Comments on: Sizemore needs surgery http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:09:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jeff Molby http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135208 Jeff Molby Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:04:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135208 I wasn't suggesting Sizemore should play SS. I was just wondering if Guillen could man the position if Sizemore proves to be unready. I wasn’t suggesting Sizemore should play SS. I was just wondering if Guillen could man the position if Sizemore proves to be unready.

]]> By: TSE http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135151 TSE Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:05:58 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135151 Just from what I've read is that there seems to be some concern about Sizemore's defensive ability and if we are going to get use out of an inexpensive prospect, then 2B is the ideal spot for him. It's not really a good idea to wreck the potential of a good young player by playing him in a position that he can't handle. Although I haven't scouted Sizemore so I have no idea how good his defense actually is. Just from what I’ve read is that there seems to be some concern about Sizemore’s defensive ability and if we are going to get use out of an inexpensive prospect, then 2B is the ideal spot for him. It’s not really a good idea to wreck the potential of a good young player by playing him in a position that he can’t handle. Although I haven’t scouted Sizemore so I have no idea how good his defense actually is.

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135148 Jeff Molby Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:42:22 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135148 Is there any reason Guillen couldn't play 2B? Is there any reason Guillen couldn’t play 2B?

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135079 Jeff Molby Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:08:47 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135079 If the Tigers offer arbitration and Polanco declines, whoever signs him will have to give picks to the Tigers. That would make his free market value less than it would be if the Tigers <em>don't</em> offer arbitration. It's all intertwined. The simple act of offering arbitration lowers his free market value and increases the likelihood that he'll stay with the Tigers. If the Tigers offer arbitration and Polanco declines, whoever signs him will have to give picks to the Tigers. That would make his free market value less than it would be if the Tigers don’t offer arbitration.

It’s all intertwined. The simple act of offering arbitration lowers his free market value and increases the likelihood that he’ll stay with the Tigers.

]]> By: Shane Trapped in Toledo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135078 Shane Trapped in Toledo Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:34:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135078 Oops, I think we are arguing seperate points. I was wondering what another team will offer Polanco after he declines the Tiger's arbitartion offer. He will not be back next year. What would he fetch on the free market? Oops, I think we are arguing seperate points. I was wondering what another team will offer Polanco after he declines the Tiger’s arbitartion offer. He will not be back next year. What would he fetch on the free market?

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135077 Jeff Molby Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:24:33 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135077 <blockquote>Making an arbitration offer to free agents classified either as Type A or Type B in the annual Elias rankings is the only way former clubs can secure Draft-pick compensation from signing clubs. Basically, Type A free agents return two picks in the 2009 First-Year Player Draft and Type Bs bring one, a sandwich pick between the first two rounds. But the red-light caveat is the free agent's right to accept the offer of arbitration by a Dec. 7 deadline -- a move that would guarantee him a new contract with his old team. </blockquote> http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081129&content_id=3695771&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp

Making an arbitration offer to free agents classified either as Type A or Type B in the annual Elias rankings is the only way former clubs can secure Draft-pick compensation from signing clubs.

Basically, Type A free agents return two picks in the 2009 First-Year Player Draft and Type Bs bring one, a sandwich pick between the first two rounds.

But the red-light caveat is the free agent’s right to accept the offer of arbitration by a Dec. 7 deadline — a move that would guarantee him a new contract with his old team.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....;fext=.jsp

]]> By: Shane Trapped in Toledo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135076 Shane Trapped in Toledo Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:37:38 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135076 I do not think that Polanco's future team will lose a draft pick, right? Don't the Tigers just get a compensation pick(s) at the end of the first round if that scenario were to happen? Correct me if I am wrong, but it does not seem like the MLBPA would let a player get punished so badly for getting a better contract after an old one expired. I do not think that Polanco’s future team will lose a draft pick, right? Don’t the Tigers just get a compensation pick(s) at the end of the first round if that scenario were to happen? Correct me if I am wrong, but it does not seem like the MLBPA would let a player get punished so badly for getting a better contract after an old one expired.

