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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/07/game-2009-099-tigers-at-rangers/#comment-124875</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blame myself for the Tigers&#039; losing streak. On Saturday, I took advantage of the MLB Extra Innings half-season deal on DirecTV, looking forward to an exciting run for the division title. The three games since? Well, you see what&#039;s happened.

Seriously, I have not watched many Tigers games this season, being out of market in Virginia, so last night&#039;s game got me really down. I was heartened to read Billfer say it was the worst performance of the season. Let&#039;s hope this is rock bottom and that the Tigers show some energy tonight with Verlander on the mound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame myself for the Tigers&#8217; losing streak. On Saturday, I took advantage of the MLB Extra Innings half-season deal on DirecTV, looking forward to an exciting run for the division title. The three games since? Well, you see what&#8217;s happened.</p>
<p>Seriously, I have not watched many Tigers games this season, being out of market in Virginia, so last night&#8217;s game got me really down. I was heartened to read Billfer say it was the worst performance of the season. Let&#8217;s hope this is rock bottom and that the Tigers show some energy tonight with Verlander on the mound.</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree as well. Sure, Inge isn&#039;t a perrenial all-star. But to be fair to the guy: His BA was much higher than his career average at the break, his HR and RBI numbers were well within the league leaders, and he&#039;s arguably the best defensive 3B in baseball. 
In the grand scheme of things, I felt he deserved the nod. 

And I really hope he picks up his hitting again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree as well. Sure, Inge isn&#8217;t a perrenial all-star. But to be fair to the guy: His BA was much higher than his career average at the break, his HR and RBI numbers were well within the league leaders, and he&#8217;s arguably the best defensive 3B in baseball.<br />
In the grand scheme of things, I felt he deserved the nod. </p>
<p>And I really hope he picks up his hitting again.</p>
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		<title>By: scotsw</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that was a disgusting game. Utterly contemptible. The Tigers made a succession of mediocre relievers look like Mark Buerhle last night.

What we see on the field is the unavoidable outcome of having so many unproductive veterans on the Tigers payroll, starting with Gary Sheffield. You will always have injuries and slumps, but the dead weight dragging on this organization is really, really massive. It is a miracle, really, that they are even near first place, and a testament to the abilities of this organization to draft well and develop useful major-leaguers.

You cannot blame Dave Dombrowski for all this. Sheffield is doing better this year for the Mets, but he&#039;s still only worth $1-2 million, and is a shell of his former self. Bonderman&#039;s health issues weren&#039;t Dombrowski&#039;s fault, nor are Carlos Guillen&#039;s (and we know he&#039;s a wonderful player when healthy). Re-signing Willis was probably a hasty move, but nobody expected him to be THIS awful. Robertson pulled a disappearing act -- one hopes his elbow masses really were the reason he was struggling. And then there&#039;s Ordonez... So the Tigers are in a spot where almost ALL of their highly-paid players are radically under-producing. And even Cabrera is having an oddly ineffective year (though I would argue he&#039;s been playing well and very unlucky).

Simply imagine if Ilitch was getting his money&#039;s worth from even two of these guys: Bonderman, Zumaya, Robertson, Willis, Sheffield, Guillen, Ordonez. This is sort of a string of luck that goes back to Higgenson, Purcival and Dmitri Young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that was a disgusting game. Utterly contemptible. The Tigers made a succession of mediocre relievers look like Mark Buerhle last night.</p>
<p>What we see on the field is the unavoidable outcome of having so many unproductive veterans on the Tigers payroll, starting with Gary Sheffield. You will always have injuries and slumps, but the dead weight dragging on this organization is really, really massive. It is a miracle, really, that they are even near first place, and a testament to the abilities of this organization to draft well and develop useful major-leaguers.</p>
<p>You cannot blame Dave Dombrowski for all this. Sheffield is doing better this year for the Mets, but he&#8217;s still only worth $1-2 million, and is a shell of his former self. Bonderman&#8217;s health issues weren&#8217;t Dombrowski&#8217;s fault, nor are Carlos Guillen&#8217;s (and we know he&#8217;s a wonderful player when healthy). Re-signing Willis was probably a hasty move, but nobody expected him to be THIS awful. Robertson pulled a disappearing act &#8212; one hopes his elbow masses really were the reason he was struggling. And then there&#8217;s Ordonez&#8230; So the Tigers are in a spot where almost ALL of their highly-paid players are radically under-producing. And even Cabrera is having an oddly ineffective year (though I would argue he&#8217;s been playing well and very unlucky).</p>
<p>Simply imagine if Ilitch was getting his money&#8217;s worth from even two of these guys: Bonderman, Zumaya, Robertson, Willis, Sheffield, Guillen, Ordonez. This is sort of a string of luck that goes back to Higgenson, Purcival and Dmitri Young.</p>
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		<title>By: scotsw</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/07/game-2009-099-tigers-at-rangers/#comment-124871</link>
		<dc:creator>scotsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen,

*Sigh* What&#039;s the point?

