Game 2010.015: Tigers at Angels

Head over and read the post game analysis: That’s using all your outs

Were we not just in this same situation on Sunday? Tigers open up a series against a team that just ran off 3 wins by dropping the first two games. Fortunately Max Scherzer stepped up and the offense plated enough runs for a win that time. Can Jeremy Bonderman right the ship after his last rocky appearance?

Jered Weaver goes for the Angels. The Tigers fanned 13 times last night. Weaver has 21 K’s in 19 innings this season and only 3 walks. His only (and very minor) weakness so far is the 4 homers allowed. But with the Tigers only knocking out 8 homers this year it doesn’t really play into their strengths.

It’s a very lefty lineup:

  1. Jackson, CF
  2. Damon, LF
  3. Ordonez, RF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Guillen, DH
  6. Kelly, 3B
  7. Avila, C
  8. Santiago, SS
  9. Sizemore, 2B

Detroit Tigers at Los Angeles Angels – April 21, 2010 – MLB.com Gameday
Jeremy Bonderman photo courtesy of April A Taylor

85 Comments

  1. Packey

    April 21, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    5/9 lefties. And who ever said the Tigers needed a lefty bat? Ha

  2. Tigers Fan in Toronto

    April 21, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Migs has 17 RBI after the first 14 games…..could he get 150 or even break the Tigers record of 183?

    • Chris

      April 21, 2010 at 10:32 pm

      No because as the season gets later and teams are in pennant races..they will not pitch to him.

  3. Tigers Fan in Toronto

    April 21, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    Could the Tigers convert Zoom Zoom and/or Perry to staters this year?

  4. Tigers Fan in Toronto

    April 21, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Hopefully the Tigers can get and play with a lead tonight……instead of trying for a comeback……exciting or not!

    • Tigers Fan in Toronto

      April 21, 2010 at 10:08 pm

      It would be nice to light up an opposition starter early for a change.

      • Mark in Chicago

        April 21, 2010 at 11:16 pm

        It would be nice to light up an opposition pitcher, period.

  5. Tigers Fan in Toronto

    April 21, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    It’s nice to see Damon coming around and earning his keep.

    • Mike in CT

      April 21, 2010 at 10:43 pm

      Haha…is it too soon to start thinking what kind of package they’d get back for trading Johnny to a contender in July? … Not that I’m giving up on the season, just being realistic at this point. Can’t win in the AL with only one real power threat in your 1 through 9.

      • Chris

        April 21, 2010 at 11:12 pm

        Well you could win in the AL..w/out power if you had speed, great defense, excellent pitching, hit well w/ RISP, or did a good job making productive outs and wasted few scoring opportunities. Uh Oh! The Tigers appear to be bad at all of the things mentioned above…Realistically its hard to see how the Tigers will compete.

        Luckily, its early and things can turn around..I wouldn’t bet on it..but we can still ahve hope. great play by Kelly..if that were Inge we would have to hear how great of a fielder he was..except if it were Inge than Miggy would have to dig his bad throw out of the dirt

  6. Tigers Fan in Toronto

    April 21, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Here we go again!!!!!

  7. Rand

    April 21, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Stick a fork in ‘em.

  8. David G

    April 21, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    It’s gonna be a long year.

    • Keith (Mr. X)

      April 21, 2010 at 10:31 pm

      I hope so. I love October baseball.

  9. Keith (Mr. X)

    April 21, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    We need some Mr. Snappy. Got to hold them to 3 runs.

  10. Chris

    April 21, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    The funny thing about the Bonderman reclamation project is…the guy had electric stuff..but had no mental toughness and was the opposite of a greg maddux when it came to “pitching”…Now, he has no “stuff” anymore..He has to “pitch” as opposed to just throw and rely on his arm…He has no chance of being successful..IMO..I sure, hope I am wrong..but, the reality is, that the guy had a great postseason and about a 1/2 a season of really good pitching….the rest of the time..all we heard was “he has a great arm” he just needs a changeup..or get through that 1st inning…in other words he wasn’t consistent or very good..when he had much better stuff…normally, guys who reinvent themselves were good before..he was all potential..He is a bullpen killer..all season he is going to struggle to get through 4-5 and he can not get LH out..he struggled when he threw 95-96 at getting LH out. What wishful thinking by the Tiger front office. i have more faith in Willis, than Bondo..

