Comments on: More Granderson and Jackson rumors http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: TSE http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135424 TSE Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:52:30 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135424 Yeah, this talk now and then dismissal of the reports is a warm up and precursor to a future move as Grandy goes deeper into his current contract. Yeah, this talk now and then dismissal of the reports is a warm up and precursor to a future move as Grandy goes deeper into his current contract.

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135423 Mark in Chicago Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:59:38 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135423 pretty slim given that Harper won't get drafted until next June and can't be traded for one year after that. pretty slim given that Harper won’t get drafted until next June and can’t be traded for one year after that.

]]> By: TSE http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135422 TSE Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:26:24 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135422 What are the odds that Grandy gets traded for the rights to Bryce Harper, "the Lebron James of baseball"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryce_Harper What are the odds that Grandy gets traded for the rights to Bryce Harper, “the Lebron James of baseball”?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryce_Harper

]]> By: West Coast Tiger http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135418 West Coast Tiger Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:06:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135418 My initial reaction to a potential Granderson Trade was negative to say the least. When you think about it what would be missing. Lead off power, but think of all the strikeouts and his speed has not been a huge factor. Curtis should have 35-40 stolen bases/ year. A trade with the Cubs would be interesting. Their #1 draft pick last year, Brett Jackson is someone I am familiar with. He played high school ball for our local HS, and went on to play for Cal. He hits for power, has speed and is a Center Fielder. In addition he comes from a good family and has a good head for baseball. Obviously the Tigers would need to get alot more than a prospect. My initial reaction to a potential Granderson Trade was negative to say the least. When you think about it what would be missing. Lead off power, but think of all the strikeouts and his speed has not been a huge factor. Curtis should have 35-40 stolen bases/ year.

A trade with the Cubs would be interesting. Their #1 draft pick last year, Brett Jackson is someone I am familiar with. He played high school ball for our local HS, and went on to play for Cal. He hits for power, has speed and is a Center Fielder. In addition he comes from a good family and has a good head for baseball.

Obviously the Tigers would need to get alot more than a prospect.

]]> By: dwinning http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135417 dwinning Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:17:56 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135417 Here's a question to the must-keep-granderson folks: are you saying that there's no package of players/prospects that we should trade him for - that you would be upset no matter what we get back for him? Bear in mind that I'm a guy who will certainly well up if I have to tell my 4 year old boy that granderson doesn't play for the tigers anymore, but at the end of the day, the goal is to win championships, right? there are packages of players out there that help us do that more than CG might. Here’s a question to the must-keep-granderson folks: are you saying that there’s no package of players/prospects that we should trade him for – that you would be upset no matter what we get back for him?

Bear in mind that I’m a guy who will certainly well up if I have to tell my 4 year old boy that granderson doesn’t play for the tigers anymore, but at the end of the day, the goal is to win championships, right? there are packages of players out there that help us do that more than CG might.

]]> By: Lee Panas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135413 Lee Panas Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:46:25 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135413 <> You have no idea how funny this is. ;-) I'm probably the biggest stat geek here but I also have a sentimental side. <>

You have no idea how funny this is. ;-) I’m probably the biggest stat geek here but I also have a sentimental side.

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135410 Vince in MN Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:54:09 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135410 Jeez, I go away from my computer for 36 hours and when I come back Granderson and Jackson are STILL with the team. What is with Dombrowski? Doesn't he understand that the pressure is on to "do something" now? Jeez, I go away from my computer for 36 hours and when I come back Granderson and Jackson are STILL with the team. What is with Dombrowski? Doesn’t he understand that the pressure is on to “do something” now?

]]> By: Chris Y. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135409 Chris Y. Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:39:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135409 Ugh, apparently if you've seen one WS highlight.... Ugh, apparently if you’ve seen one WS highlight….

]]> By: amason http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135408 amason Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:48:20 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135408 Wood is fairly interesting if he can stay a shortstop ... I bet he could put up JJ Hardy numbers ala '07, '08 on offense. Grandy is worth more than that but maybe E-Jax for Wood? Wood is fairly interesting if he can stay a shortstop … I bet he could put up JJ Hardy numbers ala ’07, ’08 on offense. Grandy is worth more than that but maybe E-Jax for Wood?

]]> By: Steve in LP http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135407 Steve in LP Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:58:25 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135407 My heart says don't trade him. My brain says trade him. My heart says don’t trade him. My brain says trade him.

