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		<title>Wins in unexpected places</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When your team turns to an emergency starter and you get a win, the aesthetics of such a win become irrelevant. Which is fortunate because this wasn’t exactly a pretty victory. The bullpen though was awesome.]]></description>
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</p><p><span class="drop_cap">W</span>hen your team turns to an emergency starter and you get a win, the aesthetics of such a win become irrelevant. Which is fortunate because this wasn’t exactly a pretty victory.</p>
<p>With <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1703&amp;position=P">Dontrelle Willis</a> battling a stomach virus the Tigers turned to Brad Thomas to try and eat some innings. Thomas wasn’t good the first two innings. He either missed the strike zone or got hammered. Even factoring in an <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=paJ05026&amp;position=OF">Austin Jackson</a> misplay, you had the feeling that the Rangers should have scored more than 4 runs in the first 2 innings. But Thomas did manage to come out for a quick and painless 3rd inning.</p>
<p>The Tigers then got frisky in the 3rd and 4th innings. They strung together 3 hits, an RBI ground out to get the game within 1 run in the 3rd.</p>
<p>In the 4th inning it was Tigers patience and a screwy wild pitch that gave the Tigers the lead. Ramon Santiago scored from second on a pitch that went through Taylor Teagarden’s 5-hole.* That was enough for the lead, but the Tigers added some more runs as they batted around.</p>
<p><em>*Does anybody else remember another game in Texas where <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX200505110.shtml">Nook Logan scored from first base on a wild pitch</a>?</em></p>
<h3>Bullpen Dominance</h3>
<p>The story of this game though is probably the bullpen. Eddie Bonine followed Thomas and allowed just 2 baserunners in 3 innings while getting 9 ground ball outs. Bonine threw his knuckler 7 times, all for strikes and 2 resulted in ground outs.<br />
<a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4699&amp;position=P">Joel Zumaya</a> was next and recorded 5 of his 6 outs with strike outs. <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1726&amp;position=P">Jose Valverde</a> handled the 9th inning allowing just an infield single.</p>
<p>The final line for the pen was 6 innings, 3 singles, 1 walk, and 5 K’s.</p>
<p>Because Bonine and Zumaya in particular were able to chew up 5 innings, it means that the rest of the pen is available tomorrow.</p>
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<li>The bullpen would have had one more hit surrendered were it not for a spectacular leaping grab by Jackson. It may be his best catch of the season.</li>
<li>Jackson did keep his strikeout streak alive. It’ll end some day.</li>
<li>I liked seeing the Tigers taking advantage of the defense and picking up 2 bunt hits. I hate the sacrifice, but love seeing a guy drop one down when the 3rd baseman is playing deep.</li>
<li>Adam Everett left the game with a hamstring strain.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=paF06013&amp;position=2B">Scott Sizemore</a> didn’t play due to ankle soreness.</li>
<li>Johnny Damon’s hit streak extends to 11 and he reached base 4 times.</li>
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		<title>Robertson traded</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeremy Bonderman and Dontrelle Willis have secured the final two spots in the Tigers rotation, and Nate Robertson secured a spot with the Marlins. The Tigers today traded Robertson and $9.6 million of his $10 million contract for Marlins left handed prospect Jay Voss. For my thoughts on the trade, well, just look back a [...]]]></description>
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</p><p><span class="drop_cap">J</span>eremy Bonderman and Dontrelle Willis have secured the final two spots in the Tigers rotation, and Nate Robertson secured a spot with the Marlins. The Tigers today traded Robertson and $9.6 million of his $10 million contract for Marlins left handed prospect Jay Voss. For my thoughts on the trade, well, <a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2010/03/putting-eggs-in-the-willis-basket/">just look back a couple days</a>.</p>
<p>Robertson outpitched his two competitors not only this spring, but last year as well. The stats say that Robertson should be in the rotation. It has to be a tough pill for Robertson to swallow.*</p>
