Game 2009.144: Royals at Tigers

PREGAME: Tigers fans a couple weeks ago looked at the schedule and though, “dude we’re playing the Royals at home, that’s like a sweep,” and the dudes probably would have been thinking the Tigers would win. But then the Tigers lost. And Jarrod Washburn struggled in his last start. And Robinson Tejeda was bringing serious stuff in his last start and suddenly things don’t look so bright and shiny. At least not in this match-up.

Maybe the Tigers can learn from their last time out against the Royals though. Like maybe the hitters should try a different game plan against Tejeda and maybe Washburn should try a different game plan against the Royals. (oddly enough Washburn didn’t allow a homer in that game, just lots and lots of baserunners). It is noteworthy that Washburn has allowed homers in every game he’s pitched as a Tiger – except when facing the Royals.

Your, “Drinks are on Maggs, the boy is vesting tonight” lineup:

  1. Granderson, CF
  2. Guillen, LF
  3. Ordonez, RF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Huff, DH
  6. Avila, C
  7. Inge, 3B
  8. Santiago, 2B
  9. Everett, SS

Kansas City vs. Detroit – September 15, 2009 | MLB.com: Gameday

POSTGAME: Washburn is toast. Tejeda is good. Maggs is rich(er). Boras is a clown. At least nobody got hurt.

Comments

92 responses to “Game 2009.144: Royals at Tigers”

  1. Walter55 Avatar
    Walter55

    It is kind of crazy how many different lineups we have used over the last month or so about the only thing for sure everyday is Miguel is hitting cleanup. Would be really nice to do well in this series and put another game between us and the Minn/ChicWS before our big road trip.

  2. Forty Avatar
    Forty

    Congrats Magglio!

  3. lala Avatar
    lala

    Assburn better not blow it like he usually does

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      Jarrod and Ryan: The Burn Brothers

  4. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    If drinks were really on Maggs I would have been WAY pushing for him to get his ABs this season…

  5. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    This is a Lefty Lineup, so one can’t tell–any updates on Raburn’s knee (I’m gonna have to start calling him Baby Inge again if he’s gonna be playing with bad knees…)?

  6. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    When a player has a vesting contract like this, and reaches the requisite number of at bats, they really should call time for a very brief ceremony where they put an actual vest on him that he wears over his jersey the rest of the game.

    They already use St. Patrick’s Day-Paper-Hat-Green for the Masters and 1978-Mercury -Marquis-Yellow for the NFL Hall of Fame, so I’m thinking maybe Crossing-Guard-Orange would be the thing…

    1. Ron Avatar
      Ron

      I choked on my pizza when I read this. FYI.

  7. mcb Avatar
    mcb

    Not a good start

  8. mcb Avatar
    mcb

    Miner might become the 4th starter

  9. Brenden Avatar
    Brenden

    Washburn, proving yet again what a waste of minor league talent he really is.

  10. Brenden Avatar
    Brenden

    This guy has done more harm than good since becoming a Tiger…

  11. Andrew Avatar

    Dear Washburn,

    Please throw strikes. It’s the Royals, not murderers row.

    Thanks. 🙂

  12. Mark@HOU Avatar
    Mark@HOU

    I’m blaming Billfer for not updating the Anthem singer record. To paraphrase Bull Durham, you don’t “mess” with a winning streak.

    1. billfer Avatar
      billfer

      I interviewed a national anthem singer. I’ve gone wall to wall national anthem around this place lately. I’ve gotta put the blame on Washburn.

      1. Mark@HOU Avatar
        Mark@HOU

        OK 50-50%

        I will say Washburn seems to have the skin of a 12 year old. You could see him collapse after Mags misplayed that double.

  13. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Hmmm, Avila may not have any holes in his swing but there may be one in his catcher’s mitt, he should have some one take a look at that for him

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      Then again: don’t matter none

  14. Andrew Avatar

    Um, not those kind of strikes. Sheesh.

