Game 71: Tigers at Giants

PREGAME: The Tigers will try to embark on a new winning streak with Kenny Rogers taking the mound. Rogers has only allowed 3 earned runs over his last 4 starts. He’s still not striking many out, he only has 34 on the season, but he’s cutting down on the walks which were hurting him early in the season and running up his pitch count.

For the Giants it will be lefty Jonathan Sanchez. Sanchez is another guy fanning a batter an inning, and limiting homers to the tune of 6 in 80.1 innings this year with no one taking him yard since May 16th. In his last start he snapped a string of 5 consecutive quality starts when he was touched for 7 runs in 7 innings.

Your lineup for tonight:

  1. Renteria, SS
  2. Polanco, 2B
  3. Guillen, 3B
  4. Ordonez, RF
  5. Cabrera, 1B
  6. Thames, LF
  7. Rodriguez, C
  8. Granderson, CF
  9. Rogers, P

Notice that Pudge is starting for the second game in a row. According to Beck it isn’t the end of the alternating catcher plan, but Leyland thinks Inge is still bothered by the oblique.

DET @ SFG, Tuesday, June 17, 2008 Game Preview – Baseball-Reference.com

Game Time 10:15

POSTGAME: Very nice bounce back win for the boys and combined with a Cleveland loss the Tigers are now tied for 3rd place. Sanchez was some kind of filthy as he fanned 6 in his first time through the lineup. But the Tigers made some adjustments and got to him a little after being no hit for 5 innings.

  • Kenny Rogers brought it again tonight going 7 strong yet again and keeping the team inthe game when there was no margin for error.
  • Marcus Thames is some kind of wonderful. He got down to his last AB with a full count before crushing a ball to centerfield for a 5 game, 8 hit, homer streak.
  • Edgar Renteria gets on base 3 times including his 2000th hit.
  • Ryan Raburn comes through with the big pinch hit homer and Jeff Larish gets a pinch hit RBI as well.
  • More excellent defense today with diving plays from Brent Clevlen and Marcus Thames and some nice picking by Guillen and Renteria as well.

Comments

283 responses to “Game 71: Tigers at Giants”

  1. Mike R Avatar

    I know I’m a E-Rent defender, but I’m already tired of this nonsense of him leading off ever. What part of his .273/.318/.366 line screams “lead off hitter!” to Uncle Jimmy?

    I’m still kind of hesitant about tonight. I think Thames’ HR streak ends tonight.

  2. jason Avatar
    jason

    No way, Thames is continuing!

  3. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    Craig was at last night’s game and is heading there tonight. He wanted me to post this about his experience:

    A Great Baseball Experience

    I disagree with MarkSF, who notes his distaste for Giants fans. I have lived in the Bay area since 1989 and have seen the Giants have their ups and downs. These folks are dedicated baseball fans. They turn out to the games. Monday’s game was freezing, like the old Candlestick and they drew 33,000. The Bay area knows basesball, The Bay area seems to be a natural talent pool for MLB, and game is embraced year round at all levels. Little League is played 12 month a year(Summer Ball, Fall Ball, Winter Ball) families make the annual pilgrimage to Scottsdale in droves for spring training. In addition I would argue that you will find as many fans keeping score at a Giants game as in any ballpark in America. If you ask an older San Franciscan to name the greatest events in the history of the city, you will get one of two answers; the discovery of gold in the foothills, and the Day the Giants moved to San Francisco.

    The Ball Park is unbelievable with the Bay beyond the right field wall. Facilities for kids are great. Sure they serve Chardonnay and Starbucks but that’s only marketing to the demographic. They also serve a great hot dog and a reasonably priced beer. Beyond the confines of the Ball Park you have a multitude of good restaurants and pubs to serve you before and after the game. I say this because compared to attending a game in area 51(Oakland Coliseum) this is like Disneyland. I had a great time with the fans. They were awed by Marcus Thames’ monster blasts. One fans comment. “You need to let him out of the house more.” Maybe Mark was sitting in a bad section, or I might be lucky but I had great banter with those around me and I can’t wait to get to the ball park today. I even had a beer bought for me “Because your boys swept the Dodgers”. My girls and I will be sitting in the right field porch Row 2 to cheer on Mags with McCovey Cove at our backs. Go Kenny, Go Tigers, Let’s start a new streak.

  4. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    On Thames homer streak it’s just a matter of time until he hits an 0 for 20 streak with 12 K’s. Not because he sucks, but because that’s baseball. And everyone will blame it on him going for homers all the time and Chris Shelton’s name will be invoked.

  5. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    Thames is a very very good platoon player. His HR/AB ratio over the past 4 years is ridiculous, but Leyland has made all the right calls with this guy.

  6. Chief Monday Avatar
    Chief Monday

    I want to see Rodney redeem himself Tonight. I wonder if he’ll be available.

  7. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    I don’t expect an extraordinary amount of production from Marcus just because he’s hot as of late. He will of course regress to the “normal Marcus”, as I believe he’s beyond the age that you break out to show your true potential. However, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the “normal Marcus”. I just always have thought he needed more time as an every day player and it’s great to see him having the time of his career. He just has that mild mannered, friendly giant thing going for him that makes him so likeable. Not to mention he has the humility of Barry Sanders, the power of Cecil Fielder, and the curves of Halle Berry. Wait.