<p>But, it is important not to make too much of spring stats, or even last year’s stats due to the limited sample sizes in play. Scouting reports should play a role as well and the <a href="http://freep.com/article/20100330/SPORTS02/100330055/1050/Tigers-Dombrowski-discusses-rotation-decision">Tigers are encouraged by the stuff</a> that Willis and Bonderman have shown this spring.</p>
<p>On Willis Dombrowski said:</p>
<blockquote><p>He’s throwing strikes. His ball has had quality movement. He looks more confident on the mound.</p></blockquote>
<p>And on Bonderman:</p>
<blockquote><p>He’s come back. He’s continued to progress. His arm strength is average to a tick above. It looks like he’s sinking the ball well. His slider has been good. He continues to work on his change &#8212; he’s thrown some good ones. I don’t want to say he’s got exactly the same stuff, because he used to throw 96-97 m.p.h. But it’s solid, major league stuff. He’s aggressive. You can tell he feels confident.</p></blockquote>
<p>I’d have more faith in the Willis report if we hadn’t heard this before, like before the extension was signed prior to the 2008 season.</p>
<p>It would be one thing if there was salary relief in play today, but the only difference between cutting Robertson and the trade is Jay Voss (no disrespect intended Mr. Voss). They could have just cut any of the three really.</p>
<p>Eddie Bonine, Alfredo Figaro, <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5535&amp;position=P">Phil Coke</a>, and Zach Miner all just became more important with today’s transaction.</p>
<p><small>*This isn’t really analysis, but Robertson is one of the Tigers I’ve had a chance to talk with. I’ll gloss over the “he’s a good guy” part because it’s cliche (but it’s also true). But Robertson did appreciate being a Tiger. He identified the Tigers as his team. He knows about the history and the places that legends such as Ernie Harwell and Al Kaline hold in our hearts. In that regard it makes me sad he’s leaving. Yes it is a business and he’s getting paid handsomely, but he’s also a person.</small></p>
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		<title>Putting eggs in the Willis basket</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The battle for the back end of the Tigers starting rotation has been the story of the spring for Detroit fans. The Tigers are counting on two of the Jeremy Bonderman – Nate Robertson – Dontrelle Willis trio to bill out the last 40% of the starters innings. Bonderman has pretty much had the 4th spot assured leaving Robertson and Willis battling for the 5th spot. But with Robertson outpitching Willis by most measures, it appears that Robertson is on the block and Willis has that  last spot. A dangerous proposition to say the least.]]></description>
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</p><p><span class="drop_cap">T</span>he battle for the back end of the Tigers starting rotation has been the story of the spring for Detroit fans. The Tigers are counting on two of the Jeremy Bonderman – Nate Robertson – Dontrelle Willis trio to bill out the last 40% of the starters innings. Bonderman has pretty much had the 4th spot assured leaving Robertson and Willis battling for the 5th spot. But with Robertson outpitching Willis by most measures, it appears that Robertson is on the block and Willis has that  last spot. A dangerous proposition to say the least.</p>
<p>Willis has been turning heads due to his 1.20 ERA in all of 15 innings this spring. This has been buoyed by the fact he’s only allowed 9 hits this spring. But he is still walking a batter every other inning and not striking out enough hitters (10 in 15 innings). Without seeing the games I really have no idea if Willis is limiting hits due to fooling guys or if it has been some combination of luck and defense. Given  what we know about batting average on balls in play, I’d give more credence to the latter rather than the former.</p>
<p>The results for Willis are encouraging, but only if you’re comparing to his past performance. It’s one thing to be hopeful that Willis is turning a corner based on his spring play, but it is another to think he is ready to be a member of a big league rotation.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Robertson has pitched quite well in his 19.2 innings on the mound. Robertson has <a href="http://www.freep.com/article/20100318/SPORTS02/3180450/Tigers/--Nate-Robertson-adjusting-from-speed-to-finesse">adjusted his game</a> and is fanning a batter an inning and has walked only 1 less than Willis.  Just like Willis though we shouldn’t make too much of limited spring stats. Due to injuries and ineffectiveness neither pitcher received considerable game action in 2009, but Robertson did more with his opportunity as a starter. After getting his elbow cleaned out Robertson made 6 starts and posted a 3.86 ERA (with a 1.714 WHIP). He walked too many (4.5/9 innings) and didn’t strike out enough (5.8/9 innings) but it was still ahead of Willis.</p>
