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	<title>Comments on: Game 2009.104: Orioles at Tigers</title>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/08/game-2009-104-orioles-at-tigers/#comment-125721</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if any team has 1-2 hitters who take more 1st pitch strikes than Granderson-Polanco?  (Although Polanco hardly has the hesitation/guessing problem Granderson does on subsequent pitches).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if any team has 1-2 hitters who take more 1st pitch strikes than Granderson-Polanco?  (Although Polanco hardly has the hesitation/guessing problem Granderson does on subsequent pitches).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin on an iPhone</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/08/game-2009-104-orioles-at-tigers/#comment-125686</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin on an iPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Works okay for me Coleman.  Just get it fixed, we need your posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Works okay for me Coleman.  Just get it fixed, we need your posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in CT</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/08/game-2009-104-orioles-at-tigers/#comment-125685</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike in CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I could help, the scripts in the browser aren&#039;t good, very quirky. Safari on or off the iPhone is not my choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I could help, the scripts in the browser aren&#8217;t good, very quirky. Safari on or off the iPhone is not my choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he takes a first pitch fastball every single time up whether it is in the middle of the plate or anywhere else in the strikes zone..most times its right in the middle...has he hit a first pitch all season? after that first pitch he guesses wrong alot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he takes a first pitch fastball every single time up whether it is in the middle of the plate or anywhere else in the strikes zone..most times its right in the middle&#8230;has he hit a first pitch all season? after that first pitch he guesses wrong alot</p>
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		<title>By: Jud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All things considered ..pretty big win...way to go Clete..and Miggy chipped in big time..hope that starts him on a roll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All things considered ..pretty big win&#8230;way to go Clete..and Miggy chipped in big time..hope that starts him on a roll</p>
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		<title>By: charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/08/game-2009-104-orioles-at-tigers/#comment-125682</link>
		<dc:creator>charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can see clete thomas as the everyday RF next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can see clete thomas as the everyday RF next year.</p>
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		<title>By: KW</title>
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		<dc:creator>KW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad we gutted this one out, but Grandy looks so lost at the plate lately. Am I the only one who thinks he&#039;s usually guessing at pitches?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad we gutted this one out, but Grandy looks so lost at the plate lately. Am I the only one who thinks he&#8217;s usually guessing at pitches?</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s just me--and I&#039;ve got one of the early iPhones, not a 3G--but ever since the upgrade to 3.0 it&#039;s been a huge pain trying to post here;  it keeps refreshing before I can finish typing a comment.  Anyone else have that problem or know a solution (I tried the full web version also, same thing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me&#8211;and I&#8217;ve got one of the early iPhones, not a 3G&#8211;but ever since the upgrade to 3.0 it&#8217;s been a huge pain trying to post here;  it keeps refreshing before I can finish typing a comment.  Anyone else have that problem or know a solution (I tried the full web version also, same thing).</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I&#039;m not sure what that&#039;s all about.  I can see why it seemed like I was agreeing with Mike about leaving, although I think you figured out I was just using his comment as a starting point for my complaint about pitching to Scott.  And although we did disagree about that, that seems to be kind of textbook for the right sort of things to argue about; both having reasons for our opinions, neither being disrespectful in disagreeing, and moving on to other things as the game developed.  

So no problem here.  Except maybe the Doogie watching...hehe....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I&#8217;m not sure what that&#8217;s all about.  I can see why it seemed like I was agreeing with Mike about leaving, although I think you figured out I was just using his comment as a starting point for my complaint about pitching to Scott.  And although we did disagree about that, that seems to be kind of textbook for the right sort of things to argue about; both having reasons for our opinions, neither being disrespectful in disagreeing, and moving on to other things as the game developed.  </p>
<p>So no problem here.  Except maybe the Doogie watching&#8230;hehe&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hats off to Walkoff Clete, Clutch Cabrera, and Rockin&#039; Ramon.  They not only pulled this one out to get the W for the D, they did something far, far more important.

