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Game 2013.148: Royals at Tigers

85-62, Magic Number is 10.

Good win last night in a game where Justin Verlander had 0 walks. In fact, he didn’t get to a 3 ball count until the 4th, and had only 2 such counts all night. 9 Royals’ hits in 6 2/3 drove up the pitch count, but if JV issues his 2-3 walks along with those 9 hits, we’re talking about a different ball game. Interestingly, all 3 runs that the Royals scored last night came with 2 outs, and JV has allowed 42 runs with 2 outs this year. That’s nearly 1/2 of his runs allowed all year.

More two out JV fun – all stats are 0 outs/1 outs/2 outs.

How do you explain/fix that?

Fister gets the rock tonight. Despite a respectable 5-3 and 3.32 ERA over his last 10, he needs to get into post-season shape as well. His WHIP during that time is 1.38 and he’s been drilled in 2 out of his last 3 starts. Fister was lights out in the playoffs last year, let’s get back to that.

Since my post yesterday, Boston has won twice and Chris Davis hit #50. Home field advantage and the triple crown are going to be very difficult and nearly impossible to achieve, respectively.

So let’s focus on four issues which I’d like to see worked out over the remaining 14 games – 1) can Cabrera get healthy, 2) can the bullpen pitchers settle into defined roles, 3) who will play LF and 4) can JV be dominant in the postseason.

A few notes:

- Remember, Iglesias is only a rookie. AL ROY?

- A little run support in the Game Poster League would be nice.

- Peralta in LF is a real thing. I’m not against it.

- 2B prospect Devon Travis is the Tigers’ minor league player of the year.

Tonight’s Regulars Lineup:

1. Jackson, CF
2. Hunter, RF
3. Cabrera, 3B
4. Fielder, 1B
5. Martinez, DH
6. Dirks, LF
7. Infante, 2B
8. Avila, C
9. Iglesias, SS

Posted by on September 14, 2013.

Categories: 2013 Season, Game Post

73 Responses

  1. Good stuff on JV with 2 outs, Kevin. I’ve noticed, as many of us probably have, and there’s obviously something to it, more than a statistical quirk. Don’t know what it is, but I’ll take a guess: Two outs, he relaxes, starts working on things, complicating things, making pitch choices he wouldn’t have made to the same batter an out ago. He gets all “finesse” with 2 outs, getting away from “just pitching.” Just a guess.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 6:33 pm

  2. I don’t see Peralta *starting* in LF as a good or necessary thing, but being able to keep him in the game (in LF) after he pinch-hits is a great idea. Not that he couldn’t also stay/come into the game at SS (offensive) or 3B (defensive) as well.

    I can’t remember if Castellanos is eligible for the postseason roster, but he doesn’t really belong there, in my view.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 6:40 pm

  3. The Rangers have now lost 5 in a row–at home–and have to win tomorrow or be virtually eliminated from contention in the West. How quickly that changed!

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 6:51 pm

  4. Yan Gomes would get my vote as AL Rookie of the Year, if I had one. Iglesias and Archer would be close seconds.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 6:52 pm

  5. the other thing JV did well was limit the 2 strike foul balls. Seems like there have been 25-30 a game recently upping the pitch count and last night I thought it was more like the past couple years where he put batters away sooner.

    by judpma on Sep 14, 2013 at 6:52 pm

  6. Devon Travis (assuming the best) is probably two years away, eh? Interesting situation at 2B brewing, with Infante a free agent after this season.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 6:59 pm

  7. I’m not sure how to extrapolate number of out-of-play foul balls from the following:

    Pit Str StL StS GB FB LD PU

    Anyone? I don’t see any direct reference to fouled-off pitches at baseball-reference.com.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 7:11 pm

  8. At the game. Ball is jumping off Fister

    by mcb on Sep 14, 2013 at 7:25 pm

  9. Maybe the Tigers can use him as a bat.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 7:26 pm

  10. Jose Iglesias would get my vote as AL Rookie of the Year, if I had one. Gomes and Archer would be close seconds.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 7:31 pm

  11. What’s the mood at the ballpark? I think this one might be long and futile. Or it will be short and seem long. Santana is a beast against the Tigers.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 7:58 pm