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135074 Jeff Molby Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:02:59 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135074 The catch is that the teams know he'll cost them draft picks and his value will thus be reduced. Maybe he gets a 3 year, $20m contract if there are no strings attached, but <em>with</em> strings... doubtful. Polly's agent knows that, of course, so they might just call the Tigers' bluff knowing they can probably just try again next season. The catch is that the teams know he’ll cost them draft picks and his value will thus be reduced. Maybe he gets a 3 year, $20m contract if there are no strings attached, but with strings… doubtful. Polly’s agent knows that, of course, so they might just call the Tigers’ bluff knowing they can probably just try again next season.

]]> By: Shane Trapped in Toledo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135073 Shane Trapped in Toledo Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:04:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135073 "Of course, all this requires the Tigers offering Polanco arbitration and him declining." This is what probably will happen. Polanco is in for one more decent payday. He will be looking for a two or three year deal. A deal that he could possibly get from a NL team. The question is how much a team will pay him when he will be towards the end of his career? Does a 3 year, 6 or 7 million per deal sound right? Less? While we are at it, do any of these free agents look good? The always wonderful MLBtraderumors site has them all listed out: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/2010-mlb-free-a.html “Of course, all this requires the Tigers offering Polanco arbitration and him declining.”

This is what probably will happen. Polanco is in for one more decent payday. He will be looking for a two or three year deal. A deal that he could possibly get from a NL team. The question is how much a team will pay him when he will be towards the end of his career? Does a 3 year, 6 or 7 million per deal sound right? Less?

While we are at it, do any of these free agents look good? The always wonderful MLBtraderumors site has them all listed out:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....ree-a.html

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135072 Mark in Chicago Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:03:01 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135072 I believe Polly is a Type A free agent, which means that the Tigers would get the signing team's 1st round pick and a supplemental round pick. If the signing team's 1st rounder is among the first 15 picks, then the Tigers would get a supplemental and that team's 2nd round pick. Of course, all this requires the Tigers offering Polanco arbitration and him declining. I believe Polly is a Type A free agent, which means that the Tigers would get the signing team’s 1st round pick and a supplemental round pick. If the signing team’s 1st rounder is among the first 15 picks, then the Tigers would get a supplemental and that team’s 2nd round pick.

Of course, all this requires the Tigers offering Polanco arbitration and him declining.

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135071 Mark in Chicago Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:12:02 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135071 Sizemore also has pretty good power numbers for a middle infielder, and I've read that scouts like his range but not his hands defensively. That's something that can be improved, I would think. You're right that they could acquire another major-leaguer in a trade, but with the holes elsewhere on the roster and a capable replacement player at the ready, I would be surprised if Sizemore is not the starting 2b next season (assuming he's healthy). Sizemore also has pretty good power numbers for a middle infielder, and I’ve read that scouts like his range but not his hands defensively. That’s something that can be improved, I would think.

You’re right that they could acquire another major-leaguer in a trade, but with the holes elsewhere on the roster and a capable replacement player at the ready, I would be surprised if Sizemore is not the starting 2b next season (assuming he’s healthy).

]]> By: Keith (Mr. X) http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135070 Keith (Mr. X) Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:55:51 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135070 How many draft picks could the Tigers potentially get if Polanco leaves and gets signed by another team? How many draft picks could the Tigers potentially get if Polanco leaves and gets signed by another team?

]]> By: jaws79 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135069 jaws79 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:55:14 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135069 We need Polanco, pure and simple! He is so ball smart that it is amazing. Just keep Polanco!! We need Polanco, pure and simple! He is so ball smart that it is amazing. Just keep Polanco!!

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135066 Jeff Molby Sun, 01 Nov 2009 05:19:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135066 Ya know... I could live with that as long as the Polly money is spent well on any of the other five glaring weaknesses. Ya know… I could live with that as long as the Polly money is spent well on any of the other five glaring weaknesses.

]]> By: Grabber http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135065 Grabber Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:30:38 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/10/sizemore-needs-surgery/#comment-135065 I can see it now... Ryan Rayburn starting at 2B.... I can see it now… Ryan Rayburn starting at 2B….

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