Game 2009.014: Tigers at Angels

by billfer on April 22, 2009 · 176 comments

in 2009 Season,Game Post

PREGAME: Tonight it will be lefty Joe Saunders taking on Justin Verlander. Verlander is coming off a remarkable start in Seattle where he was pretty much untouchable except for an awful 5th inning. Still, his velocity, command, and breaking ball were encouraging.

Saunders has only fanned 7 batters in 20.2 innings with 6 walks and 2 HBPs but he’s posting a nice 2.18 ERA because he’s only allowed 13 hits so far.

The Tigers will send out:

  1. Granderson, CF
  2. Polanco, 2B
  3. Ordonez, DH
  4. Cabrera, 1B
  5. Guillen, LF
  6. Laird, C
  7. Inge, 3B
  8. Raburn, RF
  9. Everett, SS

Game Time 10:05

Detroit vs. LA Angels – April 22, 2009 | MLB.com: Gameday

POSTGAME: This probably deserves a more thorough analysis, but I have to be at my day job in 5 hours. So this is what you get:

  • Verlander not so good. The Angels worked him like they did Galarraga the night before. Of course they had help in the form of Ryan Raburn who totally botched two plays (and minorly botched a third). Some of those runs should have been unearned but a disappointing Verlander outing regardless.
  • Rincon allowed a run, and on that run he didn’t do too bad. It was a chop infield single and a double on a nice pitch. But then a wild pitch and 2 walks later I had lost all sympathy.
  • The top of the order really got it going with the top 5 being on base 14 times
  • Angels have the most generous scorer ever. It’s kind of a joke really
  • Adam Everett had 3 “hits” and played some nice defense.
  • The big rally in the 7th was bizarre. Hits went exactly where they needed to go, including another en-Inge-matic hit where he dribbles it somewhere and it results in runs.
  • Rodney didn’t really struggle, but the 9th was way too interesting. An infield hit, a double play, a couple bloop singles, a well hit double a wild pitch and then it was over. Good night.
 
 

{ 176 comments }

Ryan P. April 22, 2009 at 9:31 pm

Anyone have a link to what the Mud Hens and Zumaya did/are doing tonight?

Tbone April 22, 2009 at 9:32 pm

JL didn’t waste any time getting Raburn in the lineup, did he?

mcb. April 22, 2009 at 9:34 pm

I don’t get it. What’s wrong with Ramon Santiago?

Dylan April 22, 2009 at 9:38 pm

For Zumaya: 1 IP, 1 hit, 2 Ks, 18 pitches, 13 strikes
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2009_04_22_indaaa_tolaaa_1

Ryan P. April 22, 2009 at 9:40 pm

Oh, nice, I had no idea there was MiLB gameday. Glad Zoom is looking good, we could use his 2006 self.

Dylan April 22, 2009 at 9:56 pm

Zumaya is ready for the Yanks
http://www.freep.com/article/20090422/SPORTS02/90422113/1048/SPORTS/Joel+Zumaya+throws+scoreless+inning++averages+95+mph

“I’m ready to face those Yankees,” he said. “I know they’re coming to town.”

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:05 pm

rough deal for marcus, eh?

kjw April 22, 2009 at 10:09 pm

Does anyone know why Thames is not in this lineup?

Ryan P. April 22, 2009 at 10:10 pm

He’s hurt, look at the next article down.

kjw April 22, 2009 at 10:10 pm

I just noticed the injury line below…….what happened?

Mr. X April 22, 2009 at 10:12 pm

Nice rip by Polanco!

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:13 pm

didn’t waste any time getting on the board!

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:15 pm

well ain’t that a hoot?

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:18 pm

well, that really puts a downer on a perfectly good start. good job cabrera.

Ryan P. April 22, 2009 at 10:19 pm

Wow, Magglio sure looked safe to me.

mcb. April 22, 2009 at 10:21 pm

Magglio was safe. Bad call. Verlander shaking off Laird and throwing all fastballs again.

