Comments on: The Ordonez Kerfuffle http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:11:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Andre in Chi http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121864 Andre in Chi Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:24:01 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121864 Hope you're right Christy. The one thing that bothers me is that Maggs' age might be much more of a factor in this, i.e. Ozzie isn't that "old" for a goalie. It would be one thing if Ordonez was losing the power but keeping the average, but that's dipped too. Either way, hope the break works in his case too. Hope you’re right Christy. The one thing that bothers me is that Maggs’ age might be much more of a factor in this, i.e. Ozzie isn’t that “old” for a goalie. It would be one thing if Ordonez was losing the power but keeping the average, but that’s dipped too. Either way, hope the break works in his case too.

]]> By: Anson http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121862 Anson Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:45:09 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121862 Interesting perspective, we can only hope that Maggs has a similar reaction to Ozzie and get back on his normal all-star pace. Although I think the between their two positions and sports is a strong one. Anyway thanks for putting together the Wings site its really great. Interesting perspective, we can only hope that Maggs has a similar reaction to Ozzie and get back on his normal all-star pace. Although I think the between their two positions and sports is a strong one. Anyway thanks for putting together the Wings site its really great.

]]> By: Christy Hammond http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121856 Christy Hammond Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:49:15 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121856 I know I'm the Red Wings expert and would never claim to be an expert when it comes to the Tigers. That being said, I feel like Leyland has taken a page of Wings' GM Ken Holland's playbook. This past season, Holland gave goaltender Chris Osgood a ten-day mental break during the regular season (aka benched him) because Ozzie was struggling mightily in net. He played better upon his return and went on to be one of the leading Conn Smythe candidates in the Stanley Cup Finals. I'm not saying Ordonez will have the same response to this benching, but I just found the similarities interesting since it seems that both Ozzie and Ordonez are team guys and don't cause any problems in the locker room. I know I’m the Red Wings expert and would never claim to be an expert when it comes to the Tigers. That being said, I feel like Leyland has taken a page of Wings’ GM Ken Holland’s playbook.

This past season, Holland gave goaltender Chris Osgood a ten-day mental break during the regular season (aka benched him) because Ozzie was struggling mightily in net. He played better upon his return and went on to be one of the leading Conn Smythe candidates in the Stanley Cup Finals.

I’m not saying Ordonez will have the same response to this benching, but I just found the similarities interesting since it seems that both Ozzie and Ordonez are team guys and don’t cause any problems in the locker room.

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121812 billfer Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:13:30 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121812 It needs to be used more. It needs to be used more.

]]> By: Chris in Dallas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121811 Chris in Dallas Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:53:50 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121811 Nice use of 'kerfuffle', billfer. Nice use of ‘kerfuffle’, billfer.

]]> By: Bunt Singes: Perry optioned, horses divided can stand | Mack Avenue Tigers http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121810 Bunt Singes: Perry optioned, horses divided can stand | Mack Avenue Tigers Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:38:04 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121810 [...] had a pretty good look at it [...] [...] had a pretty good look at it [...]

]]> By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121768 Kathy Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:18:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121768 This isn't for sure but Billfer or someone else can give you the facts. I believe if they trade him they can make different deals such as paying a portion of his salary (this year's) if that is what the other team is asking for. Or they could do a straight up trade for several although if Maggs doesn't start to get his power back, no one will want him. I think the other team would be responsible for next year's contract although maybe they can renegotiate. Boras wouldn't like that. So, how close am I with the facts. Way off or kinda close? Somebody? Oh, the other thing. I don't think Maggs age is what's holding him down. Maybe a little, but it's something else. Sheff is 40 and he's doing real good for the Mets. I love Maggs and sure hope he can start driving the ball. This isn’t for sure but Billfer or someone else can give you the facts. I believe if they trade him they can make different deals such as paying a portion of his salary (this year’s) if that is what the other team is asking for. Or they could do a straight up trade for several although if Maggs doesn’t start to get his power back, no one will want him. I think the other team would be responsible for next year’s contract although maybe they can renegotiate. Boras wouldn’t like that. So, how close am I with the facts. Way off or kinda close? Somebody?

Oh, the other thing. I don’t think Maggs age is what’s holding him down. Maybe a little, but it’s something else. Sheff is 40 and he’s doing real good for the Mets. I love Maggs and sure hope he can start driving the ball.

]]> By: Walter55 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121767 Walter55 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:19:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121767 He will get another chance to produce but if he continues to struggle they will either bench him again or release him. Does anyone know if we trade him before he reaches either hi PAs or Games started and he reaches those for another team are they responsible for his salary next year or if he is traded before they are reached does that void out the option automatically. He will get another chance to produce but if he continues to struggle they will either bench him again or release him. Does anyone know if we trade him before he reaches either hi PAs or Games started and he reaches those for another team are they responsible for his salary next year or if he is traded before they are reached does that void out the option automatically.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121766 David Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:54:49 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/the-ordonez-kerfuffle/#comment-121766 I agree. Like you said, Boras is just doing his job and so is DD/Leyland and co. On one hand, it is a lot of money for someone his age, but part of me hopes he comes back strong and goes on a complete tear. IF he's on, he can hit to all fields and with power, those guys don't fall off trees. That backup of third by Figaro was very nice to see. Inge, as well as Cabby, also made several fantastic plays with the glove. And Anderson was quite nice on those infield dodges. One other thing of note - there were tons, literally TONS, of Brewers fans there. The few I sat by were very knowledgeable and friendly. Just wanted to point that out. :) I agree.

Like you said, Boras is just doing his job and so is DD/Leyland and co. On one hand, it is a lot of money for someone his age, but part of me hopes he comes back strong and goes on a complete tear. IF he’s on, he can hit to all fields and with power, those guys don’t fall off trees.

That backup of third by Figaro was very nice to see. Inge, as well as Cabby, also made several fantastic plays with the glove. And Anderson was quite nice on those infield dodges.

One other thing of note – there were tons, literally TONS, of Brewers fans there. The few I sat by were very knowledgeable and friendly. Just wanted to point that out. :)

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