Game 2009.144: Royals at Tigers

PREGAME: Tigers fans a couple weeks ago looked at the schedule and though, “dude we’re playing the Royals at home, that’s like a sweep,” and the dudes probably would have been thinking the Tigers would win. But then the Tigers lost. And Jarrod Washburn struggled in his last start. And Robinson Tejeda was bringing serious stuff in his last start and suddenly things don’t look so bright and shiny. At least not in this match-up.

Maybe the Tigers can learn from their last time out against the Royals though. Like maybe the hitters should try a different game plan against Tejeda and maybe Washburn should try a different game plan against the Royals. (oddly enough Washburn didn’t allow a homer in that game, just lots and lots of baserunners). It is noteworthy that Washburn has allowed homers in every game he’s pitched as a Tiger – except when facing the Royals.

Your, “Drinks are on Maggs, the boy is vesting tonight” lineup:

  1. Granderson, CF
  2. Guillen, LF
  3. Ordonez, RF
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Huff, DH
  6. Avila, C
  7. Inge, 3B
  8. Santiago, 2B
  9. Everett, SS

Kansas City vs. Detroit – September 15, 2009 | MLB.com: Gameday

POSTGAME: Washburn is toast. Tejeda is good. Maggs is rich(er). Boras is a clown. At least nobody got hurt.

92 Comments

  1. Walter55

    September 15, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    It is kind of crazy how many different lineups we have used over the last month or so about the only thing for sure everyday is Miguel is hitting cleanup. Would be really nice to do well in this series and put another game between us and the Minn/ChicWS before our big road trip.

  2. Forty

    September 15, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Congrats Magglio!

  3. lala

    September 15, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Assburn better not blow it like he usually does

    • Coleman

      September 15, 2009 at 6:57 pm

      Jarrod and Ryan: The Burn Brothers

  4. Coleman

    September 15, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    If drinks were really on Maggs I would have been WAY pushing for him to get his ABs this season…

  5. Coleman

    September 15, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    This is a Lefty Lineup, so one can’t tell–any updates on Raburn’s knee (I’m gonna have to start calling him Baby Inge again if he’s gonna be playing with bad knees…)?

  6. Coleman

    September 15, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    When a player has a vesting contract like this, and reaches the requisite number of at bats, they really should call time for a very brief ceremony where they put an actual vest on him that he wears over his jersey the rest of the game.

    They already use St. Patrick’s Day-Paper-Hat-Green for the Masters and 1978-Mercury -Marquis-Yellow for the NFL Hall of Fame, so I’m thinking maybe Crossing-Guard-Orange would be the thing…

    • Ron

      September 15, 2009 at 7:49 pm

      I choked on my pizza when I read this. FYI.

  7. mcb

    September 15, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Not a good start

  8. mcb

    September 15, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Miner might become the 4th starter

  9. Brenden

    September 15, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Washburn, proving yet again what a waste of minor league talent he really is.

  10. Brenden

    September 15, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    This guy has done more harm than good since becoming a Tiger…

  11. Andrew

    September 15, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    Dear Washburn,

    Please throw strikes. It’s the Royals, not murderers row.

    Thanks. :)

  12. Mark@HOU

    September 15, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    I’m blaming Billfer for not updating the Anthem singer record. To paraphrase Bull Durham, you don’t “mess” with a winning streak.

    • billfer

      September 15, 2009 at 8:43 pm

      I interviewed a national anthem singer. I’ve gone wall to wall national anthem around this place lately. I’ve gotta put the blame on Washburn.

      • Mark@HOU

        September 15, 2009 at 9:47 pm

        OK 50-50%

        I will say Washburn seems to have the skin of a 12 year old. You could see him collapse after Mags misplayed that double.

  13. Coleman

    September 15, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Hmmm, Avila may not have any holes in his swing but there may be one in his catcher’s mitt, he should have some one take a look at that for him

    • Coleman

      September 15, 2009 at 7:19 pm

      Then again: don’t matter none

  14. Andrew

    September 15, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Um, not those kind of strikes. Sheesh.

    • Coleman

      September 15, 2009 at 7:21 pm

      I’m blaming you. You didn’t specify.