  8. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Time to start a new winning streak. I hope Kenny can pitch great again, and actually get the win.

  9. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Kenny gets a ribby today.

  10. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    Similar numbers that apparently scream “pudge at leadoff”, Mike. It’s a joke, just learn to accept it.

  11. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Isn’t it Inge’s turn today? WTF?

  12. Mike R Avatar

    Billfer: I can’t wait for all the comps to Chris Shelton.

    Ken: Pretty spot on. I’m not convinced he’s an everyday player on a club that has world series aspirations, but there’s no better option for the Tigers and I’m anxious to see him prove me wrong the rest of the year. He should be starting in LF 4 out of every 5 games the rest of the way.

    Mark: I know it’s a joke, but it’s just so annoying. I’m not asking Leyland to peruse Baseball Prospectus 10 hours a day but, c’mon.

  13. Mike R Avatar

    Adam, the answer is in the game post. Leyland feels like Inge’s oblique is still bothering him. I wonder “how can you tell?” since all his check swings and K’s look the same to me whether he’s healthy or not.

  14. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    Mike, it’s completely annoying. I think Leyland reads this board and does it to screw with us. It’s the only explanation. Even Ozzie Guillen put Swisher in the leadoff spot for a while because of his high OBP.

  15. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    Very nice play by Guillen on the short hop. Terrific play, just like a real third baseman!

  16. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Ah, yes. I have a habit of not reading past the lineup unless it’s a big chunk of text.

  17. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    The SF announcers just pointed out that Marcus’ last 7 hits are HR.

    Wow

  18. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Everyone strikes out. But Kenny hits a homer.

  19. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    My god, Sanchez is pitching out of his mind right now. I was really dreading this. Hopefully Kenny can blank the Giants tonight.

  20. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    [insert dirty Sanchez joke] is sharp right now, the SF announcers pointed out the tough hitting backdrop behind a lefty pitcher right now.

    Hopefully results are better once the sun goes down.

  21. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    Sanchez has looked far more impressive than Lincecum did last night.

  22. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    Mike – It’s probably Edgar’s 426 OBP against lefties this year that screams leadoff hitter. It’s not like he does it against righties.

  23. Dylan Avatar

    Sanchez is dealing, wow. Let’s hope we can squeak something out… Grrr, would be a lot nicer to already have one in this series…

  24. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    I think this is the game out of this series that we were supposed to have lost.

  25. Mike R Avatar

    Thanks Bill, I didn’t notice that earlier. It makes some sense, then.

    But, still. Comment of the night isn’t coming from this blog, it’s from Rod Allen:

    “That just shows you how in-depth this Tigers coaching staff is.”

  26. Tbone Avatar
    Tbone

    Sanchez has no-no material tonight. Let’s see what happens the second time through.

  27. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Well, maybe Kenny’ll plunk him.

  28. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Interesting post from Craig on how experiences at the same game can differ so much.

    Ken in Cincy (the only way I dare try to spell it), you’re a funny man.

    Keep me posted, please, guys and gals.

  29. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    Burris vs. Rogers and Pudge should be fun. That guy can fly.

  30. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Knotted at nuthin through 3.

  31. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Thank you, Adam. How’s Kenny looking? Like he can last? That guy has quietly put together quite a run.

  32. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    Tigers need to just try to get Sanchez to spend his pitches tonight. Hopefully Kenny can keep it at 0-0 and the Tigers can get to the SF bullpen.

  33. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    Four innings and no ball out of the infield for the Tigers.

  34. rings Avatar

    Keven – you’re crazy.
    Everyone always accuses Thames of being a part-timer because no one’s given him the job, despite his production. Except he’s been completely consistent his entire career: He’s a .250 +/- guy with high K’s and a HR avery 14-15 ABs. Adam Dunn is making All Star games and Thames is regarded as a “platoon” guy. Same production.

    This is one of Leyland’s mistakes, in my opinion: Play Marcus. He’s a good Joe and has historically great power ratios. He’s a huge thread in a lineup that’s too often lacking this season.

    To put in in perspective: yesterday, we’d have been entering the 9th facing our 11th shutout, were it not for Thames and blown call at home plate.

  35. Tbone Avatar
    Tbone

    Sanchez unhittable through 4…

  36. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    “Hey, this guy’s got it goin’ on. Let’s help him out a bit and just swing at the first pitch every time. K?” OK.

  37. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Rogers has been okay. Throwing strikes. Usually has a guy on base the whole inning though.

  38. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Did I ever mention I freaking hate the Molinas?

  39. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    I’m really coming around on Ordonez as an above average RFer. (and as I type that the SF color guy says “If Ordonez plays here every day he probably catches that ball).

  40. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    rings,

    There is one significant difference between Thames and Dunn – Dunn takes a ton of walks. I like Marcus too and think he should get a shot to play every day, but he’s not Adam Dunn.

  41. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    Rowand looks so uncomfortable in his batter’s stance. Like he’s got a pole up his…. Sanchez.

  42. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    Thames career OBP is 308, Dunn’s is .382. It’s not the same production.

  43. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Knotted at nada through 4.

