Sheffield on waivers isn’t news

Gary Sheffield was placed on waivers today. This is a non-event. The only reason this is currently noteworthy is that it didn’t happen earlier. The only way it becomes noteworthy is if a team puts in a claim.

Just because Sheffield is on waivers does not mean he is going anywhere. These are revocable waivers and it is a procedural thing that needs to be done for the team to be able to trade Sheffield. Many players are put on waivers, and Sheffield is likely one of many Tigers.

Sheffield is in the lineup tonight because he is still on the team, and will most likely be when the waiver period expires on Thursday afternoon.

Comments

45 responses to “Sheffield on waivers isn’t news”

  1. greg Avatar
    greg

    Some good points, but I think its still news. The timing of it immediately after Sheffields veiled comments that he wants to be traded(an interpretation yes, but a common one) seem to make it newsworthy. I know that Olney, and a few others respected in the Saber community, thought it was newsworthy when Manny Ramirez was placed on waivers a couple years ago.

  2. Kathy Avatar
    Kathy

    It’s significant if we can get some pitching because what we have doesn’t cut it.

  3. Mike R Avatar

    Insignificant news to me. He’s probably one of 10+ Tigers that were placed on waivers.

  4. greg Avatar
    greg

    All placed there for certain reasons…and some not placed there for certain reasons. I doubt its arbitrary.

  5. Mike F Avatar
    Mike F

    I remember a broadcast (ages ago) where Al Kaline told George Kell that he had be placed on waivers almost every year of his career.

  6. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    I think someone wants Sheffield, and it ain’t Detroit. The question for me is whether the Tigers just want him off the books or whether he suddenly looks so good to some contender with a hitting void that they’ll actually give something for him.

  7. greg Avatar
    greg

    Mike F. – Did it ever come the day after he requested a trade?

    Sean – I think the Tigers want to find out, and odds are they want to find out at least slightly more than they did a week ago.

  8. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Greg – Just a hunch, but I think the Tigers already found out and just couldn’t get the deal done before the July deadline. My hunch is fueled by Dombrowski’s shrug (reported in an article).

  9. ron Avatar
    ron

    If he clears waivers and/or eventually traded, It should be interesting to hear him shoot off his mouth about his ex team. It may take him a while, but he will.

  10. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    hHaHa yeah, shoot his mouth off that will be–oh wait I wonder if he reads blogs? Eww he’s not gonna be too happy about the Sheff-Inge identical twin routine is he?

    Oh like I care what he thinks anyway. I mean, I’m Coleman! Sean Coleman! (although the guys back in the big IL just call me Sean C.)

  11. ron Avatar
    ron

    Is that Sean C’s ole man?

  12. Mike R Avatar

    I am not afraid to say that I don’t follow roughly 83% of Coleman’s posts here.

  13. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    “I am not afraid to say that I don’t follow roughly 83% of Coleman’s posts here.”

    Mike, 17% equals Sheffield’s BA during Verlander starts, and Gary’s still starting, er, being platooned, and still has a job, so I think you’ll be OK. Even if I did just place you on revocable waivers.

  14. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Ron, I am the product of parthogenesis, so Coleman cannot be my father, although he does seem to like it when I call him Big Daddy.

  15. Kyle J Avatar

    I still hold out hope DD can find someone to take Sheffield off our hands for a token minor leaguer and pay some fraction of his salary through the end of the next year.

    No one’s going to take him on waivers because they’d have to take over his full contract, right? If they did that’d be a good thing. If they don’t, he could still be traded.

    That’d save face for Illitch/DD and get Sheffield out of D-Town. Move Magglio to DH to keep him healthy for his option years.

  16. Ryan P Avatar
    Ryan P

    My understanding is that if someone makes a claim on Sheffield, DD has 48 hours to trade him to that team (I’m not sure what happens if it can’t get done?). And if he clears waivers, he can be traded to any team. I’m missing like 80% of the details of the process, but whatever.

