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by billfer on June 18, 2009 · 83 comments

in 2009 Season,Game Post

PREGAME: Four game losing streaks warrant backwards game threads. The Tigers top 2 in the rotation couldn’t coax out a win, so it is now up to the kid to stop the losing streak.

Rick Porcello was on the mound for the Tigers last start, and hopefully he’ll be on the mound for their next one as well. He does get the benefit of not facing Albert Pujols tonight.

Joel Pineiro has some pressure himself. Opposing pitchers have kept the Tigers under 4 runs for 7 straight games. I’m actually stunned that Pineiro is only 30. He’s having a solid season with only 11 walks and 2 homers allowed in 76.2 innings.

Detroit vs. St. Louis – June 18, 2009 | MLB.com: Gameday

POSTGAME: It’s a win. Sigh.

The Tigers finally had a big inning, and they got it early in the game and took some of the pressure off of everyone. Grandy and Polly each had 2 hits and the top of the lineup produced. Inge and Laird had big hits. Thames with a foul-poul thump. Sigh. Runs. Whee!

Porcello was good again. He gave up a number of hits, but got a ton of ground balls as well. He also slithered out what could have been a bad inning after a Gerald Laird error (Laird’s throw wasn’t good, but Inge seemed like he could have reached it).

Bobby Seay was very good. Brandon Lyon was fine. Fernando Rodney was nearly a train wreck as he was throwing the ball all over the place. Fortunately Rick Ankiel decided to swing to end the game with a double play.

 
 

{ 83 comments }

jud June 18, 2009 at 8:30 pm

sregit og

jud June 18, 2009 at 8:31 pm

4 you kidding me!

David June 18, 2009 at 8:32 pm

WOW, came out hard tonight

Grandy shoots a hard line shot up the middle – BEAUTIFUL (my favorite spot to hit personally and when watching by far)
Poly gets jammed inside and pulls one fair inside the third base bag
Cabrera hits one that gets booted – I’ll take it!
Thames advances the runners and gets them in…fine for out #1
Raburn K’s … ouch, 2 out
Inge goes the other way to RC for a single to drive in Cabby and put us up 3-0!~
Laird hits one into the left field corner for a double to score Charles 4-0
Everett grounds out with Ricky Alfred on deck 3 out.

Fan freeking tastic, last night they were oh so close… TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT!

ouchudied June 18, 2009 at 8:33 pm

That has got to be a season high for first inning runs, or damn close to it.

jud June 18, 2009 at 8:39 pm

definately at least since first of May

Coleman June 18, 2009 at 8:33 pm

It looks like Opposite Day is a good day…on the down side though, I suppose, is with all these runs we’re kind of wasting the big bat in the 9-spot (Porcello)…

jud June 18, 2009 at 8:50 pm

Can we put a rope on Cabrera and keep him somewhere near first base that’s the second time in a week hes gone after a routine ground ball to Polanco and messed it up

Coleman June 18, 2009 at 8:55 pm

This is not developing in the most favorable of fashions…
That was quite an AB by Rasmus…at this rate Porcello isn’t going to last long enough to get a 2nd AB…

jud June 18, 2009 at 8:55 pm

lets not sit on this 4 it is ok to score more isn’t it?

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 9:04 pm

Ryan Raburn – your prototypical No. 5 hitter. Although, to be fair, he does have more HRs than “GIDP” (Maggs).

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 9:10 pm

This is definitely shaping up to be a short outing for Porcello. It will be interesting to see which 5 relief pitchers Leyland uses to finish the game – does Miner come in or does our Master Strategist cunningly (angling towards that contract extension) hold him back for a possible start tomorrow.

jud June 18, 2009 at 9:16 pm

have they made any roster moves today ???

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 9:23 pm

Figaro up from Erie to replace Willis who goes to the DL. Ordonez to the bench, although maybe that would be better called a non-roster move (roster non-move?).

jud June 18, 2009 at 9:23 pm

thanks

billfer June 18, 2009 at 9:44 pm

Scroll down the page buddy! :)

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 9:17 pm

10 in a row put down by Piniero now. He makes it look so easy. How does he do it.

jud June 18, 2009 at 9:23 pm

Porcello doesn’t look too bad either..so far so good

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 9:31 pm

Yeah, he’s recovered from that scary 2nd inning. Throwing a lot of pitches though. Hope he can go six. Where would we be without this guy?