Ryan P. April 22, 2009 at 10:24 pm

He can throw all the fastballs he wants right now if he can locate it. He better switch it up the second time around this time, though.

Ryan P. April 22, 2009 at 10:28 pm

…and he can’t.

David G. April 22, 2009 at 10:31 pm

The high pitch counts are just ridiculous at this point.

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:31 pm

curveball looks WAY off according to game day.

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:32 pm

i’m wondering if there’s something wrong with jv that hasn’t been found. maybe he has an anxiety issue too?

David G. April 22, 2009 at 10:32 pm

Unreal. Verlander Strikes Again.

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:33 pm

seriously. 30+ pitches in the 1st inning? Bring in the Zach Attack.

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:33 pm

and blowing a 2-0 lead. ZACH!

Ryan P. April 22, 2009 at 10:33 pm

Justin. Give me a *#$&ing break.

Adrian from Toronto April 22, 2009 at 10:33 pm

oh man

David G. April 22, 2009 at 10:34 pm

Good 36 pitching Inning, JV.

billfer April 22, 2009 at 10:34 pm

Why can’t Verlander even get reasonable defense behind him?

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:35 pm

36 pitches. Blown 2 run lead. Really? Something’s up with that boy.

Adam April 22, 2009 at 10:35 pm

Not Justin’s fault. He had pitched three outs – Raburn’s “allowed hit,” contributed a lot to this.

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:37 pm

@ adam: sure it’s his fault. who else’s would it be?

Adam April 22, 2009 at 10:38 pm

@Russ: Look in right field.

amason April 22, 2009 at 10:38 pm

Not to mention the Angels have been patient both nights (and fouled off nine in JV’s first). Armando only lasted five innings last night and I think he got good defense.

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 10:39 pm

What is it with there being no defense behind Verlander in all of his starts and then Verlander having a meltdown? I am so sick of this crap. I’m beginning to wonder if Verlander will ever be right. Looks like Saunders is getting settled in. This game looks a lot like last night already….

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:41 pm

can’t only have gameday. if it’s the wind he has to know how to adjust. which looks like saunders is able to do.

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 10:42 pm

Tigers pitching can’t adjust….Angels pitching can….that is the trend I am picking up here….

billfer April 22, 2009 at 10:42 pm

Verlander didn’t have good command that inning which was a part of the pitch count problem. The other problem was needing 4 outs.

David G. April 22, 2009 at 10:43 pm

CCS’ ERA after 4 starts last year: 13.50.

CCS’ ERA when he was traded: 3.83.

I guess we can hope.

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:43 pm

i’m telling you. verlnader ain’t right. i disagree that he’s had any quality starts. and i do think he’s had a decent amount of support behind him. no excuses for a full lousy year and a seriously bad start. something’s wrong.

Adam April 22, 2009 at 10:43 pm

Come on guys, it’s been one inning. Where’s that fightin’ spirit we used to have? Everyone’s so darn fatalistic.

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 10:43 pm

Verlander will probably settle in…but will the offense be able to pick him up at all? I have my doubts after last night….

Mr. X April 22, 2009 at 10:45 pm

Typical baseball game if you ask me.

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 10:45 pm

Wow…..this is really looking like last night….No quick innings for our pitching…. The angles are working on schooling us again…just like the last 7 years.

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:46 pm

@adam: basing my judgment on the horrible starts from a season ago and the clear lack of improvement thus far. Not basing it on one inning.

Mr. X April 22, 2009 at 10:47 pm

Weaver pitched awesome last night. Only made 2 bad pitches, both to Granderson.

Russ April 22, 2009 at 10:49 pm

@Mr. X: true that.

David G. April 22, 2009 at 10:50 pm

Jim just grabbed the nicotine-infused sunflower seeds. We’re good to go now.

Adrian from Toronto April 22, 2009 at 10:50 pm

honestly
JV is the definition of enigma

Mr. X April 22, 2009 at 10:53 pm

Inge would of caught that ball.

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 10:53 pm

Looks like Grandy was safe there. Hopefully it won’t hurt us too much.