  11. ouchudied

    April 21, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    We whine about Laird not hitting yet we have Avila who is batting .105. I’m not saying that we should whine about Avila, but the dude isn’t separating himself at all from Gerald.

    • Chris

      April 21, 2010 at 10:57 pm

      Laird hits a popup every time and we have to hear the name “G-Money” Yet, your point is quite accurate… We are lucky to be 7-8..if not for our 3-4 hitters and some suspect bullpens..we could be 4-11 or worse. At some point, you have to wonder..How bad of an offense are we? It is getting scary…our inability to hit starting pitching. You’d like to think its an anomaly..but we are getting to the 20 game mark…you would think we would have knocked around one starter by now..Has the opposition been 100% in quality starts against us?

      • ouchudied

        April 22, 2010 at 1:10 am

        Are you sure you don’t mean 8-7?

  12. JCM

    April 21, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    Damon has a no trade clause.
    Robetson nwas a bad choice for cut
    and Avila would be in AA in another team

  13. ryan

    April 21, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Hello, is this Mike Rizzo? Yes, what is your asking price for Ivan Rodriguez..?

  14. stephen

    April 21, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    I swear I came to the site tonight to make Bilfer happy and not be a Nancy Negativity. But my goodness, a 6-9 of Kelly, Avila, Santiago, Sizemore is the 6 thru 9 of an expansion team not a Top Ten payroll team. I like Sizemore, I think he’s going to be good, but you lose the first two and then you start this as your bottom half of the order? This is baseball, so they could still win, but geez this is a ‘give-up’ bottom half. And we already lost the first two! How this team could spend this much money and end up starting this is beyond me.

    • Mark in Chicago

      April 21, 2010 at 11:19 pm

      and as I read your comment, Don Kelly of the 6-9 “quadfecta” goes deep for our only run so far. Bizarre game, baseball

  15. ouchudied

    April 21, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    That pitch was inside to Damon, just like the one last night was outside. But, those pitches are just too close to take with two strikes…

    • kathy

      April 21, 2010 at 11:35 pm

      Damon had every right to be angry. That pitch was so inside, it was pathetic the umpire called it a strike.

  16. Keith (Mr. X)

    April 21, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    Attaboy Kelly. Got our ice breaker. Bondo lookin good now too.

  17. ouchudied

    April 21, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    What did Damon do? Beat the hell out of the ump with his bat?

  18. Mike in CT

    April 21, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    How bad was that called third strike?

    Gameday on my phone made it look REALLY inside.

    Glad Damon was ticked enough to get ejected.

    Maybe it rallies the troops, who knows….?

    • ouchudied

      April 21, 2010 at 11:59 pm

      It wasn’t as far inside as the one last night was outside, at least according to gameday.

  19. stephen

    April 21, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    That was a comically bad call on that last pitch. Angels announcer talking about what a great pitch it was then graph shows it was six inches inside.

    • Shane Trapped in Toledo

      April 21, 2010 at 11:35 pm

      Damon had a legitimate argument. The strike zone has been fleeting all series.

  20. Keith (Mr. X)

    April 21, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    Bonderman is cruising now.

    • Keith (Mr. X)

      April 21, 2010 at 11:41 pm

      Now it’s time to knock Weaver out of the game.

  21. Tigers Fan in Toronto

    April 21, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    Jackson strikes out too much to bat leadoff….leads the team with 20 before tonight.
    He should be dropped down in the order until he learns how to bat in the majors.

    • Keith (Mr. X)

      April 21, 2010 at 11:48 pm

      His last AB was impressive. He has a few good AB’s every game. Besides the K’s, he’s doing everything great. He’s on pace to get 219 hits and 115 runs scored.

    • Shane Trapped in Toledo

      April 21, 2010 at 11:56 pm

      I do not even know why you bother watching the Tigers play sometimes. Do you hate the sun because it is too hot?