<p>In 7 Dontrelle starts (including his good start against the Rangers) he walked 28 in 33.2 innings and only struck out 17 while allowing a 7.49 ERA).</p>
<p>Both players are huge question marks, as is Bonderman. Which makes the rumors that Robertson is being shopped all the more surprising. If Robertson is moved the safety net for Willis becomes Eddie Bonine. One tier down is Armando Galarraga. The Tigers are going to have to pay Robertson regardless (they’d have to eat a big chunk of his contract). I would prefer to see him try and contribute to the Tigers.</p>
<p>The speculation has been that whoever doesn’t make the rotation would be released. Willis, Robertson, and Bonderman have options left, but both could refuse assignment. While I understand that none of the 3 would want to toil in the minors, the chances to have significant playing time with the Tigers are still pretty good.</p>
<p>A trade of Robertson would be hasty at this point. While he probably has the most trade value of the 3, the Tigers likely can’t afford to lose his arm. He has outpitched his main competitors both this spring and in recent history and is in a similar salary situation. The Tigers are carrying the payroll of a competitor and have enough talent given their division to have a shot at the playoffs. Experimenting with a questionable 5th starter for too long could prove too costly. Kind of like in 2009.</p>
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		<title>Eddie Bonine is your 5th starter</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flashback a week. The Tigers had a big lead in the division and they were surging. Nate Robertson had turned in two solid performances. Jarrod Washburn’s troubles were optimistically assigned to a sore knee that would hopefully be better with a little rest. Armando Galarraga’s struggles were tied to elbow inflammation and with a little [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Flashback a week. The Tigers had a big lead in the division and they were surging. Nate Robertson had turned in two solid performances. Jarrod Washburn’s troubles were optimistically assigned to a sore knee that would hopefully be better with a little rest. Armando Galarraga’s struggles were tied to elbow inflammation and with a little rest there was reason to think he wouldn’t be awful. This would be great news to have potentially 6 starters down the stretch with a big lead and 3 key cogs to the rotation having worked more than they ever had and looking for rest. Oh well. It was a good thought at the time.</p>
<p>Robertson has since gone down with pelvic inflammation. Washburn’s knee isn’t better. Galarraga’s elbow isn’t better. And so what may have been 6 is now 3. Washburn will search for effectiveness <a href="http://beck.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/09/washburn_galarraga_appear_set.html">in the rotation</a> and <a href="http://beck.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/09/forget_what_i_said_about_galar.html">Eddie Bonine has been promoted to 5th starter for the remainder of the season</a>.</p>
<p>Now remainder of the season could be 1 start, the actual remainder of the season, or something in between. Jim Leyland has been known to make decrees before only to change his mind a week later – at least he isn’t stubborn in that regard. The duration of Bonine’s spot is probably equally contingent on Bonine’s effectiveness and the health of Robertson and Galarraga. Though I suspect that Galarraga returning to the rotation would be a stretch at this point.</p>
<p>Robertson’s problem <a href="http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2009/09/tigers_jarrod_washburn_nate_ro.html">flared up after his start against Cleveland</a> and he had hoped to make it through 5 innings against the Blue Jays, but it didn’t work so well. Still, if he can get back quickly he could find a spot as a starter. </p>
<p>The bigger downside of all the shuffling has to do with not just the potential effectiveness or ineffectiveness of injured and replacement players, but the increased importance that Verlander/Jackson/Porcello starts take on down the stretch. Extra rest or skipped spots don’t look to be an option for any of the 3 over the last 3 weeks of the season. And with a potential playoff spot and additional innings coming for all 3 pitchers that has to be a concern. Then again, just add it to the list.</p>