And it did…

Sorta…

David G. April 22, 2009 at 10:55 pm

Good job getting back to first, Maggs, the streak is still alive.

billfer April 22, 2009 at 11:01 pm

Viva Venezuela!

Mr. X April 22, 2009 at 11:01 pm

Nice hitting. Those errors are killer.

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 11:03 pm

Now can Verlander get his crap in line…

Adrian from Toronto April 22, 2009 at 11:04 pm

JV lets go!@

Mr. X April 22, 2009 at 11:06 pm

Raburn is cracking me up out there.

Adam April 22, 2009 at 11:07 pm

I’m firing Raburn.

Slick from Sinfest April 22, 2009 at 11:07 pm

Rayburn, you’re killin me…

billfer April 22, 2009 at 11:08 pm

So, Verlander got 3 quick outs that inning. Too bad Raburn blew it.

jimcip April 22, 2009 at 11:08 pm

rayburn must have caught verlander hitting on his old laday or something …which may be the only thing he caught!!!!!

Ryan P. April 22, 2009 at 11:08 pm

Rayburn looks terrible. Good god.

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 11:11 pm

Thank you Guillen….

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 11:14 pm

Wow…5 pitch inning…way to work him guys…

ouchudied April 22, 2009 at 11:20 pm

Then Verlander fires back with a 6 pitch inning. Nice.

Mr. X April 22, 2009 at 11:21 pm

3rd time around for Saunders. Time to knock him out.

Kyle J April 22, 2009 at 11:21 pm

JV now has 24 Ks in 20 IP. And an 8.10 ERA.

Baseball is a funny sport.

Mr. X April 22, 2009 at 11:23 pm

Granderson !!! HOMERUN!

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 11:23 pm

Nice Grandy….Now if we can just pile it on and hold on.

Anson April 22, 2009 at 11:24 pm

Was that an inside the park HR? Gamecast says it didn’t quite get out.

Nick S April 22, 2009 at 11:24 pm

Go Go Granderson

It made it out.

Ryan P. April 22, 2009 at 11:27 pm

About 3 feet deep and 3 feet west of the foul pole.

greg April 22, 2009 at 11:28 pm

Look at that Curtis ‘nothing more than a platoon player’ Granderson go and smack the snot out of that offering by a lefty.

Atta boy Curtis!

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 11:32 pm

…We aren’t going to lose the lead already, are we???

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 11:35 pm

….What an absolute joke…GET RABURN OUT OF THERE!!! AND VERLANDER!!! gah!

Adrian from Toronto April 22, 2009 at 11:35 pm

u h oh

Brenden April 22, 2009 at 11:37 pm

I’m done watching this crap….. Verlander is broken…..

Adrian from Toronto April 22, 2009 at 11:38 pm

wow

charlie April 22, 2009 at 11:38 pm

looks like we acquired jason tyner from the brewers for nothing…sending him to toledo.

David G. April 22, 2009 at 11:39 pm

Verlander has stopped dominating hitters, and by a long shot. So long, Ace, we barely knew ya.

Ryan P. April 22, 2009 at 11:43 pm

One more fail of a start and something has to be done to Verlander. This is ridiculous.

Ryan April 22, 2009 at 11:45 pm

I’m about ready to use the B word with Verlander. What a bum.

ouchudied April 22, 2009 at 11:45 pm

How many outs did Raburn give up? I’m watching it on gamecast.

Mr. X April 22, 2009 at 11:45 pm

Verlander was just leaving his pitches up in the middle of the plate. He’s still getting good movement though. We’re only down by 2 runs. I’d like to see the Tigers grind this game out for a win.

Adam April 22, 2009 at 11:46 pm

What are you going to do to him?

David G. April 22, 2009 at 11:46 pm

Gerald Laird resembles Bilfer.

JOE Z April 22, 2009 at 11:47 pm

about time verlander develops a new pitch i say

David G. April 22, 2009 at 11:48 pm

We need to quit talking about how many outs Raburn made Verlander get and start asking why he couldn’t get them when he knew he had to.

