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If there were to be a managerial change, I’d imagine it would be someone DD is familiar with and who has managerial experience. He seemed to be high on Walbeck, so he’d probably be a top candidate. If the Tigers end up winning the division, I don’t foresee any sort of change, though.

As always its a pleasure conversing with you.

Since you view responsibility as subjective, I suppose I don’t have to go to the trouble of explaining that: my point was that Mr. X (given the forum and his relative clout) wasn’t being irresponsible. If you understand English, that means that you and I were less so. Baseball hardly needs Mr. X to cast a cloud of doubt over steroid use, it does that just fine on its own. Its also unlikely that anyone will be banned as a result of his insinuations.

“I for one understand that MLB is taking this seriously”

Sure it did, after the roid-freaks helped save baseball post-lockout, it got real tough.

“If you’re going to say it was rampant and nearly everybody did it, you need to show me positive test results for 90% of MLB before I’d believe you.”

Take a look at the nature of steroid use and testing, and couple it with the possibility that players may have been getting advanced notice of testing dates…it makes the above seem like a sub-optimal way of showing that the MLB is mostly steroid-free.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not really endorsing Mr. X’s comments. This has more to do with a person crusade to get you to tone it down. You don’t need to ratchet everything up to 11.

The steroids on the banned list are anabolic steroids which exist for the express purpose of building skeletal muscle.

Cortisone, a class of drugs called corticosteroids, exist to work with the immune system and to reduce allergic reactions and swelling. That is why people don’t make a big deal about cortisone. They are referring to anabolic steroids.

Assuming every single team had a steroid dealer in place is a pretty weighty claim.

1) I’m NOT AGAINST ROIDS

2) I AM against crucifying everybody and his brother without providing any sources.

The burden of proof is on the accusers. I for one understand that MLB is taking this seriously, whether I agree with it or not is another thing. If you’re going to say it was rampant and nearly everybody did it, you need to show me positive test results for 90% of MLB before I’d believe you.

What are the many irresponsible thing(s) I’ve said? Again please provide proof. Plus irresponsible is a subjective term.

Also when this Big Mac/Sosa barrage went on I was a minor – so you couldn’t “point the finger at me”.

Plus whether I’m a big fan of the long ball or not I know it is good for baseball revenue.

It is funny how you mention HR derby. Sadly like I have argued before, this game has been turned into a hr derby. For better or for worse it puts butts in the seats, and that is what was(and is) most important to any business, baseball being no different.

Heck, I’d inject myself with the swine flu for a 4 year / $20 million contract. I’m sure most people would do the same. I wouldn’t hide behind a union and keep it quiet though. I’d be man enough to come forward and rat everyone out who did it with me.

If the league and the players had only taken it as seriously as you are here, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

I don’t know if I agree with what Mr. X is saying, but its hardly more irresponsible than some of the things you or I have said. If the league had been serious about cracking down on steroids, we would never have had the home-run derbies that were the McGuire vs Sosa years. Its also telling that the home-run derby itself is a bigger spectacle than the All-Star Game. Collectively as fans, I think we all “deserve” some of the blame too…after all, we didn’t really question the explosion of home runs or freakish, almost comical bodies that started cropping up in many (if not all) the MLB clubhouses.

Innocent until proven guilty is a funny phrase in the era of perception = reality. It doesn’t help that a run down of recent MVPs is littered with offenders. Maybe Mr. X was over generalizing, but people post some strange things here without fact-checking all the time, it doesn’t mean we should freak out on them.

And I believe that many players were not taking banned supps. Even IF there was one guy in every locker room distributing the stuff, it does NOT mean that all the stars were doing it.

And the majority of the public can’t really say much, because they haven’t played on an MLB or MiLB team.

And if you don’t care, like you claim, why would you assume one way or the other? And why do you find it “sad” that there was a guy on every team distributing it, and yet you’d “do it too”?

This is a serious matter, not to be taken lightly, considering players can be banned from baseball for it.

In 2006. SD fired Bruce Bochy, then SF hired Bruce Bochy.

It’s not too far fetched. DD went after a NL rival before. When Leyland got fired in Pittsburgh in 1996, DD hired him to manage the Marlins.

I have nothing against those Cleveland players I named. It’s easy to figure out who did what if you just start at the top with the best players. More than likely they took something at one time or another. Do I really care if Tiger players like Polanco, Guillen, or Ordonez took PED’s? Not really. I just assume that they did. Inge probably took something too. They all do it to get the long term contracts. I’d do it too if I could afford it and it would make me rich.

If Leyland gets fired (and that won’t happen if they play at this winning%) or should I say – not renewed, I highly HIGHLY doubt they’d hire Wedge.

Their would be a much better chance of a former Dombro friend or heck even a Mudhen guy getting the call. Ie Parrish or Leon or Sager.

When in this day and age have you seen TWO managers in the same division get fired and one of them switch teams?

Its about as crazy as saying Cabby will be wearing Chief Wahoo on his sleeve next season. Ain’t gunna happen, ya heard it hur first.

This is absurd. Do you even read what you write?

1) Innocent until proven guilty – don’t start making accusations.
2) His power has gone down since 2006???? He only played one full year after that.
3) He is done? He has a 133 OPS+ for 2009.

As far as the Tigers taking banned substances again refer to #1. Who else is gone besides Pudge and Sheff? And how do you KNOW that Pudge did it?

I’m shocked YOU didn’t harp on Ordonez and his dip in performance as evidence that he has been using, considering he was named in Canseco’s book. Or that Guillen or Bonderman had been.

There are things called aging, getting injured and dips in performance when both occur, or even when they don’t. To blanket everybody under that cloud is downright foolish.

Minirant –

And personally I have nothing against people who juice or take HGH. If they are experts (or can pay for expert advise) to use what they are using – let them.

A cortisone shot is a steroid – nobody calls foul on that. Or for example – What about getting laser eye surgery? That isn’t performance enhancing? It sure as $ isn’t natural.

These people who spread propaganda hate against the stuff usually have no understanding of it at all. Many fear what they don’t understand.

Anyways, again don’t spew accusations that you aren’t sure about. In my eyes saying that everybody and his brother was using or even certain players were using without any sources or proof besides your own inclinations push your credibility into the toilet.