Comments on: links for 2009-09-07 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Jeff Molby http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129848 Jeff Molby Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:49:00 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129848 I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in that. He was converted almost immediately, pitching 12 games in 2001. That's an adequate amount of development time. http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/team/player_career.jsp?player_id=429719&y=2001 I wouldn’t put a whole lot of stock in that. He was converted almost immediately, pitching 12 games in 2001. That’s an adequate amount of development time.

http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/.....038;y=2001

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129847 Jeff Molby Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:46:47 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129847 <blockquote>But the important detail is not how they hit him, but whether or not he threw strikes.</blockquote> At the professional level, the two are inseparable. There are hundreds of thousands of men who can throw BP fastballs for strikes. Major league pitchers are major league pitchers because they can consistently hit specific spots with their key pitches. It doesn't matter if he can throw pitches that weak prospects can't hit; he has to be able to throw pitches that <em>major leaguers</em> can't hit. If he didn't face any guys that are already on the cusp, the box score doesn't matter. You'd have to actually watch him work to see if the approach he used would fly in the majors

But the important detail is not how they hit him, but whether or not he threw strikes.

At the professional level, the two are inseparable. There are hundreds of thousands of men who can throw BP fastballs for strikes. Major league pitchers are major league pitchers because they can consistently hit specific spots with their key pitches. It doesn’t matter if he can throw pitches that weak prospects can’t hit; he has to be able to throw pitches that major leaguers can’t hit. If he didn’t face any guys that are already on the cusp, the box score doesn’t matter. You’d have to actually watch him work to see if the approach he used would fly in the majors

]]> By: Andrew in Toronto http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129846 Andrew in Toronto Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:42:48 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129846 Good idea. I think he had Saturday off, too. If he serves it now, he'll have had almost a week off. Good idea. I think he had Saturday off, too. If he serves it now, he’ll have had almost a week off.

]]> By: ij http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129844 ij Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:31:03 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129844 yeah, but in the fear of losing his touch (he already had sunday/monday off), maybe have him appeal it today- pitch tonight, then drop the appeal tomorrow and serve it out. yeah, but in the fear of losing his touch (he already had sunday/monday off), maybe have him appeal it today- pitch tonight, then drop the appeal tomorrow and serve it out.

]]> By: Matt in Toledo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129843 Matt in Toledo Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:13:14 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129843 It's a good thing one of the fans didn't charge him and throw something at him, or else he would have got five. It’s a good thing one of the fans didn’t charge him and throw something at him, or else he would have got five.

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129842 Vince in MN Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:08:27 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129842 In two or three years, after Leyland's extension expires and he retires, the Tigers may well be in a rebuilding mode, when it would make a lot of sense to bring in Brookens - home grown fan favorite, cheaper, can learn on the job while working with the youngsters he managed in the minors, etc. I also understand that he is already highly regarded for his managing skills. In two or three years, after Leyland’s extension expires and he retires, the Tigers may well be in a rebuilding mode, when it would make a lot of sense to bring in Brookens – home grown fan favorite, cheaper, can learn on the job while working with the youngsters he managed in the minors, etc. I also understand that he is already highly regarded for his managing skills.

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129841 Vince in MN Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:00:42 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129841 2 BB in 6 innings for one game doesn't tell you much. We'll wait until next spring I guess to see if there is real improvement. Whether it is his anxiety disorder, simple mechanics or whatever that is the trouble, hopefully during the off-season he can build on this last performance. 2 BB in 6 innings for one game doesn’t tell you much. We’ll wait until next spring I guess to see if there is real improvement. Whether it is his anxiety disorder, simple mechanics or whatever that is the trouble, hopefully during the off-season he can build on this last performance.

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129840 Vince in MN Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:54:09 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129840 He should probably start serving it right away. Lyon has proved fully capable of filling in, and with the series vs KC beginning tonight, he may not be needed that much (I hope!). He should probably start serving it right away. Lyon has proved fully capable of filling in, and with the series vs KC beginning tonight, he may not be needed that much (I hope!).

]]> By: ij http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129838 ij Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:40:54 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129838 Rodney has been suspended for 3 games, for throwing the ball into the crowd :/ kinda figured that would happen. Rodney has been suspended for 3 games, for throwing the ball into the crowd :/

kinda figured that would happen.

]]> By: RPS http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129837 RPS Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:08:18 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129837 Dontrelle is truly the master of showing signs of goodness when you least expect it. Dontrelle is truly the master of showing signs of goodness when you least expect it.

]]> By: steeser http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129819 steeser Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:38:15 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129819 I agree to take it with a grain of salt...but primarily because we've been here before. But the important detail is not how they hit him, but whether or not he threw strikes. I agree to take it with a grain of salt…but primarily because we’ve been here before.

But the important detail is not how they hit him, but whether or not he threw strikes.

]]> By: ij http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129817 ij Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:54:24 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129817 Tom Brookens (starting lineup article) is supposedly the heir apparent to Leyland (wiki)? Anyone else heard that...? I mean, I liked Brookens..but Id imagine we'd replaced Jim with a more seasoned manager. Also- Id take Dontrelle's win with a grain of salt. After callups, the minors teams are without their best players. Tom Brookens (starting lineup article) is supposedly the heir apparent to Leyland (wiki)? Anyone else heard that…? I mean, I liked Brookens..but Id imagine we’d replaced Jim with a more seasoned manager.

Also- Id take Dontrelle’s win with a grain of salt. After callups, the minors teams are without their best players.

]]> By: Andre in Chi http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129816 Andre in Chi Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:02:59 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129816 Picked this up watching the Ray's broadcast of Jackson's start, and had never heard this before: Jackson is a converted infielder. The broadcasters brought it up, saying that in terms of accumulated pitching knowledge/experience, Jackson was/is still "playing catch-up" in relation to other pitchers his age. Thought that bit was interesting and maybe went some ways towards explaining his "late bloom". Picked this up watching the Ray’s broadcast of Jackson’s start, and had never heard this before: Jackson is a converted infielder. The broadcasters brought it up, saying that in terms of accumulated pitching knowledge/experience, Jackson was/is still “playing catch-up” in relation to other pitchers his age.

Thought that bit was interesting and maybe went some ways towards explaining his “late bloom”.

]]> By: Joel in Seattle http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129815 Joel in Seattle Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:49:00 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129815 Mark: Thanks for the update. As a fellow returned missionary (and Tigers fan, of course), I'm really pulling for Cale. That article makes me feel a lot better. Mark:

Thanks for the update. As a fellow returned missionary (and Tigers fan, of course), I’m really pulling for Cale. That article makes me feel a lot better.

]]> By: Eddie http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129812 Eddie Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:14:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/09/links-for-2009-09-07/#comment-129812 It's too bad Ernie is wrong on Torii Hunter's defense. It's great to see him passing on the knowledge though. Hopefully there are several more Ernie articles ahead. It’s too bad Ernie is wrong on Torii Hunter’s defense. It’s great to see him passing on the knowledge though. Hopefully there are several more Ernie articles ahead.

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