  44. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    We can sure use another 14 pitch leadoff walk from Cabrera right now

  45. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Sanchez – 50 pitches thru 4 – not good

  46. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    Sean,

    You’re pretty hilarious yourself. (Sean and Ken sittin in a tree….shut up guys) I’m befuddled, however, over your fear of spelling the word Cincinnati considering I’m pretty sure you’re my college English professor guised as some guy from Illinois. Was I sposed ta capitalize English teach?

    As to the game, I’m pretty sure I just saw someone accidentally spill their scalding hot Starbucks into their lap and upon jumping up in horror, knocked over a lady’s Merlot onto her white sundress.

  47. Tbone Avatar
    Tbone

    Sanchez filthy through five…

  48. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    Sanchez is at 63 pitches through 5. Yikes. Gotta make him work, boys. It would be nice to at least get a ball out of the infield, much less a hit.

  49. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Sean and Ken – we are in San Fran right now 🙂

  50. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Being no-hit through 4 1/2. I don’t think Sanchez can do it though, unless he gets his pitch count down a little. He’s already at 63.

  51. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    This series blows…. The Bay area is a hopeless trap of losing for the Tigers…. Can’t leave soon enough.

  52. greg Avatar
    greg

    FWIW, Dunn in LF makes Marcus Thames look like a graceful swan.

  53. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    I’m sorry, Ken, but I’m already betrothed to Mark in Chicago. Let’s just be friends.

    The Tigers got to Lincecum. What’s with this Sanchez guy? What’s he trying to prove? He’s gotta make a mistake soon.

  54. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    We have to find a way to win this game. White Sox won and Indians lost.

    Gotta win, and win tomorrow.

  55. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    Very nice inning by Kenny, he’s definitely doing his part.

  56. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Kenny looks good again (so far). We just have to scratch out a run or two.

  57. Dylan Avatar

    This just feels like one of those games where we all stay up really late and lose a painful 1-0 game in the 13th inning or something…

  58. greg Avatar
    greg

    White Sox didn’t win yet. The Pirates are only down 11 in the 9th.

  59. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    This does not look good, Tiger Fans. Every single hitter looks fooled and tied up. Hard to see a win at this point. Tigs just seem to be unable to hit the ball at all.

  60. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Do not despair, Tiger Fans! Kenny is keeping us in this one!

  61. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    Maybe I’m way off, but it looks like they’re trying to pull Sanchez. I wonder if a little adjustment to go the other way would make any difference.

    Have faith, we’ll win this game.

    Sean, I always knew you cared.

  62. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Grandy needs to steal.

  63. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Oh yeah he’s hitting 8th. My bad.

  64. Tbone Avatar
    Tbone

    Granderson ends the no-hitter bid. That was the first ball the Tigers hit out of the infield!

  65. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    “FWIW, Dunn in LF makes Marcus Thames look like a graceful swan.”

    I don’t know, Greg. I’m pretty sure a graceful swan would be awful in left field. Probably just hiss at the bullpen and ignore fly balls.

    No, I get what you mean. People here in Cincinnati often call for Dunn’s head because of his fielding ability. They don’t care how many home runs he hits. They just look at him as American League trade bait.

  66. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    Yeah, like that Curtis!

    We’re in the ‘H’ column! Now for the ‘R’ column…

  67. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    A steal and then a bunt would be a good play, man. But. Gee.

  68. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Sky the Optimist returns! Hey Sky – the Tigers are going to win this one just for you, just to cheer you up.

    Cheer us all up.

  69. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Ooh baby we’re in business now, maybe.

  70. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    C’mon, Polly. Fly ball here. Get it out of the infield.

    Great play by Burris to save a run, BTW.

  71. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    No GIDP please.

  72. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Oh yeah. There’s the first run. Let’s get some more.

  73. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Yeah!

  74. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    oooooh, a break for the Tigers as Polly’s chopper goes over Aurilia’s head. 1-0

    Carlos needs to bust it open here. Something…. extra bases.

  75. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    I think they made a dugout group meeting type adjustment.

  76. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    I would take a walk, gladly. Bases loaded for Maggs might get him out of his slump.

  77. greg Avatar
    greg

    Polanco – GIRBI

  78. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Sounds like the Tigers are prying the lid off the can…

  79. Mike R Avatar

    That run is just how I drew it up. High chopper over a drawn in 3rd baseman. Classic rocket.

  80. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Come on Maggs!

  81. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    Chris in Tampa,

    You at the game? Awful far from your neck of the woods.

  82. Mike R Avatar

    They’re not so much prying the lid off the can, just kind of poking some tooth picks through the foil on top of the can.

  83. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    I’m feeling a big hit from Maggs here. A la 2007.

  84. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Okay, okay, well we gained some ground.

    Went from being no-hit to being three-hit.

    Let’s go Kenny, keep us safe.

  85. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    I’m also feeling a Lakers comeback, so take it for what it’s worth.

  86. Mark in Chicago Avatar
    Mark in Chicago

    Man, would have liked to have gotten more there. At least they made him throw some pitches.

  87. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    I think I get it, Greg. Clever new stat.

  88. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    1-0 Tigers going into bottom of 6th seems to always means at least 2-1 for the opposition by the end of the game. I sure hate to make that comment but it has just been that way all year. If we do not have a big lead it is certain to be lost.

  89. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    I’ll take the toothpicks in the foil, Mike. Do they rip the foil off next inning?