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 9:28 pm

13 in a row by Piniero. Actually, if Gameday can be believed, it looks like he is really mixing his pitches/location extremely well, keeping the Tigers off-balance offense even more off balance.

jud June 18, 2009 at 9:28 pm

offense is back to earth…not only is he mixing the Tigers are in their throw the bat a a outside ball mode to help him

Kevin in Dallas June 18, 2009 at 9:36 pm

Goodness PP. Is he the worst fielder on the team, other than Thames? Just may be…

billfer June 18, 2009 at 9:44 pm

Really? He’s the 5th best fielder in baseball by UZR this year.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=0&season=2009&month=0

Kevin in Dallas June 19, 2009 at 2:56 am

That’s a convenient stat billfer…he’s also 2nd to last at getting to ballsin the AL this year: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding?groupId=7&season=2009&seasonType=2&split=80&sortColumn=zoneRating

Based on what you’ve seen, do you feel that he’s a better fielder than anyone else in the infield? I’m worried that his GG days are long gone.

billfer June 19, 2009 at 7:53 am

Kevin – I’ll honestly say I odn’t know what is going on with the ESPN ZR stat. That stat is normally expressed as a percentage (as it says in the glossary of the page) and the values aren’t typically 4-6 anything. With the hardball tiems revised zone rating Polanco is third in the AL for 2nd basemen. http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=fielding&linesToDisplay=50&orderBy=zone_rating&direction=DESC&qual_filter=1&season_filter=2009&league_filter=1&pos_filter=4&Submit=Submit

+/- data has Polanco tied for 6th best at 2nd in MLB. Most of the advanced metrics have him as pretty good to very good, and visually I’ve had no problems with him.

I don’t know that he’s best in the infield (they actually have a very good defensive infield), but his defense isn’t a problem.

RPS June 19, 2009 at 9:19 am

If you look at the facts that Everett has the AL’s best ZR on that chart, and that the ZRs on this page have a strong inverse correlation to RFs, I think the answer is that Polanco does not operate in his “zone”. Everett’s range lets Polanco work more to the right when desired, giving him a low in-zone number, but a high range factor. This seems to be less a measure of defensive performance, and more a measure of how consistently positioned he is from AB to AB.

Except for these wonky stats, Polanco tends to rate as at least above average, if not very good. He’s losing a step, but is still a high quality 2B.

jud June 18, 2009 at 9:36 pm

is this Minnesota or St Louis ….Minn dink and dunk all the way

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 9:46 pm

Dink and dunk as of Yesterday:
HR/R/SLG

MN 70/325/.425
STL 68/294/.416
DET 69/309/.409

Ken in Las Vegas June 18, 2009 at 9:41 pm

Porcello still seems to have good movement, guys are looking foolish and he’s getting ground balls, but those Cardinals are getting some scrappy hits.

Can I please see somebody yoke one deep please. Preferably with a man or two on base for once?

jud June 18, 2009 at 9:41 pm

first two singles could have been caught…two DP’s neither one made….one real single …..4-3 game

Coleman June 18, 2009 at 9:41 pm

If they want to keep hiiting them to Inge I think that’s just fine; I wish they had started that a batter or two sooner…

Ken in Las Vegas June 18, 2009 at 9:44 pm

Batters usually hit .301 against this guy?

jud June 18, 2009 at 9:44 pm

Piniero wants to know if we can start this game in the top of the second because he has never thrown a perfect game before

Coleman June 18, 2009 at 9:47 pm

Ah, nothing like a nice brisk 9-pitch inning to keep things moving along; gotta save some time for the 3 LaRussa pitching changes…

Ken in Las Vegas June 18, 2009 at 9:52 pm

I need a feel good moment before my girlfriend breaks up with me. “Why have you been in such a bad mood lately?” I couldn’t put my finger on it until now.

jud June 18, 2009 at 9:52 pm

atta boy Bobby!

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 9:53 pm

Ah, the old double-switch. And more ABs for Anderson. Maybe he has a clause in his contract that states if he gets all of Maggs ABs, Ordonez vesting option kicks in to Leyland.

Coleman June 18, 2009 at 10:04 pm

Inge is batting a quiet .455 so far this series…in case anybody is tracking his 7-day stats…

jud June 18, 2009 at 10:06 pm

good to see something positive in anyones stats for a change

ouchudied June 18, 2009 at 10:07 pm

Did you know the Tigers are on a four game losing streak? FOUR. LOSSES. IN. A. ROW.

David June 19, 2009 at 1:38 pm

Thanks for reminding me how to count, it is much appreciated.

David June 18, 2009 at 10:18 pm

:)

Coleman June 18, 2009 at 10:13 pm

Um Seay, you got PUJOLS out, I think it’s OK to throw a few strikes to these other guys..

jud June 18, 2009 at 10:17 pm

I don’t even want to think about who what where when of pitching the 8th and 9th

Ken in Las Vegas June 18, 2009 at 10:18 pm

We need to bite before we get bit. Bitten. Bited. Lose.

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 10:23 pm

LaRussa’s as bad as Leyland. Piniero had thrown 83 pitches, retired 19 of the last 20.

billfer June 18, 2009 at 10:26 pm

He was also carried off the field by his teammates because of his leg cramps.

ouchudied June 18, 2009 at 10:41 pm

I’d have to agree with you billfer and say that spelled the end of his night. Good thing too, he was lights out before he started cramping up.

scotsw June 19, 2009 at 9:06 am

Yeah that was really, really strange. Don’t they have Gatorade in the Cards dugout?

jud June 18, 2009 at 10:24 pm

does that count ??????

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 10:24 pm

Thank you Polly. Thank you Tony.

