Game 2016.83: Tigers at Indians

The Tigers swept Tampa Bay, pulled into 2nd place in the Central, and now get another crack at the division-leading Indians.

Here are the schedule times and starters:

  • Mon  7:10    Daniel Norris (1-0, 4.09) vs. Danny Salazar (10-3, 2.22)
  • Tue   7:10   Jordan Zimmermann (9-4, 3.95) vs. Carlos Carrasco (4-2, 2.56)
  • Wed 12:10  Michael Fulmer (8-2, 2.17) vs. Josh Tomlin (9-1, 3.21)

UPDATE: Zimmermanm to the DL with neck strain. Sanchez to start in his place. Molleken to be called up. The Cleveland Curse continues.

Why Cleveland will win this series:

Well, they are Cleveland. As in 9-0 vs. the Tigers Cleveland

They are IN Cleveland. They are 23-12 at home, where they hit especially well. Their batting average at home is a ridiculous .291 (.830 OPS), vs. .234 (.691 OPS) on the road.

Their starting pitching. Their worst pitcher this series is 9-1 with a .3.21 ERA, but that doesn’t take into account how they have owned Detroit so far this year. Their team ERA vs. Detroit is 2.00, with a 0.877 WHIP. It’s worth noting Salazar is the one guy they did hit this year, putting up 3 runs in 5 2/3.

Why Detroit will win this series:

The Tigers are coming off of a 4 game sweep where they won two games with late come backs, won one in a blowout, and generally pitched, hit and even ran the bases well. The Indians are coming in off of two games where they got completely buried following a 19-inning marathon victory. Still, momentum is only as good as the next day’s starter, as the saying goes.
Bullpens. The Tiger bullpen has been getting increasingly solid, and the Indians has been slammed and overworked. Check out these numbers:

81  60  175 Cleveland
35  18   31  Detroit

These are how many pitches each bullpen has thrown over the last 3 games, from this useful site (I don’t really like how they gave Bauer 83 pitches for Friday; McAllister is the bullpen guy who pitched 31 replacing Bauer as a starter. Still the difference is huge). The Tigers either have to jump on the starters early, or work up the pitch counts; either way, getting into the bullpen as early as possible will be key.

Key for the Series:

In addition to seeing as much bullpen as possible, Ian and Miggy need to show up this series. In the 9 games so far, Kinsler is hitting .162 (.427 OPS), and Miggy is hitting .172 (.437 OPS). Those are NL pitcher stat lines.

Today’s Stop That Damn Drumming Lineup:

  1. Kinsler, 2B
  2. Maybin, CF
  3. Cabrera, 1B
  4. V Martinez, DH
  5. Castellanos, 3B
  6. Upton, LF
  7. Moya, RF
  8. McCann, C
  9. Iglesias, SS


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  3. Tony de Florida

    July 4, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    If it weren’t for bad luck, the Tigers wouldn’t have any. Unbelievable, lose 2 pitchers in 2 days.

    • Coleman

      July 4, 2016 at 10:32 pm

      Mollusk time. Fasten your seatbelts.

  4. Tony de Florida

    July 4, 2016 at 11:47 pm

    How about this for a gutsy performance by the Tigers.

  5. Tony de Florida

    July 4, 2016 at 11:55 pm

    Is that what they call a shut down inning?

  6. jud

    July 5, 2016 at 12:38 am

    Sorry but this is like a bad joke..Kinsler..Cabrerra Martinez and Upton came in hitting .190 agsinst the Indians without anything else to show for the 9 games…today a whopping 3..for runs…this really stinks!..the way they play against Cleveland they easily can go 0/19…plus watch them bat they look like they could care less!!!!!!

  7. StorminNorman$

    July 5, 2016 at 8:26 am

    Carrasco (today’s CLE starter) pitched a 4 hit shutout against DET a little over a week ago, and he squares of against Sanchez… even the most optimistic DET fan would be reluctant to bet on DET with that pitching matchup.

  8. Tony de Florida

    July 5, 2016 at 11:03 am

    I watched the whole game last night (missed a great Perry Mason episode). What I got out of the game was that we are still swinging at too many marginal pitches. Of course good pitchers make that happen but I always hope for better discipline at the plate. The thing I found odd was bringing in Rondon. Having tied the game, I thought Brad would have used Greene and J. Wilson in the 7th and 8th. As soon as Rondon walked Lindor, I knew we were in trouble. The 2nd thing I found strange was bringing in Lowe to pitch the 8th. He did well, excellent in fact, but based on his recent efforts, he was really a bad choice. I wonder if the subliminal message to the team was: I think we have already lost this game so let’s give Lowe some work. Today we need a minor miracle from Sanchez to break the streak.

  9. Only Tiger Fan in Mississippi

    July 5, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    Greetings from Pateå, Sweden on the northern Baltic coast. I listened to the game whose delay meant a 3:00 local start. Dan’s comment about what where the Tigers and Indians would be if they split their last 10 games is revealing. We have a good 2016 team here except when the play the Indians.pitching, hitting, and even fielding is jinx’ed. Who and how can it be turned around?

    • Coleman

      July 5, 2016 at 4:39 pm

      More lutfisk?