Game 2010.120: Tigers at Yankees

by Kevin in Dallas on August 18, 2010 · 80 comments

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Tigers versus New York for the third game of a four game set.

 
 

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kathy August 18, 2010 at 5:56 pm

Carlos is on the DL. Rhymes called up.

Steve August 18, 2010 at 6:57 pm

Kathy any word on howl long ?

Bondo, you need, must have a good game

Boesch … Dude you need 3 hits tonight.

Oh and Lets GO Tigers

kathy August 18, 2010 at 7:16 pm

15 day DL retro to Tuesday night.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 7:19 pm

1. DL is minimum of 15 days of course, but with Carlos, who knows. Maybe Illitch gets lucky and it is permanent and he can collect some insurance for the rest of this year and next when his contract will (mercifully) be over. Guillen was wonderful for a while, and we should be thankful for that, but for the last 2+ years his fragility has been more of a liability than anyting else.
2. Good luck
3. In your dreams
4. OK.

And by the way, speaking of “Go Tigers”, where has Mr. Positive (Mr. X) disappeared too?

kathy August 18, 2010 at 7:23 pm

Probably angry.

kathy August 18, 2010 at 7:31 pm

Boesch is not in the lineup tonight…..mercifully.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 7:55 pm

Not yet. But I can hear the wheels in Leyland’s head grinding from here. What fate is in store for BB? Stay tuned. If you dare!

kathy August 18, 2010 at 7:16 pm

Payback to Gardner.

Steve August 18, 2010 at 7:35 pm

What was the whole Gardner thing about, I did not see anything

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 7:41 pm

Jeremy Bombedagain.

Cabrera took the rookie downtown anyway. Moseley too green to know he should have walked him.

Steve August 18, 2010 at 7:42 pm

Did Bondo hit him for reason like a game thing in the past?

kathy August 18, 2010 at 7:45 pm

Steve, are you really this naive. Come on, now.

Steve August 18, 2010 at 7:56 pm

Boy I hope not, I have been gone for a bit. Well anyway, Our line up is not scaring anyone tonight. If we did not have Miggy. We would be toast.

Going into next year.

Is Maggs still here
Is Bondo here (as a 4th or 5th?)
Is Inge here
I like Peralta at SS or 3rd
Catcher … Availa
2nd Carlos / Rhymes
OF: Boesch, A Jax

We need a serious upgrade and I dont see that many free agents available to fill the holes we have. I dont see the farm coming up with anyone. Pitching we have a couple of starters and a couple of bullpen guys.

Do we have a legit shot at Crawford outside of paying him wild cash?

Not cashing in this year yet but looking down the road as seeing where we will be next year at this time

Steve

kathy August 18, 2010 at 8:08 pm

The best advise I’ve got for you is to go to the Tigers website and read some of the news articles. It’s all on their website.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 8:39 pm

This team is a mess. They need to commit to major upgrades at several if not all of: 1 FT OF, a 3B/SS, a 2B. At a minimum. They can get by with a minor upgrade at C if they can get two above average bats from above list who will support Cabrera. Let Avila play more and pick up another vet C to backup – NO MORE LAIRD (sorry Kathy). They also need 2 SP. Our # 3, 4, 5 guys this year are performing at AA/AAA level, no more. Maybe Porcello comes back, but still… Personally, I don’t think they can bring in the talent needed to be bonafide contenders, despite all the money coming off the books – just too many holes to fill in one off-season. I’d like to see them go into re-build mode – forget about this contending-in-a-weak-divsion-and-then-cross-your-fingers bs and think about the future a bit. Actually I wish they had done it this year (but $$$$ contracts etc. probably made that a hard choice too). So I see them stuck in a don’t-do-today -what-you-can-put-off-until-tomorrow mode, with the expectant results. They need a “vision thing” change. But then, I am a glass is half empty sort of guy, so I may be overly pessimistic.

kathy August 18, 2010 at 8:49 pm

Another year, another letdown. 2008 deja vu. Get rid of Leland and start all over.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 9:00 pm

2012

kathy August 18, 2010 at 8:15 pm

Only in NY could Raburn not get an error on that play. Some scoring system.

stephen August 18, 2010 at 8:30 pm

The Jeremy Bonderman Retirement Tour continues! This is called a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Steve August 18, 2010 at 8:35 pm

Don Freakin Kelly

Stormin Norman $ August 18, 2010 at 8:38 pm

Contrast in management style (and results): Tiger’s 1st inning, first two guys get hits, no runs. Twins 1st inning tonight, leadoff hit, Orlando up 2nd (batting .287) sacrifices, Mauer up next, gets hit, Twins score a run in their first inning.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 8:50 pm

The Twins assemble their teams to be able to perform exactly in that kind of way, minor leagues included – call it small ball I guess.. The Tigers on the other hand assemble their teams to ……….. well, I’m not exactly sure what kind of play they assemble their teams to do.