      • Tigers Fan in Toronto

        April 22, 2010 at 12:02 am

        In some places it is!

        • Shane Trapped in Toledo

          April 22, 2010 at 12:12 am

          Well then back it up with data. Even though Jackson has struck out 20 times he has a batting average of .317 and an OBP of .380. Therefore your statement that he strikes out too much to be a lead off hitter is not right because his OBP says he can be. And as a rookie that is pretty good.
          Just like 120 degrees is hotter than 70 degrees (Fahrenheit, of course, my Canadian friend). Too often on this site people make statements than cannot be quantified, backed up, or proven. It kills the fun.

          • Tigers Fan in Toronto

            April 22, 2010 at 12:20 am

            I don’t dispute any of the other facts that you have stated!
            I just think that for his and the teams future going forward it would be better that he hit in the bottom third of the order until he could learn to cut his strikeouts down.

            • Tigers Fan in Toronto

              April 22, 2010 at 10:57 am

              Jackson is 7th on the team in OBP as of right now…..and that would be a good spot for him in the batting order.

              • andre

                April 22, 2010 at 11:16 am

                “Jackson is 7th on the team in OBP as of right now…..and that would be a good spot for him in the batting order.”

                Not to split hairs, but he’s actually sixth among “regulars”; Santiago is 2nd, but with only 24 ABs and a career OBP that’s .120 lower than what he’s rocking right now. Inge is also ahead of him with an OBP that’s .80 above his norm. With Miggs, Maggs, Guillen and Damon being the others ahead of him (at the moment), you’re other lead-off options are probably just Damon – unless you don’t consider Guillen an injury risk.

                But let’s stick with your logic for a second: Cabrera is 1st in OBP…should he be leading off?

                Jackson is 3rd on the team in total bases behind Miggs & Maggs (great potential law firm name). Would cutting down on Ks be nice to see, absolutely. However, lets not drop the only guy with decent OBP + wheels (and SBs) so low that you’re counting on the Honorable Gerald Laird to drive him in. Mmmmk?

  22. Shane Trapped in Toledo

    April 21, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    Good for Miguel. He wanted nothing more than to crush Weaver and he almost knocked it out.

  23. billfer

    April 21, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    Coincidentally enough I was just munching on my first piece of rally celery this season.

    • Coleman

      April 22, 2010 at 12:08 am

      The rally celery! Of course! THAT’S why so many LOB so far, lack of rally celery.

  24. Keith (Mr. X)

    April 21, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    Weaver escapes doom again. Man, we’re getting soo unlucky with these line-drive DP’s.

  25. stephen

    April 22, 2010 at 12:04 am

    That was a baffling play by Sizemore. Spinning completely around without making tag. looked like he was avoiding contact at all costs.

  26. Coleman

    April 22, 2010 at 12:20 am

    You know I’m getting to where I feel quite comfortable seeing EddieBo come in the game.

  27. ouchudied

    April 22, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Get out your rally monkey.

    • ouchudied

      April 22, 2010 at 12:41 am

      Thats one feisty monkey

  28. Keith (Mr. X)

    April 22, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Whooo! MIGGY!!!

  29. stephen

    April 22, 2010 at 12:40 am

    wowie, that ball was scalded.

  30. JOE Z

    April 22, 2010 at 12:40 am

    MOONSHOT

    what a boss

  31. Tigers Fan in Toronto

    April 22, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Has it come down yet??????

  32. stephen

    April 22, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Ah Inge, go back to the hotel.

  33. ouchudied

    April 22, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Laird to pinch hit for Avila… HA.

  34. Kris in SJC

    April 22, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Laird – really?

    I dare him to prove me wrong

  35. Cameron in Singapore

    April 22, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Is Leyland having Liard PINCH-HIT???

  36. Kevin in Dallas

    April 22, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Is Jimmy wearing batting gloves?

  37. Kevin in Dallas

    April 22, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Guillen gets thrown out there.

  38. Coleman

    April 22, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Seriously?

  39. ian (seattle)

    April 22, 2010 at 12:49 am

    YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!!!