      Actually Washburn is cleverly helping the team to keep utilizing their comeback powers while they got them cranked up

      • Andrew

        September 15, 2009 at 7:28 pm

        Crap, my bad fellas :)

        You know, maybe Ordonez already started buying drinks for Washburn before the game & that is the real problem ;)

        • Coleman

          September 15, 2009 at 7:31 pm

          Good point, maybe he drank until his leg felt better.

  15. Brenden

    September 15, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    Wow…unfreakin’ believable. Put this one in the lost column.

  16. Brenden

    September 15, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    He is all over the frickin’….

  17. Mcb

    September 15, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    They need to just shut him downfor theseason. This has been pathetic

  18. Joey in Portland Or

    September 15, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Has Washburn ever been as bad as he has since becoming a Tig?

  19. Mike in CT

    September 15, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Hard to figure what’s more infuriating, the wind-blown double to Willie freaking Bloomquist or a four-pitch walk to GIDP machine Miguel Olivo. Oh right, the homer by Callaspo.

    Are the Royals in this team’s head?

    • Coleman

      September 15, 2009 at 7:25 pm

      At least we can thank Avila for the passed ball, he saved us from the indignity of a Callaspo grand slam…

  20. Andrew

    September 15, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Okay, I’ll admit it – I thought the Washburn trade would be a plus when it took place. I might have even said so here.

    Right now, I don’t care if I ever see him pitch in a Tigers uniform again. This has worked out about as well as when we picked up Farnsworthless a second time around.

    • Brenden

      September 15, 2009 at 7:26 pm

      I concur.

  21. Coleman

    September 15, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    In retrospect the DeJesus AB to lead off the game may turn out to be today’s highlight…

  22. jason

    September 15, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    OK, so any time now we can DL Washburn.
    Is there any doubt now that Porcello is our 3rd playoff starter?

    • Shane Trapped in Toledo

      September 15, 2009 at 7:46 pm

      You are right. Washburn can hardly walk, let alone pitch. Either pump his knee so full of cortisone that he cannot feel below his hips and becomes serviceable or put him on the DL.
      The question is whether the Tigers can call up another pitcher. Obviously that pitcher could not be on the playoff roster, but they could hopefully make a few starts. Is there anyone who could do that with the minor league season is over? Or could the Tigers make a Matt Stairs like pick-up and bring in somebody to start a few times?

  23. Brenden

    September 15, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    What the crap is Guillen swining at? Seriously? Is this how we are going to end the season, losing six straight to the Royals?

  24. Mcb

    September 15, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    If we get swept again here any into the baggy dome with only a 3 game lead we are in serious trouble.

  25. Andrew

    September 15, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    Washburn owned the Tigers when he pitched against them. Now when he pitches everyone owns the Tigers.

  26. Andrew

    September 15, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Coleman – the rabbit is pitching!

    • Coleman

      September 15, 2009 at 7:34 pm

      Zach Miner looks like a rabbit

    • Coleman

      September 15, 2009 at 7:35 pm

      I’m not sure if it works this early in the game…

      • Andrew

        September 15, 2009 at 7:42 pm

        We’ll just have to hope, then.

  27. Coleman

    September 15, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    It’s gonna be tough to make up 4 runs against Cy Tejada.

    Oh well, at least we have the Vest Ceremony to look forward to…

  28. Mike in CT

    September 15, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    What really depresses me, the Tigers are in a pennant race, meanwhile they’re in life-or-death struggles against teams (Oakland, Toronto, KC, etc.) that were dead a long time ago and the players are just trying to pad their stats so they get a contract next year.

    …and the only way for this night to get better?

    Zach Miner!

    Ugh.

    • Coleman

      September 15, 2009 at 8:02 pm

      Hey now…Respect the Rabbit!

  29. Brenden

    September 15, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    I just looked at the probable pitchers for the rest of this series and can’t help but have a bad feeling about it…

  30. ouchudied

    September 15, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Hey guys, its not that bad. Its not like we are getting no-hit or anything. Oh, wait…

    • Coleman

      September 15, 2009 at 8:05 pm

      Yeah but we’re making him throw tons of pitches, so he’ll have to leave in the 7th with a no-hitter going.

