Comments on: Zumaya, Willis to DL http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:08:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Andre in Chi http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111723 Andre in Chi Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:33:02 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111723 Chris, Like a trusty old huntin' dawg that's got nothing left, we'll take you behind the shed and make sure its quick and painless... Chris,

Like a trusty old huntin’ dawg that’s got nothing left, we’ll take you behind the shed and make sure its quick and painless…

]]> By: Chris in Dallas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111722 Chris in Dallas Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:57:23 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111722 Nice outing for 'mando this afternoon. 9 K's vs. 1 BB in 5 IP. 2 H, one of which stayed in the park (yes, I just paraphrased a Hawk Harrelson meme - shoot me). Nice outing for ‘mando this afternoon. 9 K’s vs. 1 BB in 5 IP. 2 H, one of which stayed in the park (yes, I just paraphrased a Hawk Harrelson meme – shoot me).

]]> By: Dave T. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111720 Dave T. Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:02:32 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111720 I don't like this trade simply b/c 1. its a pitcher for a position player 2. its with the Braves every time we trade with the Braves we wind up resenting it later I don’t like this trade simply b/c
1. its a pitcher for a position player
2. its with the Braves

every time we trade with the Braves we wind up resenting it later

]]> By: Andre in Chi http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111719 Andre in Chi Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:59:56 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111719 Mac, A shallow analysis from a quick look at Fangraphs.com (a) Darrow - "ok" pitching prospect: (http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=paF06028&position=P) (b) Anderson - I can only speculate that he's meant to provide depth at center, which has been talked about here a little...he's also a lefty bat (which the Tigers need more of), who hits for a decent average: (http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=6032&position=OF) Mac,

A shallow analysis from a quick look at Fangraphs.com

(a) Darrow – “ok” pitching prospect:
(http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....position=P)

(b) Anderson – I can only speculate that he’s meant to provide depth at center, which has been talked about here a little…he’s also a lefty bat (which the Tigers need more of), who hits for a decent average:
(http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....osition=OF)

]]> By: Mac http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111718 Mac Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:46:43 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111718 Hi, Braves fan here. I've seen a report that the Braves have just traded Josh Anderson to you guys for Rudy Darrow. I was wondering (a) if Darrow is anything and (b) why a team with Curtis Granderson would want Josh Anderson. Hi, Braves fan here. I’ve seen a report that the Braves have just traded Josh Anderson to you guys for Rudy Darrow. I was wondering (a) if Darrow is anything and (b) why a team with Curtis Granderson would want Josh Anderson.

]]> By: The Spot Starters » 2009 Season Dontrelle Willis » Thoughts on Dontrelle Willis http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111717 The Spot Starters » 2009 Season Dontrelle Willis » Thoughts on Dontrelle Willis Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:28:08 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111717 [...] Detroit Tigers Weblog: This seemingly means that Willis can stay on the DL indefinitely. The trick is that there are limits to rehab assignments. So while he can be on the DL to work through these issues, he has limited time to demonstrate a recovery.  This is a very sad story for Willis and I wish him the best. [...] [...] Detroit Tigers Weblog: This seemingly means that Willis can stay on the DL indefinitely. The trick is that there are limits to rehab assignments. So while he can be on the DL to work through these issues, he has limited time to demonstrate a recovery.  This is a very sad story for Willis and I wish him the best. [...]

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111716 ron Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:26:13 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111716 Maybe the psychiatric lobby in the medical arena is too influential. "Let me take your blood, prescribe something and see you in 6 months" as opposed to "Time's up, see you next week." I personally know a lady who has been in therapy for 50 years here in N.Y.C. ( which is not unusual here) and when her therapist goes on vacation, all her patients meet as a group one hour a week and mail her their regular fee. Maybe the psychiatric lobby in the medical arena is too influential. “Let me take your blood, prescribe something and see you in 6 months” as opposed to “Time’s up, see you next week.” I personally know a lady who has been in therapy for 50 years here in N.Y.C. ( which is not unusual here) and when her therapist goes on vacation, all her patients meet as a group one hour a week and mail her their regular fee.

]]> By: scotsw http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111715 scotsw Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:39:28 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111715 Well, I've been saying that the Tigers were going to have to find a way to DL Willis, and this makes plenty of sense to me. I won't pretend to have a diagnosis of what ails Willis, except it's been clear to me even in the glimpses we've gotten of him this spring that "stuff" isn't the problem. He can go out there and lay half a dozen crisp pitches over the plate, and every now and then he shoots the moon. He looked like a hyperactive cat last time out, way over-adrenalized, and just not in command of his own energy. I love the guy, and want to see him succeed. Now, it sounds like they've pinpointed his issue. Dontrelle's right: He's not crazy. Not even close. But you can't let the jitters take over when it's crunch time. I'm optimistic that with some medicine and some counseling, they can get him back "in the zone." As for the rest of the Tigers' pitching mess, I've been hearing good things about this Jair Jurrjens fella in Atlanta... I like the idea of starting Porcello in Bonderman's spot to get his feet wet. Well, I’ve been saying that the Tigers were going to have to find a way to DL Willis, and this makes plenty of sense to me. I won’t pretend to have a diagnosis of what ails Willis, except it’s been clear to me even in the glimpses we’ve gotten of him this spring that “stuff” isn’t the problem. He can go out there and lay half a dozen crisp pitches over the plate, and every now and then he shoots the moon. He looked like a hyperactive cat last time out, way over-adrenalized, and just not in command of his own energy. I love the guy, and want to see him succeed. Now, it sounds like they’ve pinpointed his issue.

Dontrelle’s right: He’s not crazy. Not even close. But you can’t let the jitters take over when it’s crunch time. I’m optimistic that with some medicine and some counseling, they can get him back “in the zone.”

