizarre game, baseball

  15. ouchudied Avatar
    ouchudied

    That pitch was inside to Damon, just like the one last night was outside. But, those pitches are just too close to take with two strikes…

    1. kathy Avatar
      kathy

      Damon had every right to be angry. That pitch was so inside, it was pathetic the umpire called it a strike.

  16. Keith (Mr. X) Avatar
    Keith (Mr. X)

    Attaboy Kelly. Got our ice breaker. Bondo lookin good now too.

  17. ouchudied Avatar
    ouchudied

    What did Damon do? Beat the hell out of the ump with his bat?

  18. Mike in CT Avatar
    Mike in CT

    How bad was that called third strike?

    Gameday on my phone made it look REALLY inside.

    Glad Damon was ticked enough to get ejected.

    Maybe it rallies the troops, who knows….?

    1. ouchudied Avatar
      ouchudied

      It wasn’t as far inside as the one last night was outside, at least according to gameday.

  19. stephen Avatar
    stephen

    That was a comically bad call on that last pitch. Angels announcer talking about what a great pitch it was then graph shows it was six inches inside.

    1. Shane Trapped in Toledo Avatar
      Shane Trapped in Toledo

      Damon had a legitimate argument. The strike zone has been fleeting all series.

  20. Keith (Mr. X) Avatar
    Keith (Mr. X)

    Bonderman is cruising now.

    1. Keith (Mr. X) Avatar
      Keith (Mr. X)

      Now it’s time to knock Weaver out of the game.

  21. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
    Tigers Fan in Toronto

    Jackson strikes out too much to bat leadoff….leads the team with 20 before tonight.
    He should be dropped down in the order until he learns how to bat in the majors.

    1. Keith (Mr. X) Avatar
      Keith (Mr. X)

      His last AB was impressive. He has a few good AB’s every game. Besides the K’s, he’s doing everything great. He’s on pace to get 219 hits and 115 runs scored.

    2. Shane Trapped in Toledo Avatar
      Shane Trapped in Toledo

      I do not even know why you bother watching the Tigers play sometimes. Do you hate the sun because it is too hot?

      1. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
        Tigers Fan in Toronto

        In some places it is!

        1. Shane Trapped in Toledo Avatar
          Shane Trapped in Toledo

          Well then back it up with data. Even though Jackson has struck out 20 times he has a batting average of .317 and an OBP of .380. Therefore your statement that he strikes out too much to be a lead off hitter is not right because his OBP says he can be. And as a rookie that is pretty good.
          Just like 120 degrees is hotter than 70 degrees (Fahrenheit, of course, my Canadian friend). Too often on this site people make statements than cannot be quantified, backed up, or proven. It kills the fun.

          1. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
            Tigers Fan in Toronto

            I don’t dispute any of the other facts that you have stated!
            I just think that for his and the teams future going forward it would be better that he hit in the bottom third of the order until he could learn to cut his strikeouts down.

            1. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
              Tigers Fan in Toronto

              Jackson is 7th on the team in OBP as of right now…..and that would be a good spot for him in the batting order.

              1. andre Avatar
                andre

                “Jackson is 7th on the team in OBP as of right now…..and that would be a good spot for him in the batting order.”

                Not to split hairs, but he’s actually sixth among “regulars”; Santiago is 2nd, but with only 24 ABs and a career OBP that’s .120 lower than what he’s rocking right now. Inge is also ahead of him with an OBP that’s .80 above his norm. With Miggs, Maggs, Guillen and Damon being the others ahead of him (at the moment), you’re other lead-off options are probably just Damon – unless you don’t consider Guillen an injury risk.

                But let’s stick with your logic for a second: Cabrera is 1st in OBP…should he be leading off?

                Jackson is 3rd on the team in total bases behind Miggs & Maggs (great potential law firm name). Would cutting down on Ks be nice to see, absolutely. However, lets not drop the only guy with decent OBP + wheels (and SBs) so low that you’re counting on the Honorable Gerald Laird to drive him in. Mmmmk?

  22. Shane Trapped in Toledo Avatar
    Shane Trapped in Toledo

    Good for Miguel. He wanted nothing more than to crush Weaver and he almost knocked it out.

  23. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    Coincidentally enough I was just munching on my first piece of rally celery this season.

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      The rally celery! Of course! THAT’S why so many LOB so far, lack of rally celery.

  24. Keith (Mr. X) Avatar
    Keith (Mr. X)

    Weaver escapes doom again. Man, we’re getting soo unlucky with these line-drive DP’s.

  25. stephen Avatar
    stephen

    That was a baffling play by Sizemore. Spinning completely around without making tag. looked like he was avoiding contact at all costs.

  26. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    You know I’m getting to where I feel quite comfortable seeing EddieBo come in the game.