  17. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    What impact does Sheffield’s limited no-trade clause have on this whole waivers thing?

  18. Ryan P Avatar
    Ryan P

    The same effect it would have on a regular trade, I believe. I’m sure he wouldn’t block a trade though.

  19. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    I was at a Rays site called DRAYSBAY looking over the Sheffield talk. Interesting. If anyone knows of any other enemy blogs with (somewhat realistic and reasonable) talk of acquiring Sheff from the Tigers, share it.

    Boy, do other baseball blogs look stupid – graphically – compared to DTW. I like the clean, uncluttered, easy to follow style here.

  20. ron Avatar
    ron

    Bilfer will soon be publishing “Late Night Musings With Coleman”, which can be purchased on this site for a ham sandwich.

  21. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    “The same effect it would have on a regular trade, I believe. I’m sure he wouldn’t block a trade though.”

    Not even to a small market contender like, say, the Twins or Brewers? I don’t think that the Twins or Brewers want him, let alone need him, or that the Tigers would send him to a division rival (wouldn’t trouble me). Just the only examples I have of trades he might block.

    Why can’t the Red Sox just take him? They have plenty of money.

  22. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    “Late Night Musings With Coleman”

    If you ask me, it ought to be premium content. Billfer is missing out on an opportunity to make the blog pay for itself and then some.

  23. ron Avatar
    ron

    Sean C., my dictionary is getting dog eared because of you. Your in direct contrast to your adoptive father’s flowing and easily read prose.

  24. jim-mt Avatar
    jim-mt

    My limited understanding of waivers:

    Team with worst record in AL that claims him has priority before other teams.

    If deal can’t be worked out, Tigers could pull him back.

    If they put him on wire a second time, they can’t.

    If not claimed by any team, they can trade him anywhere.

    If claimed, new team pays him (yea!). And I suppose that could be negotiated.

  25. ron Avatar
    ron

    Because of Gary, I sure am learning a lot about the Waiver system. Kind of like when you get a disease and you study up on it so you know all your options because you realize it just isn’t going to go away by itself.

  26. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    “Kind of like when you get a disease”

    Ha! We’ve all come down with the Sheffield Waivers, characterized by clubhouse tumors and involuntary, incessant trembling with anticipation.

  27. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Ron, your obtuse and jejune statements regarding my subjunctive forebears leave me questioning my own anthropomorphism.

  28. ron Avatar
    ron

    Yikes! Are you calling me fat?

  29. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    “Yikes! Are you calling me fat?”

    Relax, honey. All I said was that those jeans look a little bit tight on you. Jeez. So sensitive.

  30. ron Avatar
    ron

    That’s more like it. Go Tigers.

  31. jim-mt Avatar
    jim-mt

    last 2 entries by Ron & Sean-
    dictionary score
    Ron –zero–
    Sean –3–

    I think I need a drink.

  32. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Have a drink, Jim. It’s 5 o’clock somewhere.

    That’s not a negative 3 up there for me, is it? ‘Cause I smoked him, man.

  33. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    you guys may have gotten off topic a bit here.

  34. Andrew in Toronto Avatar
    Andrew in Toronto

    Also off topic: Looks like Zumaya is headed to the DL to make way for Jones (and maybe out for the year?)

    Tigers manager Jim Leyland said Zumaya — who didn’t get an out Tuesday — was having a medical exam after the game. Zumaya had surgery on his pitching shoulder in the off-season, and lately he has been impeded by ailments in his upper pitching arm.

    “I can assure you, I’m not going to have Zumaya for a while, even if everything checks out all right,” Leyland said. “All I know is there is a problem. Joel is not himself. I can see it in his face. I can see it in his demeanor.”

    Asked how long Zumaya might be out, Leyland said, “Right now, I don’t feel comfortable pitching Joel. I’m not talking about because of results. I’m talking about because something is not right.

    “It’s going to be next year until he gets back to 100%.”

  35. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Jason Beck reports that Gary Sheffield has been traded to the Boston Said Rocks for 4 anagrams and a pun to be named later.