      Ha ha! How demoralizing!

      • ouchudied

        September 15, 2009 at 8:09 pm

        That has sadly been my train of thought too many times this year. On the bright side, we did just get a hit, and one from Curtis. They need to get to Tejada this inning before its too late.

  31. Dave111

    September 15, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    There is some satisfaction in the thought that Washburn should have a very hard time convincing any contender thay might consider signing him that he can be trusted to pitch in a pennant race. I hear the Pirates and Nationals are looking for mediocre lefthanded starters.

  32. Andrew

    September 15, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Earn that vest now, Magglio.

  33. Coleman

    September 15, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Santiago should’ve tagged on that one and hoped Betancourt would flub the throw, that seems to be our best play

    • Coleman

      September 15, 2009 at 8:25 pm

      Then again: don’t matter none

  34. Coleman

    September 15, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    Hey, where’s that silly rabbit?

    • Andrew

      September 15, 2009 at 8:27 pm

      Apparently eating a bowl full of Trix.

      • Coleman

        September 15, 2009 at 8:30 pm

        Silly Rabbit! Runs are for Royals!

  35. ouchudied

    September 15, 2009 at 8:24 pm

    I rarely call a game over in the fourth inning but this one is done. Just changed the channel. Have a good night, folks.

  36. jason

    September 15, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Turn out the lights.

  37. Mike in CT

    September 15, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    the only question left….which position player pitches the 8th and 9th?

  38. Andrew

    September 15, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    This calls for the perfect cheer. U-G-L-Y you don’t got no alibi, you’re UGLY, you’re UGLY.

    That’s what this game is looking like – UGLY with a big Ugh.

  39. Coleman

    September 15, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    To add insult to injury today they announced the Opening Day schedule for next season. We open on the road…at Kansas City. Whee!

  40. Stephen

    September 15, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Hey, missed yesterday! Wasn’t yesterday great!

  41. Andrew

    September 15, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Do you suppose we can win for Ernie tomorrow night?

  42. Andrew in Toronto

    September 15, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    So, if Miner is only capable of pitching 2 innings now, who is going to take Washburn’s place in the rotation?

  43. Randolph

    September 15, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Maybe in tomorrow’s Detroit News Lynn Henning will do an article about Assburn’s stocking dropping tremendously in one month…

  44. Stephen

    September 15, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    85 wins takes the AL Central. And that’s with the Twins going 13-5. There’s no way the Tigers don’t get to 85.

    • Andrew

      September 15, 2009 at 8:56 pm

      Thanks for the info. Right now that doesn’t quite help us choke down this game, but it’s a start :) Honestly, if it wasn’t the friggin’ Royals I wouldn’t be all too upset. I just can’t stand losing so many games to a perennial Division bottom feeder.

  45. Kevin in Dallas

    September 15, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Obviously the Mariners knew a lot more than we did. Now I see why the USS Mariner was so pumped about the deal. I don’t think French is all that, Washburn was worth the risk. Didn’t go our way, but props to DD for taking a stab. The Huff move already won us 1 game. We’ll win the Central even with his terrible pitching, just gonna need the kid if we expect to go any further than that.

    (Don’t forget that Twinkies are sans Morneau for the year)

    • Stephen

      September 15, 2009 at 8:58 pm

      Uh, don’t we think Huff’s suckiness has cost us more than one game?

      • Kathy

        September 15, 2009 at 9:08 pm

        Oh, hush, stephen!

        • Kevin in Dallas

          September 15, 2009 at 9:11 pm

          Hmm, well, considering his OPS+ is 59, then yeah, he might have a negative WARP since he’s been here. I’m not sure if anyone calculates that in-season. Though I wasn’t against that move when it was made.

          • Jeff

            September 15, 2009 at 9:21 pm

            He’s at -0.4 WAR with the Tigers, according to Fangraphs.

  46. Randolph

    September 15, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    and that’s the official end of the game…disgusting to see so many men left on base each and every game.