Ryan P. April 22, 2009 at 11:48 pm

Spank him. Something, seriously. I don’t know, but wow. 15-day bs-DL stint if it continues.

Adam April 22, 2009 at 11:49 pm

“Look how straight his balls go – yeah, they’re really flat.” A female in the vicinity. About Speier.

Kevin in Austin (now Dallas) April 22, 2009 at 11:49 pm

I think we’ll get another 2 runs, but I don’t think the Angels are done either.

Verlander will get it figured out. Just a bad spell.

David G. April 22, 2009 at 11:50 pm

And I am with you Mr. X, I will be in this game till the end hoping they can pull it out. Bullpen probably needs to pitch a 4 inning shutout though.

David G. April 22, 2009 at 11:51 pm

WELCOME JOSH! This would be a great time for your first Tiger HR.

Nick S April 22, 2009 at 11:58 pm

LOL when I first saw Anderson was going to steal I was thinking whats the point we have 2 outs with Everett up. But Everett came through with that single, nice job.

ouchudied April 22, 2009 at 11:58 pm

@David

I was merely asking about it I heard alot of bitching about Raburn and I can’t watch the game.

Brenden April 23, 2009 at 12:10 am

I’ve got my pick for who leaves when Zumaya is healthy….Rincon….Bull pen lets us down again…

Ryan P. April 23, 2009 at 12:11 am

Enjoy your last day with the club, Rincon.

Mr. X April 23, 2009 at 12:12 am

Verlander needs to be a little more wild or more perfect to be effective. When he’s in between wild and filthy, he gets the snot kicked out of him more often than not.

Adrian from Toronto April 23, 2009 at 12:13 am

why is he on the team

Mr. X April 23, 2009 at 12:13 am

Yeah, Rincon is pitching himself off the team here.

Brenden April 23, 2009 at 12:15 am

I’m about 1 run away from turning it off for good.

David G. April 23, 2009 at 12:15 am

When Zoom comes up (before he gets hurt again) Bonine will go down.

Joey in Portland OR April 23, 2009 at 12:16 am

ok glad I’m not the only wondering why rincon is still on this team.

Ryan P. April 23, 2009 at 12:16 am

Forgot about Bonine, but still. Terrible stuff every time out from Rincon.

Mr. X April 23, 2009 at 12:17 am

Ok Rincon. Minimal damage done. We’re still in this game.

Adam April 23, 2009 at 12:20 am

Need a Miggs homer.

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 12:21 am

Billfer’s right about the defense for Verlander though…even Inge has had no web gems for him and one bounced throw to the plate…maybe there’s some sort of negative energy out there when he’s on the mound…

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 12:22 am

There’s still a lot of outs left here, and Cabrera may burn through one of their bullpen in one AB…

Ryan P. April 23, 2009 at 12:27 am

Gotta get the lead here.

Mr. X April 23, 2009 at 12:27 am

This Shields guy looks worse than Rincon!!!

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 12:28 am

Wouldn’t be a bad time for Laird to “take one for the team” again either…

Ryan P. April 23, 2009 at 12:28 am

I love how Mario won’t say…”streaking” . I assume, at least. haha.

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 12:29 am

Inge could open this game up like a can of something or another here, and I hope he does cause the on deck circle’s got GIDP sitting on it….

Adam April 23, 2009 at 12:32 am

INGE! Always gets these little bloop misplay RBIs. He’s magic!

Mr. X April 23, 2009 at 12:33 am

LA is gift wrapping this game for us.

Ryan April 23, 2009 at 12:34 am

Wow, clutch by Inge. What happened to Shields? Maybe this is finally the year where his arm falls off, a la Scott Proctor or Eddie Guardado.

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 12:34 am

Man Inge has just been clutch this season! Him and his force-field (one or two more these and I won’t even be joking about that, I mean I don’t remember ever seeing anything like it…)

Ryan P. April 23, 2009 at 12:34 am

Thank the lord, we caught a break. Way to put it in play, Brandon.

