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		<title>The Michael Young Trade That&#8217;s Not Going to Happen (to any team)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 05:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kevin in Dallas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a guy who has widely been regarded as the &#8220;face of the franchise&#8221; for so long, the Rangers sure have put Michael Young through a lot. First, in 2004, coming off of a superb defensive year at 2B, the Rangers asked Young to move to SS in order to make room for Alfonso Soriano, [...]]]></description>
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</p><p>For a guy who has widely been regarded as the &#8220;face of the franchise&#8221; for so long, the Rangers sure have put Michael Young through a lot.</p>
<p>First, in 2004, coming off of a superb defensive year at 2B, the Rangers asked Young to move to SS in order to make room for Alfonso Soriano, who was a 2B equivalent of Roger Dorn.  Young said no, then relented when Rangers&#8217; brass ignored his bluff.  He went on to make the AS team at 2B for five years in a row, and won a Gold Glove in 2008.  I&#8217;m not sure how he did, but remember that Derek Jeter&#8217;s living room is full of Gold Gloves.</p>
<p>But that wasn&#8217;t good enough for the Rangers, so in 2009, they asked him to move to 3B to make room for the fielding wizardry of Elvis Andrus.  (Side note, Andrus makes at least one play every game that is worth the price of admission.  Kid is sick.)  Young balked and asked for a trade over the winter. He then rescinded that request and agreed to move to 3B.  He again made the All Star team, this time as a third basemen, in 2009 and had a tremendous year at the plate.</p>
<p>Now, only two years removed from that position swap, the Rangers have asked Young to move again, to DH, in order to make room for Adrian Beltre. It&#8217;s a tough call PR wise based on what Young has done and meant to the Rangers over the years, but it&#8217;s an easy call when you look at the numbers.</p>
<p>Thus, as a result, <a href="http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/02/rangers-confirm-michael-young.html" target="_blank">Young put himself on the trading block</a>.  He began with a list of 8 potential suitors, but by all accounts he&#8217;ll go anywhere with a decent chance to win and an open infield position.</p>
<p>So how about a swap for Carlos Guillen?  The Rangers could use a left handed DH/utility guy/fourth outfielder, and their salaries are almost a wash.  They are roughly the same age (Young is a year younger), and are entering the twilights of their respective careers.  (I&#8217;m sure there would be some PsTBNL in there, but you get my drift.)</p>
<p>I gotta admit, I was at first intrigued by the possibility of Young playing 2B for the Tigers.  It&#8217;s a big hole for us, and one that he could fill well.  Michael Young was above league average defensively at 2B, and his Placido Polanco type bat (with a lot more pop), would do well in the two hole.  From a salary perspective, Young is owed $16M, $16M and $16M, but when you consider that Carlos Guillen is going to get paid $13M in 2011, it&#8217;s easy to think that the Rangers could give some cash to fill the 2012 and 2013 voids.  Moreover, Young has played in 155+ games in 8/9 seasons, with the low being 134 in 2009 (yes, that&#8217;s 155!).  Guillen, on the other hand, has only played in 134+ games 3 times in his 7 years with the Tigers.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the deeper I dug, the less sense it made.  Not because Guillen is the answer, but because Young is no longer a great player.  His career OPS+ is 105 (Guillen&#8217;s is 111), and Young&#8217;s is only that high because of his tremendous 2005 and 2009 seasons.  Without those years, he&#8217;s a career 99 as a regular.  Moreover, his range factor relative to the league has been abysmal over the past two years (and was a serious source of concern following game 1 of the ALCS, and game 1 of the World Series).  Finally, his 2011 salary would be easy for me to swallow based on Guillen&#8217;s, but 2012 and 2013 would be virtually impossible years for Young to perform up to salary expectations.</p>
<p>And, I&#8217;ll give you that I&#8217;m intrigued to see what Sizemore/Rhymes can do.  Not that I saw much out of them last year, but they are young and cheap.</p>
<p>But I still feel for Michael Young.  Across the phone lines and newsstands, no one is coming to his defense.  Literally, no one.  Well, <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Video-A-3-year-old-s-sad-reaction-to-the-Michae?urn=mlb-320314" target="_blank">except for this kid</a>. For years and years he was lauded as the ultimate team player, and the consummate professional.  His trade demands in 2009 struck a chord, and now it looks like his suspect defense and bloated salary have caught up to him.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, he&#8217;s a nice player, but not $48M over 3 years nice.</p>
<p>Anyway, now it looks like there are no takers around the league.  Despite strong interest from Colorado and some from the Angels, word around here is that <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110210&amp;content_id=16612524&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;c_id=mlb" target="_blank">Young will likely be</a> with the Rangers through Spring Training.  The way that some of this has played out in the media has been a sports editor&#8217;s dream.  Check out the quotes from Michael Young <a href="http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/02/michael-young-ive-been-misled.html" target="_blank">here</a>, and the management&#8217;s innuendos <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AqN0VaPuAMwbyHnp8wGprbkRvLYF?slug=ap-rangers-youngsfuture" target="_blank">here</a>.  I mean, did Daniels basically say that trading Young would upgrade his team?  It&#8217;s too bad.  Young doesn&#8217;t want to be here.  The Rangers don&#8217;t want him.  Seems like someone out there could find a way to make this work.  Though I don&#8217;t think<a href="http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/grota-cubs/2011/02/michael-young-is-available-should-the-cubs-offer-soriano-and-cash.html" target="_blank"> Alfonso Soriano is the answer</a>.</p>
<p>Pitchers and Catchers, three days.</p>
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		<title>What does Damon do about Damon?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kevin in Dallas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should Damon stay or should he go?]]></description>
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</p><p>(don&#8217;t laugh at the graphic, I&#8217;m still learning)</p>