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      I’m blaming you. You didn’t specify.

      Actually Washburn is cleverly helping the team to keep utilizing their comeback powers while they got them cranked up

      1. Andrew Avatar

        Crap, my bad fellas 🙂

        You know, maybe Ordonez already started buying drinks for Washburn before the game & that is the real problem 😉

        1. Coleman Avatar
          Coleman

          Good point, maybe he drank until his leg felt better.

  15. Brenden Avatar
    Brenden

    Wow…unfreakin’ believable. Put this one in the lost column.

  16. Brenden Avatar
    Brenden

    He is all over the frickin’….

  17. Mcb Avatar
    Mcb

    They need to just shut him downfor theseason. This has been pathetic

  18. Joey in Portland Or Avatar
    Joey in Portland Or

    Has Washburn ever been as bad as he has since becoming a Tig?

  19. Mike in CT Avatar
    Mike in CT

    Hard to figure what’s more infuriating, the wind-blown double to Willie freaking Bloomquist or a four-pitch walk to GIDP machine Miguel Olivo. Oh right, the homer by Callaspo.

    Are the Royals in this team’s head?

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      At least we can thank Avila for the passed ball, he saved us from the indignity of a Callaspo grand slam…

  20. Andrew Avatar

    Okay, I’ll admit it – I thought the Washburn trade would be a plus when it took place. I might have even said so here.

    Right now, I don’t care if I ever see him pitch in a Tigers uniform again. This has worked out about as well as when we picked up Farnsworthless a second time around.

    1. Brenden Avatar
      Brenden

      I concur.

  21. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    In retrospect the DeJesus AB to lead off the game may turn out to be today’s highlight…

  22. jason Avatar
    jason

    OK, so any time now we can DL Washburn.
    Is there any doubt now that Porcello is our 3rd playoff starter?

    1. Shane Trapped in Toledo Avatar
      Shane Trapped in Toledo

      You are right. Washburn can hardly walk, let alone pitch. Either pump his knee so full of cortisone that he cannot feel below his hips and becomes serviceable or put him on the DL.
      The question is whether the Tigers can call up another pitcher. Obviously that pitcher could not be on the playoff roster, but they could hopefully make a few starts. Is there anyone who could do that with the minor league season is over? Or could the Tigers make a Matt Stairs like pick-up and bring in somebody to start a few times?

  23. Brenden Avatar
    Brenden

    What the crap is Guillen swining at? Seriously? Is this how we are going to end the season, losing six straight to the Royals?

  24. Mcb Avatar
    Mcb

    If we get swept again here any into the baggy dome with only a 3 game lead we are in serious trouble.

  25. Andrew Avatar

    Washburn owned the Tigers when he pitched against them. Now when he pitches everyone owns the Tigers.

  26. Andrew Avatar

    Coleman – the rabbit is pitching!

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      Zach Miner looks like a rabbit

    2. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      I’m not sure if it works this early in the game…

      1. Andrew Avatar

        We’ll just have to hope, then.

  27. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    It’s gonna be tough to make up 4 runs against Cy Tejada.

    Oh well, at least we have the Vest Ceremony to look forward to…

  28. Mike in CT Avatar
    Mike in CT

    What really depresses me, the Tigers are in a pennant race, meanwhile they’re in life-or-death struggles against teams (Oakland, Toronto, KC, etc.) that were dead a long time ago and the players are just trying to pad their stats so they get a contract next year.

    …and the only way for this night to get better?

    Zach Miner!

    Ugh.

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      Hey now…Respect the Rabbit!

  29. Brenden Avatar
    Brenden

    I just looked at the probable pitchers for the rest of this series and can’t help but have a bad feeling about it…

  30. ouchudied Avatar
    ouchudied

    Hey guys, its not that bad. Its not like we are getting no-hit or anything. Oh, wait…

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      Yeah but we’re making him throw tons of pitches, so he’ll have to leave in the 7th with a no-hitter going.

      Ha ha! How demoralizing!