  27. ouchudied Avatar
    ouchudied

    Get out your rally monkey.

    1. ouchudied Avatar
      ouchudied

      Thats one feisty monkey

  28. Keith (Mr. X) Avatar
    Keith (Mr. X)

    Whooo! MIGGY!!!

  29. stephen Avatar
    stephen

    wowie, that ball was scalded.

  30. JOE Z Avatar
    JOE Z

    MOONSHOT

    what a boss

  31. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
    Tigers Fan in Toronto

    Has it come down yet??????

  32. stephen Avatar
    stephen

    Ah Inge, go back to the hotel.

  33. ouchudied Avatar
    ouchudied

    Laird to pinch hit for Avila… HA.

  34. Kris in SJC Avatar
    Kris in SJC

    Laird – really?

    I dare him to prove me wrong

  35. Cameron in Singapore Avatar
    Cameron in Singapore

    Is Leyland having Liard PINCH-HIT???

  36. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Is Jimmy wearing batting gloves?

  37. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Guillen gets thrown out there.

  38. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Seriously?

  39. ian (seattle) Avatar
    ian (seattle)

    YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!!!

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      That’s one way to reduce to number of LOB

  40. Keith (Mr. X) Avatar
    Keith (Mr. X)

    He could go all the way! LAIRD!!! HE SCORES!!

  41. ouchudied Avatar
    ouchudied

    Wow… on gameday that pitch is practically in the dirt.

    1. JOE Z Avatar
      JOE Z

      santiago was reaching far, no more than a foot off the ground. great batting

  42. Kris in SJC Avatar
    Kris in SJC

    WOO-HOO! A bit of good fortune after a bonehead play…finally have a lead after what seems weeks.

  43. Keith (Mr. X) Avatar
    Keith (Mr. X)

    Ramon baby Ramon!

  44. Joey in Portland OR Avatar
    Joey in Portland OR

    G-MONEY!!! Wow I thought he was gonna be toast! Great hustle, great slide!

  45. Mike in CT Avatar
    Mike in CT

    Ok Papa G, remember what Rodney did the last two nights…

  46. Brian Avatar
    Brian

    Morning from Italy! how nice to wake up to a rally…

  47. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    BTW, if you have MLB.tv, they’ve done a great job of syncing the video & audio…so you can hear Jim & Dan while muting the TV feed.

    1. Mike in CT Avatar
      Mike in CT

      Funny you say that, I have the MLB app on my iPhone and the radio is always about one out, or so, behind the gameday itself, which tends to be annoying.

    2. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      But then you have to hear the phrase “art of pitching” 170 times.

  48. Cameron in Singapore Avatar
    Cameron in Singapore

    Wow…Laird could end up scoring the winning run…

  49. Tigers Fan in Toronto Avatar
    Tigers Fan in Toronto

    This was a feelgood win!!!!

  50. Keith (Mr. X) Avatar
    Keith (Mr. X)

    YES! Papa Grande with the save! I love games like this. That’s why they say it ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings. I

  51. kathy Avatar
    kathy

    Victory! How sweet it is.

  52. jud Avatar
    jud

    it was so cold and the Tigers were so cold we left the stadium in the 8th went to the ESPN Zone in Disneyland….I must be in Disneyland because we walk in and the Ball Cabrerra hit just landed on the roof,,,,,then I knew we were in Disneyland cause Laird got on and scored the winning run…….hooray for Mickey Mouse right next door!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  53. Mike in CT Avatar
    Mike in CT

    Big win. Great job by Bonderman to settle down and the rest of the arms in the pen locking it down.

    Suffice to say, they were due a blooper find grass instead of glove.

  54. jud Avatar
    jud

    how about Bondo?? can he keep that up..his speed was down but I’m telling you sitting right there on a very cold California night (bout 46 ) he located for the most part and changed some speeds….he looked good!

  55. Joey in Portland OR Avatar
    Joey in Portland OR

    Great win, way to keep plugging away. Feels like we could have won each game in this series, so great to actually get the W tonight. Lets go out and get the split tomorrow with JV on the hill.

    And too bad Fuentes wasn’t back 2 nights ago!

    1. jud Avatar
      jud

      I live out here in LA and you think the Tiger fans hated Jones and Rodney Well Angels fans and Press loathe Fuentes…..and I never written the word loathe in my life

  56. jud Avatar
    jud

    I’m on Laird as much as anybody, ok maybe more ,but that break off second and that slide to get in was BIG TIME Baseball!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Packey Avatar

      Yeah, I’ve been pretty hard on him, as well, and there’s no denying the beauty in that. Props to Laird for that.

    2. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      Laird is one of the best baserunners on the team, strangely enough.

      And one of the best bunters.