  90. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Ken

    If your asking if I’m at the game. No. Just mentally.

  91. Mike R Avatar

    Sean I hope they blow the entire can up with a package full of bottle rockets.

  92. greg Avatar
    greg

    So far, I like Kenny’s strategy of shutting out the Giants. I hope he sticks to that game plan.

  93. Mike R Avatar

    And I seriously LOATHE the person who taught the FSN Detroit Crew how to use the split screen. If I wanted to watch the game on a screen that’s about 10 inches across, I’d buy a 10 inch television.

  94. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Oh no.

  95. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    See, now men on 1st and 2nd no one out for SF. It happens every time and is as certain as rain in Seattle.

  96. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    Frankly, it’s just disgusting it happens so often. They NEVER stop at the critical moment.

  97. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Look at that swan in LF

  98. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Crap Crap Crap.

  99. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Rejoice. This is the kind of game Detroit was almost never in earlier in the year. Exciting, nerve-wracking… and a feeling that it’s winnable. At least that’s my feeling.

  100. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Well at least he didn’t Rodney one.

  101. Mike R Avatar

    Sky: Not making this up but Seattle gets less annual rain fall than NYC and Atlanta both. Just thought I’d throw that out there.

  102. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    That damn walk. They were trying to give you the out Kenny!

  103. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    You know what always happens. A player makes a great defensive play, and then gets a key hit next inning. Country Strong up second.

  104. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    I have GOT to learn to stick with the pessimism.

  105. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    Kevin, did you get your paper turned in ok?

  106. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    Cabrera is really, really good.

  107. Mike R Avatar

    And Miguel Cabrera with a blast of sunshine over Rowand’s head. See, Sky, it doesn’t rain all the time.

  108. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    I did Sky, many thanks. I emailed it you yesterday if you’d like to see it.

  109. David G. Avatar
    David G.

    Pudge is really, really bad (in situations like that).

  110. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    Once again…….stupid baseball…………don’t tell me that truck should even think of going on a hopper to 3rd. Way to really place the ball in a good place Pudge.

  111. Mike R Avatar

    And then the coaching staff comes in like an Arctic freaking snow storm to just cool off any good thing. Who is sending MIGUEL CABRERA on contact? You don’t send him on contact even if Aurilia is playing in San Diego, let alone, a couple feet behind the cut of the grass.

  112. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Blast of sunshine being…?

  113. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    Has no one on the Detroit staff ever even heard of the suicide squeeze? I mean, I know it is risky but we can not seem to score men on 3rd any other way…..why do they not try it in close games like this?

  114. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Yep, ladies and gents. A 7 pitch inning.

    Wooo.

  115. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    I just found it in my mailbox, Kevin. Thanks!

  116. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    OK, I get it now. And the double is wiped out.

  117. Mike R Avatar

    sean: I was playing off the ‘just as certain as rain in Seattle” from Sky when Miggy doubled to lead off the inning.

    Seriously, what manager thinks “hey, Miguel Cabrera should come on contact on this play?”

  118. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    And the score would be…?

  119. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    I’m travelling without my Univac, so I can’t answer my own questions as usual…but I’m wondering here, has any team had more runners thrown out at home this year than the Tigers?

  120. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Mike, i got the reference, just not the double part.

    What manager trusts Pudge to hit the ball to the right side when he’s supposed to? Sounds bad all around.

  121. Coleman Avatar
    Coleman

    Strangely enough I am in Seattle, bitterly, under clear skies…then to San Francisco a few hours after the Tigers game will have ended.

  122. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    OK, I should shut up. I thought Miggy was going to 3rd. He was out going home?

  123. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    FYI – I’m switching from the MLB.tv broadcast to Dan & Jim, that should do it.

  124. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    The Tigers need to score, and get Kenny a win. He deserves it.

  125. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    Yes Sean he was out going home

  126. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Coleman, of what possible use to us are you without your Univac/ Be gone, unless you can tell me the score.

  127. Mike R Avatar

    Sean: Miggy doubled, Thames hit a sac fly to RF to get him to 3rd and then with the infield playing about 3-4 feet behind the cut of the grass (and Rod Allen said “they’re playing there because Cabrera’s not coming home on contact so they don’t have to play as shallow as they would if another runner were on 3rd.”) and pudge grounded to 3rd and Miggy was coming on contact and out at home.

  128. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    Sean C – he tagged from 2nd to 3rd on a flyout to deep right field. Then he was coming home on contact when Pudge bounced out to 3B. 3B Coach should have been in his ear “on contact on the ground, unless right to Aurilia.” Miggy should already know this, but he’s young and has made many baserunning mistakes already this year, so I’ll put that one on Lamont.

  129. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Holy Raburn!!!

  130. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    RABURN!

  131. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    He crushed that ball.

  132. Mike R Avatar

    Kevin comes through!

    Ryan Raburn with a BOMB. Marcus Thames would be jealous of that shot, holy crap.

    Rod Allen: “Ry-an Ra-burn, stop it! Stop it!”

  133. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    So who comes in the 8th inning to pitch now? Rodney? Dolsi? Miner? Bautista? Everybody make your pick now so you can second guess later.

