Cabrera Wins Silver Slugger Award, and Hot Stove Talk (really Victor Martinez talk)

Miguel Cabrera won his third Silver Slugger award today, and joined Albert Pujols in the distinction of winning it at three positions (remember he predominantly played OF for the Marlins when he first came up).

But on to the more pressing issues at hand:

The Tigers are being routinely mentioned as the team most who will make the strongest bid for Victor Martinez (for four years, surmises Peter Gammon), but does Manny Ramirez make sense in Detroit?  Apparently Battlestar has the inside scoop on Martinez, telling Morosi that the Tigers’ Venezuelan faction could help.

I agree that Carl Crawford is the crown jewel of the hitters, but the rumors put him at $100MM over 5 years, and I don’t think that we can do that, and fill our C need.

Note that Casey Fien signed with the Astros today.  He had a career 8.36 ERA and 1.643 WHIP with the Tigers.


  1. Patty

    November 12, 2010 at 5:27 am

    Ben Reiter is out of his mind. If Manny comes to Detroit, Mr Illich can kiss my CoPa dollars goodbye for as long as he’s here.

  2. Robert

    November 12, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Fien will make us proud like everyone else. Manny is cancer, cleanest term I could think of. Think Allen Iverson/Pistons.

    • Steve

      November 12, 2010 at 11:12 pm

      Mine too. He is a worthless human being. Me first, play when I want to. No thanks we need young guys who want to play every night and get better. Manny / Mike PLEASE anywhere but here.

      • Steve

        November 12, 2010 at 11:12 pm

        PS Congratulations Miggy

  3. Kevin in Dallas

    November 14, 2010 at 12:48 am

    Any interest in Uggla?

    I kind of like our kids at 2B…

    • TSE

      November 15, 2010 at 3:33 pm

      Whoever you like from our team that can play 2B should be part of the trade package to get him. We won’t need those guys as much if we get Uggla so might as well use them as currency. If we pickup Uggla in a trade like this, Martinez to upgrade our C spot, then if we land Crawford or Dunn we would finally have a qualified offense to scare other teams with and then we could make a run at the WS.

      On another note I clicked that link to see the article on the all time best Tiger’s First Basemen and was APPALLED to see they had Cecil Fielder, Rudy York and Norm Cash ahead of Cabrera, what a joke.

  4. Coach Jim

    November 14, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    As much as I like V. Martinez’s bat, I think we need to stay away from guys without a good position. Same goes for Dunn – because of our Silver Slugger 1B hombre.

    ManRam would be a good fit on paper, but I agree we should avoid the personal disruptions.

    Crawford is the best fit, and easiest. Barring him, I think a trade for Matt Holliday or Ryan Braun is the way to go. Then you just go for a backup catcher and ride Avila…Dave Ross is my choice.

    Then you re-sign Magglio and the lineup looks like this:
    1. Jackson
    2. Crawford
    3. Ordonez
    4. Cabrera
    5. Guillen (for 50 games?)
    6. Peralta
    7. Inge
    8. Avila
    9. Rymes

    • Coach Jim

      November 14, 2010 at 2:14 pm

      and yes, get Uggla if you can…great #5 hitter for us.

  5. Justin Wheeler

    November 14, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Victor Martinez would be a fantastic addition to the Tigers lineup. He is a switch hitter with a career average over .300 and he’ll give you 15-20 home runs and 80-100 RBIs. As much as I would LOVE to see the Tigers sign Carl Crawford I just don’t think it will happen. If the Angels and Red Sox go all out Detroit will have a very tough time earning his signature. Not to mention that signing Crawford would engulf about $60 million in payroll yearly during the next five years to just three players (Cabrera and Verlander being the other $20 million guys). I think they should sign Martinez and look for another big bat through the trade market. Dan Uggla has recently been mentioned as a possibility and would provide a huge upgrade at second assuming the Tigers would part with the valuable prospects Florida would surely demand.

    • Kevin in Dallas

      November 15, 2010 at 12:06 am

      I’m coming around on Martinez. I don’t think we have the money for Crawford (unless you are this guy, but I do think that we can get Martinez + 1 more bat, and still have some room left for the pen.

      • Justin Wheeler

        November 15, 2010 at 11:41 pm

        I definitely agree. If they sign Martinez you can probably count them out on Dunn, Werth, and Crawford but they may have a shot at just about anyone else. Not to mention that they could choose to go the trade route. I think one thing is certain and that is that Dave Dombrowski will definitely do SOMETHING.

  6. Kevin in Dallas

    November 15, 2010 at 12:16 am

    Also – thought it was worth pointing out that Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin are both gone from the Marlins organization. I think its safe to classify that one as a win for old DD, even with the Dontrelle Willis fiasco (click here for the DTW reactions from 2007).

    • TSE

      November 15, 2010 at 3:56 pm

      I’d like to see DD pull off an AJ trade. I bet some teams would overpay us for him. If he wants to win me over for next year, then a highly-skilled high-value AJ maneuver would be a good avenue to investigate.

  7. Kevin in Dallas

    November 15, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    • TSE

      November 15, 2010 at 3:49 pm

      Well that’s a just result. AJ was overrated this year and received a lot more praise than value he provided. Interesting to see Boesch was 5th when Casper Wells was better than him last year. I just wish we could have reversed their chances and let Wells come up first and have all those atbats and then bring Boesch in later and then see what the stats would have said. I’m going to pick Wells to outhit Boesch this year again. Boesch only hit .256 for average and .416 for slugging with a .736 OPS, how is that commendable? That’s weak.