<p>Well, <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100823&amp;content_id=13820378&amp;vkey=news_det&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=det" target="_blank">Johnny Damon has been claimed off of waivers</a> by the Red Sox.  <a href="http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2010/08/tigers_star_johnny_damon_discu.html" target="_blank">Damon seems as if he wants to stay</a>, but it must be tough considering DD (and perhaps JL) would rather give someone else his playing time.  If you will recall, Damon parted with the Red Sox nation on less than ideal terms after they failed to <a href="http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/sawx_make_move_to_get_back_damon_AHAsmF5JEamitmQ5Hu7Y0H" target="_blank">make signing him a priority</a>; though the current <a href="http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2010/08/24/damon_put_on_spot_about_return_to_red_sox/" target="_blank">Red Sox clubhouse</a> is saying all the right things to woo him back.</p>
<p>On the field, his contributions to the Tigers have been positive, though not quite to the extent that we were hoping.  He&#8217;s got an OPS+ of 106, but most of that comes from the OBP component, as he has only 40 extra base hits.  Moreover, he&#8217;s primarily been a DH appearing in only 36 games in left.  On the other hand, he seems to be a voice in the club house and was responsible for the first<a href="http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2010/05/johnny_damon_makes_tigers_winn.html" target="_blank"> walk-off HR of the season </a>(that I can remember).</p>
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		<title>Wrapping up the week</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s Sunday evening and this concludes my foray into full time blogging. I took this week off to delve into the winter meetings and cover them to the best of my ability. It proved to be an especially eventful week for Tigers fans and this blog. With that we’ll do one last set of hot stove rumors and news nuggets and a couple other thoughts as well.]]></description>
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</p><p>It’s Sunday evening and this concludes my foray into full time blogging. I took this week off to delve into the winter meetings and cover them to the best of my ability. It proved to be an especially eventful week for Tigers fans and this blog. With that we’ll do one last set of hot stove rumors and news nuggets and a couple other thoughts as well.</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=494&amp;position=P">Fernando Rodney</a> seems to have priced himself out of 2010. His reported <a href="http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2009/12/13/tough_players_leave_yankees_with_a_tough_call/?page=full">asking price of 3 years and $30 million</a> has a retro-2007 feel to it.</li>
<li>Saturday at midnight was the non-tender deadline – or the tender deadline depending on how you look at it. The Tigers tendered contracts to all their eligible players. I was surprised to see Bobby Seay, who will likely make $2 million next year, tendered given the Tigers impetus to shed payroll and the surplus of lefty relievers.</li>
<li>Here is the <a href="http://bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=3811:39-players-non-tendered-now-free-agents&amp;catid=66:free-agency-and-trades&amp;Itemid=153">complete list of non-tenders</a>. One name that will receive some consideration is Kelley Johnson. <a href="http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2009/12/13/does-kelly-johnson-have-anything-left-to-give/">Baseball Digest Daily</a> takes a look to see if he has anything left to offer.</li>
<li>The Tigers haven’t decided on Phil Coke’s role for 2010, but <a href="http://riveraveblues.com/2009/12/coke-a-starter-in-detroit-not-likely-21165/">River Ave Blues</a> doesn’t think starter would be a good choice.</li>
<li>There is a pretty in depth analysis of <a href="http://projectprospect.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&amp;t=5886&amp;view=unread#p79772">Austin Jackson’s swing mechanics</a> at Project Prospect (h/t Kurt who is now at <a href="http://blessyouboys.com">Bless You Boys</a>).</li>
<li>Speaking of which, Ian Casselberry has run the good ship BYB for the last 3 years and he’s done a tremendous job. He’s stepping down, but putting the site into the more-than-capable hands of Kurt Mensching. Kurt you may know as the proprietor of <a href="http://mackavenuetigers.com">Mack Avenue Tigers</a>. Best wishes to Ian and good luck to Kurt.</li>
<li>Juan Pierre, who the Tigers were linked to in a potential 3 team deal involving Carlos Guillen, may also be <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1936617,CST-SPT-sox13.article">a target of the White Sox</a>.</li>
<li><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10509588/Buzz:-Latest-Hot-Stove-news">Marcus Thames is attracting attention</a> from the Indians and the Blue Jays.</li>
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<h3>Some final thoughts</h3>
<p><strong>On the trade: </strong>I have been critical of the deal on a number of fronts. I stand behind that. I don’t think the Tigers got the short end of the deal though. I’m excited to see what Austin Jackson can do and seeing <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3137&amp;position=P">Max Scherzer</a> join the top of the rotation should mean the Tigers are in games the majority of the time. I also hope for those that have an emotional reaction to the trade they don’t take it out on the new players, or on the players who have the hefty contracts. Ordonez earned his contract and is entitled to the money. Jackson won’t be Granderson next year and measuring his accomplishments against Granderson’s is unfair. Plus everything I’ve heard about Jackson is that he is a great kid and he deserves a chance. Let’s give everyone a chance.</p>
<p><strong>On blogging full time</strong>: Wow. I don’t know how guys like Matthew Cerrone (<a href="http://metsblog.com">MetsBlog</a>) and Tim Dierkes (<a href="http://mlbtraderumors.com">MLB Trade Rumors</a>) do it. After one week and 30 posts I’m exhausted – and I took Friday off! I did find it exciting though to be flipping between Tweetdeck, Google Reader, checking email, and hitting refresh on a number of sites as the rumors flowed and the deals came together. It ended up being the biggest week ever at DTW with 3 of the 4 biggest traffic days in the site’s history coming this week. I hope you found this site to be a place full of accurate and up to date information this week. We’ll now be returning to a much more modest 4-5 posts per week schedule. I’ll also be deciding what to do with the new post carousel at the top of the page. What do you think?</p>