  12. Its quiet

    by mcb on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:10 pm

  13. Sox rolling over for the Indians again tonight.

    by Vince in MN on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:15 pm

  14. Cy Santana at it as usual..funny that he isn’t 20-0..Tigers take pitch after pitch in the zone then fall over swinging at the two strike pitch in the dirt…cept Avila who just took 3 down the middle

    by judpma on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:29 pm

  15. Archer would get my vote as AL Rookie of the Year, if I had one. Gomes and Iglesias would be close seconds.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:33 pm

  16. Clever approach by Avila.

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:40 pm

  17. Fister is something to cheer about. Odd that the Tigers score the least runs for their two groundball pitchers.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:40 pm

  18. Cabrera has warning track power.

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:45 pm

  19. Oof. Warning track power, indeed. I think this one’s over.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:46 pm

  20. That guy really confuses me.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:47 pm

  21. And since they aren’t working the count, he is on his way to pitching an easy complete game – only 68 pitches through 6.

    by Vince in MN on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:48 pm

  22. Fister has been really good. Postseason form good. What a shame to waste pitching like this. With a lineup like this. The Tigers could be 40 over .500 and I’d still decry stuff like this.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:52 pm

  23. OK, now we are getting somewhere – two or three more hits and we can tie the core.

    by Vince in MN on Sep 14, 2013 at 8:59 pm

  24. Or the score, even. Tying the core would be good, though. You get a win for that, don’t you?

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:04 pm

  25. I know he is young and with few ABs, but so far this Castellanos kid has not impressed. Am I alone in that thought?

    by tbran on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:07 pm

  26. with an upper cut swing like that how in the world did you get this far. plus you stop your swing 3/4 of the way around….ah Tiger fundementals !!!

    by judpma on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:08 pm

  27. No, with the caveat that I didn’t expect him to impress. He’s been OK. Didn’t expect thunder and lightning. One season in AAA.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:09 pm

  28. Bad move bringing him in to pinch hit. When they brought in Will Smith Detroit should have countered with Tommy Lee Jones.

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:10 pm

  29. Torii still has an arm. Wow.

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:13 pm

  30. What if the Tigers could do what Hosmer just did. That would be nice.

    Torii – OMG.

    So Fister walks the next guy. Ugh.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:14 pm

  31. I think KC has figured out the “bunt on Cabrera” thing.

    by Vince in MN on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:14 pm

  32. I concur. Better actor.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:15 pm

  33. hey Fister, Great job…to bad the Pussycat offense was here agaig today for you….they should have let you hit in that Castellono spot, he has a Little League swing

    by judpma on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:16 pm

  34. Cool beans, Jose Alvarez. Still 0-1, so the Tigers only trail by 10 runs.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:17 pm

  35. The ” ” on my keyboard eems to be ticking for ome reaon.

    by Vince in MN on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:18 pm

  36. They just bunt well as a team. Fister and Avila are good on bunts, nothing has been particularly at Cabrera.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:18 pm

  37. the Sux are keeping it under two touchdowns while saving themselves for the Tigs!!

    by judpma on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:21 pm

  38. No joy in Mudville.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:24 pm

  39. Cabrerra is still at 50%..sure glad we thow him out there everyday…I mean Mumbles wouldn’t want to hurt his feelings !

    by judpma on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:26 pm

  40. No run support again…

    Rally time.

    by Kevin in Dallas on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:34 pm

  41. as much as I hate losing…the lack of effort by guys getting millions of dollars grinds me!!! Especially just going thru the motions batting……..

    by judpma on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:36 pm

  42. one good hit ball in the entire game!..

    by judpma on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:40 pm

  43. that was insane! why send fielder home against A. Gordon? The guy is known to have a cannon for an arm. There was just no reason for that.

    by tbran on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:40 pm

  44. Shouldn’t have sent Prince, no way. Wonder what Brookens and Leyland will have to say about this. Unbelievable. They never learn, apparently.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:41 pm

  45. No one gets thrown out at home like a Tiger!!

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:41 pm

  46. And why didn’t they pinch run for Fielder to begin with?

    by Vince in MN on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:43 pm

  47. I give them credit for making it interesting the whole way through. Too bad it ended the way it did. It shouldn’t overshadow one of the best defensive plays of the season, Hunter’s throw from RF to 3B. A career highlight play.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:44 pm

  48. I thought about that, and concluded that I wouldn’t want Prince out of the game at that point myself. But if you make that decision, you can’t then pretend that you *did* PR for Fielder, as the Tigers seem to have done.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:45 pm

  49. it’s nonsense/BS like this that makes you wonder if these guys can really contend. Fingers crossed that my current state of mind is wrong. Oh well, tomorrow is another game.

    by tbran on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:46 pm

  50. You wouldn’t be bullhitting me about thi, would you?

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:48 pm

  51. Leyland will say he agrees with the decision, it takes two perfect throws to get him (notice how many “perfect throws” Detroit seems to inspire?), gotta tip your cap, blah blah blah.