  134. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    By about 40 feet Sean

  135. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    Radio switch is working so far. I’d like to recommend it to all the MLB.tv watchers out there right now (though I’m a bit jealous that I didn’t get to see that bomb, sounds like he drilled it).

  136. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Bilfer I want to second guess Rodney on consecutive nights 🙂

  137. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Thank you, Mike (and Sky). Man, they’d better not let this one slip away.

  138. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    I think they’re gonna have to pull him. Yay!

  139. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    Well, I am stupid….I missed both Miguel’s double and Rayburn’s HR in my bedroom typing here!

  140. Mike R Avatar

    Billfer, give me Miner since Sexy Freddy and F-Rod pitched last night.

  141. Tbone Avatar
    Tbone

    I say Miner…

    Ryan Raburn? He hasn’t caught up to a fastball in weeks but that was clobbered!

  142. T Smith Avatar
    T Smith

    Hopefully we’ll score some more runs so it won’t matter. I’m not comfortable with any one of them, if the truth be told.

  143. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Tack on runs please.

  144. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    “Everybody make your pick now so you can second guess later”

    That would force us to commit to something that might not work. No fair.

    I say Miner. Not my choice, just guessing what will be.

  145. T Smith Avatar
    T Smith

    But if I were to pick, I say Miner.

  146. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    Now, can we just score the guy on 3rd?…If we don’t I will be sick. By the way, my doctor today told me I am a prime candidate for a deadly heart attack. Wish me well boys!

  147. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    Nice rip by Polanco to move Renteria from 1st to 3rd with no outs. Takes Mr. Sanchez out of the game. Receives standing ovation and a future loss.

    Ken lights a Basic and pours himself a Ginger Ale because he is a 25 year old living in a 60 year old’s body.

  148. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    I know you’re all getting tired of the man on the dark side of the moon here, but… score please?

  149. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    Maybe I shouldn’t watch close games!……and did anyone see Tiger win that US Open…….? What a round of golf that was!

  150. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    I’m going with Miner as well. We’re gonna get Jonesy in the 9th, and he got drilled last time up, which means he’s due for a harmless out, single, pop out, K inning.

    What I’d like to do is tack on 3 more runs here (more radio switchers please) and then go Miner/Rodney or Bautista, and save Sexy and Jones for tomorrow.

  151. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    I’m going with Bautista. That’s my choice.

    Did you notice on that last hit and run that nobody broke to cover second? Didn’t matter cuz Polanco hit it, but E-Rent would have had himself a steal.

  152. Mike R Avatar

    3-1 sean, guillen beat out a DP ball — run would’ve scored regardless but now it’s 1 out runner on 1st Tigers up two.

    Sky: That was the best round of golf, and most entertaining round, I’ve ever watched. And I’m a big golf fan. Such enthralling tv.

  153. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    Did Maggs get a hair cut? The locks don’t look quite as bushy.

  154. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Thanks, Mike. Tack some on, Tigers.

  155. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    RABURN BLAMO! Sorry, I forgot to post my exclamation when that happened 15 minutes ago. That’s really what we live for on here isn’t it?

  156. Mike R Avatar

    Billfer: When Magglio hit the deep fly ball the day of miggy’s walk off shot and then hit another one deep but at the warning track on that home stand Rod Allen mentioned he got his hair cut a bit and that “he should grow that back out… regain some power” and then started that little giggle of his. So yeah, he did, apparently.

  157. T Smith Avatar
    T Smith

    I think Miggy need to knock one out here.

  158. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Low-flow shower heads, Billfer. Super just installed them.

  159. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    C’mon Marcus. Last chance.

  160. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    What the?

  161. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    I just do not know what Maggs is doing……he was out at 1st on the throw.(despite a bad call that only serves to fire up the ops!)…….how does that happen to a baserunner ?

  162. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    billfer – I thought the exact same thing

    “What the?” bad word

  163. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    Ok, what the f was that? Double steal with Cabrera and Ordonez? Is Jimmy out of his Papa Smurffin mind?? Did Thames miss a hit and run call there?

  164. Mike R Avatar

    Wow. First sending Miggy on contact from 3rd with less than 2 out and now sending magglio on a steal (hit and run?) after he just busted his butt to get back to first to not get doubled up. Outstanding managing. Seriously, who does that?

    P.S. Those watching the FSN Detroit telecast, is it just me or has Rod Allen used “hump” about 8 times tonight? “He had to hump it down the line.” “Tigers had to hump out Sanchez tonight.” Kind of creepy.

  165. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    That double steal was the stupidest thing I ever saw, as well.

  166. ron Avatar
    ron

    Maggs made 3 outs that inning.

  167. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    Sometimes I think Leyland is just kinda dumb.

  168. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    I second guess Miner first tonight. 🙂

  169. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    Sadly, if I had $20.00 to bet on this game I would have to put it on SF.

  170. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    The Tigers have been playing very well the last week or so, but Leyland is still an idiot.

  171. greg Avatar
    greg

    Mike R – LOL on the Rod Allen comments.

  172. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Marcus will have his chance to homer in the 9th.

  173. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    “Sadly, if I had $20.00 to bet on this game I would have to put it on SF.”

    Sad that you would have put money on the opposition or sad that you don’t have $20.00

    Well I had $60 to bet on this game and I put it on the Tigs. Bring home the bacon, bullpen.