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		<title>Winter Meetings Day 4</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last day of a very active winter meetings for Tigers fans is upon us. A look at what took place yesterday and what may take place today follows.]]></description>
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</p><p>The last day of a very active winter meetings for Tigers fans is upon us. A look at what took place yesterday and what may take place today follows.</p>
<ul>
<li>With all the medical records eventually checking out <a href="http://detroittigersweblog.com/tag/grandy-trade">the trade</a> became complete and the 3 GM’s <a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/12/more-notes-on-the-trade/">had their press conference</a> while Leyland fretted about the lack of a leadoff hitter and a lineup that is very right handed.</li>
<li>The new Tigers <a href="http://www.freep.com/article/20091210/SPORTS02/91210010/1050/rss15">met with the media</a> and provided their thoughts on coming to Detroit. <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5535&amp;position=P">Phil Coke</a> is prepared to start or relieve and <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=8739&amp;position=P">Daniel Schlereth</a>’s fiancée is from Michigan and the new in-laws were already Tigers fans.Meanwhile old Tiger <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4747&amp;position=OF">Curtis Granderson</a> talked about how hard it is to leave Detroit.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=2312&amp;position=C">Dusty Ryan</a> and <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5424&amp;position=P">Freddy Dolsi</a> were DFA’d to make room on the big league roster.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1312&amp;position=P">Brandon Lyon</a> signed <a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/12/brandon-lyon-signs-with-houston/">a 3 year deal with the Astros</a> leaving the Tigers to pursue <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=494&amp;position=P">Fernando Rodney</a> or <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1793&amp;position=P">Kevin Gregg</a> as closer options. <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1795&amp;position=P">J.J. Putz</a> was also linked to the Tigers but <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/white-sox-close-on-jj-putz.html">he may end up with the White Sox</a> instead.</li>
<li>The Tigers are reportedly <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/tigers-four-others-interested-in-podsednik.html">one of five teams</a> interested in <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1095&amp;position=OF">Scott Podsednik</a>.</li>
<li>The Rule 5 draft is this morning. The Tigers roster is full at 40 meaning they can’t participate, but they could still lose players.</li>
</ul>
<p>This should be old hat by now, but here are all the ways to <a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=5612">keep up with the Winter Meetings at DTW</a>.</p>
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		<title>Carlos Guillen Rumors</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The latest buzz is that the Tigers are are trying to move Carlos Guillen, and there may be some sort of partnership with the Dodgers to acquire Juan Pierre. But it appears that both teams are in need of 3rd team to fill in the blanks.]]></description>
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</p><p><span class="drop_cap">T</span>he latest buzz is that the Tigers are are trying to move <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1079&amp;position=SS">Carlos Guillen</a>, and there may be some sort of partnership with the Dodgers to acquire <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=443&amp;position=OF">Juan Pierre</a>. But it appears that both teams are in need of 3rd team to fill in the blanks.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10496890">Fox Sports boys</a> report that the Dodgers are looking for a reliable starter with a bad contract to swap for Juan Pierre who is owed<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> $26 million</span> $18.5 million over the next 2 seasons. The Tigers have plenty of bad contract pitchers, but none are really considered reliable meaning the Dodgers and Tigers need to involve a third team to complete things.</p>
<p>Pierre is a below average hitter who&#8217;s only value is derived from batting average (like Polanco but faster). With the glove he is average-ish in centerfield according to fangraphs. Color me not thrilled.</p>
<p>There is another aspect to consider with a potential Guillen move. He lives near Miguel Cabrera in Venezuela. I also get the impression he is a team leader. I think as much as the Tigers would like to move the contract, they&#8217;d also like Guillen around to mentor the younger Cabrera. I&#8217;m not big on keeping guys for the sake of their clubhouse presence, but there are some more involved circumstances here.</p>
<p>UPDATE: Jason Beck <a href="http://twitter.com/beckjason/statuses/6507499563">spoke with Guillen&#8217;s agent</a> who has not been contacted. Guillen is a 10-5 player meaning he&#8217;d have to approve any trade.</p>
<p><small>Image credit <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/lakelandlocal/4068480879/sizes/s/">lakelandlocal on flickr</a></small></p>
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		<title>Winter Meetings Day 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Tigers fans let us just hope that today is relatively boring. The Tigers will remain active and the roster will continue to change but hopefully we’re done with franchise-type players leaving. In the meantime here’s a recap of what happened yesterday – including some late notes – as well as a look at what may happen today.]]></description>
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</p><p>As Tigers fans let us just hope that today is relatively boring. The Tigers will remain active and the roster will continue to change but hopefully we’re done with franchise-type players leaving. In the meantime here’s a recap of what happened yesterday – including some late notes – as well as a look at what may happen today.</p>
<ul>
<li>There was a <a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/tag/grandy-trade/">pretty big trade</a> that went down. Baseball America compiled <a href="http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/trade-central/2009/269252.html">scouting reports on the Tigers return</a> and Baseball Prospectus <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1461">talked with Arizona manager A.J. Hinch</a></li>