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		<title>Bonine out, Zuamaya in</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This doesn&#8217;t come as a surprise at all because a)we knew that Joel Zumaya was coming back and b)Bonine hasn&#8217;t pitched well and he&#8217;s the candidate with options. Really, the only question now is how does Zumaya fit into the bullpen? Ryan Perry and Bobby Seay have combined to be the primary set-up men. Does [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>This doesn&#8217;t come as a surprise at all because a)we knew that Joel Zumaya was coming back and b)Bonine hasn&#8217;t pitched well and he&#8217;s the candidate with options. Really, the only question now is how does Zumaya fit into the bullpen? Ryan Perry and Bobby Seay have combined to be the primary set-up men. Does Zumaya bump one (probably Perry the other right hander) or does he just get mixed in?</p>
<p>The other question is does Bonine head down to be a starter or does he continue to work from the pen?</p>
<p><a href="http://detnews.com/article/20090425/SPORTS0104/904250372/1129/Eddie+Bonine+demoted+to+make+room+for+Joel+Zumaya">Eddie Bonine demoted to make room for Joel Zumaya | detnews.com | The Detroit News</a></p>
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		<title>Analysis: Breaking down today&#8217;s roster decisions</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today's roster decisions pretty much wrapped up nearly 2 months (and in some cases even more) of speculation. There is one spot yet to be decided. That will go to either Jeff Larish or Brent Clevlen, though the Tigers are reportedly in trade talks with the Pirates regarding Clevlen. (ironically, or at least coincidentally, such a trade would displace former Tiger Craig Monroe) But with 96% of the roster decided we shift our guessing from personnel to performance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><span class="drop_cap">T</span>oday&#8217;s <a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/04/porcello-and-perry-make-the-team/">roster decisions</a> pretty much wrapped up nearly 2 months (and in some cases even more) of speculation. There is one spot yet to be decided. That will go to either Jeff Larish or Brent Clevlen, though the Tigers are reportedly in <a href="http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/pirates/buccoblog/show_comments.php?entry_id=4233">trade talks with the Pirates</a> regarding Clevlen. (ironically, or at least coincidentally, such a trade would displace former Tiger Craig Monroe) But with 96% of the roster decided we shift our guessing from personnel to performance.</p>
<h3>Rick Porcello</h3>
<p>Certainly the most notable of the roster decisions was the installment of Rick Porcello into the rotation. The move is both controversial, and exciting at the same time. While I&#8217;m not generally a proponent of &#8220;rushing&#8221; pitchers I&#8217;m on board.</p>
<p>The downside of bringing Porcello up is that he may not be ready. The Tigers have invested substantially in Porcello and ruining him would be a disaster. They were very careful with his workload last year in an effort to try and keep him healthy in his first professional season.</p>
<p>But unlike Andrew Miller (who I did contest was rushed), Porcello has multiple pitches that are good enough <a href="http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/04/16/rickporcelloreport2-2/">for the big league level</a>. He fanned fewer than 6 batter per inning, which isn&#8217;t good. But he did that as a 19 year old in High A ball and a power sinker that drove ball after ball into the ground kept his ERA at 2.66.</p>
<p>The low K-rate hurt Porcello in the <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/PORCELLO19881227A.php">eyes of PECOTA</a> (6.52 ERA), which is certainly understandable and something that shouldn&#8217;t just be dismissed. I actually don&#8217;t know if PECOTA takes into account groundball/flyball ratios. But it&#8217;s also worth noting that Porcello&#8217;s ERA should benefit from an infield featuring Brandon Inge, Adam Everett, and Placido Polanco.</p>
<p>The other concern is workload. I&#8217;ve argued that if you&#8217;re concerned about innings accumulation why not use Porcello now instead of later in the season? A refrain I&#8217;ve heard is &#8220;the Tigers won&#8217;t shut him down if he&#8217;s effective and they&#8217;re contending.&#8221; I&#8217;m sorry, but I don&#8217;t see that as a concern. Porcello performing well and the Tigers contending would be wonderful news &#8211; not a negative.</p>