    A look at the prospects:

    Fey Dishrag Elf – Career AAAA guy. Real eye for fashion, though.
    Gashed Firefly – Bright future, but health is a concern.
    Flash Edgy Fire – Said to be a potential Sheffield clone.
    Fry His Deaf Leg – Both the acquisition and the player are hard to fathom.

  36. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    “you guys may have gotten off topic a bit here.”

    We can’t help ourselves, Mark. Help us out with some authentic Sheffield content. Here, I’ll try.

    Sentiment aside, will it help the team to unload Sheffield? Would the Tigers be likely to miss him? Is it even remotely possible that the Tigers could acquire a player or players in a Sheffield deal? With who? Tigers needs, names?

  37. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Zumaya to the DL, then maybe Toledo, Lakeland, even. Not the biggest surprise, eh?

  38. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    I think it’s helps them if Sheffield is gone. He’s not producing, and the only reason they run him out there is out of “respect” for what he’s accomplished and the dollar signs on his contract. There are a number of bats you could drop into the lineup and get more from:

    Joyce
    Clete
    Larish
    Thames
    Raburn
    Clevlen

    At best you get better production, at a minumum, you find out if some of those kids can hit and make adjustments at the ML level. Either way you start answering questions for 2009.

  39. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Mark, do you think it would be premature to put Maggs in at DH upon Sheffield’s (uncertain) departure? Or is it DH by committee for the rest of the season? Joyce or Thomas full-time in left with Marcus as DH?

    I guess I wouldn’t mind seeing Thomas/Thames LF – Joyce/Ordonez RF – Ordonez/Thames DH. Or just let the young guys play the OF and plug Marcus in occasionally.

  40. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    And since Raburn’s name came up, where does his future – if any – with Detroit lie? If his infield glove was at all inspiring, you’d think he might fit in at 3B or as the post-Polanco 2B. But it’s not. Does his power give him the edge over Thomas as an outfield backup? I don’t think so, but I could be wrong.

  41. Chief Monday Avatar
    Chief Monday

    Raburn is are super sub scrub.

  42. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    No starter potential for Raburn, Chief? I’ll admit I’ve been a bit disappointed in him. With hindsight, it looks like hanging on to Omar Infante might have been better. Maybe the Braves will take Renteria back for Infante.

  43. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    Both good questions, Sean. Maggs is a capable right fielder, but any time you can add some speed to the vast expanses of Comerica, you have to consider. From what I’ve seen Thomas and Joyce aren’t huge upgrades over Maggs, they don’t seem to take great routes to the ball. They all catch what they get to, though.

    So I guess I’d prolly DH Maggs, if only to get a more complete analysis of what the kids are capable of as players and keep Maggs healthy.

    I have no idea what Raburn’s future holds. We gave up on Infante who’s currently putting up an 824 OPS for the Braves. So my guess is Raburn does the same thing for some other NL team.

  44. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Mark, as far as the outfield goes, I find myself in the strange position of thinking that the Tigers maybe should and maybe will trade one of my favorite Tigers – Marcus Thames.

    I lean, as you do, toward seeing as much as possible of Joyce and Thomas, and Raburn and Clevlen as well, in the outfield in the 43 games left.

  45. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    I would not object to trading Marcus either. This team needs pitching (particular a solid reliever, as Marcus would likely return), not RH-power bats. We have like 20 of those, we’re a frigging softball team.

    I like the idea of adding Thomas/Joyce/Raburn/Clevlen to the lineup for balance to the overall team. They either bat lefty, can run the bases more aggressively (although I have been thoroughly unimpressed with Clete’s baserunning. He’s got good wheels but does not appear to have great instincts on the bases….) or have some element that we’re lacking. Anything to give opponents something different to worry about.

    If Marcus needs to go in a package deal to get starting pitching or a more athletic outfielder/shortstop, so be it. The only guys I am against trading are Granderson, Cabrera, Verlander and maybe Maggs.