But I don’t know. Porcello looks amazing right now, but a lot can go wrong between now and 10 years. Again, I don’t think I’d do it, but I’d definitely consider it.

And I’m still not convinced the appearance of Kenny, Clemons-like, in the 2nd half of the season is an impossibility (as far as I can tell he never has officially retired, he is listed as a free-agent). If nothing else he would shore up the one weak spot of our defense compared to last season–the pitcher’s mound.

Besides, how does that help us this year? We’d still need another starter.

Porcello has the stuff to be a #1, but I’d at least take a look at any deal for Halladay. I think the guy has at least 3 or 4 unbelievable years left in him.

All the pitchers that come to mind who were dominant into their mid-30s stayed dominant into their late 30s (Clemens, Maddux, Glavine, Johnson). In fact, Pedro is the only one that I can think of who fell precipitously, and I think it’s because he called himself the Yankees’ b.

That said, I just invested 10 min of my life in b-r and BP, and here’s what I found. Halladay’s similarity scores list is pretty stout, but most of those guys declined rapidly at 33/34. Based on similarity score age, I’d give him a 50/50 chance of being a great pitcher in 3 years.

Over at BP, they’ve got him with a 20+ VORP through age 36, though those figures don’t include this year’s #’s, which leads me to believe that his high VORP predictions may be extended.

Conclusion, I don’t deal Porcello for Halladay, but I consider everyone else, including Paws.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if we are currently seeing the peak of Halladay’s dominance. I think the Jays are well aware of this and realize his stock is at it absolute high point right now.

In other words, we don’t need him.

1. Rick Porcello
2. Ryan Perry
3. Cale Iorg ( dad played for the jays and they love that kind of stuff)
4. Ryan Strieby
5. Danny Worth or another infield prospect

Iif you think anything less you are kidding your-self. You also get Halladay for the stretch run and next year. The tigers will also be able to afford an extension with Magglio & Sheff coming off the books and Doc is only 33.

I haven’t heard that much noise these last couple years surrounding our SS prospects, I don’t see why the Jays would rate them higher than we would.

Yes, we have more “depth” at starting pitching than most teams, but that’s very much an “on paper” type of statement. Looking past Verlander, the proven quality of our starters (ie. performing year in and year out) is scarce, and those that are proven commodities are either injured (Bonderman), or guys we aren’t likely to part with (Jackson).

I’ll lose my mind with delight if we pick up Halladay on the cheap though.

“According to a source familiar with the Blue Jays’ needs, they want a young shortstop and a back-of-the-rotation starter in a package for Halladay.”

“in a package” to me means that it’s going to take more than just those two players to get a deal done.

The Jays have to keep salary low, hence the need to move Halladay, but I agree with Mark that “young shortstop” + “4-5th starter” is light. As in very light. As in, you’d have to force-trade on MLB 2k.