  174. Mike R Avatar

    JIM LEYLAND GOT A DECISION RIGHT TONIGHT! HOLY COW!

    Or “Hey, Hey!” depending on what famous Cubs call you prefer.

  175. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    I am very glad to report to anyone not seeing it that Miner did not surrender a 2 run homer in the 8th.

    Is roller coaster time coming?

  176. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    After the play just described (double steal, missed hit and run), the next thing I want and need to read is “Tigers win.” I’ll accept nothing else.

  177. Forty Avatar
    Forty

    Yeah leyland stinks…fortunately baseball managing is the least important coaching function in professional sports

  178. Mike R Avatar

    greg: I wish I was making that stuff up, haha. He’s said some peculiar things. Notably his overuse of the word “hump” in awkward context, saying that the “tigers coaching staff is so in-depth” and “that’s what makes Jim Leyland such a great manager.”

    Hysterical.

  179. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Adam:

    I would have been happy with a single from Thames in the 8th, but when the manager takes the bat out of your hands…..

  180. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    No second guess. Good call on Miner.

  181. charlie Avatar
    charlie

    i’m really enjoying the games for the past several weeks. i think it was the sarcasm here that turned things around…miner loked good there but i guess rollercoaster will pitch the 9th.

  182. Mike R Avatar

    Forty, I agree. However, he’s continuing to give away outs and just failing to make the proper decisions. It’s frustrating and just dumb.

  183. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Thank you for that report, Sky. Keep the good news coming.

  184. T Smith Avatar
    T Smith

    YES!

  185. Mike R Avatar

    OH NO HE DIDN’T! OH MY GOD! JIM LEYLAND HAD A METHOD TO HIS MADNESS!!!!!

  186. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Dude Thames is incredible!!!!!!!!

  187. Forty Avatar
    Forty

    No f’ing way

  188. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    THAMES>…..8 IN A ROW

  189. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    Thank goodness the ump called that outside pitch a strike or else Marcus would just be standing on first.

  190. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    OH MY FREAKING GOD HE DID IT AGAIN.

  191. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

  192. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    No freakin way. I’ve really sacrificed a bunch here going radio, I hope that you all appreciate it. Mike R is up next game.

  193. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    I TOTALLY CALLED IT!!!

  194. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    THAT WAS A BOMB!

  195. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    i bet Thames was getting nervous that he might not play tomorrow, so he smashed one out for Leyland.

  196. Joel in Seattle Avatar
    Joel in Seattle

    Nice…

  197. Dylan Avatar

    Marcus Thames is just crazy right now. Wow.

  198. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    SF announcers say it was 440 feet……………Pudge follows with a single Sean

  199. ron Avatar
    ron

    I couldn’t live with myself if I bet against any Detroit team. Can’t tell you how much money I’ve lost on the Lions.

  200. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Quick stat-check: When’s the last time we’ve scored in the 9th inning on consecutive days?

  201. T Smith Avatar
    T Smith

    By the way, if anyone is interested, Mark McGuire holds the record at 11 consecutive hits for HR. But I believe Marcus Markley Thames would be # 2 at 8.

  202. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    What were we saying about Adam Dunn again?

  203. Mike R Avatar

    This absolutely ridiculous right now. Holy crap.

  204. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    THAMES FOR OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK! GOTTA BE. HOLY CRAP I CAN’T STOP TYPING IN ALL CAPS!!! EXCLAMATION POINT!!!

  205. Forty Avatar
    Forty

    Lol at the bonds comparison by the sf announcers…marcus would be exactly like barry if he played like this for 20 seasons

  206. Joel in Seattle Avatar
    Joel in Seattle

    So, was there a reason at least approaching sane why two runners were going with a guy at the plate who hasn’t hit anything but a homer in a week last inning?

  207. Joel in Seattle Avatar
    Joel in Seattle

    Wow, that was a really bad run-on. And it’s only 9:30 for me…

  208. T Smith Avatar
    T Smith

    What did Rod say?

  209. ron Avatar
    ron

    Let’s not waste this homer.

  210. Forty Avatar
    Forty

    Hell yes tigers

  211. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Larish joins the fun!

  212. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    Larish drives in Pudge Sean…5-1, 1 out, Larish at 2nd. Renteria up.

  213. Joel in Seattle Avatar
    Joel in Seattle

    They should send Larish here…

  214. Mike R Avatar

    I honestly don’t even know what Rod said because I was too busy saying a bunch of words that are not allowed on this site out loud, to myself.

    hahaha, they’re showing Thames on the bench and Rod goes: “Yup, I used to hit them like that.”

  215. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    Mark McGuire loses 5 off of his record for being a needle butt. That puts the Funk Doctor first all time. (I’m just going to keep force feeding that nickname if I have to)

    Good to see Larish get in on the action. We always need a nice cushion for the coaster.

  216. Forty Avatar
    Forty

    I’m sure rod said something about country strong and contact to damage ratio

  217. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Thanks, Sky. Wow wow wow. Keep it going please.

  218. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Country Funk had better get to play tomorrow.

  219. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Shouldn’t Leyland be pinch-running for Larish here?

  220. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    AND WE GOT NO-HIT THROUGH 5!!!

  221. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    I can live with that, Adam.