      1. ouchudied Avatar
        ouchudied

        That has sadly been my train of thought too many times this year. On the bright side, we did just get a hit, and one from Curtis. They need to get to Tejada this inning before its too late.

  31. Dave111 Avatar
    Dave111

    There is some satisfaction in the thought that Washburn should have a very hard time convincing any contender thay might consider signing him that he can be trusted to pitch in a pennant race. I hear the Pirates and Nationals are looking for mediocre lefthanded starters.

  32. Andrew Avatar

    Earn that vest now, Magglio.

  33. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Santiago should’ve tagged on that one and hoped Betancourt would flub the throw, that seems to be our best play

    1. Coleman Avatar
      Coleman

      Then again: don’t matter none

  34. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Hey, where’s that silly rabbit?

    1. Andrew Avatar

      Apparently eating a bowl full of Trix.

      1. Coleman Avatar
        Coleman

        Silly Rabbit! Runs are for Royals!

  35. ouchudied Avatar
    ouchudied

    I rarely call a game over in the fourth inning but this one is done. Just changed the channel. Have a good night, folks.

  36. jason Avatar
    jason

    Turn out the lights.

  37. Mike in CT Avatar
    Mike in CT

    the only question left….which position player pitches the 8th and 9th?

  38. Andrew Avatar

    This calls for the perfect cheer. U-G-L-Y you don’t got no alibi, you’re UGLY, you’re UGLY.

    That’s what this game is looking like – UGLY with a big Ugh.

  39. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    To add insult to injury today they announced the Opening Day schedule for next season. We open on the road…at Kansas City. Whee!

  40. Stephen Avatar
    Stephen

    Hey, missed yesterday! Wasn’t yesterday great!

  41. Andrew Avatar

    Do you suppose we can win for Ernie tomorrow night?

  42. Andrew in Toronto Avatar
    Andrew in Toronto

    So, if Miner is only capable of pitching 2 innings now, who is going to take Washburn’s place in the rotation?

  43. Randolph Avatar
    Randolph

    Maybe in tomorrow’s Detroit News Lynn Henning will do an article about Assburn’s stocking dropping tremendously in one month…

  44. Stephen Avatar
    Stephen

    85 wins takes the AL Central. And that’s with the Twins going 13-5. There’s no way the Tigers don’t get to 85.

    1. Andrew Avatar

      Thanks for the info. Right now that doesn’t quite help us choke down this game, but it’s a start 🙂 Honestly, if it wasn’t the friggin’ Royals I wouldn’t be all too upset. I just can’t stand losing so many games to a perennial Division bottom feeder.

  45. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Obviously the Mariners knew a lot more than we did. Now I see why the USS Mariner was so pumped about the deal. I don’t think French is all that, Washburn was worth the risk. Didn’t go our way, but props to DD for taking a stab. The Huff move already won us 1 game. We’ll win the Central even with his terrible pitching, just gonna need the kid if we expect to go any further than that.

    (Don’t forget that Twinkies are sans Morneau for the year)

    1. Stephen Avatar
      Stephen

      Uh, don’t we think Huff’s suckiness has cost us more than one game?

      1. Kathy Avatar
        Kathy

        Oh, hush, stephen!

        1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
          Kevin in Dallas

          Hmm, well, considering his OPS+ is 59, then yeah, he might have a negative WARP since he’s been here. I’m not sure if anyone calculates that in-season. Though I wasn’t against that move when it was made.

          1. Jeff Avatar
            Jeff

            He’s at -0.4 WAR with the Tigers, according to Fangraphs.

  46. Randolph Avatar
    Randolph

    and that’s the official end of the game…disgusting to see so many men left on base each and every game.

  47. Walter55 Avatar
    Walter55

    Well I have said it before that I understand why the Washburn move was made and I was fine with what he gave up to take a chance to really improve our staff. But it sure has not worked out as Washburn has been a train wreck. I don’t even think you can pitch him any more as he has been that bad. As for Huff he has not been great either but it is not look like he replaced somebody that was doing any better.