<li>Despite the Tigers adding a few bullpen arms, they are still looking for <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/tigers-expanding-search-for-veteran-reliever.html">a veteran closer</a>. Some names linked to the Tigers are <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1793&amp;position=P" target="_blank">Kevin Gregg</a> and <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1795&amp;position=P" target="_blank">J.J. Putz</a>. Also don’t rule out a return of <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1312&amp;position=P" target="_blank">Brandon Lyon</a> or <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=494&amp;position=P" target="_blank">Fernando Rodney</a>. Tim Kurkjian reported on Baseball Tonight that he spoke with a Tigers source that said the team would be comfortable with either option.</li>
<li>The Tigers have to free up a couple of roster spots when the trade is official announced (which could come today if the medical reports are signed off on). I’d look for <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1225&amp;position=P">Bobby Seay</a> to be either traded or non-tendered.</li>
<li>The Tigers signed <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3248&amp;position=C">Robinzon Diaz</a> to a minor league contract giving them some additional depth if Alex Avila isn’t ready yet.</li>
<li>Jon Morosi tweeted late last night that there <a href="http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/statuses/6490141560">has been some interest</a> in <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1079&amp;position=SS">Carlos Guillen</a>.</li>
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		<title>Day 2 Granderson and Jackson buzz</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While it seems that the blockbuster Yankees-Diamondbacks-Tigers trade may be a long shot at this  point, the Tigers will likely still continue to be active on this front. I’d still say that a Curtis Granderson trade is a long shot, but an Edwin Jackson deal seems likely. We’ll keep track of the buzz here.]]></description>
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</p><p class="alert"><strong>UPDATE 1:37 PM:</strong>Shit. <a href="http://twitter.com/nyp_joelsherman/statuses/6471060236">Granderson&#8217;s medical records sent to Yanks</a>.</p>
<p class="note"><strong>UPDATE 1:20 PM:</strong> We may know soon enough (or too soon if you ask me). Ed Price says the Tigers are waiting for the Yankees to sign off on 3-way deal and <a href="http://twitter.com/ed_price/statuses/6470664588">a decision is expected by 2pm</a>. Rosenthal <a href="http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/6470643702">says one of the lefties</a> (Coke or Dunn) is out of the original deal. <a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/hardball/after_setback_yankees_granderson_iQYDj1G4AqzN3n9kokryPI">Joel Sherman</a> has more on the framework of a proposed deal where the Tigers would get Schereth, Scherzer, A Jackson, and one other pitcher.</p>
<p class="note"><strong>UPDATE 12:33 PM</strong>: There&#8217;s way too much smoke for their not to be fire unless everybody is just getting their information from each other. Heyman just tweeted that a direct Yankees/Tigers deal would involve Granderson, Austin Jackson, Ian Kennedy, and Phil Coke. That&#8217;s not enough in my mind for Granderson &#8211; especially given his very reasonable contract and the fact the Tigers don&#8217;t HAVE to trade him.<a href="http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/statuses/6469275325"> Another tweet</a> and its a 3 way where the Tigers get Scherleth, Scherzer, A Jackson, and Coke. A better haul to be sure. Everybody (ESPN, SI, Fox) is saying things that are way too similar here. Olney has info in the <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove09/news/story?id=4717538">ESPN live tracker</a> that the Tigers are the ones who reignited talks. I hate the idea of the Tigers compromising.</p>
<p class="note"><strong>UPDATE 11:28 AM:</strong>Jon Morosi notes that <a href="http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/6467634568">the Tigers are interested</a> in Angels centerfield prospect <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=bourjo001pet">Peter Bourjous</a>. Bourjous posted a 281/354/423 line as a 22 year old at AA&#8230;Mark Feisand thinks the talks of <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/yankees/2009/12/winter-meetings-day-2.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nydnrss%2Fblogs%2Fyankees+%28Blogs%2FBlogging+the+Bombers%29">Granderson to the Yankees aren&#8217;t dead</a>, but it wouldn&#8217;t be for the same set of prospects as originally reported and throws in that the Mariners are expected to make a Grandy push. He also says <a href="http://twitter.com/BloggingBombers/statuses/6467867251">the Tigers may be caving on their price </a>for Granderson (NO!)&#8230;Jon Heyman says <a href="http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/statuses/6467827349">the talks are being resuscitated</a> as well.</p>
<p><span class="drop_cap">W</span>hile it seems that the blockbuster Yankees-Diamondbacks-Tigers trade may be a long shot at this  point, the Tigers will likely still continue to be active on this front. I’d still say that a <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4747&amp;position=OF">Curtis Granderson</a> trade is a long shot, but an <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1841&amp;position=P">Edwin Jackson</a> deal seems likely. We’ll keep track of the buzz here.</p>
<p>As of 10:30 this morning, various sources are reporting that the blockbuster is <a href="http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/6464945232" target="_blank">dormant</a>. The Yankees don&#8217;t like the prospect cost and <a href="http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/6464627499" target="_blank">various</a> reports say the Tigers aren&#8217;t thrilled with their take either. Phil Rogers tweets that there <a href="http://twitter.com/ChiTribRogers/status/6466323268" target="_blank">is no movement on the Cubs front</a> for Granderson either.</p>
<p><small>Image credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/soldiersmediacenter/4109620600/" target="_blank">The US Army on flickr</a>. As an aside, for all the talk of Granderson’s community service (which is warranted), Jackson is very active when it comes to working with soldiers and making appearances as well. The above photo was taken at Fort Hood this November.</small></p>
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		<title>Winter Meetings Day 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first day of the Winter Meetings has come to an end and the sun is coming up on a snowy second day. For Tigers fans there was no shortage of news and drama. The recap follows.]]></description>