<p>It sounds like the goal is to have Porcello pitch about <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090401&amp;content_id=4104268&amp;vkey=news_det&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=det&amp;partnerId=rss_det">160 innings and throw 100-110 pitches per game</a> (a figure I&#8217;m confident they would work up to), which as Dave Dombrowski points out can be managed at the big league level as well as the minor league level.</p>
<p>And quite frankly, Porcello (aided by Bonderman&#8217;s injury) out pitched his competition. It&#8217;s a risk, but in a wide open division, it is a risk worth taking.</p>
<h3>Zach Miner</h3>
<p>Miner struggled considerably early in the preseason, and once his shot at starting was nearly eliminated, he turned it up a notch. Miner will probably bounce between the pen and the rotation throughout the season, as he has throughout his career. With Bonderman&#8217;s return looming, he&#8217;ll be pitching against Porcello to try and stay in the rotation.</p>
<h3>Nate Robertson</h3>
<p>Robertson&#8217;s spring was up and down. He started rough, turned in a couple of very good performances as he became more left handed, and then sprained his thumb. He struggled yesterday in the rain, but Jim Leyland said he wasn&#8217;t going to hold it against Nate. That may have kept Robertson on the team, but relegated him to the pen, a place where Robertson doesn&#8217;t feel comfortable.</p>
<p>Given the uncertainty in the rotation, having Robertson around, even just to potentially eat innings, is a move worth making. Part of me also wonders if Robertson in the pen is a Leyland/Dombrowski compromise. Where Porcello got to make the team to help the short leashed skipper, but the GM wasn&#8217;t ready to cut bait with Robertson.</p>
<h3>Ryan Perry/Juan Rincon/Eddie Bonine</h3>
<p>There are 3 very different stories here, but a common theme. Perry is last year&#8217;s first round pick. A pick at the time that seemed like one who could even bolster the Tigers pen last year. The fact he&#8217;s made the team as a reliever isn&#8217;t shocking because his <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4034469&amp;searchName=Neyer_Rob&amp;campaign=rsssrch&amp;source=neyer_rob&amp;action=login&amp;appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fespn%2fblog%2findex%3fentryID%3d4034469%26searchName%3dNeyer_Rob%26campaign%3drsssrch%26source%3dneyer_rob">exposure can be limited</a>. Rincon is the NRI trying to regain his pre-2007 form as a very good set-up man. Bonine is a middling prospect who doesn&#8217;t have a clear role defined.</p>
<p>But the common theme, and one that has been evident in each of these decisions, is that they earned it on the field. Each of these guys were longshots for the team, and pitched their way in. For those who thought last year&#8217;s squad had too much of a sense of entitlement, this should be refreshing. Of the players cut, only Clay Rapada and Casey Fien would really have an argument, and even then it would be more of a discussion.</p>
<p>Now the flip side to this is that too much shouldn&#8217;t be placed into spring training statistics. But the decisions being made (with the possible exception of Robertson) aren&#8217;t being made because of contracts. </p>
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		<title>Porcello and Perry make the team</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It appears the Rick Porcello and Ryan Perry will be breaking camp with the Tigers. Details are still thin beyond that. I&#8217;ll update as more information floats North. Also, Mike Hessman was placed on outright waivers and Ryan Raburn was optioned to Toledo. That leaves 29 players in camp including Scott Williamson, Brent Clevlen, Jeff [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="post_image_link" href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/04/porcello-and-perry-make-the-team/" title="Permanent link to Porcello and Perry make the team"><img class="post_image alignright frame" src="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/porcello-237x300.jpg" width="237" height="300" alt="Rick Porcello graduates from Lakeland - credit Roger DeWitt" /></a>
</p><p><span class="drop_cap">I</span>t appears the Rick Porcello and Ryan Perry <a href="http://www.freep.com/article/20090401/SPORTS02/90401041/1050/rss15">will be breaking camp with the Tigers</a>. Details are still thin beyond that. I&#8217;ll update as more information floats North. Also, Mike Hessman was placed on outright waivers and Ryan Raburn was optioned to Toledo. That leaves 29 players in camp including <strike>Scott Williamson</strike>, Brent Clevlen, Jeff Larish, Eddie Bonine, Juan Rincon, Zach Miner, and Nate Robertson battling for one spot in the rotation, a couple in the pen, and one on the bench. </p>