    Also what is Alfredo Figaro’s status is he healthy enough to pitch or did he finish the year on the DL?

  48. Kathy Avatar
    Kathy

    What a butt-kicking game so far. It’s embarassing.

  49. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
    Kevin in Dallas

    Here’s something fun – currently there are 3 highlight videos on the iPhone At-Bat application:

    “Callaspo’s three-run shot” (pretty legit)

    “DeJesus’ three-run shot” (nice)

    “Guillen’s RB single”

    Which one doesn’t belong with the others?

  50. Stephen Avatar
    Stephen

    Tigers currently only +9 runs for the entire season meaning they are one blowout short of achieving the pretty awesome feat of making the playoffs with a negative run differential. Seriously, that would be sort of awesome.

    1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
      Kevin in Dallas

      Their X W-L is gonna go to 72-72, which generally leaves 2 explanations for being 10 games over. Incredible luck, or incredible managing.

      1. Stephen Avatar
        Stephen

        Yeah, I thought they would go 76-86 this year, the numbers suggest 82-80, and yet they will go 86-76 and win the division. Go figure. (Or more to the point, don’t figure).

      2. Coleman Avatar
        Coleman

        A 3rd explanation: the imbalance in home vs road record, even with the high number of walk off wins.

        The X W-L is based on Runs Scored vs Runs Allowed; in home victories you have 8 innings of run scoring and 9 innings of run allowing, except in the case of 9th (or extra) inning walk off wins–but even then your scoring is cut short when that rally-killing-winning-run scores and ends the game.

        This also excuses somewhat the Tigers low ranking in some of the quantitative offensive categories. Their home record is actually costing them several plate appearances per game.

        I’m not sure why it took me so long to realize this…

        1. Coleman Avatar
          Coleman

          OK, that actually checks out. I calculated the X W-L for our home games: 55.12%, or 40 – 32 (we are 47 – 25). We are actually slightly worse in road games than we should be 30 – 42 (vs 33 – 39).

          This works for any team with an unusually good home record. Yankees? 93 – 53, X W-L 86 – 60. Great managing? More likely it’s that 51 – 23 home record.

    2. Brenden Avatar
      Brenden

      Playoffs? We are a KC and Metro-dome sweeps away from being out of 1st Place. I have little concern about the playoffs, I’m just hoping for a few wins in the next couple games.

  51. Stephen Avatar
    Stephen

    Other fun fact: Blue Jays are +13 and are 65-79.

  52. mark_in_gr Avatar
    mark_in_gr

    Can we please stick a fork in Bonderman already?

  53. Stephen Avatar
    Stephen

    I was wrong! Tigers may hit minus run differential in next 24 hrs!

  54. mark_in_gr Avatar
    mark_in_gr

    Was it just me, or did I notice Illitch’s arm reaching around to strangle DD in the team pic today?

  55. Stephen Avatar
    Stephen

    The firm of Washburn, Willis, Robertson, and Bonderman is billing 40 million dollars this year.

    (Yes, I know the Tigers are only paying a fraction of Washburn’s).

    1. MCM Avatar
      MCM

      Are they hiring?

  56. Stephen Avatar
    Stephen

    The firm of Washburn, Willis, Robertson, and Bonderman have won 3 games for the Tigers.

  57. Stephen Avatar
    Stephen

    And yet they have a 90% of making the playoffs! The 09 Tigers are an enigma wrapped in a mystery.

    1. Jeff Avatar
      Jeff

      Doesn’t that say more about their competitors than them?

      1. Kevin in Dallas Avatar
        Kevin in Dallas

        I’m just enjoying the ride. Most down here in DFW are checking out on the Rangers.

  58. Joey in Portland OR Avatar
    Joey in Portland OR

    At least we won’t need Rodney tonight…

    1. Kathy Avatar
      Kathy

      He’s suspended til tomorrow.