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</p><p><span class="drop_cap">T</span>he first day of the Winter Meetings has come to an end and the sun is coming up on a snowy second day. For Tigers fans there was no shortage of news and drama. To recap:</p>
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<li>The Tigers were tied to several relievers including <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1793&amp;position=P" target="_blank">Kevin Gregg</a>, <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=6291&amp;position=P" target="_blank">George Sherrill</a>, and as of <a href="http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/statuses/6457003033" target="_blank">a late night rumor</a> <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1795&amp;position=P" target="_blank">J.J. Putz</a></li>
<li>Two of their own relievers both turned down salary arbitration in <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1312&amp;position=P" target="_blank">Brandon Lyon</a> and <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=494&amp;position=P" target="_blank">Fernando Rodney</a></li>
<li>The Tigers traded Clay Rapada to the Rangers for cash considerations</li>
<li>The Tigers signed reliever Brad Thomas who had pitched the last two years in Korea and they made room for him by outrighting Zach Simons to Toledo</li>
<li><a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1430&amp;position=SS" target="_blank">Adam Everett</a> inked a 1 year deal to return and be the heavy side of a shortstop timeshare with <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1417&amp;position=2B/SS" target="_blank">Ramon Santiago</a>.</li>
<li>And there was a <a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/12/granderson-and-jackson-nuggets/" target="_blank">bevy</a> of <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1841&amp;position=P">Edwin Jackson</a> and <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4747&amp;position=OF">Curtis Granderson</a> speculation culminating in a rumored  potential (and potentially dead) <a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/12/the-blockbuster-that-stalled/" target="_blank">3-way deal</a> with the Yankees and Diamondbacks.</li>
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<blockquote class="right"><p>“Tomorrow will bring a different tone in conversations,” Dombrowski said Monday.</p></blockquote>
<p>Day 2 figures to have much more of the same, but talks <a href="http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2009/12/brandon_lyon_fernando_rodney_d.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+detroit-tigers+%28Detroit+Tigers+Impact+-+MLive.com%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader" target="_blank">are likely to intensify</a> as Dombrowski tries to sort out the back of their bullpen.</p>
<p>My feeling is that they don’t want to spend a lot, but that they want some established presence closing games. Lyon and Rodney were both in that mix had they accepted arbitration. Neither are necessarily out of that discussion but the Tigers no longer have to hold a potential spot for them.</p>
<p>And all those rumors swirling around the Tigers, <a href="http://www.detnews.com/article/20091208/SPORTS0104/912080327/1129/rss15" target="_blank">Lynn Henning caught up with Dombrowski</a>. Dombrowski said the deals make sense from a baseball perspective, but not to believe everything you hear.</p>
<p>Taking of some administrative functions, I ran things a little differently on the site with the most active (posts getting multiple updates throughout the day) or relevant posts staying at the top of the list with a carousel of recent posts at the very top. Does this work for people or should I return to straight reverse-chronological?</p>
<p>As a reminder,<a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/12/the-winter-meetings-at-dtw/"> there are many ways to follow the Winter Meetings</a> at the Detroit Tigers Weblog</p>
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		<title>The blockbuster that stalled</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi report that the framework for a blockbuster deal (h/t) between the Tigers, the Diamondbacks, and the Yankees was in place before at least one of the teams pulled out. The Tigers would have sent Edwin Jackson to Arizona, Curtis Granderson to the Yankees, and they would have received Max Scherzer with other young players floating to each team involved.]]></description>
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</p><p><span class="drop_cap">K</span>en Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi report that the framework for <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10475170" target="_blank">a blockbuster deal</a> (<a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/yanks-tigers-dbacks-discussed-blockbuster.html" target="_blank">h/t</a>) between the Tigers, the Diamondbacks, and the Yankees was in place before at least one of the teams pulled out. The Tigers would have sent <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1841&amp;position=P">Edwin Jackson</a> to Arizona, <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4747&amp;position=OF">Curtis Granderson</a> to the Yankees, and <a href="http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/6453587012" target="_blank">they would have received Max Scherzer</a> with other young players floating to each team involved.</p>
<p>This would mesh with the various reports throughout the day that Arizona was looking like the destination for Jackson, and it also connects the dots on a report from Nick Piercoro about <a href="http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/NickPiecoro/69041" target="_blank">a third team being needed for the Diamondbacks to give up Scherzer</a> (<a href="http://www.blessyouboys.com/2009/12/7/1190525/jackson-to-d-backs-rumors-picking" target="_blank">h/t</a>).</p>
<p>From the sounds of the Fox Sports report it wasn’t Arizona who balked on the deal meaning it was the Tigers and/or the Yankees who passed. The Tigers had set their price for Granderson as Phil Hughes and Austin Jackson and with Jackson included in an outbound package I’d guess the Tigers would have been looking for Scherzer, either Jackson or Hughes, and then probably an additional prospect from the Yankees.</p>
<p class="alert">UPDATE: The Tigers would have received Scherzer, Jackson, Phil Coke, and Mike Dunn</p>
<p>What we don’t know is if this deal is dead, or just dormant.</p>