<p class="alert"><strong>UPDATE: </strong><a href="http://www.detnews.com/article/20090401/SPORTS0104/904010410/1129/rss15">Juan Rincon and Eddie Bonine are also in</a>. Dane Sardhina and Scott Williamson were assigned to minor league camp.</p>
<p class="alert"><strong>UPDATE 2:</strong> <a href="http://beck.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/04/porcello_perry_make_team_rober.html">Clay Rapada was optioned to Toledo and your second lefty in the pen is Nate Robertson</a>. It&#8217;s down to Brent Clevlen and Jeff Larish for the last roster spot.</p>
<p>So&#8230;the pitching staff looks like this:</p>
<p><strong>Rotation</strong>: Verlander/Jackson/Miner/Porcello/Galarraga (I&#8217;m guessing on the order to start the season)<br />
<strong>Bullpen</strong>: Lyon/Rodney/Seay/Rincon/Perry/Bonine/Robertson</p>
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		<title>Let the offseason begin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the World Series officially over after the longest game 5 ever, I half (actually more than half) expected the Tigers to make a trade today.&#160; When I saw a press release come across I thought my intuition was correct.&#160; Instead it was a compilation of roster moves and the hiring of a bullpen coach. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>With the World Series officially over after the longest game 5 ever, I half (actually more than half) expected the Tigers to make a trade today.&nbsp; When I saw a press release come across I thought my intuition was correct.&nbsp; Instead it was a compilation of roster moves and the hiring of a bullpen coach.</p>
<p>The Tigers rehired Jeff Jones to be the bullpen coach after firing him at the end of the season.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t find it that surprising or awkward.&nbsp; Jones had been all but assured a role in the organization and his firing was more related to the dismissal of Chuck Hernandez.&nbsp; I&#8217;d imagine Rick Knapp had the freedom to look elsewhere, but decided to stick with Jones.</p>
<p>The Tigers also announced that Dane Sardinha and Gary Glover had been outrighted and both decided to&nbsp; become free agents.&nbsp; As I imagined when Virgil Vasquez was claimed, he was one of several the team were pruning.&nbsp; <a href="http://tigers-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/glover-sardinha-out.html">Eddie speculates</a> on the motivation for the Tigers keeping Eddie Bonine and Mike Hessman on the big league roster.</p>
<p>Another spot on the 40 man roster was freed when the Tigers formally declined Edgar Renteria&#8217;s option.&nbsp; This is hardly news though since Dave Dombrowki indicated as much a month ago.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Declaring free agency <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081030&amp;content_id=3656078&amp;vkey=news_det&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=det&amp;partnerId=rss_det">was Freddy Garcia</a>.&nbsp; Garcia is still in the long toss stage after leaving the last game of the year with tightness in his greater shoulder area.&nbsp; Don&#8217;t read too much into this as it is merely a formality.&nbsp; </p>
<p>In addition to the Tigers getting their house in order, there is speculation about potential targets.&nbsp; Jason Varitek&#8217;s name has gained some steam.&nbsp; Mostly due to a <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/10/rosenthals-la-4.html">Ken Rosenthal report</a> that Scott Boras is shopping Varitek to Detroit.&nbsp; But I have to agree with the <a href="http://tigers-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/just-say-no-to-varitek.html">consensus that</a> <a href="http://trumbullandmichigan.blogspot.com/2008/10/should-tigers-make-play-for-cordero.html">this would</a> <a href="http://www.blessyouboys.com/2008/10/29/649501/should-the-tigers-seek-tek">not be a good</a> <a href="http://mvn.com/roarofthetigers/2008/10/do-trade-rumors-make-you-nervo.html">thing</a>.</p>
<p>Now Chad Cordero on the other hand&#8230;<a href="http://trumbullandmichigan.blogspot.com/2008/10/should-tigers-make-play-for-cordero.html">that&#8217;s worth considering</a> for the right price.&nbsp; And while the Tigers, like many teams, would be hesitant to offer much in the way of guaranteed money they can offer a wide open bullpen situation.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dontrelle Willis has completed the Lakeland portion of his program and will start for Toledo on Friday night. Willis worked deep into his last 2 games and only allowed 2 walks. Dombrowski said the move was made because Tigers minor league pitching coordinator Jon Matlack, minor league performance enhancement instructor Brian Peterson and Lakeland pitching [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Dontrelle Willis has completed the Lakeland portion of his program and will <a href="http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2008/08/dontrelle_willis_promoted_to_t.html">start for Toledo on Friday night.</a>  Willis worked deep into his last 2 games and only allowed 2 walks.</p>
