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By: Tigers Trade Rumors – Are They For Real? « The Gordie Howe Hat Trick

Tigers Trade Rumors – Are They For Real? « The Gordie Howe Hat Trick — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:01:36 +0000

[...] close to Greinke’s. However, he really tailed off toward the end of the year. Billfer has an excellent post on all the different reasons why the Tigers would look at moving Jackson. Of all his ideas, the [...]

By: kyle carr

kyle carr — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:04:01 +0000

Wow I really dont want to see Granderson go! but just imagine what he would be able to do in the new yanks stadium. I’m willing to bet he would hit 35-40 home runs a year! I really dont see the tigers trading him unless they can dump ome of the big salaries with the trade ! As for Jackson this guy is a bargain at 5 mill a year! I f he would of had any run support last year he would have won 16-18 games! I personally think they need to sit still with the team they have! I really dont think dumping salaries is a good idea for one u dump your all stars, what is that going to have a effect on? Attendance! If people dont come to the games then basically you are rite back to the same amount of capital anyways. So I say grit it out and wait a year and in 2011 they will have some money to play with!

By: What the heck is going on (re: trade rumors)?

What the heck is going on (re: trade rumors)? — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:45:47 +0000

[...] the Jackson rumor hit we went through a number of factors and possible scenarios. With Granderson and Inge added to the list it clears up a lot of the possibilities but I don’t [...]

By: Shane Trapped in Toledo

Shane Trapped in Toledo — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:03:54 +0000

Sure, but Martinez is not a good catcher who will have to play at first base quite a bit and Youkilis will have to play the other half. Ortiz is plugging the DH. They have too many DH/first baseman as is.
I really wish the Cabrera to Red Sox rumor would die.
He is not leaving Detroit. He is the Tigers best offensive player and the team is built around him.

By: dwinning

dwinning — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:37:54 +0000

Right. Someone may have mentioned it somewhere above, but if Dombrowski thinks jackson and granderson are at the peak of their values from here on out and wants to cash in while he still can, he can’t very well SAY that. Instead, he’ll take the approach of “man, these are really stellar players that we love to death, but damn if we just can’t afford them. now give us your best prospects.” It’s not about money. If granderson gets traded, it won’t be a salary dump.

By: dwinning

dwinning — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:30:32 +0000

Youk is a third baseman who’s playing first when lowell’s healthy and effective, which is not so often anymore. They’re looking for a 1B so they can move youk back to third full time.

By: Shane Trapped in Toledo

Shane Trapped in Toledo — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:25:07 +0000

One of the most rational posts in a while.

By: Chauncey

Chauncey — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:44:58 +0000

I still say that if you look at this from purely a financial standpoint, it doesn’t make a ton of sense- yes Grandy is owed about $30 million over the next few years, and Jackson is due to make about 5m next year, but even for a team with a bloated payroll, those are not enormous salaries. If it were purely about salary dollars, one would think that Cabrera would be the first one available.

Like Billfer says, this is probably a combination of the financial situation, and possibly DD acknowledging that this team as it is currently made is not good enough to win next year, so he is trying to stock pile talent and build more payroll flexibility in for 2011 with the few tradeable pieces that he has at his disposal.

By: ian (seattle)

ian (seattle) — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:31:01 +0000

first off…Illitch does not need to cut payroll by selling off the team. He still very much wants a championship..they just cant throw out money this year, so they have to move some players to create capital on the market. Little Caesars is doing well…people opt for the $5 pizza in bad times. Yeah they had a poor attendance in comparison to previous couple years- but those last few years were record! 30% down from a record year at Comerica Park is still better than most ball parks across the nation. Safeco stadium has been a GHOST town by comparison, and Seattle isnt even aware of the recession.

DD just says they are available while listening to offers…which is completely different than being actively “shopped”.

It doesnt mean they want to get rid of them (Dave even said they prefer to keep them), it just means that are not considered untouchable.

BTW I take offense to those that think DD is the worst GM ever…he brought Miguel over by trading a handful of youngins who have ended up less than ideal and/or injured since the trade. He’s also made some great acquisitions like Pudge, Mags, Guillen, Laird, Jackson, Lyon that were all doubted at first and ended up paying large dividends..sure he made some mistakes with Willis, Renteria and extended large contracts to others- but in most cases he rewarded players that had performed great and had seemingly bright futures..its not his fault people boned it after they took Tiger money.

Sometimes you have to trade a Jurrjens to get an experienced tried and true SS that you think is the missing piece to your lineup. Everyone has perfect vision in hindsight..if you could be GM’s for a year, I seriously doubt everyone on this blog would end up praising your efforts at the end of that season.

I feel some of you guys need to move to Toronto to get some appreciation for what a real bad GM can do.

PS- DD has done an outstanding job on the tiger draft picks as well..for both usable players and as trading chips.

By: cib

cib — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:38:12 +0000

I KNOW it’s baseball, yada yada, but if Granderson leaves the Tigers I really don’t know if I would be able to get past that.

By: Stormin Norman $

Stormin Norman $ — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:35:52 +0000

dwinning – i like the deal – Hughes and Gardner (or a solid pitching prospect) for All Star CF and all around good guy Grandy… sounds like a win-win for both teams – the only hitch being the Yankees are notorious for offering up less-than-squat in their deals…

By: Anson

Anson — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:34:26 +0000

Noooooooooo, if they trade Grandy and Jackson I’m changing teams.

By: Coleman

Coleman — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:33:01 +0000

Thanks for the link..although it’s tough reading when you get a first sentence like this: “In a cost-cutting frame of mind, the Tigers have let teams now that…”

I mean, hey Post, I know it’s just a rumor and all, but you could still proofread…

By: Stormin Norman $

Stormin Norman $ — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:18:16 +0000

It takes $22.5M off the books next year (a net savings of $12.5M) that could help sign Lyon and maybe Polanco (to a year deal)…

Without question Bradley is a head case, but he’s a switch-hitter that can hit (.310 in ‘07, .321 in ‘08) …i know, he didn’t this year in Chicago, but he’s only 31 and this year will need to be a make or break year for him – and if he doesn’t produce or he’s a disturbance, you cut him (still have to pay him the $10M for ‘11), and he’s got more of a chance of being productive than either Willis or Robertson will for the Tigers.

When the money is tight and the options are limited, the Tigers have to think outside the box to make some changes, because the status-quo is not going to enable them to compete with the White Sox and Twinkies this year. It could prove to be a crap-for-crap deal, but at least it would net out a savings.

By: Shane Trapped in Toledo

Shane Trapped in Toledo — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:17:13 +0000

Kevin Youkillis is a hole at first base? Plus, Victor Martinez will play plenty at first base next year as well.