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		<title>Granderson and Jackson nuggets</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no real news on the Curtis Granderson and Edwin Jackson trade fronts, but here is a roundup of some news and related tweets from this morning.]]></description>
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</p><p class="alert"><strong>UPDATE: 10:01 PM</strong>: Things seem to have really slowed down. For Nightengale&#8217;s insistence that the Tigers want to move Granderson this week, <a href="http://twitter.com/cst_cubs/status/6445164004">others</a> <a href="http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2009/12/are_mets_a_player_in_edwin_jac.html">aren&#8217;t seeing</a> the same things. Buster Olney on Baseball Tonight said the Tigers asked for Austin Jackson and Phil Hughes from the Yankees for Grandy and from the Cubs they wanted Starlin Castro and 2 pitching prospects. Phil Rogers says <a href="http://twitter.com/ChiTribRogers/statuses/6446774571">the Mariners may be in on Granderson</a> and Ed Price further confirms <a href="http://twitter.com/ed_price/statuses/6446789595">the Diamondbacks interest in Edwin Jackson</a>. And Dombrowski has <a href="http://twitter.com/beckjason/statuses/6446426460">a weak denial</a> (my interpretation) that the team is close to any deals.</p>
<p class="note"><strong>UPDATE 4:54 PM</strong>Foxsports.com <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10475170">has updated their site</a> reiterating that a deal is close for Jackson but still call Arizona and Seattle as the favorites. Joel Sherman said <a href="http://twitter.com/nyp_joelsherman/statuses/6442936670">Mariners officials are downplaying their interest</a> while Ed Price said the Tigers are mulling over <a href="http://twitter.com/ed_price/statuses/6442261630">a dozen offers</a> for the right hander. Morosi says the <a href="http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/statuses/6442862738">Angels are still in</a> on both Granderson and Jackson.</p>
<p class="note"><strong>UPDATE 4:18 PM</strong>: Foxsports.com reports the Tigers are <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10475170">close to trading Jackson</a> and lists the D&#8217;backs and Mariners but rule out the Dodgers, Brewers, and Mets. Buster Olney tweets <a href="http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/statuses/6440712726">the asking price for Jackson is very hig</a>h. The Chicago Tribune says lobby buzz is that <a href="http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/12/curtis-granderson-a-yankee.html">the Yankees are hot on the trail of Granderson</a>. Ed Price calls interest <a href="http://twitter.com/ed_price/statuses/6442032431">lukewarm because of unwillingness to deal Austin Jackson</a>.</p>
<p class="note"><strong>UPDATE 3:14 PM:</strong>Ed Price <a href="http://twitter.com/ed_price/status/6440014794">tweeted rumor that the Mets acquired Edwin Jackson</a>, but then quickly <a href="http://twitter.com/ed_price/status/6440184494">clarified</a> and <a href="http://twitter.com/KenDavidoff/statuses/6440324516">Mets officials issued a denial</a>.</p>
<p class="note"><strong>UPDATE 1:59 PM</strong>: Bob Nightengale tweets <a href="http://twitter.com/BNightengale/statuses/6438679050">the Tigers are close to trading Edwin Jackson</a>. No mention of where that might be though.</p>
<p><span class="drop_cap">T</span>here is no real news on the <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4747&amp;position=OF">Curtis Granderson</a> and <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1841&amp;position=P">Edwin Jackson</a> trade fronts, but here is a roundup of some news and related tweets from this morning.</p>
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<li>Joel Sherman spoke with an official from another team that thinks <a href="http://twitter.com/nyp_joelsherman/statuses/6434202475" target="_blank">the Yankees really want Granderson</a>.</li>
<li>The Cubs and Yankees have been mentioned as two potential destinations for Granderson. Not coincidentally both have some interest in Mike Cameron and <a href="http://twitter.com/nyp_joelsherman/statuses/6434118716" target="_blank">according to Sherman</a> the Cubs like Melky Cabrera. I don’t know what this all means.</li>
<li>Dave Sheinin of the Washington Post said the Nationals (<a href="http://twitter.com/nyp_joelsherman/statuses/6437187268" target="_blank">who just traded for Brian Bruney</a>) are looking for veteran starting pitching help and mentions <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/03/AR2009120303910.html" target="_blank">Edwin Jackson as a potential target</a> (<a href="http://www.federalbaseball.com/2009/12/5/1186410/washington-nationals-winter" target="_blank">h/t</a>). I don’t know that <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/12/01/farm.systems/index.html" target="_blank">the Nats have the pieces</a> to do it though.</li>
<li>Be it the Nats or one of the other 28 teams, Bob Nightengale surveys the buzz and <a href="http://twitter.com/BNightengale/statuses/6428517467" target="_blank">says Jackson will be dealt soon</a>.</li>
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<p><small>Image credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/spilt-milk/639108699/" target="_blank">yoppy on flickr</a></small></p>
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		<title>Tigers interested in George Sherrill?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For all the talk of the Tigers being broke, the Dodgers might be in a tougher situation. They didn’t offer any of their players arbitration and now they are looking to move players, including reliever George Sherrill. Matthew Pouilot notes that the Tigers might be a fit for a deal where Sherrill and a prospect [...]]]></description>
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</p><p><span class="drop_cap">F</span>or all the talk of the Tigers being broke, the Dodgers might be in a tougher situation. They didn’t offer any of their players arbitration and now they are looking to move players, <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10357594" target="_blank">including reliever</a> <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=6291&amp;position=P" target="_blank">George Sherrill</a>.</p>
<p>Matthew Pouilot notes that the <a href="http://bases.nbcsports.com/2009/12/another-sign-dodgers-are-broke-sherrill-up-for-grabs.html.php" target="_blank">Tigers might be a fit for a deal</a> where Sherrill and a prospect head to Detroit in exchange for <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1841&amp;position=P">Edwin Jackson</a>. Pouilot also mentions the Rangers, Rays, and Phillies as potential suitors.</p>