As for the rest of the Tigers’ pitching mess, I’ve been hearing good things about this Jair Jurrjens fella in Atlanta…

I like the idea of starting Porcello in Bonderman’s spot to get his feet wet.

]]> By: Adam http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111714 Adam Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:53:53 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111714 I agree with all of this. I just don't get the "blood test = anxiety" connection. Maybe he was just nervous about needles (that was a joke). I agree with all of this. I just don’t get the “blood test = anxiety” connection. Maybe he was just nervous about needles (that was a joke).

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111713 ron Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:16:04 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111713 Zach Greinke of the Royals had a type of anxiety disorder and with proper medication, his performance improved dramatically. Checking different websites, this is not an uncommon problem in sports in general, just never spoken about. Zach Greinke of the Royals had a type of anxiety disorder and with proper medication, his performance improved dramatically. Checking different websites, this is not an uncommon problem in sports in general, just never spoken about.

]]> By: David http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111712 David Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:47:19 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111712 You can point to this "The reports are glowing when he pitches in camp or minor league games, but the results aren’t appearing in regular exhibition events." - Billfer and your last quote Kathy about mucking things up for us. If both are the case, then that would explain a lot. It would essentially mean his stuff is still there, but his ability to calm himself down isn't (AT TIMES). It is almost funny looking at his stats with the Marlins. Is ROY then is so-so, then comes in 2nd in the Cy Young balloting then his ERA again drops by over a run. Also see his post season/all star pitching well although a small sample size - was horrible. It COULD and DOES make a lot of sense that he has a greater trouble than most when he feels like he's on a big stage and many many people are counting on him. It really isn't at all SAD for Willis, Billfer. IF THIS IS THE CASE. It should be the beginning of the best times. He gets some help from a psych, sorts things out and either takes med OR works with the doc OR (the most likely) does both. THIS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_fright should help somewhat. Plus he was handed his first big contract before he even threw a pitch here.For example you watch some guys when they go from small market teams to the Yanks - they can't handle it and wasn't what they were before. Let him find out what it is, talk to a doc a lot. Get all his issues sorted out, start taking something if something is mucked up chemically wise. Hopefully he can improve a lot within a short period of time (ie 6months) and help us. If not oh well. I still think if he makes an active effort to solve his problems he will and will be pitching in the majors again, whether that is 6 months or 6 years I do not know. You can point to this

“The reports are glowing when he pitches in camp or minor league games, but the results aren’t appearing in regular exhibition events.” – Billfer

and your last quote Kathy about mucking things up for us.

If both are the case, then that would explain a lot. It would essentially mean his stuff is still there, but his ability to calm himself down isn’t (AT TIMES). It is almost funny looking at his stats with the Marlins. Is ROY then is so-so, then comes in 2nd in the Cy Young balloting then his ERA again drops by over a run. Also see his post season/all star pitching well although a small sample size – was horrible.

It COULD and DOES make a lot of sense that he has a greater trouble than most when he feels like he’s on a big stage and many many people are counting on him. It really isn’t at all SAD for Willis, Billfer. IF THIS IS THE CASE. It should be the beginning of the best times. He gets some help from a psych, sorts things out and either takes med OR works with the doc OR (the most likely) does both.

THIS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_fright should help somewhat.

Plus he was handed his first big contract before he even threw a pitch here.For example you watch some guys when they go from small market teams to the Yanks – they can’t handle it and wasn’t what they were before.

Let him find out what it is, talk to a doc a lot. Get all his issues sorted out, start taking something if something is mucked up chemically wise. Hopefully he can improve a lot within a short period of time (ie 6months) and help us. If not oh well. I still think if he makes an active effort to solve his problems he will and will be pitching in the majors again, whether that is 6 months or 6 years I do not know.

]]> By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111711 Kathy Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:40:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111711 Sure does, ron. Runs in my family. I'm not sure what kind of anxiety they have diagnosed him with....whether it's just generalized anxiety or if he's actually experiencing anxiety attacks. I recall very clearly Dontrelle making a remark when he got the trade to Detroit. He said "sure hope I don't screw things up for 'em" . Sure does, ron. Runs in my family. I’m not sure what kind of anxiety they have diagnosed him with….whether it’s just generalized anxiety or if he’s actually experiencing anxiety attacks. I recall very clearly Dontrelle making a remark when he got the trade to Detroit. He said “sure hope I don’t screw things up for ‘em” .

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111710 ron Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:26:03 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111710 One more thing. I know genetics plays a major role. One more thing. I know genetics plays a major role.

]]> By: ron http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111709 ron Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:50:14 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111709 Kathy inspired me to check into this a little further. There is a test that measures the level of AChe enzyme in the blood serum using a SPECTRAFlour machine (sounds pretty complex to me). If this measurement is elevated and remains elevated for some time, you are more susceptible to an anxiety disorder. Sam was on top of this. Women are more susceptible as a group and African Americans in general are more likely than others to suffer. 13.3% of the population in this country is affected. Kathy inspired me to check into this a little further. There is a test that measures the level of AChe enzyme in the blood serum using a SPECTRAFlour machine (sounds pretty complex to me). If this measurement is elevated and remains elevated for some time, you are more susceptible to an anxiety disorder. Sam was on top of this. Women are more susceptible as a group and African Americans in general are more likely than others to suffer. 13.3% of the population in this country is affected.

]]> By: Tbone http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/03/zumaya-willis-to-dl/#comment-111708 Tbone Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:45:44 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3883#comment-111708 Willis has been a trainwreck for the Tigers since Day 1. This is shaping into one long saeason... Willis has been a trainwreck for the Tigers since Day 1. This is shaping into one long saeason…

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