  47. Walter55

    September 15, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Well I have said it before that I understand why the Washburn move was made and I was fine with what he gave up to take a chance to really improve our staff. But it sure has not worked out as Washburn has been a train wreck. I don’t even think you can pitch him any more as he has been that bad. As for Huff he has not been great either but it is not look like he replaced somebody that was doing any better.

    Also what is Alfredo Figaro’s status is he healthy enough to pitch or did he finish the year on the DL?

  48. Kathy

    September 15, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    What a butt-kicking game so far. It’s embarassing.

  49. Kevin in Dallas

    September 15, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Here’s something fun – currently there are 3 highlight videos on the iPhone At-Bat application:

    “Callaspo’s three-run shot” (pretty legit)

    “DeJesus’ three-run shot” (nice)

    “Guillen’s RB single”

    Which one doesn’t belong with the others?

  50. Stephen

    September 15, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    Tigers currently only +9 runs for the entire season meaning they are one blowout short of achieving the pretty awesome feat of making the playoffs with a negative run differential. Seriously, that would be sort of awesome.

    • Kevin in Dallas

      September 15, 2009 at 9:21 pm

      Their X W-L is gonna go to 72-72, which generally leaves 2 explanations for being 10 games over. Incredible luck, or incredible managing.

      • Stephen

        September 15, 2009 at 9:23 pm

        Yeah, I thought they would go 76-86 this year, the numbers suggest 82-80, and yet they will go 86-76 and win the division. Go figure. (Or more to the point, don’t figure).

      • Coleman

        September 16, 2009 at 3:48 pm

        A 3rd explanation: the imbalance in home vs road record, even with the high number of walk off wins.

        The X W-L is based on Runs Scored vs Runs Allowed; in home victories you have 8 innings of run scoring and 9 innings of run allowing, except in the case of 9th (or extra) inning walk off wins–but even then your scoring is cut short when that rally-killing-winning-run scores and ends the game.

        This also excuses somewhat the Tigers low ranking in some of the quantitative offensive categories. Their home record is actually costing them several plate appearances per game.

        I’m not sure why it took me so long to realize this…

        • Coleman

          September 16, 2009 at 4:08 pm

          OK, that actually checks out. I calculated the X W-L for our home games: 55.12%, or 40 – 32 (we are 47 – 25). We are actually slightly worse in road games than we should be 30 – 42 (vs 33 – 39).

          This works for any team with an unusually good home record. Yankees? 93 – 53, X W-L 86 – 60. Great managing? More likely it’s that 51 – 23 home record.

    • Brenden

      September 15, 2009 at 11:02 pm

      Playoffs? We are a KC and Metro-dome sweeps away from being out of 1st Place. I have little concern about the playoffs, I’m just hoping for a few wins in the next couple games.

  51. Stephen

    September 15, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Other fun fact: Blue Jays are +13 and are 65-79.

  52. mark_in_gr

    September 15, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Can we please stick a fork in Bonderman already?

  53. Stephen

    September 15, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    I was wrong! Tigers may hit minus run differential in next 24 hrs!

  54. mark_in_gr

    September 15, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Was it just me, or did I notice Illitch’s arm reaching around to strangle DD in the team pic today?

  55. Stephen

    September 15, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    The firm of Washburn, Willis, Robertson, and Bonderman is billing 40 million dollars this year.

    (Yes, I know the Tigers are only paying a fraction of Washburn’s).

    • MCM

      September 16, 2009 at 7:20 am

      Are they hiring?

  56. Stephen

    September 15, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    The firm of Washburn, Willis, Robertson, and Bonderman have won 3 games for the Tigers.

  57. Stephen

    September 15, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    And yet they have a 90% of making the playoffs! The 09 Tigers are an enigma wrapped in a mystery.

    • Jeff

      September 15, 2009 at 9:42 pm

      Doesn’t that say more about their competitors than them?

      • Kevin in Dallas

        September 15, 2009 at 9:57 pm

        I’m just enjoying the ride. Most down here in DFW are checking out on the Rangers.

  58. Joey in Portland OR

    September 15, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    At least we won’t need Rodney tonight…

    • Kathy

      September 15, 2009 at 9:54 pm

      He’s suspended til tomorrow.