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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119732</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One tidbit about Carlos Pena--since I&#039;m not sure if this has been mentioned or not--but even though we got Pena along with Bonderman from the A&#039;s in the Weaver deal (actually at the time I think it was more that we got Bonderman along with Pena), Pena was not a product of the A&#039;s system. 

They had obtained him via trade just months before...when they got Carlos Pena from the Rangers for Gerald Laird</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One tidbit about Carlos Pena&#8211;since I&#8217;m not sure if this has been mentioned or not&#8211;but even though we got Pena along with Bonderman from the A&#8217;s in the Weaver deal (actually at the time I think it was more that we got Bonderman along with Pena), Pena was not a product of the A&#8217;s system. </p>
<p>They had obtained him via trade just months before&#8230;when they got Carlos Pena from the Rangers for Gerald Laird</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119685</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, now that you put it that way...he&#039;s not an AMC Pacer is he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, now that you put it that way&#8230;he&#8217;s not an AMC Pacer is he?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119680</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think of him more like a Crown Victoria.  Has something to do with &#039;Crown&#039; relating to his rather bulbous head, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of him more like a Crown Victoria.  Has something to do with &#8216;Crown&#8217; relating to his rather bulbous head, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119679</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some odd reason I can actually imagine him with the nickname &quot;skylark.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some odd reason I can actually imagine him with the nickname &#8220;skylark.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119678</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheff would be sent off to the scrap heap, to be salvaged for what few usable parts are left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheff would be sent off to the scrap heap, to be salvaged for what few usable parts are left.</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119676</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, although I know a few bits of Papiamentu myself...because--why not?  Loke no ta konosi no por ta keri, as they say...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, although I know a few bits of Papiamentu myself&#8230;because&#8211;why not?  Loke no ta konosi no por ta keri, as they say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119675</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Buick,

Not flashy, ignored by most, but dependable as hell!

-Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Buick,</p>
<p>Not flashy, ignored by most, but dependable as hell!</p>
<p>-Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119596</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, I was just looking for an excuse to use &#039;Papiamentu&#039; in conversation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, I was just looking for an excuse to use &#8216;Papiamentu&#8217; in conversation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joel in Seattle</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119595</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel in Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he was referring to the Braves organization...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he was referring to the Braves organization&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119592</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!  I call shenanigans, as Jurrjens is a Curacao native.  I don&#039;t think the Tigers have anyone who speaks Dutch or Papiamentu on the roster...if only they&#039;d have signed Andruw Jones, JJ would still be here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  I call shenanigans, as Jurrjens is a Curacao native.  I don&#8217;t think the Tigers have anyone who speaks Dutch or Papiamentu on the roster&#8230;if only they&#8217;d have signed Andruw Jones, JJ would still be here!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. X</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119590</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I&#039;m really bored this morning.  Really looking forward to this Boston Detroit series.
On the topic of Sheff, I&#039;ll looked up his performance vs team performance. 
Sheff has the ability to carry a team, but he also seems to brings much of  the  team down with him when he&#039;s doing bad.  

In April 2009,  the Mets went 10 -12 and Sheff hit .167
In May 2009, the Mets went 19-9 and Sheff hit .348 

Now to the Tigers when Sheff was around.
In April 2008, the Tigers went 13-15 and Sheff hit .186
In May 2008, the Tigers went 10-17 and Sheff hit .246
In June 2008, the Tigers went 19-8 and Sheff hit .286 (only 28 Ab&#039;s)
In July 2008, the Tigers went 13-13 and Sheff hit .235
In August 2008, the Tigers went 11-17 and Sheff hit .211
In September 2008, the Tigers went 8-18 and Sheff hit .231