Slashpyne April 23, 2009 at 12:35 am

So nice when it’s the other team having a meltdown!

Mr. X April 23, 2009 at 12:37 am

:lol:
:lol:
:lol:

Slashpyne April 23, 2009 at 12:38 am

The Angels radio guys aren’t happy with Abreu on that one.

Ryan April 23, 2009 at 12:40 am

Doesn’t look like Arredondo is the answer either.

Mr. X April 23, 2009 at 12:41 am

:lol:
This is getting crazy
:lol:

tom April 23, 2009 at 12:41 am

This is what shakespeare would call a comedy of errors.

Ryan April 23, 2009 at 12:42 am

Only three runs. The arsonists in our pen can still blow this.

Adam April 23, 2009 at 12:42 am

Dang first pitch GIDP. TO HECK WITH YOUR VICES, MAGGLIO!

Ryan P. April 23, 2009 at 12:43 am

This is by far the most satisfying inning so far this year.

Ah, come on Maggs. Heh.

ouchudied April 23, 2009 at 12:44 am

If Brandon Lyon comes in the game I’m shooting somebody.

Adrian from Toronto April 23, 2009 at 12:45 am

yah but Maggs cant GIDP there…and im not greedy…we still have 9 more outs to go if necessary

Joey in Portland OR April 23, 2009 at 12:47 am

Sweet Rincon in line for the W!

billfer April 23, 2009 at 12:48 am

I’m not in favor of Perry as the set-up man at this point. Too wild, though the K of Matthews was nice. I’d prefer Seay for now.

tom April 23, 2009 at 12:50 am

Defense? By everett?? No error??? I must have fallen asleep on the couch because I am dreaming.

Ryan April 23, 2009 at 12:51 am

@tom – He plays defense, unless the score is tied or it’s a one run game. That’s when he boots it.

Adrian from Toronto April 23, 2009 at 12:55 am

did anyone notice (not trying to jinx it or anything): Everett’s average is .308

haha i was so shocked when i saw that, hopefully he can hit at least over .250, although that’s wishing judging by his career stats

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 12:57 am

@Tom, Ryan: it just occurred to me–Everett’s defense is Inge’s fault (so is Santiago’s), they are close enough to suffer from the same force-field effect that works in his favor when he is batting. I suggest whoever is at SS play close to the bag…

Adam April 23, 2009 at 12:57 am

Or that Inge is at .306? (Much of that is arguably due to infield non-errors, however.)

Still, it’s nice to see.

billfer April 23, 2009 at 12:58 am

Well, Everett has a whole career of being an excellent defender. The fact he had a couple rough weeks is more the outlier.

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 1:00 am

Just for fun, if you include the Proximity Effect on his teammates as well as his plate appearances, so far Inge has been involved in 44% of the American League Shortstop errors so far this season…

tom April 23, 2009 at 1:01 am

@coleman-

In support of your theory, note that everett was at a maximal distance from inge when he gloved that ball…

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 1:05 am

It’s been nice having Seay come in and knowing we aren’t going to be walking guys…he’s starting to remind me of the 2006 Jamie Walker…

Mr. X April 23, 2009 at 1:09 am

Inge baby!! INGE!!

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 1:09 am

I’m sure the pitcher’s under instructions here, whatever you do, don’t throw Inge anything he can bounce to shortstop…

Slashpyne April 23, 2009 at 1:09 am

Binge!

tom April 23, 2009 at 1:09 am

Inge! He better watch out or they’re going to start pitching to him like he’s babe ruth

Adrian from Toronto April 23, 2009 at 1:10 am

@coleman

don’t jinx it! im enjoying our decent bullpen, as im sure u r too!

last year when jones blew that game against the white sox i punched a hole in my basement wall!
no more bad bullpen, it kills me!

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 1:11 am

Whoa, no errors possible on that one! Bingo Bango Binge!

Adam April 23, 2009 at 1:11 am

Haha that Babe Ruth stuff never gets old.