Matt August 18, 2010 at 8:39 pm

Anybody know if this game is streaming anywhere online?

Steve August 18, 2010 at 8:47 pm

Right now its a steaming pile

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 8:57 pm

Johnny, Jhonny.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 9:04 pm

Otherwise known s Doink and Dionk.

kathy August 18, 2010 at 9:05 pm

Johnny doesn’t seem to do as well when he’s DHing.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 9:10 pm

If you look at his splits… oh don’t get me started.

kathy August 18, 2010 at 9:06 pm

Can’t help but wonder where we’d be if Magglio was still with the team.

Steve August 18, 2010 at 9:08 pm

Kathy to me it would be Maggs, a catcher and a healthy Carlos

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 9:13 pm

I’m sure we could be at least 1 or 2 games better in the standings.If they let him pitch every 5th game, maybe even more.

Coleman August 18, 2010 at 9:12 pm

Longball or small ball, Donny K is your man

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 9:16 pm

Or no ball for those times in between.

kathy August 18, 2010 at 9:14 pm

OK, when Alex went up to bat, I thought he’d try to bunt. Didn’t do it. Took a few swings and gets called out. Why is it that guys show bunt and if they don’t succeed they swing away. Has anyone ever took a few swings and then tried to bunt.

kathy August 18, 2010 at 9:23 pm

Why not try and bunt when the other team has their infield playing out?

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 9:26 pm

This is a rhetorical question, yes?

kathy August 18, 2010 at 9:33 pm

No, is there a rule that says a guy can’t swing away for a hit, maybe have 1 or 2 strikes on him and then bunt? Wouldn’t that be something akin to a bat trick. I’m serious.

kathy August 18, 2010 at 9:37 pm

Or would that be considered too small ball.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 9:48 pm

Well, perhaps Avila is not be a very good bunter – he does seem to swing through a lot of pitches after all. Secondarily, it probably isn’t on Leyland’s playbook to even consider such a thing. Incidentally, I don’t think Leyland is particualrly adept at small-ball strategies.

kathy August 18, 2010 at 9:58 pm

I wasn’t speaking about Avila specifically, but I’m not sure myself if I’ve ever seen anyone do that. Take a couple swings, the infield is out, and then you go for a bunt. I’ve never seen a player do that and am wondering why. That’s all.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 10:20 pm

It happens very rarely. Theoretically (in modern ball at least) bunting with two strikes is frowned upon and is therefore discouraged. A good bat handler who is speedy could get away with it, but in an age where the emphasis is more on power (station to station) ball, bunting may be a lost art.

kathy August 18, 2010 at 10:23 pm

With this team you throw in everything but the kitchen sink to get on base, move a runner…..anything. It’s probably why I like NL style better than AL.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 10:54 pm

Well, the Tigers really fall between two stools: they are not a good small ball team (slow, poor baserunning, weak on moving runners over, taking an extra base on a hit, K too much, RISP fail, etc) while at the same time they aren’t a power team either, so the station-to-staion strategy waiting for the big hit doesn’t work either. They are like the person with two left feet trying to learn how to ballroom dance – they can fake it for a while, but inevitably they fail as the demands get stiffer. I guess my point is that throwing in everything doesn’t work when “everything” is a mis-match to begin with.

kathy August 18, 2010 at 10:56 pm

true.

kathy August 18, 2010 at 9:16 pm

Razor needs to make up for that awful error he had.

Coleman August 18, 2010 at 9:19 pm

Ah yes, our old friend, the R3L2O-Fail

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 9:20 pm

Bases loaded and one out had me going there for a moment – silly me.

Coleman August 18, 2010 at 9:47 pm

Now we have a rare opportunity for the R3L20-Fail-x2

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 9:49 pm

To score or not to score, that is the question.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 9:58 pm

Success!

Coleman August 18, 2010 at 9:21 pm

Rugburned

kathy August 18, 2010 at 9:27 pm

Oh, no, they’re walking this guy to pitch to Grandy.

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 9:32 pm

Good old Curtis – Yankees haven’t figured that one out yet.

Coleman August 18, 2010 at 9:42 pm

Go Smokey!

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 10:28 pm

The good news tonight is that Leyland forgot about putting Boesch in impossible to succeed situations and actually gave him the night off. Cabrera hit two SOLO homeruns. After that, uh, well, uh….

Oh yeah, the Twins are beating the WS (I hate the WS).

Vince in MN August 18, 2010 at 11:44 pm

So where is Kevin? Outside of the obligatory blurb at the beginning of each game thread (which are suspiciously getting shorter and shorter), he has mysteriously disappeared. I surmise that he is entranced by “meaningful games” down there in Texas and is now (when we need him most!) just going through the motions re: Tigers live games.

kathy August 19, 2010 at 12:13 am

Where will we all go when the blog gets torn down? BYB is not my style and the message board on the Tiger website is insane most of the time. There is Motownsports.com which has a pretty good group. It’s like knowing it’s the end just like we know the Tigers are finished. Jim Leland told the whole world we weren’t going anywhere.