In April 2007, the Tigers went 14-11 and Sheff hit .200
In May 2007, the Tigers went 16-12 and Sheff hit .321
In June 2007, the Tigers went 16-10 and Sheff hit .337
In July 2007, the Tigers went 15-12 and Sheff hit .301
In August 2007, the Tigers went 11-18 and Sheff hit .185
In September 2007, the Tigers went 16-11 and Sheff hit .172</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I&#8217;m really bored this morning.  Really looking forward to this Boston Detroit series.<br />
On the topic of Sheff, I&#8217;ll looked up his performance vs team performance.<br />
Sheff has the ability to carry a team, but he also seems to brings much of  the  team down with him when he&#8217;s doing bad.  </p>
<p>In April 2009,  the Mets went 10 -12 and Sheff hit .167<br />
In May 2009, the Mets went 19-9 and Sheff hit .348 </p>
<p>Now to the Tigers when Sheff was around.<br />
In April 2008, the Tigers went 13-15 and Sheff hit .186<br />
In May 2008, the Tigers went 10-17 and Sheff hit .246<br />
In June 2008, the Tigers went 19-8 and Sheff hit .286 (only 28 Ab&#8217;s)<br />
In July 2008, the Tigers went 13-13 and Sheff hit .235<br />
In August 2008, the Tigers went 11-17 and Sheff hit .211<br />
In September 2008, the Tigers went 8-18 and Sheff hit .231</p>
<p>In April 2007, the Tigers went 14-11 and Sheff hit .200<br />
In May 2007, the Tigers went 16-12 and Sheff hit .321<br />
In June 2007, the Tigers went 16-10 and Sheff hit .337<br />
In July 2007, the Tigers went 15-12 and Sheff hit .301<br />
In August 2007, the Tigers went 11-18 and Sheff hit .185<br />
In September 2007, the Tigers went 16-11 and Sheff hit .172</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. X</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119588</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think DD has done a great job overall at keeping the top prospects here in Detroit.  Most of the ones we traded haven&#039;t panned out at all (except Jurrjens) , but the ones we&#039;ve held on to have been excellent so far.

BA&#039;s Top Prospects 2005
1. Curtis Granderson, of
2. Kyle Sleeth, rhp
3. Justin Verlander, rhp
4. Joel Zumaya, rhp
5. Humberto Sanchez, rhp
6. Tony Giarratano, ss
7. Jeff Frazier, of
8. Ryan Raburn, 2b
9. Eric Beattie, rhp
10. Eulogio de la Cruz, rhp 

2006-
1. Justin Verlander, rhp
2. Joel Zumaya, rhp
3. Cameron Maybin, of
4. Brent Clevlen, of
5. Wilkin Ramirez, 3b
6. Humberto Sanchez, rhp
7. Jordan Tata, rhp
8. Tony Giarratano, ss
9. Jeff Larish, 1b
10. Kevin Whelan, rhp

2007-
1.	Cameron Maybin, of
2.	Andrew Miller, lhp
3.	Brent Clevlen, of
4.	Jair Jurrjens, rhp
5.	Jordan Tata, rhp
6.	Eulogio de la Cruz, rhp
7.	Gorkys Hernandez, of
8.	Dallas Trahern, rhp
9.	Jeff Larish, 1b
10.	Scott Sizemore, ss/2b

2008-
1.  	Rick Porcello, rhp
2. 	Cale Iorg, ss
3. 	Scott Sizemore, 2b
4. 	Michael Hollimon, 2b/ss
5. 	Yorman Bazardo, rhp
6. 	Jeff Larish, 1b
7. 	Matt Joyce, of
8. 	Danny Worth, ss
9. 	Francisco Cruceta, rhp
10. 	Brandon Hamilton, rhp