Coleman June 18, 2009 at 10:26 pm

That may be; but also, hey it’s time to do some Managing…

jud June 18, 2009 at 10:26 pm

thats two of those leg shots for Cabby he can’t buy an up the middle single

jud June 18, 2009 at 10:27 pm

Country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 10:30 pm

Thank you Marcus. Thanky you Tony.

Coleman June 18, 2009 at 10:32 pm

It seems to be pretty hot there (and the leg cramps); has anyone heard what the temp is on the field?

jud June 18, 2009 at 10:32 pm

let the real game begin

charlie June 18, 2009 at 10:34 pm

87 degrees

Ken in Las Vegas June 18, 2009 at 10:34 pm

Who’s available?

ouchudied June 18, 2009 at 10:44 pm

I’ve never seen a night where someone can be so close to being 3-4, yet they end up going 0-4.

jud June 18, 2009 at 10:48 pm

ok Seay did his job
Lyon did his job
…….next

jud June 18, 2009 at 11:02 pm

if you hit the guy in the on deck circle with a pitch does he get to go to first?

Jeff June 18, 2009 at 11:05 pm

Get Rodney out of there. I don’t care if he stays in and gets a DP or something, you can’t take this sort of chance.

EDIT: I’d like to say I jinxed him in a good way. But I stand by my comment above.

jud June 18, 2009 at 11:06 pm

get HIM OTTA THERE…put in INGE

ouchudied June 18, 2009 at 11:07 pm

This could get ugly. And fast.

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 11:07 pm

Wherever they send Willis, I want Rodney to go along.

ouchudied June 18, 2009 at 11:07 pm

Thank god.

MCM June 18, 2009 at 11:08 pm

Rodney Rocks!

not.

TM June 18, 2009 at 11:08 pm

Whew. Nice job with the backwards post, Bilfer.

jud June 18, 2009 at 11:09 pm

Rodney this was still BS…….total luck…period

great win none the less great hitting in the 8th put this one away ;;;lets go home

Kevin in Dallas June 18, 2009 at 11:10 pm

Rodney’s job is up for grabs. I’m certain of it.

billfer June 18, 2009 at 11:14 pm

Who are you giving it to at this point? Zumaya’s been worse than Rodney. Lyon? Perry?

Kevin in Dallas June 18, 2009 at 11:42 pm

Committee. Go with whoever is rested. I really think that with putting Willis on the DL, benching Maggs, and now Zumaya and Rodney’s control problems – JL is gonna continue to send a message. Or at least I hope. I saw smoke coming out of his ears.

jud June 19, 2009 at 3:14 am

I would give the job to Lyon for only one reason. I would rather go the Todd Jones route than to walk batter after batter after batter like Zoom and Crooked Hat. I’ll take my chances with Lyon for now. At least he gives your defense a chance to make plays behind him.

Vince in MN June 19, 2009 at 8:31 am

True, Lyon has been very good lately, but he is prone to giving up the long ball ( 5 in 33 IP). The fact is the bullpen just isn’t very good and it is a crap shoot whether they will get the job done or not. None of them have a particularly good BB/IP ratio. And what is with that anyway, I thought Knapp had that under control (no pun intended). The only guys that consistently throw strikes are Verlander, Jackson and Porcello.

jud June 18, 2009 at 11:12 pm

is winning a game always going to be this hard?

billfer June 18, 2009 at 11:15 pm

No. It just feels that way. The backward post should have it all taken care of.

jud June 18, 2009 at 11:23 pm

Billfer you did…. ! DOOG

Vince in MN June 18, 2009 at 11:12 pm

Rodney. Cramps. In the head.

Brenden June 18, 2009 at 11:54 pm

Watching Rodney gave me cramps in my head…oiy…

Coleman June 18, 2009 at 11:15 pm

Ah, very interesting, says my friend Dr Fraud, how the subconscious behaves…perhaps Mr Ankiel could not bear to stand there and take pitches for some reason, very interesting (puff puff)….

billfer June 18, 2009 at 11:16 pm

Well played

Coleman June 19, 2009 at 11:47 am

Why thank you sir…was perhaps even better played than I knew–posting from my iPhone I hit the submit button, and while I was waiting for the page to re-load the phone shut-down, I’m somewhat surprised my post beat the power-down…(and suddenly I have the bizarre concept of a James Lipton-Jim Leyland interview in my head…)

Jerry the Tiger Fan June 19, 2009 at 10:49 am

That was a huge win last night for the Tigers. Whew. I ddon’t even want to think about what could have been: coming home with a 5-game losing streak and a hot Milwaukee team waiting for us after a day off (for them) with BattleStar Galarraga on the bump (and Minny only one game back!).

Fortunately we are still up two games and perhaps some Comerica mojo will help get things moving again (although I must admit that we don’t seem to have any tangible home field advantage at the CoPa). It will be interseting to watch Battlestar tonight to see if he responds to what has to be at least internal pressure from himself (if not from management) to perform or lose his starting spot in the rotation. After that Figuro in his major league debut, followed by Verlander going agaisnt the team he no-hit at CoPa in 2007. If we can take two of those three I will take it and run.

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