]]> By: Coach Jim http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135404 Coach Jim Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:33:41 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135404 Actually, this bodes quite well for the Tigers. In the mid-90s the Red Wings almost traded the face of the franchise, Steve Yzerman. They ultimately didn't and they were regulars deep into the playoffs after that. Maybe NOT trading Curtis is the harbinger of good things to come. ...and if they do trade him, it will be more like letting go of Gibby in '88...a generation of misery ahead... Actually, this bodes quite well for the Tigers. In the mid-90s the Red Wings almost traded the face of the franchise, Steve Yzerman. They ultimately didn’t and they were regulars deep into the playoffs after that. Maybe NOT trading Curtis is the harbinger of good things to come.

…and if they do trade him, it will be more like letting go of Gibby in ’88…a generation of misery ahead…

]]> By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135402 Kathy Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:14:24 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135402 Ah, there you go! Someone who finally agrees with me that stats don't tell the whole story. That's the same way I feel about Magglio. I don't believe any franchise can have blind faith in their general manager. All of them make mistakes and with economy the way it is, the mistakes are made more glaring. Ah, there you go! Someone who finally agrees with me that stats don’t tell the whole story. That’s the same way I feel about Magglio.

I don’t believe any franchise can have blind faith in their general manager. All of them make mistakes and with economy the way it is, the mistakes are made more glaring.

]]> By: Lee Panas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135400 Lee Panas Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:15:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135400 Kevin, I'll always root for the Tigers but some players are more fun to root for than others. Granderson is one of those players for me. I've followed him closely since he played for Oneonta in 2002 and he's my favorite player since Whitaker and Trammell. I'm one of the biggest stat and analysis guys here but occasionally there is a player that transcends all that. Plus, he has had good stats over the last three years! So, they better get a huge return if he goes (which I don't think he will). And I don't have blind faith in Dombrowski to do the right thing either. He's a good GM but occasionally he moves too fast and does something foolish like trading too much for Renteria and extending Willis. Lee Kevin, I’ll always root for the Tigers but some players are more fun to root for than others. Granderson is one of those players for me. I’ve followed him closely since he played for Oneonta in 2002 and he’s my favorite player since Whitaker and Trammell. I’m one of the biggest stat and analysis guys here but occasionally there is a player that transcends all that. Plus, he has had good stats over the last three years! So, they better get a huge return if he goes (which I don’t think he will).

And I don’t have blind faith in Dombrowski to do the right thing either. He’s a good GM but occasionally he moves too fast and does something foolish like trading too much for Renteria and extending Willis.

Lee

]]> By: Kevin http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135396 Kevin Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:38:15 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135396 I've resigned myself to the thought of Curtis being traded. My only hope is that they don't get fleeced too badly, and get a good/great package of prospects back. It would create a pretty decent sized hole in CF, so it had better be worth it. And for those that are saying that they'd have a hard time being a Tigers fan if Granderson was traded, please stop. I personally root for the organization more than the players, and if DD feels that Curtis is at his peak value (or beginning a bad decline) and that this would be the best time to get a good value back for him, then why not? Detroit has a nice collection of young players, and they're going to have a *ton* of money coming off the books after next year. That sounds like a great position to be in for an organization and a GM, as long as they don't doing anything mind-numbingly stupid within the next year or so. As long as DD doesn't undervalue (like TSE said) Granderson too badly, I'm sure everything will turn well. I’ve resigned myself to the thought of Curtis being traded. My only hope is that they don’t get fleeced too badly, and get a good/great package of prospects back. It would create a pretty decent sized hole in CF, so it had better be worth it.

And for those that are saying that they’d have a hard time being a Tigers fan if Granderson was traded, please stop. I personally root for the organization more than the players, and if DD feels that Curtis is at his peak value (or beginning a bad decline) and that this would be the best time to get a good value back for him, then why not?

Detroit has a nice collection of young players, and they’re going to have a *ton* of money coming off the books after next year. That sounds like a great position to be in for an organization and a GM, as long as they don’t doing anything mind-numbingly stupid within the next year or so.

As long as DD doesn’t undervalue (like TSE said) Granderson too badly, I’m sure everything will turn well.

]]> By: Mith http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135394 Mith Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:03:28 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/more-granderson-and-jackson-rumors/#comment-135394 I don't know about that. A million miles is pretty far. You're talking 4 times the distance to the moon. I don’t know about that. A million miles is pretty far. You’re talking 4 times the distance to the moon.

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