Until we caught up, Luke Scott stood to have the game-winning hit, which could have triggered an outbreak of mental derangement among Tiger fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hats off to Walkoff Clete, Clutch Cabrera, and Rockin&#8217; Ramon.  They not only pulled this one out to get the W for the D, they did something far, far more important.</p>
<p>Until we caught up, Luke Scott stood to have the game-winning hit, which could have triggered an outbreak of mental derangement among Tiger fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And maybe the Celery-bration will catch on after wins...well, OK, probably not...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And maybe the Celery-bration will catch on after wins&#8230;well, OK, probably not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry the Tiger Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry the Tiger Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My hat is off to Verlander.  Very gutsy, acey (I&#039;m making up adjectives now) perfromance by Verlander after that wild first inning.  I almost got online and unleashed an ugly diatribe against JV, but after the team came back with 3 in the bottom half I decided I&#039;d wait until after the game to post.  I am here to instead congratulate JV and the entire team for not kowtowing to the O&#039;s and taking a beating for a second straight day.  I don&#039;t know what is in the air or the water at Comerica, but the Tigers ought to botlle and take it with them to Boston for the next road trip.  How can this team look so inept nearly every night on the road and play baseball at a .667 clip at home?  I don&#039;t know the answer, but if they can keep up this home winning pace they&#039;ll only need to play .450 ball or so on the road the rest of the way?  Can they do it?  I sure hope so.  The odds say that they gotta start winning a few road games, but the odds also say that they won&#039;t continue to play .667 ball at home all year either.  Either way, I&#039;ll be watching and hoping for the best for the guys wearing the Olde English D on their caps.  Great win tonight fellas, its nice to go to sleep off of a nice comeback win like tonight&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hat is off to Verlander.  Very gutsy, acey (I&#8217;m making up adjectives now) perfromance by Verlander after that wild first inning.  I almost got online and unleashed an ugly diatribe against JV, but after the team came back with 3 in the bottom half I decided I&#8217;d wait until after the game to post.  I am here to instead congratulate JV and the entire team for not kowtowing to the O&#8217;s and taking a beating for a second straight day.  I don&#8217;t know what is in the air or the water at Comerica, but the Tigers ought to botlle and take it with them to Boston for the next road trip.  How can this team look so inept nearly every night on the road and play baseball at a .667 clip at home?  I don&#8217;t know the answer, but if they can keep up this home winning pace they&#8217;ll only need to play .450 ball or so on the road the rest of the way?  Can they do it?  I sure hope so.  The odds say that they gotta start winning a few road games, but the odds also say that they won&#8217;t continue to play .667 ball at home all year either.  Either way, I&#8217;ll be watching and hoping for the best for the guys wearing the Olde English D on their caps.  Great win tonight fellas, its nice to go to sleep off of a nice comeback win like tonight&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think maybe there are a few Tigers who should be joining you in the post-game celery consumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think maybe there are a few Tigers who should be joining you in the post-game celery consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1st pitch GIDPs:  22 in 450 PA (1 in 20 PA).  Non-1st pitch GIDPs: 1 in 47 PA

Cabrera GIDPs:  15 in 428 PAs.  ( 1 in 29 PA).  1st pitch PAs:  5 GIDP in 69 PAs.  (1 in 14 PAs).

Generally it looks like your odds for the GIDP double when you hit the 1st pitch.

Of course there&#039;s a chicken-egg thing there, since the guys who don&#039;t hit into many GIDP (Granderson, Inge), also don&#039;t swing at many 1st pitches, so it&#039;s hard to read much into it as far as cause and effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1st pitch GIDPs:  22 in 450 PA (1 in 20 PA).  Non-1st pitch GIDPs: 1 in 47 PA</p>
<p>Cabrera GIDPs:  15 in 428 PAs.  ( 1 in 29 PA).  1st pitch PAs:  5 GIDP in 69 PAs.  (1 in 14 PAs).</p>
<p>Generally it looks like your odds for the GIDP double when you hit the 1st pitch.</p>
<p>Of course there&#8217;s a chicken-egg thing there, since the guys who don&#8217;t hit into many GIDP (Granderson, Inge), also don&#8217;t swing at many 1st pitches, so it&#8217;s hard to read much into it as far as cause and effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike in CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude...I posted one post because it seemed everyone on this board, myself included, had become overtly negative, well, with good reason after yesterday&#039;s effort. 

I stuck with this game the whole way, but had to run out and kept tally with the iPhone MLB app (aka the best $10 every spent). It was nice not to live-and-die with each and every pitch for a change, it is a long season. 

It was pretty beautiful, since the highlight of the Thomas homer were up quick. 

Great win, and let&#039;s build some momentum in Washburn&#039;s Comerica debut tomorrow.

(Oh and one more thing, gutsy game from Verlander. Took one for the team and amazingly, his arm didn&#039;t fall out after the magic 100-pitch threshold.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude&#8230;I posted one post because it seemed everyone on this board, myself included, had become overtly negative, well, with good reason after yesterday&#8217;s effort. </p>
<p>I stuck with this game the whole way, but had to run out and kept tally with the iPhone MLB app (aka the best $10 every spent). It was nice not to live-and-die with each and every pitch for a change, it is a long season. </p>
<p>It was pretty beautiful, since the highlight of the Thomas homer were up quick. </p>
<p>Great win, and let&#8217;s build some momentum in Washburn&#8217;s Comerica debut tomorrow.</p>
<p>(Oh and one more thing, gutsy game from Verlander. Took one for the team and amazingly, his arm didn&#8217;t fall out after the magic 100-pitch threshold.)</p>
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