<blockquote><p>Dombrowski said the move was made because Tigers minor league pitching coordinator Jon Matlack, minor league performance enhancement instructor Brian Peterson and Lakeland pitching coach Joe Coleman agreed he was ready.</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought it&#8217;s interesting that the Tigers have a performance enhancement instructor, or in other words a roving head coach.  I like it.</p>
<p>Willis will take Eddie Bonine&#8217;s spot in the rotation as <a href="http://tigers-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/08/bonine-out.html">Bonine is experiencing dreaded shoulder problems</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following the game tonight Eddie Bonine was optioned to Erie and Dane Sardhina was optioned to Toledo designated for assignment. Taking their places are Jeff Larish and Brandon Inge. Inge of course is returning from the disabled list. In the case of Bonine, he struggled his last 2 outings and his command was particularly good. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Following the game tonight Eddie Bonine was optioned to Erie and Dane Sardhina was <strike>optioned to Toledo</strike> designated for assignment.  Taking their places are Jeff Larish and Brandon Inge.</p>
<p>Inge of course is returning from the disabled list.</p>
<p>In the case of Bonine, he struggled his last 2 outings and his command was particularly good.  With the All Star break coming up the Tigers won&#8217;t need a 5th starter for over a week so they are giving themselves an extra bat.</p>
<p>As for who will fill that 5th starter role, I&#8217;d guess it will be Zach Miner after the break.  He was great in a 4 inning start for Toledo and will get at least one more start to further stretch his arm out prior to being needed.</p>
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		<title>Junkballing:  No shortage of news</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve got to give this Tigers team credit for one thing. There&#8217;s no shortage of news. Last week I tried to put together a timeline of all the announcements and news coming out of Jim Leyland&#8217;s office. I couldn&#8217;t get it legible at less than 1200 pixels wide. And that was before all the news [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I&#8217;ve got to give this Tigers team credit for one thing.  There&#8217;s no shortage of news.  Last week I tried to put together a<a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/chaos-theory1000.jpg" target="_blank"> timeline</a> of all the announcements and news coming out of Jim Leyland&#8217;s office.  I couldn&#8217;t get it legible at less than 1200 pixels wide.  And that was before all the news from the last week.</p>
<h3>Vance Wilson</h3>
<p>Wilson received awful news in that he needs to do Tommy John times 2.  His contract with the Tigers is up this year and with a 12 month recovery period, he is done as a Tigers player and may be facing retirement.  He&#8217;s well respected in the Tigers organization and it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to see Wilson back in another capacity in a few years.  Best wishes to Vance.</p>
<h3>Roster moves: Rapada</h3>
<p>Clay Rapada was <a href="http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2008/06/raburn_hollimon_fill_in_as_tig.html">optioned to Toledo</a> to make room for Eddie Bonine.  This isn&#8217;t a merit based demotion but a matter of the guy with options getting sent down.  It&#8217;s something we may see again next week when Rodney and Zumaya return.  Dolsi could be one of the guys out based on contract status.  Fossum, Seay, Bautista, and Lopez are all out of options.</p>
<h3>Granderson&#8217;s struggles</h3>
<p>Detroit Tiger Tales takes a look at <a href="http://www.detroittigertales.com/2008/06/whats-wrong-with-curtis-granderson.html">Curtis Granderson&#8217;s struggles.  </a>He finds among other things that Granderson is taking a lot of pitches, both out of and in the strike zone and it&#8217;s possible he&#8217;s being to passive.  That&#8217;s something I could buy, and his timing seems to be off as well with a lot of ball popped up to the left side.  I trace it back to the Tim Wakefield game.  Look at his <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=grandcu01&#038;t=b&amp;year=2008">gamelogs</a> and see what happens from May 6th onwards.  It&#8217;s a 554 OPS with only 4 walks.  Right now his OBP is the same as Pudge&#8217;s.  </p>