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:49 pm

  52. If you are losing by 1 run in the bottom of the ninth, you shouldn’t be thinking about later. Get a runner on who can take the extra base on a hit and then worry about later later. But maybe Fielder has a consecutive inning streak that is at stake as well?.

    by Vince in MN on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:49 pm

  53. Not to mention big clutch hit by Infante off of an incredibly tough closer.

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:50 pm

  54. Yeah, very exciting, good mention and reminder. I can’t complain that this one wasted my time, not at all.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:51 pm

  55. Leyland will mumble…”Best third base coach ever”…now that Lamont retired from third…what is this the 25 or 28th guy thrown out at home plate this year!!!!

    by judpma on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:51 pm

  56. Plus a perfect tag. In reality, they would have nailed Prince with a bit of imperfection thrown in there. Prince has enough steam in the locomotive for two bases, but not three.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:53 pm

  57. No, Fielder can’t have a consecutive inning streak going, I don’t think. Pretty sure Tuiasosopo has replaced him at 1B with several innings to play, to mention at least one instance.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:55 pm

  58. He wouldn’t have been due to bat again until, what, the 11th inning maybe? I agree.

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:55 pm

  59. Coleman has the stats, not sure where he gets them. coleman-reference.com, maybe. It’s a lot.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:56 pm

  60. Prince gave it his all though, that’s all you can ask for from him. I wonder how long before guys start “Lamonting” Brookens and ignoring his signs.

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:57 pm

  61. I see you guises (!) point, but the difference between being down by a run and being tied is the difference between yes/no on PR for Fielder here. Tie game, sure, get Perez out there.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 9:59 pm

  62. It’s 19 now, we’re 2nd to Boston (23). What I can’t find is any kind of indication how many attempts at home vs successful attempts at home.

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:00 pm

  63. http://www.baseball-reference......ting.shtml

    It’s the OOBHm column.

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:01 pm

  64. There’s a great quote from Prince lately that you may be paraphrasing. I liked it.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:01 pm

  65. There have been successful attempts at home!?

    by Vince in MN on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:05 pm

  66. I think there was that one time he accidentally sent one of the faster guys.

    by Coleman on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:07 pm

  67. Oh I see. Wait until the game is on the line.

    by Vince in MN on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:08 pm

  68. Brookens must have gotten sand in his eye and mistook him for Fielder.

    The XBT% column is interesting in that chart. That’s the percentage of times a runner successfully takes an extra base on a hit. Note that we are dead last in that category.

    by Vince in MN on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:16 pm

  69. And we weren’t good last year either, but are worse this season. Lamont only got 15 guys tossed out at home last year.

    by Vince in MN on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:20 pm

  70. Aha. Thanks.

    I can’t find any indication of attempts/success here, either. Memory tells me there have been very few close plays at the plate where the Tigers were successful offensively. (I remember one great slide by Hunter on a close scoring play.) A fair number where the throw home didn’t allow for any real play at the plate. Some of those were just good breaks for the Tigers who might have been thrown out otherwise.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:22 pm

  71. It’s some comfort to see the Red Sox ahead of the Tigers in OOBH.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:23 pm

  72. Behind: Tie now, win later = keep Fielder. Don’t sacrifice him just to tie.

    Tied: Win now or take your chances later = PR for Fielder. Sacrifice him to win now.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:28 pm

  73. At 5 games out with 14 left to play, the Indians are still very much alive, unfortunately. Harder news for KC, really. A win tomorrow would simplify things, at least, and allow the Tigers to claim an almost-draw for the season series with Royals. Aside from the Angels – and what’s up with that, if good pitching always beats good hitting? – KC has been the big pest.

    by Smoking Loon on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:56 pm

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