The guy is giving it everything he&#039;s got.

Guys make the All-Star game all the time because they play in big cities. Geez, the Vets just voted in a Yankee shortstop with a lifetime batting average lower than Marcus Thames&#039;, so undeserving guys make the Hall, too. I&#039;m not a baseball-history guru, but I am reasonably aware of the game&#039;s past greats, and I&#039;VE HARDLY HEARD OF THE GUY. It&#039;s called the Hall of FAME. I&#039;ll grant that he was probably a real good shortstop, but &quot;famous&quot; he wasn&#039;t, and he got in on pinstriped coat-tails.

Brandon Inge won a FAN vote because people like him and he busts his ass. Winning the vote IS the criterion. Arguing that it&#039;s not legitimate is silly, because the standard you would like to apply to getting into the All-Star game is not, in fact, the actual standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p>
<p>*Sigh* What&#8217;s the point?</p>
<p>The guy is giving it everything he&#8217;s got.</p>
<p>Guys make the All-Star game all the time because they play in big cities. Geez, the Vets just voted in a Yankee shortstop with a lifetime batting average lower than Marcus Thames&#8217;, so undeserving guys make the Hall, too. I&#8217;m not a baseball-history guru, but I am reasonably aware of the game&#8217;s past greats, and I&#8217;VE HARDLY HEARD OF THE GUY. It&#8217;s called the Hall of FAME. I&#8217;ll grant that he was probably a real good shortstop, but &#8220;famous&#8221; he wasn&#8217;t, and he got in on pinstriped coat-tails.</p>
<p>Brandon Inge won a FAN vote because people like him and he busts his ass. Winning the vote IS the criterion. Arguing that it&#8217;s not legitimate is silly, because the standard you would like to apply to getting into the All-Star game is not, in fact, the actual standard.</p>
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		<title>By: scotsw</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fun Fact: The guy who shut the door on the Tigers last night, Moscoso, was a Tigers prospect traded to Texas for Gerald Laird. Oh, and it was the anniversary of Kenny Rogers&#039; perfect game -- which of course he pitched for Texas, not Detroit.

Rumors that the Rangers collectively raided the Tigers locker room post-game and rubbed large quantities of salt on the Detroiters&#039; wounds could not be confirmed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun Fact: The guy who shut the door on the Tigers last night, Moscoso, was a Tigers prospect traded to Texas for Gerald Laird. Oh, and it was the anniversary of Kenny Rogers&#8217; perfect game &#8212; which of course he pitched for Texas, not Detroit.</p>
<p>Rumors that the Rangers collectively raided the Tigers locker room post-game and rubbed large quantities of salt on the Detroiters&#8217; wounds could not be confirmed.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Det</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in Det</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweat it out in games like this?  No its called swearing up a storm because we are playing crappy and I personally do not think that the Twins or the ChiSox will play meager baseball like this for the next 65 games.  It is impossible.  We need help and right now I dont care WHO we give up.  I dont want to end up being the 89 tigers and missing out on the post season and then going in a 17 year drought of being even competitive and being a .500 baseball team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweat it out in games like this?  No its called swearing up a storm because we are playing crappy and I personally do not think that the Twins or the ChiSox will play meager baseball like this for the next 65 games.  It is impossible.  We need help and right now I dont care WHO we give up.  I dont want to end up being the 89 tigers and missing out on the post season and then going in a 17 year drought of being even competitive and being a .500 baseball team.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith (Mr. X)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith (Mr. X)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to sweat games like this as long as we&#039;re in 1st place and the teams beneath us have been hovering in obscurity all season long. 