<h3>Zumaya-Rodney updates</h3>
<p>I think I spied Joel Zumaya in the Tigers dugout last night.  But he is experiencing <a href="http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080614/SPORTS0104/806140358/1129/rss15">some soreness in his side</a>.  If everything goes as planned he&#8217;ll pitch tonight, and then back to back on Monday and Tuesday with a possible return to the team for the San Diego series.</p>
<p>As for Rodney, he had a <a href="http://beck.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/06/rodney_solid_at_toledo_tonight.html">terrific outing for the Mud Hens</a> last night and will be back Monday provided he feels alright today.</p>
<h3>Spit balls</h3>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2008/06/trade-misconceptions/">A very insightful look at trade season.</a></li>
<li><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080613&#038;content_id=2907345&amp;vkey=news_det&#038;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=det&amp;partnerId=rss_det">Carlos Guillen is picking it at third</a></li>
<li>Renteria is dealing with pectoral soreness so <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080613&#038;content_id=2907340&amp;vkey=news_det&#038;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=det&amp;partnerId=rss_det">Michael Hollimon may get some more playing time.</a></li>
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		<title>Tigers Minor League Wrap 5-27-08</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buffalo 6 Toledo 2Eddie Bonine took his first loss getting knocked around for 11 hits in just 2 innings. Clete Thomas was 3 for 5. Jeff Larish was 1 for 1 before exiting to get on a plane. Reading 1 Erie 3Jeff Frazier went 2 for 4. Andrew Kown allowed just 4 hits, 1 a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_27_bufaaa_tolaaa_1&#038;t=g_box&amp;did=milb">Buffalo 6 Toledo 2</a><br />Eddie Bonine took his first loss getting knocked around for 11 hits in just 2 innings.  Clete Thomas was 3 for 5.  Jeff Larish was 1 for 1 before exiting to get on a plane.  <br /><a href="http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_27_reaaax_eswaax_1&#038;t=g_box&amp;did=milb"><br />Reading 1 Erie 3</a><br />Jeff Frazier went 2 for 4.  Andrew Kown allowed just 4 hits, 1 a homer, in 8 innings of 1 run ball.  He fanned 5 and walked 1.<br /><a href="http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_27_tbyafa_lakafa_1&#038;t=g_box&amp;did=milb"><br />Tampa 4 Lakeland 3</a><br />Rick Porcello allowed 10 hits and 4 runs in 6 innings.  He walked none and fanned 4 and recorded 11 ground ball outs.  Scott Sizemore went 2 for 4.  </p>
<p>West Michigan &#8211; DNP</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Toledo 8 Charlotte 1The power duo of Mike Hessman and Jeff Larish were at it again. Hessman had two homers and Larish had one. Larish added two walks and Hessman added a single. Clete Thomas had two assists gunning down a runner at third and home. Eddie Bonine pitched a complete game on 104 pitches [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_09_tolaaa_chraaa_1&amp;t=g_box&amp;did=milb">Toledo 8 Charlotte 1</a><br />The power duo of Mike Hessman and Jeff Larish were at it again.  Hessman had two homers and Larish had one.  Larish added two walks and Hessman added a single.  Clete Thomas had two assists gunning down a runner at third and home.  Eddie Bonine pitched a complete game on 104 pitches fanning 5, walking 1, and allowing 8 hits.</p>
<p><a href="http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_09_haraax_eswaax_1&amp;t=g_box&amp;did=milb">Harrisburg 4 Erie 3</a><br />Wilkin Ramirez singled and homered.  Lucas French went 8 innings and allowed 1 run on 2 walks and 2 strike outs.  Casey Fien blew the save allowing 3 runs on 2 hits, and two walks despite fanning 3.</p>
<p><a href="http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=g_box&amp;gid=2008_05_09_vbdafa_lakafa_1&amp;did=t570&amp;sid=t570">Vero Beach 5 Lakeland 2</a><br />Cale Iorg singled and walked and stole 2 bases.  Luis Marte fanned 6 and walked 1 while allowing 3 runs over 6 innings.</p>
<p><a href="http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_09_wmiafx_lanafx_1&amp;t=g_box&amp;did=milb">West Michigan 3 Lansing 7</a><br />Chris Carlson was a triple short of the cycle.  Alfredo Figaro went 6 innings allowing 2 runs on 4 hits, a walk, and 5 K&#8217;s.  Noah Krol didn&#8217;t record an out but allowed 4 runs.</p>
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