Adrian from Toronto April 23, 2009 at 1:11 am

wow he killed that…cabrera-esque

Ryan April 23, 2009 at 1:12 am

Good point, bilfer. He has been an excellent defender in his career, particularly in his Astros days.

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 1:12 am

Another run probably Rodney-proofs this one then Adrian can relax…

Slashpyne April 23, 2009 at 1:17 am

I have been enjoying the dimension Josh Anderson adds to the team.

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 1:18 am

Random fact: last season Inge hit his 5th HR on June 6.

Slashpyne April 23, 2009 at 1:22 am

The Angels radio guys said Rodney is 32. That’s not right, is it?

tom April 23, 2009 at 1:22 am

@billfer

True, everett has had a rough few weeks. I am more impressed because guys are coming back into form – guillen and grandy are hitting. Everett defense. Even zumaya is looking good. If only JV amd maggs follow suit soon.

Adrian from Toronto April 23, 2009 at 1:24 am

oh boy…so close…and great a hit

Adrian from Toronto April 23, 2009 at 1:25 am

and just as i say that DP…good.

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 1:25 am

It’s still early, but I’m guessing that the bottom of the lineup hitting can be dropped way down the list of concerns for this season. As of yesterday (so not including tonight’s onslaught) Detroit’s 7-9 hitters had an OPS of .809, best in baseball (their 3-6 hitters: .806).

tom April 23, 2009 at 1:26 am

And as if on cue, another great everett dp.

Adrian from Toronto April 23, 2009 at 1:26 am

that was a nice place by everett

Ryan April 23, 2009 at 1:27 am

Way too good of a pitch with two strikes, even with a big lead.

Adrian from Toronto April 23, 2009 at 1:28 am

no screwing around, get the last out!

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 1:29 am

For those of us “watching” on gameday…how straight is Rodney’s hat tonight?

Adrian from Toronto April 23, 2009 at 1:30 am

oh no…tying run batting now

tom April 23, 2009 at 1:30 am

If we lose this freaking game…

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 1:30 am

Man do I wish we had gotten that one more run…

Ryan April 23, 2009 at 1:32 am

Rodney is losing confidence.. that’s like his tenth straight changeup.

Adam April 23, 2009 at 1:32 am

How’s Aybar’s power?

tom April 23, 2009 at 1:33 am

You have got to be kidding me… Come on rodney

Ryan P. April 23, 2009 at 1:33 am

Rodney…

Mr. X April 23, 2009 at 1:33 am

A win is a win. WTG Tigers.

Adam April 23, 2009 at 1:33 am

Okay. Ugliest win ever. But it counts.

tom April 23, 2009 at 1:35 am

I am a young man but I will have a heart attack if the “closer” starts doing that on a regular basis.

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 1:35 am

Holy Kyle Farnsworth did that ever make me sweat!

Adrian from Toronto April 23, 2009 at 1:36 am

ok phew!

good win by coming back

pitching has to be better tho

for once, however, when JV is pitching against the other team’s best pitcher, id like him to outpitch the other for once.

Coleman April 23, 2009 at 1:40 am

Well, to get anywhere you’ve gotta win some ugly. And lest anyone forget last season–it beats the hell out of LOSING ugly!

jud April 23, 2009 at 1:41 am

From Angels Stadium.
..the streak ends at 10 in a row for us at this stadium…. the curse is over…we are pumped up for tomorrow now..the next streak breaker is no series wins since 1970….go Tigers

funny how everyone here is crying about the Angel bullpen…we just laugh!!!!!!

David April 23, 2009 at 2:44 am

lets get a series win!, caught the 9th.

Inge hits another hr, Rodney looked bad

Scanning these comments doesn’t make me feel so good about Raburn, or Verlander for that matter. Coleman that random factoid about Inge is not surprising to say the least. It is very interesting though. I know it is still very early anybody want to put an over/under on his HR totals for the year? (assuming health)

Every day it is looking like he is going to break his career high. Right now he is on pace for 58 hrs! lol. Maybe he’ll hit 30+. ;)

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