I also won&#039;t ignore the fact that Texas is a very good team and they are playing bigger games than us right now because they&#039;re trying to catch LA, while trying to catch Boston in the wild card race.   I hate the Red Sox with a passion.  If losing to Texas helps keep Boston out of the playoffs, then this is a win for me even though we lost.   Losing here might even help the Tigers go to the World Series.  Only time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to sweat games like this as long as we&#8217;re in 1st place and the teams beneath us have been hovering in obscurity all season long. </p>
<p>I also won&#8217;t ignore the fact that Texas is a very good team and they are playing bigger games than us right now because they&#8217;re trying to catch LA, while trying to catch Boston in the wild card race.   I hate the Red Sox with a passion.  If losing to Texas helps keep Boston out of the playoffs, then this is a win for me even though we lost.   Losing here might even help the Tigers go to the World Series.  Only time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well stephen...too bad you&#039;re not a pitcher. your determination could help this team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well stephen&#8230;too bad you&#8217;re not a pitcher. your determination could help this team.</p>
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		<title>By: Anson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I missed this entire game and just looked at the box score noticing that someone named J. Grilli got the win. I immediately swore loudly, stopped reading and closed the page in utter disgust. I am so glad that I missed this game. The only way it could be worse is if &quot;Ham Sandwich&quot; and Neifi Perez accounted for all of the Rangers runs at which point I would stab myself in the face with a fork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I missed this entire game and just looked at the box score noticing that someone named J. Grilli got the win. I immediately swore loudly, stopped reading and closed the page in utter disgust. I am so glad that I missed this game. The only way it could be worse is if &#8220;Ham Sandwich&#8221; and Neifi Perez accounted for all of the Rangers runs at which point I would stab myself in the face with a fork.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Det</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in Det</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im just not sure what is DD waiting for?  Are we really going to just ride this out to the end.  I mean seriously, you want to lose fans this is a GREAT way to doing this DD.  And if we dont make a move, we REALLY should offload some of our older guys.  (ie, Polanco, Maggs, Laird, Everett, Rodney)  And release some others (Robertson, Willis, Maggs) I mean right now we are a disgraceful 1st place team.  Ive never seen a 1st place team be in first place and play like this for the entire season, its pathetic.  

DD either make a move or dump guys.  We as fans, cannot handle trying to limp into a post season run on tiny outbursts every 10 games.  We need a bat badly!!!  DD make your move before the 31st please!!!!  To save us from completely melting in our own seats!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im just not sure what is DD waiting for?  Are we really going to just ride this out to the end.  I mean seriously, you want to lose fans this is a GREAT way to doing this DD.  And if we dont make a move, we REALLY should offload some of our older guys.  (ie, Polanco, Maggs, Laird, Everett, Rodney)  And release some others (Robertson, Willis, Maggs) I mean right now we are a disgraceful 1st place team.  Ive never seen a 1st place team be in first place and play like this for the entire season, its pathetic.  </p>
<p>DD either make a move or dump guys.  We as fans, cannot handle trying to limp into a post season run on tiny outbursts every 10 games.  We need a bat badly!!!  DD make your move before the 31st please!!!!  To save us from completely melting in our own seats!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least the Chisox lost again.  So we still have our slim two-game lead in what is arguably the worst division in baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least the Chisox lost again.  So we still have our slim two-game lead in what is arguably the worst division in baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: Jud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was that the 30th or 35th or 40th time the tigers scored in only 1 inning..? They are tough to watch. I have been going mlb split screen lately the other game is better  every road game now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was that the 30th or 35th or 40th time the tigers scored in only 1 inning..? They are tough to watch. I have been going mlb split screen lately the other game is better  every road game now</p>
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		<title>By: stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two lists of worst all-stars of all time. Inge wouldn&#039;t make the top five, but he&#039;d be in the top ten..
http://baseball.about.com/od/allstargam1/tp/worstallstars.htm
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1910210_1910207,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two lists of worst all-stars of all time. Inge wouldn&#8217;t make the top five, but he&#8217;d be in the top ten..<br />
<a href="http://baseball.about.com/od/allstargam1/tp/worstallstars.htm" rel="nofollow">http://baseball.about.com/od/a.....lstars.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1910210_1910207,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/speci.....07,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminded me of the way they ended the &#039;08 season. Lifeless and listless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminded me of the way they ended the &#8217;08 season. Lifeless and listless.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know who really can&#039;t hit right handers, a basic concept  for a major leaguer?
Brandon Inge. He&#039;s 297 for 1312 since 2006. That works out to .226. I think that&#039;s a sample size that should satisfy even dear old Coleman.

I will not rest until Inge&#039;s all-star appearance is struck from the record book  like Nationalist China was removed from the UN&#039;s voting rolls in 1973.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know who really can&#8217;t hit right handers, a basic concept  for a major leaguer?<br />
Brandon Inge. He&#8217;s 297 for 1312 since 2006. That works out to .226. I think that&#8217;s a sample size that should satisfy even dear old Coleman.</p>
<p>I will not rest until Inge&#8217;s all-star appearance is struck from the record book  like Nationalist China was removed from the UN&#8217;s voting rolls in 1973.</p>
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