<p>The lefty reliever made $2.75 million last year and in 2010 he enters <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">his last year of arbitration eligibility</span> his last 2 years of arbitration eligibility before becoming a free agent. Sherrill keep his strikeout rate above 9 and he generally keeps his walks a touch over 3 except for 2 outlier years in 2006 and 2008. While his FIP projection is similar to Bobby Seay’s, Sherrill did it as a general reliever and not a LOOGY like Seay did making his numbers more impressive.</p>
<p>Steve Kornacki also concocts a Sherrill to Detroit trade scenario <a href="http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2009/12/tigers_dave_dombrowski_heads_t.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+detroit-tigers+%28Detroit+Tigers+Impact+-+MLive.com%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader" target="_blank">that also includes Juan Pierre and Carlos Guillen switching uniforms</a>. While getting out from under Guillen’s contract would be helpful the Tigers would be taking on $18.5 million of Pierre’s salary over the next 2 seasons. I also disagree with his assessment of Pierre helping the top of the order.</p>
<p>Sherrill would be a nice addition to the Tigers pen, but I’d be surprised to see the Tigers offering up significant players or money to acquire bullpen help given organizational depth provided by Robbie Weinhardt, Cody Satterwhite, Zach Simons, Casey Fien, and others.</p>
<p class="note">UPDATE 8:47 PM: Ned Colletti <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/dodgers-notes-.html">shoots down rumors</a> about the Dodgers shopping Sherrill</p>
<p><small>Image credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithallison/3637171991/">Keith Allison on Flickr</a></small></p>
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		<title>Why moving Cabrera could make it harder to keep Verlander</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The good news for Tigers fans is that according to Jon Paul Morosi a couple of sources say it is unlikely that the Tigers trade Miguel Cabrera this week. Salary relief would of course be nice, but Morosi raises another good point. Trading away a team’s best player likely sends the wrong message to the player you’d like to keep around.]]></description>
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</p><p><span class="drop_cap">T</span>he good news for Tigers fans is that according to Jon Paul Morosi a couple of sources say it is <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10476090/Sources:-Tigers-not-likely-to-trade-Cabrera-next-week">unlikely that the Tigers trade Miguel Cabrera this week</a>. Salary relief would of course be nice, but Morosi raises another good point. Trading away a team’s best player likely sends the wrong message to the player you’d like to keep around.</p>
<blockquote><p>Verlander, who is on the verge of receiving a big raise in salary arbitration, is on track to become a free agent after the 2011 season. If the Tigers trade prominent players such as Granderson and Jackson, they may have a difficult time convincing Verlander to remain in Detroit for the long term.</p></blockquote>
<p>It’s quite the conundrum for the Tigers. The cash saved by in the future by moving Miguel Cabrera or <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4747&amp;position=OF">Curtis Granderson</a> would certainly help with the flexibility to sign <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=8700&amp;position=P">Justin Verlander</a> but it would also make the climate less attractive. Verlander will get his money regardless so he’ll be able to look for a favorable situation.</p>
<p>As for what it will take to sign Verlander, we can start by looking at some rumors swirling around Felix Hernandez who like Verlander is 2 years removed from free agency. Ken Rosenthal reports that <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10357594/Latest-buzz-from-the-MLB-offseason">the two sides are far apart</a> on a long term deal where the starting point was a 4 year $45 million offer.</p>
<p>Hernandez should command more because as good as Verlander has been, <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/comparison.aspx?playerid=4772&amp;playerid2=8700&amp;playerid3=&amp;position=P&amp;page=0&amp;type=full">King Felix has been better</a> and is 3 years younger. Still, it would take probably $20 million to buy out Verlander’s 2 arbitration years and then $15-18 million per year after that at least.</p>
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		<title>Milton Bradley talks not close</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jon Heyman writes today that things aren’t very close in a proposed Milton Bradley for Pat Burrell swap between the Rays and the Cubs. This doesn’t have a direct impact on the Tigers, but it is worth watching because there is speculation that the Cubs would want to move Bradley before setting their sights on Curtis Granderson.]]></description>
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</p><p><span class="drop_cap">J</span>on Heyman writes today that <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/12/06/milton.bradley/index.html">things aren’t very close in a proposed Milton Bradley for Pat Burrell swap</a> between the Rays and the Cubs. This doesn’t have a direct impact on the Tigers, but it is worth watching because there is speculation that <a href="http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/12/granderson-still-a-tiger.html">the Cubs would want to move Bradley</a> before setting their sights on <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4747&amp;position=OF">Curtis Granderson</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://fireleyland.blogspot.com/2009/10/exploring-milton-bradleys-potential.html">Some</a> in the <a href="http://blog.mlive.com/its-just-sports/2009/10/fixing_the_tigers.html">Tigers blogosphere</a> had suggested that <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=369&amp;position=OF">Milton Bradley</a> may be a decent acquisition for the Tigers if it involved a swap of undesirable contracts. Bradley will earn $10 million in 2010 and $11 million in 2011.</p>
<p>Bradley is coming off a year that saw his power drop dramatically as he only mustered a .397 slugging percentage. He hit fewer line drives and more groundballs but managed to maintain a health .378 OBP.</p>
<p>UPDATE: Thanks to Ben and Lee for pointing to this<a href="http://twitter.com/injuryexpert/status/6386452194"> related note from Will Carroll</a> that Mike Cameron is also in the Cubs mix, which if he was signed would likely kill Granderson trade talk as far as the Cubs were concerned.</p>
<p><small>Image from <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirkhansen/1795764808/">SD Dirk on Flickr</a></small></p>