2009-
1. Rick Porcello, rhp
2. Ryan Perry, rhp
3. Cale Iorg, ss
4. Casey Crosby, lhp
5. Jeff Larish, 1b/3b
6. Wilkin Ramirez, of
7. Scott Sizemore, 2b
8. Cody Satterwhite, rhp
9. Dusty Ryan, c
10. Guillermo Moscoso, rhp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think DD has done a great job overall at keeping the top prospects here in Detroit.  Most of the ones we traded haven&#8217;t panned out at all (except Jurrjens) , but the ones we&#8217;ve held on to have been excellent so far.</p>
<p>BA&#8217;s Top Prospects 2005<br />
1. Curtis Granderson, of<br />
2. Kyle Sleeth, rhp<br />
3. Justin Verlander, rhp<br />
4. Joel Zumaya, rhp<br />
5. Humberto Sanchez, rhp<br />
6. Tony Giarratano, ss<br />
7. Jeff Frazier, of<br />
8. Ryan Raburn, 2b<br />
9. Eric Beattie, rhp<br />
10. Eulogio de la Cruz, rhp </p>
<p>2006-<br />
1. Justin Verlander, rhp<br />
2. Joel Zumaya, rhp<br />
3. Cameron Maybin, of<br />
4. Brent Clevlen, of<br />
5. Wilkin Ramirez, 3b<br />
6. Humberto Sanchez, rhp<br />
7. Jordan Tata, rhp<br />
8. Tony Giarratano, ss<br />
9. Jeff Larish, 1b<br />
10. Kevin Whelan, rhp</p>
<p>2007-<br />
1.	Cameron Maybin, of<br />
2.	Andrew Miller, lhp<br />
3.	Brent Clevlen, of<br />
4.	Jair Jurrjens, rhp<br />
5.	Jordan Tata, rhp<br />
6.	Eulogio de la Cruz, rhp<br />
7.	Gorkys Hernandez, of<br />
8.	Dallas Trahern, rhp<br />
9.	Jeff Larish, 1b<br />
10.	Scott Sizemore, ss/2b</p>
<p>2008-<br />
1.  	Rick Porcello, rhp<br />
2. 	Cale Iorg, ss<br />
3. 	Scott Sizemore, 2b<br />
4. 	Michael Hollimon, 2b/ss<br />
5. 	Yorman Bazardo, rhp<br />
6. 	Jeff Larish, 1b<br />
7. 	Matt Joyce, of<br />
8. 	Danny Worth, ss<br />
9. 	Francisco Cruceta, rhp<br />
10. 	Brandon Hamilton, rhp</p>
<p>2009-<br />
1. Rick Porcello, rhp<br />
2. Ryan Perry, rhp<br />
3. Cale Iorg, ss<br />
4. Casey Crosby, lhp<br />
5. Jeff Larish, 1b/3b<br />
6. Wilkin Ramirez, of<br />
7. Scott Sizemore, 2b<br />
8. Cody Satterwhite, rhp<br />
9. Dusty Ryan, c<br />
10. Guillermo Moscoso, rhp</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/tigers-i-have-known/#comment-119587</link>
		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also not a given he would have done AS well on the Tigers at any rate, remembering that he would have been breaking into the rotation in the botched 2008 season--the pre-Knapp 2008 season.  In addition he himself has mentioned how nice it is being in an organization with so many Caribbean ties, and to be able to speak his native language now and then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also not a given he would have done AS well on the Tigers at any rate, remembering that he would have been breaking into the rotation in the botched 2008 season&#8211;the pre-Knapp 2008 season.  In addition he himself has mentioned how nice it is being in an organization with so many Caribbean ties, and to be able to speak his native language now and then.</p>
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		<title>By: Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re selling Pudge short--the Tigers have had more baserunners than Houston, so I assume more GIDP opportunities.  I think Pudge would have at least 9 here.

3 more GIDP for Pudge moves him into a tie with Rusty Staub and Brooks Robinson for 9th in career GIDP.

The top 10 active GIDP has a pleasantly familiar feel to it, including:

1 Pudge Rodriguez 294
3 Gary Sheffield 228
6 Edgar Renteria 214
10 Magglio Ordonez 205

As the youngest in the top 10 at 33, Ham-Sandwich Renteria has the only reasonable shot at reaching Pudge-like numbers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re selling Pudge short&#8211;the Tigers have had more baserunners than Houston, so I assume more GIDP opportunities.  I think Pudge would have at least 9 here.</p>
<p>3 more GIDP for Pudge moves him into a tie with Rusty Staub and Brooks Robinson for 9th in career GIDP.</p>
<p>The top 10 active GIDP has a pleasantly familiar feel to it, including:</p>
<p>1 Pudge Rodriguez 294<br />
3 Gary Sheffield 228<br />
6 Edgar Renteria 214<br />
10 Magglio Ordonez 205</p>
<p>As the youngest in the top 10 at 33, Ham-Sandwich Renteria has the only reasonable shot at reaching Pudge-like numbers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scotsw</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just thinking it was time to revisit the Sheff move... After all, Ilitch is paying him to play in New York.

Can&#039;t blame them for cutting him, but let&#039;s see where he is come the All-Star break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just thinking it was time to revisit the Sheff move&#8230; After all, Ilitch is paying him to play in New York.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t blame them for cutting him, but let&#8217;s see where he is come the All-Star break.</p>
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