Comments on: Ryan Perry optioned to Toledo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120279 David Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:14:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120279 Well his career ERA in the second half is nearly a run higher than it is in the first half. He has stunk - basically thrown BP. I realize they have dollars going to him. But sometimes you need to know when to "hold em and know when to fold em". He has been a horrid failed investment. I guess it is better to have Perry burn up AAA and mow down hitters and have Lyon serve up another loss or two while we see if Dtrain/Bondo can still pitch. ;) I do not see Lyon having a ERA under 4 for the rest of the year... do you? Well his career ERA in the second half is nearly a run higher than it is in the first half. He has stunk – basically thrown BP.

I realize they have dollars going to him. But sometimes you need to know when to “hold em and know when to fold em”.

He has been a horrid failed investment.

I guess it is better to have Perry burn up AAA and mow down hitters and have Lyon serve up another loss or two while we see if Dtrain/Bondo can still pitch.

;)

I do not see Lyon having a ERA under 4 for the rest of the year… do you?

]]> By: Mr. X http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120277 Mr. X Tue, 09 Jun 2009 04:49:03 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120277 Because Lyon has a track record of being a very good control pitcher and he is under contract with us. He's getting paid $4.25 Million this season. Last year, at the all-star break he had a 2.48 ERA, 19 saves, 7 walks, 28 k's in 37 IP, and only gave up 35 hits. Some people, like myself, believe that the talent is still there. If our pitching coach is any good, then Lyon will be fixed, and he will be great in the 2nd half. Because Lyon has a track record of being a very good control pitcher and he is under contract with us. He’s getting paid $4.25 Million this season.
Last year, at the all-star break he had a 2.48 ERA, 19 saves, 7 walks, 28 k’s in 37 IP, and only gave up 35 hits.
Some people, like myself, believe that the talent is still there. If our pitching coach is any good, then Lyon will be fixed, and he will be great in the 2nd half.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120275 David Tue, 09 Jun 2009 04:10:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120275 Why not drop Lyon? Why not drop Lyon?

]]> By: Mr. X http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120273 Mr. X Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:35:50 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120273 It had less to do with with Perry, than our roster being full. Perry was the odd man out only because we really can't afford to make any permanent roster moves. It would dumb to drop a player at this point. Considering how last season went, this is a great problem to have. Our greatest strength is our depth. It had less to do with with Perry, than our roster being full. Perry was the odd man out only because we really can’t afford to make any permanent roster moves. It would dumb to drop a player at this point. Considering how last season went, this is a great problem to have. Our greatest strength is our depth.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120272 David Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:07:34 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120272 Who cares about walks if they don't score? Plus if he is giving up several walks nobody is hitting him worth a darn. Walks are wayyyyy overrated Who cares about walks if they don’t score?

Plus if he is giving up several walks nobody is hitting him worth a darn.

Walks are wayyyyy overrated

]]> By: jb61973 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120211 jb61973 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:32:43 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120211 I wish Firejoemorgan.com was still around. They would be going nuts about that. I wish Firejoemorgan.com was still around. They would be going nuts about that.

]]> By: RPS http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120210 RPS Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:21:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120210 I'm gonna go with the 1.52 WHIP resulting from 19 BB in 23 innings. Dude can be awesome, but he's got one more hill to climb. I’m gonna go with the 1.52 WHIP resulting from 19 BB in 23 innings. Dude can be awesome, but he’s got one more hill to climb.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120209 David Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:16:47 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120209 How would baseball have looked upon Derek's career had it been spent in KC? Or Minny? Or here? To be fair he is one of my favorite current players and I idolized him and Arod as a boy. Still to say he is underrated is a farce. Barring death or deeply debilitating injury he is going to get to the magical 3000 hit club. Don't think he'll join Tyrus in the 4000 hit club though. ;) How would baseball have looked upon Derek’s career had it been spent in KC? Or Minny? Or here?

To be fair he is one of my favorite current players and I idolized him and Arod as a boy. Still to say he is underrated is a farce.

Barring death or deeply debilitating injury he is going to get to the magical 3000 hit club.

Don’t think he’ll join Tyrus in the 4000 hit club though. ;)

]]> By: RPS http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120208 RPS Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:10:01 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120208 Chris Berman and Orel Hershiser just told me that I, as a baseball fan, highly underrate Derek Jeter. I guess I only figured he was one of the Ten Greatest Carbon-based Life Forms Ever to Touch the Earth (With the Calming Stare that Could Stop The Earth 'Twere that a Clutch Thing to Do). I really need to look into making him top five. Is it time for Rod and Mario yet? Chris Berman and Orel Hershiser just told me that I, as a baseball fan, highly underrate Derek Jeter. I guess I only figured he was one of the Ten Greatest Carbon-based Life Forms Ever to Touch the Earth (With the Calming Stare that Could Stop The Earth ‘Twere that a Clutch Thing to Do). I really need to look into making him top five.

Is it time for Rod and Mario yet?

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120207 David Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:06:59 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120207 This is asinine. How you dump a guy in your pen who has the second best ERA to Zumaya, the highest number of k's/9, second in holds, and allowed the fewest hits/9. Even if it is only for 10 days it makes no sense other than he probably has the most options. Even so, I trust him more than I do anyone else in our pen. Stupid Stupid STUPID! This is asinine. How you dump a guy in your pen who has the second best ERA to Zumaya, the highest number of k’s/9, second in holds, and allowed the fewest hits/9.

Even if it is only for 10 days it makes no sense other than he probably has the most options.

Even so, I trust him more than I do anyone else in our pen.

Stupid Stupid STUPID!

]]> By: Jerry the Tiger Fan http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120199 Jerry the Tiger Fan Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:48:30 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120199 Probably because it was a one-run lead and his control is shaky at times. You've gotta earn that trust from your manager, and I don't think Perry has gained that trust from Leyland at this point. Probably because it was a one-run lead and his control is shaky at times. You’ve gotta earn that trust from your manager, and I don’t think Perry has gained that trust from Leyland at this point.

]]> By: Greg http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120194 Greg Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:39:54 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120194 Then why not make it a point to use Perry in Game 1, since there's no need to save him for Game 2? Then why not make it a point to use Perry in Game 1, since there’s no need to save him for Game 2?

]]> By: RPS http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/06/ryan-perry-optioned-to-toledo/#comment-120193 RPS Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:39:11 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=4402#comment-120193 Entirely sensible. I think it may be more than 10 days, however. Perry can be a huge weapon by the end of the year, but he has a couple things to fix. I think the most sensible thing to do at this point is to keep Perry in Toledo until the All-Star break while trying out a couple guys from Toledo (maybe Ni and French). If one of those guys can stick, either Lyon or Robertson goes away when Perry is ready. Entirely sensible. I think it may be more than 10 days, however. Perry can be a huge weapon by the end of the year, but he has a couple things to fix. I think the most sensible thing to do at this point is to keep Perry in Toledo until the All-Star break while trying out a couple guys from Toledo (maybe Ni and French). If one of those guys can stick, either Lyon or Robertson goes away when Perry is ready.

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