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		<title>More Granderson and Jackson rumors</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don’t know that we’ll cover every Tigers trade rumor here. It usually isn’t worth the effort, but there were some fairy significant reports regarding subjects of Edwin Jackson and Curtis Granderson.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><span class="drop_cap">I</span> don’t know that we’ll cover every Tigers trade rumor here. It usually isn’t worth the effort, but there were some fairy significant reports regarding subjects of Edwin Jackson and Curtis Granderson.</p>
<p> The New York and Chicago media have been beating the drum for Granderson to land in their respective cities. Now there are reports <a href="http://www.newsday.com//sports/yankees-could-try-to-make-deal-for-granderson-1.1585007">that Dave Dombrowski has had discussions with the Angels</a>. The Angels have 24 year old shortstop prospect Brandon Wood who the Tigers may find appealing. Granderson would presumably move to left field with Torii Hunter manning center.</p>
<p>If the thought of trading Granderson is upsetting to you (it is to me), you may take some comfort in that at least <a href="http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2009/11/will_the_tigers_trade_curtis_g.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+detroit-tigers+%28Detroit+Tigers+Impact+-+MLive.com%29">one AL executive doesn’t think it’s going to happen</a>.</p>
<p>On the Jackson front, the Tigers have talked with <a href="http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/69988612.html">Doug Melvin and the Milwaukee Brewers</a>. I’m sure they’ve talked with a number of clubs, but here’s the money quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&quot;Dave&#8217;s in charge of that one,&quot; said Melvin. &quot;They&#8217;ll identify which clubs are matches and they&#8217;ll call them. he&#8217;s looking for young players and young pitchers.&quot;</p>
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<p>I agree with Jason Beck in that it sounds like the team <a href="http://beck.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/11/telling_comment_on_jackson_fro.html">is doing a little more than just listening</a> to offers.</p>
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		<title>What the heck is going on (re: trade rumors)?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don’t remember the general manager meetings being this interesting in past years. Most of the action seems to usually take place at the winter meetings that take place in December. This year the GM meetings have served Tigers fans up with a disconcerting set of rumors with the Tigers making most of the team available for trade. But does this qualify as a fire sale?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><span class="drop_cap">I</span> don’t remember the general manager meetings being this interesting in past years. Most of the action seems to usually take place at the winter meetings that take place in December. This year the GM meetings have served Tigers fans up with a disconcerting set of rumors with the Tigers making most of the team available for trade. But does this qualify as a fire sale?</p>
<p>It all started Tuesday night when the news hit that Edwin Jackson could be available along with Gerald Laird. Things got more interesting Wednesday afternoon when a New York Post story cited a National League executive who said the Tigers were <a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/hardball/yankees_could_deal_for_tigers_granderson_ihbBrkhw4ntvdRpbuw2iJJ">listening to offers on Curtis Granderson</a>. Olney later <a href="http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/statuses/5627618227">tweeted</a> the same information. With two All Stars potentially on the block, a depressed economic region, and a payroll that leaves little flexibility the phrases “financial difficulty” and “fire sale” began working their way into columns. By evening <a href="http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/5634838816">Jon Heyman added Brandon Inge</a> (h/t <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/heymans-latest-lackey-tigers-reds.html">MLBTR</a>) to the list of those the Tigers could be looking to trade. Are the Tigers slashing payroll?</p>
<p>Dave Dombrowski <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091111&amp;content_id=7654948&amp;vkey=news_det&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=det&amp;partnerId=rss_det">denied that the Tigers were in fire sale mode</a>. He also iterated that the Tigers don’t have a set payroll yet from Mike Ilitch. So if the Tigers aren’t cutting and slashing the payroll, what is behind all the rumor and speculation?</p>
<p>When the Jackson rumor hit we went through <a href="http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/is-edwin-jackson-for-sale/">a number of factors and possible scenarios</a>. With Granderson and Inge added to the list it clears up a lot of the possibilities but I don’t think it points to payroll slashing. What I do think it confirms – and this isn’t a surprise – is that the team likely has limited flexibility with their payroll.</p>
<p>What we’re seeing now is every player on the roster with potential value being floated. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Miguel Cabrera’s name or Justin Verlander’s names pop up in the coming weeks. The Tigers have holes to fill and limited means to fill them. They also have a number of contracts coming off the books after 2010. If the Tigers trade a player or two to fill a couple holes and get younger or cheaper at the same time, it’s a win – especially going into a season where playoff aspirations are likely limited.</p>
<p>Granderson, Laird, Jackson, and Inge all make some money, but the 4 are a relatively small part of the overall payroll. Moving one or two of them isn’t going to have a significant financial impact. It’s more a matter of improving the team in the long run. </p>
<p>With Granderson and Jackson in particular the Tigers would be able to net a <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10353396/Wednesday%27s-buzz-from-the-G.M.-meetings">significant package</a>. These players aren’t going to be given away which means that it is unlikely they are going anywhere, and if they do the team stands to be better for it.*</p>
<p> <small><em>*The above paragraph is my best attempt at taking a cold and analytical look at the situation. The fan in me is sick about the thought of Curtis Granderson playing for another team. So maybe on second thought the paragraph is an attempt at rationalizing the minimal likelihood of a Granderson trade to make me feel better.</em></small></p>
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