Comments on: Minor notes: Protection, Bourquin, and the AFL http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:47:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135535 Kathy Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:25:47 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135535 Desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess. Desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess.

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135533 Vince in MN Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:20:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135533 I can see how this could be construed as Drucker offering to pay a $50k kickback to get put on a ML roster. I can see how this could be construed as Drucker offering to pay a $50k kickback to get put on a ML roster.

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135517 Jeff Molby Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:13:17 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135517 Yeah, $50k seems like a joke relative to the 25-man roster spot. Yeah, $50k seems like a joke relative to the 25-man roster spot.

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135516 Jeff Molby Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:11:34 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135516 Yeah, but the net effect is that he'll be $50k cheaper than he'd otherwise be and the $50k would come directly out of his pocket. It's not the kind of precedent MLBPA would like. Yeah, but the net effect is that he’ll be $50k cheaper than he’d otherwise be and the $50k would come directly out of his pocket. It’s not the kind of precedent MLBPA would like.

]]> By: TSE http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135513 TSE Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:22:50 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135513 How do you figure that Coleman, what's the basis for your certainty that he'd have to pay it? How do you figure that Coleman, what’s the basis for your certainty that he’d have to pay it?

]]> By: Joel in Seattle http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135512 Joel in Seattle Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:02:23 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135512 Are you aware of any case in which a team didn't claim a player they wanted because they didn't want to pay a 50K fee? Doesn't seem like a lot of money for a big-league club. Are you aware of any case in which a team didn’t claim a player they wanted because they didn’t want to pay a 50K fee? Doesn’t seem like a lot of money for a big-league club.

]]> By: John Rak http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135511 John Rak Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:47:00 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135511 Catholic Charities of Ventura County is hosting a Celebrity Roast of Baseball’s Hall of Fame Manager George “Sparky” Anderson on Sunday, December 6, 2009 at the Westlake Village Inn. (in Westlake Village, CA) Legendary manager Sparky Anderson will be “mildly seared" by a panel of friends, including Angels’ manager Mike Scioscia and former Dodger manager, Tommy Lasorda. Events starts 5 PM and Tickets are $250 each. For more info contact John Rak 805 279-8484. Catholic Charities of Ventura County is hosting a Celebrity Roast of Baseball’s Hall of Fame Manager George “Sparky” Anderson on Sunday, December 6, 2009 at the Westlake Village Inn. (in Westlake Village, CA) Legendary manager Sparky Anderson will be “mildly seared” by a panel of friends, including Angels’ manager Mike Scioscia and former Dodger manager, Tommy Lasorda. Events starts 5 PM and Tickets are $250 each. For more info contact John Rak 805 279-8484.

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135510 billfer Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:13 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135510 It's not that he's offering to work for cheaper. A team that claims a player in the rule 5 has to pay a 50k fee to the team losing the player. He's just saying that he'd pick up that charge. It’s not that he’s offering to work for cheaper. A team that claims a player in the rule 5 has to pay a 50k fee to the team losing the player. He’s just saying that he’d pick up that charge.

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135509 Vince in MN Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:27:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135509 Hmm. I wonder if his offer is even legitimate. In effect he is offering to work below scale, which might not make the Players Union too happy. Hmm. I wonder if his offer is even legitimate. In effect he is offering to work below scale, which might not make the Players Union too happy.

]]> By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135508 Kathy Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:55:01 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135508 Exactly. Exactly.

]]> By: Matt in Toledo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135505 Matt in Toledo Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:19:02 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135505 The odds that he'd get paid less than $400K if he stuck on a major league roster would also be zero, so it's not a big risk for him and not a great incentive for the team. If he gets picked, it's not going to be because of this offer. The odds that he’d get paid less than $400K if he stuck on a major league roster would also be zero, so it’s not a big risk for him and not a great incentive for the team. If he gets picked, it’s not going to be because of this offer.

]]> By: Coleman http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135503 Coleman Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:23:06 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135503 " well then the expected value of his offer is only worth $10k (and 0 dollars before he is actually selected), or only $5k if you figure at 10% odds. A pretty small price to pay to pitch in the bigs" Well, no. The odds are 100% that it would cost him 50K to pitch in the bigs. The odds are, your scenarios, 4-1 or 9-1 that nobody will take him up on his offer. The odds are 0% that his offer will cost him 5K. ” well then the expected value of his offer is only worth $10k (and 0 dollars before he is actually selected), or only $5k if you figure at 10% odds. A pretty small price to pay to pitch in the bigs”

Well, no. The odds are 100% that it would cost him 50K to pitch in the bigs. The odds are, your scenarios, 4-1 or 9-1 that nobody will take him up on his offer. The odds are 0% that his offer will cost him 5K.

]]> By: TSE http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135502 TSE Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:33:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135502 Most teams probably wouldn't take him up on the offer. Let's say the odds are only 20% that a team would take him up on having to write that check, well then the expected value of his offer is only worth $10k (and 0 dollars before he is actually selected), or only $5k if you figure at 10% odds. A pretty small price to pay to pitch in the bigs. I'd have recommended to him to offer double the amount. Most teams probably wouldn’t take him up on the offer. Let’s say the odds are only 20% that a team would take him up on having to write that check, well then the expected value of his offer is only worth $10k (and 0 dollars before he is actually selected), or only $5k if you figure at 10% odds. A pretty small price to pay to pitch in the bigs. I’d have recommended to him to offer double the amount.

]]> By: Eric Cioe http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135501 Eric Cioe Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:15:57 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/11/minor-notes-protection-bourquin-and-the-afl/#comment-135501 Pretty unbelievable that Drucker would cover the $50,000. He must really, really, really want to pitch in the bigs. Can't say I blame him. Pretty unbelievable that Drucker would cover the $50,000. He must really, really, really want to pitch in the bigs. Can’t say I blame him.

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