Vince in MN August 19, 2010 at 1:49 am

Comment on Bonderman retaliating against Gardner.

Bonderman is a moron. No mediocre (or less) pitcher with an ERA of 5.20 has any business putting a batter on for free, since there is probably about a 65% chance that it is going to come back to haunt you (DumBo has done ths before) – duh! Worse yet, the leadoff hitter. If you are going to retaliate, it is better to wait until you are ahead, oh say by 9-4. Get it?

Mark in Chicago August 19, 2010 at 9:05 am

Bonderman is smart enough to know he wasn’t going to be up 9-4 and probably knew he wouldn’t last long against the Yankees lineup anyway. Since there’s no guarantee he would face Gardner again, he got him when he knew he could.

kathy August 19, 2010 at 9:59 am

Yup.

Vince in MN August 19, 2010 at 2:53 pm

Mark, if Bonderman was smart enough to know before the game started that he wasn’t going to last long (i.e. lose), he should have let Leyland know so he could have been replaced with somebody that had a better chance. The guy’s job is to try to win, not make it easier for the other team to do so. And who made Bonderman responsible for retaliation anyway? Anything intentionally done to make it harder for the team to win is just assinine.

Mark in Chicago August 19, 2010 at 4:14 pm

it was a just a joke, Vince. I didn’t mean to imply that Bondo literally knew he was going to pitch like crap.

Vince in MN August 19, 2010 at 9:00 pm

Well, that’s different then! :-)

I hope you don’t think I was trying to start an argument. On principle I think it is generally a bad idea. I have nothing against kicking the opponent when they are down (which is what NY did with Cabrera), but you need to pick your spots.

kathy August 19, 2010 at 12:58 pm

1:00 pm but no game thread.

Coleman August 19, 2010 at 1:22 pm

The Big Mig!!

Also I have to say I enjoy watching Wee Willie Rhymes.

kathy August 19, 2010 at 2:47 pm

Oh, it’s depressing.

kathy August 19, 2010 at 3:13 pm

Turn off the lights, light a candle….

Kevin headed to Vegas August 19, 2010 at 3:51 pm

Hey friends – my apologies for not posting a thread this morning, you know how it goes. I’ll get a couple of basic ones up tonight to cover this weekends games. To say billfer was devoted to this site would be an egregious understatement.

Props to the bats for having a little fight in them…

Kevin

Jud August 19, 2010 at 10:57 pm

wasn’t worth a game thread…not to worry~!

brendan August 20, 2010 at 3:20 pm

I forgot who threw that pitch to Miguel Cabrera but everybody out there knows that no umpire is going to toss a Yankee.

brendan August 20, 2010 at 3:26 pm

One of the tigers pitchers tried to hit Jeter but they missed him.

brendan333 August 20, 2010 at 3:28 pm

WHAT PLACE DO YOU THINK THE TIGERS WILL BE IN AT THE END OF THE SEASON?

kathy August 20, 2010 at 5:57 pm

LAST

brendan333 August 21, 2010 at 1:54 pm

WHY LAST PLACE?

brendan333 August 20, 2010 at 3:29 pm

HOW DID THAT FIGHT IN THE DUGOUT START A FEW GAMES AGO?

kathy August 20, 2010 at 5:57 pm

GALARRAGA WANTS TO BE IN THE SPOTLIGHT.

brendan333 August 21, 2010 at 1:55 pm

HOW DID LAIRD GET IN THE FIGHT?

brendan333 August 20, 2010 at 3:38 pm

JIM LELAND SHOULD SEND BOESCH DOWN TO AAA (TRIPLE A). EVERYBODY LOVES BRENNAN BOECH BUT HE NEED TO STEP UP HIS GAME A LITTLE BIT. I NOTICED THAT HE HAS NOT BEEN PLAYING LATLEY. IF HE WANTS TO PLAY HE HAS TO DTART GETTING SOME HITS. AND WHEN ONE OF LELAND’S BOTTOM OF THE LINE UP HITTERS GET ON FIRST BASE HOW COME HE WON’T BUNT. THE ONLY PLAYER I SEE DOING GOOD IS WILL RHYMES. I AM GETTING SICK OF LELAND. IITICH SHOULD FIND A NEW GM AND MANAGER. THEY SHOULD MADE MORE TRADES AT THE DEAD LINE.

Andre in Chi August 20, 2010 at 5:48 pm

post of the year?

Andre in Chi August 20, 2010 at 5:48 pm

oh, whoops, i meant:

POST OF THE YEAR?

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