  222. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    PLEASE JONSEY…….DON’T MAKE THIS GAME SEEM CLOSER THAN IT IS……..OR MAKE IT CLOSER THAN IT IS!

  223. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Funk Doctor! I second that emotion, Ken. But you’ve gotta admit, he’s country strong.

  224. Mike R Avatar

    I’m trying to do a play index list on baseball reference of the most consecutive hits being homers but it’s taking forever to search and just timing out on me. booo.

  225. ron Avatar
    ron

    I love it when these outfielders try to throw out a runner at home by bouncing the ball because they have no confidence in their ability to throw it on the fly on a line to the catcher. Is this little league?

  226. Joel in Seattle Avatar
    Joel in Seattle

    I know he’s got the streak going, but Marcus could have helped us out with a walk or a base hit there. I hate rally-killing HRs…

  227. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    I SPIT ON THE HOUSE OF MOLINA!

  228. Mike R Avatar

    I like Country Funk that Adam is bringing to the table.

  229. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Hey, I got it from someone here. Don’t look now, but there are two on with no outs.

  230. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    This is just stupid.

  231. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    This is getting scary.

  232. Mike R Avatar

    Not worried. Todd will get this closed out. Probably something like 5-3.

  233. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    wELL, HERE IT COMES.THE INEVITABLE BLOWN GAME!

  234. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    No, no no no no please please no.

  235. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    Bases juiced with no outs!!

  236. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Classic, Joel.

  237. ron Avatar
    ron

    Mark? That’s steroid strong not country strong. Strike him and his anabolics from the books.

  238. billfer Avatar
    billfer

    It’s one thing to have faith in your closer. It’s another thing to be stupid. After 3 straight singles you might want to get someone up. This stubborness drives me crazy.

  239. Vince in MN Avatar
    Vince in MN

    Typical Jones in a non-save situation. He should never be allowed to pitch with more than a 3-run lead.

  240. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    Thank you Clevlen. Bases loaded 1 out.

  241. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Buriss then a PH. So as long as Buriss doesn’t park one we should be ok? Please?

  242. ron Avatar
    ron

    Bring in Rodney, now.

  243. RudeMood19 Avatar
    RudeMood19

    What’s wrong with Jones

  244. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    No, please don’t bring in Rodney.

  245. ron Avatar
    ron

    Hail mary, full of grace…

  246. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    LMAO @ “Bring in Rodney.” I think I woke my parents up.

  247. Dylan Avatar

    He’s not the roller coaster for no reason :-).

  248. Mike R Avatar

    See. Just got to have faith! (and go against whatever sky says 😉 haha)

  249. Ken from Cincinnati Avatar
    Ken from Cincinnati

    Bases juiced with 2 outs. I’m fanning myself like a fat lady at church. Oh, lawdy lawdy

  250. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    Good old Jones. Get everyone’s heart racing, and then get 3 straight outs.

  251. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    JONES, YOU ARE THE LUCKIEST MOTHER IN BASEBALL!!

  252. Adam Avatar
    Adam

    Sean: Tigers win. 😉

  253. RudeMood19 Avatar
    RudeMood19

    LOL TODD JONES

    ONLY pitcher in the history of baseball who can give up 3 hits in an innings without giving up a run

  254. Sky Avatar
    Sky

    BUT WELL DONE ANYWAY……..WHY DO YOU HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY?????

  255. Jeff Avatar
    Jeff

    Hey, Sky, the Tigers won. Maybe it’s time to be happy for once.

  256. Joel in Seattle Avatar
    Joel in Seattle

    Great performance from Jones. It’s tough to come in with 3 guys on base and no one out… even if you put them there.

  257. charlie Avatar
    charlie

    i think jonsey must have shares in companies that sell heart medicine. good win though. let’s take the series tomorrow.

  258. greg Avatar
    greg

    How can y’all be nervous with Mr. Automatic on the mound?

    13/13

    🙂

  259. Brian in Tampa Avatar
    Brian in Tampa

    See you all at 4 eastern tomorrow. Time for bed.

  260. Eric W. Kent Avatar
    Eric W. Kent

    McGwire has the most consecutive hits being HRs. It’s either 10 or 11…and I’m fairly sure it’s 11. Thames is now all alone in 2nd place with 8. (a few others had 7 as well)

  261. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Joel strikes again.

    Thank you Adam.

    Thank you, Todd Jones. I think.

    You guys think it’s tough WATCHING Jones? Try knowing he’s pitching with bases loaded and none out and then having no idea what was happening for 5 minutes thereafter.

  262. Mike R Avatar

    Baseball Tonight said Marcus tied Albert Belle with 8 straight hits being HR’s. McGwire leads it at 11 straight hits are HR’s.

  263. RudeMood19 Avatar
    RudeMood19

    GUYS, you know what I didn’t realize. The Texas Rangers, yes those very same Rangers who got annihilated by the Tigers and had Rod Allen mocking their mediocrity calling their pitching minor league material, are 36-36.

    That’s shocking. Ron Washington’s doing a great job.

  264. Kevin in Austin Avatar
    Kevin in Austin

    I caught some of the postgame radio on the SF station (Jon Miller is absolute greatness), and they were going on and on about Marcus. Specifically about the blast that he hit tonight, but they were singing his praises for a while. It was fun to hear.

