Minor notes: Protection, Bourquin, and the AFL

by billfer on November 19, 2009 · 15 comments

in 2009 Season,Minors,Roster Management

Some minor league news and notes:

40 man roster

We’ve talked here already about the Tigers need to trim the 40 man roster and the need to protect players ahead of the rule 5 draft coming up in December. The 40 man will be set initially tomorrow (things could of course change between now and the actual rule 5 draft due to trades/free agent signings).

With that in mind Tigers 40 man roster candidate Scot Drucker really wants to be on a big league roster next year and is offering to pay the the $50,000 rule 5 draft fee for any team that takes him:

@utbaseball30 Deadline for the 40 man rosters tonight, remember to any team that may want me if Im not protected, Ill cover the 50k in the Rule V draft

Not sure if Drucker would look to recoup the $25K if he were returned to the Tigers.

Ronnie Bourquin

The Tigers 2nd round pick from 2006 is eligible for the rule 5 draft. But his status as a prospect was already in doubt as things haven’t gone the way either he or the Tigers would have liked. He finally started to hit in A ball this year before being pushed to Erie where he struggled. Now he’s been suspended 50 games for testing positive for amphetamines.

AFL Championship Game

The Peoria Javelinas will be playing in the AFL Championship game this Saturday. See AFL strike out leader Robbie Weinhardt and other Tigers on the MLB Network and MLB.tv. The game is at 2:45 ET. By that point OSU should be rolling over Michigan so if you need a diversion, see a couple guys who could be helping the Tigers next year finish up their fall season.

 
 

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Eric Cioe November 19, 2009 at 11:15 pm

Pretty unbelievable that Drucker would cover the $50,000. He must really, really, really want to pitch in the bigs. Can’t say I blame him.

TSE November 20, 2009 at 12:33 am

Most teams probably wouldn’t take him up on the offer. Let’s say the odds are only 20% that a team would take him up on having to write that check, well then the expected value of his offer is only worth $10k (and 0 dollars before he is actually selected), or only $5k if you figure at 10% odds. A pretty small price to pay to pitch in the bigs. I’d have recommended to him to offer double the amount.

Coleman November 20, 2009 at 2:23 am

” well then the expected value of his offer is only worth $10k (and 0 dollars before he is actually selected), or only $5k if you figure at 10% odds. A pretty small price to pay to pitch in the bigs”

Well, no. The odds are 100% that it would cost him 50K to pitch in the bigs. The odds are, your scenarios, 4-1 or 9-1 that nobody will take him up on his offer. The odds are 0% that his offer will cost him 5K.

Kathy November 20, 2009 at 9:55 am

Exactly.

TSE November 20, 2009 at 1:22 pm

How do you figure that Coleman, what’s the basis for your certainty that he’d have to pay it?

Matt in Toledo November 20, 2009 at 7:19 am

The odds that he’d get paid less than $400K if he stuck on a major league roster would also be zero, so it’s not a big risk for him and not a great incentive for the team. If he gets picked, it’s not going to be because of this offer.

Vince in MN November 20, 2009 at 11:27 am

Hmm. I wonder if his offer is even legitimate. In effect he is offering to work below scale, which might not make the Players Union too happy.

billfer November 20, 2009 at 11:32 am

It’s not that he’s offering to work for cheaper. A team that claims a player in the rule 5 has to pay a 50k fee to the team losing the player. He’s just saying that he’d pick up that charge.

Joel in Seattle November 20, 2009 at 1:02 pm

Are you aware of any case in which a team didn’t claim a player they wanted because they didn’t want to pay a 50K fee? Doesn’t seem like a lot of money for a big-league club.

Jeff Molby November 20, 2009 at 3:13 pm

Yeah, $50k seems like a joke relative to the 25-man roster spot.

Jeff Molby November 20, 2009 at 3:11 pm

Yeah, but the net effect is that he’ll be $50k cheaper than he’d otherwise be and the $50k would come directly out of his pocket. It’s not the kind of precedent MLBPA would like.

Vince in MN November 21, 2009 at 2:20 am

I can see how this could be construed as Drucker offering to pay a $50k kickback to get put on a ML roster.

Kathy November 21, 2009 at 9:25 am

Desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess.

John Rak November 20, 2009 at 11:47 am

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