    • Coleman

      April 22, 2010 at 12:50 am

      That’s one way to reduce to number of LOB

  40. Keith (Mr. X)

    April 22, 2010 at 12:49 am

    He could go all the way! LAIRD!!! HE SCORES!!

  41. ouchudied

    April 22, 2010 at 12:50 am

    Wow… on gameday that pitch is practically in the dirt.

    • JOE Z

      April 22, 2010 at 12:53 am

      santiago was reaching far, no more than a foot off the ground. great batting

  42. Kris in SJC

    April 22, 2010 at 12:50 am

    WOO-HOO! A bit of good fortune after a bonehead play…finally have a lead after what seems weeks.

  43. Keith (Mr. X)

    April 22, 2010 at 12:51 am

    Ramon baby Ramon!

  44. Joey in Portland OR

    April 22, 2010 at 12:51 am

    G-MONEY!!! Wow I thought he was gonna be toast! Great hustle, great slide!

  45. Mike in CT

    April 22, 2010 at 12:55 am

    Ok Papa G, remember what Rodney did the last two nights…

  46. Brian

    April 22, 2010 at 12:57 am

    Morning from Italy! how nice to wake up to a rally…

  47. Kevin in Dallas

    April 22, 2010 at 12:58 am

    BTW, if you have MLB.tv, they’ve done a great job of syncing the video & audio…so you can hear Jim & Dan while muting the TV feed.

    • Mike in CT

      April 22, 2010 at 1:05 am

      Funny you say that, I have the MLB app on my iPhone and the radio is always about one out, or so, behind the gameday itself, which tends to be annoying.

    • Coleman

      April 22, 2010 at 6:36 am

      But then you have to hear the phrase “art of pitching” 170 times.

  48. Cameron in Singapore

    April 22, 2010 at 1:00 am

    Wow…Laird could end up scoring the winning run…

  49. Tigers Fan in Toronto

    April 22, 2010 at 1:03 am

    This was a feelgood win!!!!

  50. Keith (Mr. X)

    April 22, 2010 at 1:03 am

    YES! Papa Grande with the save! I love games like this. That’s why they say it ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings. I

  51. kathy

    April 22, 2010 at 1:03 am

    Victory! How sweet it is.

  52. jud

    April 22, 2010 at 1:05 am

    it was so cold and the Tigers were so cold we left the stadium in the 8th went to the ESPN Zone in Disneyland….I must be in Disneyland because we walk in and the Ball Cabrerra hit just landed on the roof,,,,,then I knew we were in Disneyland cause Laird got on and scored the winning run…….hooray for Mickey Mouse right next door!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  53. Mike in CT

    April 22, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Big win. Great job by Bonderman to settle down and the rest of the arms in the pen locking it down.

    Suffice to say, they were due a blooper find grass instead of glove.

  54. jud

    April 22, 2010 at 1:10 am

    how about Bondo?? can he keep that up..his speed was down but I’m telling you sitting right there on a very cold California night (bout 46 ) he located for the most part and changed some speeds….he looked good!

  55. Joey in Portland OR

    April 22, 2010 at 1:12 am

    Great win, way to keep plugging away. Feels like we could have won each game in this series, so great to actually get the W tonight. Lets go out and get the split tomorrow with JV on the hill.

    And too bad Fuentes wasn’t back 2 nights ago!

    • jud

      April 22, 2010 at 1:18 am

      I live out here in LA and you think the Tiger fans hated Jones and Rodney Well Angels fans and Press loathe Fuentes…..and I never written the word loathe in my life

  56. jud

    April 22, 2010 at 1:27 am

    I’m on Laird as much as anybody, ok maybe more ,but that break off second and that slide to get in was BIG TIME Baseball!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Packey

      April 22, 2010 at 1:52 am

      Yeah, I’ve been pretty hard on him, as well, and there’s no denying the beauty in that. Props to Laird for that.

    • Coleman

      April 22, 2010 at 6:38 am

      Laird is one of the best baserunners on the team, strangely enough.

      And one of the best bunters.