    I’m really enjoying this stretch by Marcus, we may not see anything like it again for quite some time. Props to you Funky Country.

  265. West Coast Tiger Avatar
    West Coast Tiger

    Great game, fun to watch.
    Thames home run was a Monster, that left everyone in Giant land speechless for a moment. I think it brought back memories of Barry. On to tomorrow.

  266. Chief Monday Avatar
    Chief Monday

    Just watched the end of the game on Tivo. I went to bed with the score tied 0-0. This mornings Tiger victory was a great early x-mas present.

    It looked like Thamas nearly got hurt on a diving play catch. I think it’s only a matter of time before he gets hurt out there.
    Todd Jones got my blood going with his wired performance. That’s what I call a wake up call.

    Great game and great poise on behalf of the team. Sanchez looked phenomenal, but we beat him anyway. Earlier this year he would of shut us out.

  267. Chief Monday Avatar
    Chief Monday

    I forgot to say Kudos to Rayburn and Larish for their pinch hitting, Roger’s for another excellent pitched game, and of coarse Thames for being the man on this team.

  268. tiff Avatar
    tiff

    things we wouldn’t have seen earlier this season
    -adjustment to lights out pitching
    -timely two out hitting
    -marcus thames’ country power
    -maggs or miggs on a hit and run

    well the last one we probably shouldn’t see for awhile.

    Evidence like this game gives me real hope that they’ve turned the corner. They like to play baseball now!

  269. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Some catch by Thames. How did he hang on to that ball? That might have been bigger than the HR, as Kenny said.

    Clevlen’s catch was great, too. Do you get the feeling he might be sticking around?

  270. tiff Avatar
    tiff

    my favorite quote from the wraps, from Kenny “I told Marcus, if you don’t hit a HR for me, you don’t love me.”

  271. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    That is good, tiff.

    Well, he’s hit home runs for every starter currently in the rotation. Whole Lotta Love.

  272. Brian P Avatar
    Brian P

    I don’t see Clevlen leaving, although he’s a little redundant with Raburn already on the bench. Probably: Sheffield will replace Larish and Santiago will replace Hollimon.

    Am I missing anyone?

  273. Dave BW Avatar
    Dave BW

    “I told Marcus, if you don’t hit a HR for me, you don’t love me.”

    Kenny is awesome.

  274. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Unless the Tigers intend to go after Adam Dunn (who strikes out quite a lot more often than Thames), I will take Marcus in LF every time, especially with OF company like Grandy and Maggs.

    baseball-reference.com 162 game average for Thames:

    470 AB 74 runs 114 hits 24 doubles 1 triple 33 home runs 85 rbi 41 bb 126 k .243/.308/.506 109 OPS+ 6 gdp

    I’ll take that from Thames, from Joyce, from Clevlen, from Adam Dunn for that matter. A team with WS aspirations can afford to “carry” a LF like this. A 2006 WS team did carry a 3B not quite this good, in addition to a two-headed version of the same LF.

  275. judpma Avatar
    judpma

    I guess last night we did to them what they did to us the night before…………….the Clevlen play was the game winner….it got “roller coaster” off his game!!! Jones was so shook up by that catch he got he next two guys out ,….no runs..

  276. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    “I don’t see Clevlen leaving, although he’s a little redundant with Raburn on the bench”

    Brian, I’m not positive – and I’m not basing this on the catch last night I just watched video of – but I get the impression that Clevlen is the better outfielder of the two, and since it’s hard to believe they’d risk Sheffield in the OF any more, Clevlen is anything but redundant. I only wish Raburn could play a better 3B.

  277. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    “Jones was so shook up by that catch he got the next two guys out”

    Nice. Messed up the plan, for sure.

  278. Chris in Dallas Avatar
    Chris in Dallas

    I like Clevlen’s defense, though Brian brings up a good point about redundancy with Raburn (say THAT five times fast). They’ve got a very similar profile and kinda play the same way (and no, I’m not just saying that because they’re both white), only Raburn can also play IF and thus is more valuable overall.

  279. Dave BW Avatar
    Dave BW

    Clevlen, historically, is a much better outfielder than Raburn. Raburn was a 2B in the minors.

  280. Chris in Dallas Avatar
    Chris in Dallas

    Clevlen’s excellent defensively, but I wouldn’t say Raburn is like Manny Ramirez or anything with the OF glove either. His versatility makes him the more valuable guy. He’s historically a better hitter than Clevlen, this year notwithstanding. One of the SF papers today called him a “.219 hitting scrub”. Ouch. That smarts.

  281. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    Thus, the bench going forward (I hate the term “going forward,” but it’s in vogue in this day of age), pending the return of Shef and Little Shef* and minus the Toledo-bound Larish and Hollimon, is:

    Inge/Rodriguez, Clevlen, Raburn, Santiago.

    *Similar in terms of 2008 power, but lagging far behind in RK and FRBI. Thus, “Little.”

  282. Sean C. in Illinois Avatar
    Sean C. in Illinois

    “One of the SF papers today called him a “.219 hitting scrub”.”

    They shoulda read up on his 2 HR, 7 RBI game last year.

  283. David G. Avatar
    David G.

    Please tell me that we are going to flat pummel Zito today. Please? Absolutely no reason not to…