Comments on: Bad Boding for Bonderman http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111139 Mark in Chicago Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:25:58 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111139 Well if our trend of following the White Sox by one season continues, then we would be on pace for the 2008 Sox, which means we should have pretty good pitching and a shot at the division. Well if our trend of following the White Sox by one season continues, then we would be on pace for the 2008 Sox, which means we should have pretty good pitching and a shot at the division.

]]> By: Chris in Dallas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111138 Chris in Dallas Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:55:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111138 I think the Tigers can have a decent rotation THIS year if each guy performs reasonably close to his capabilities. Verlander pretty clearly just had an unlucky year in '08, Bonderman has shown he can be a solid #2 guy when/if he's healthy, Galarraga had a nice breakout (even if I expect him to regress some) and Jackson's performance in '08 started to catch up to his raw stuff. The fifth starter spot is up in the air, but you figure one guy out of Miner-Willis-Robertson will be able to contribute something positive. I think these cats can be something like the 5th or 6th best rotation in the AL if all goes well. I think the Tigers can have a decent rotation THIS year if each guy performs reasonably close to his capabilities. Verlander pretty clearly just had an unlucky year in ’08, Bonderman has shown he can be a solid #2 guy when/if he’s healthy, Galarraga had a nice breakout (even if I expect him to regress some) and Jackson’s performance in ’08 started to catch up to his raw stuff. The fifth starter spot is up in the air, but you figure one guy out of Miner-Willis-Robertson will be able to contribute something positive. I think these cats can be something like the 5th or 6th best rotation in the AL if all goes well.

]]> By: JAYRC http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111137 JAYRC Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:53:52 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111137 Glad to hear that everything thing is "fine"...as far as we know. Im with you that even if we gained a 100% Bondo in May or so...its better than another wasted season Chris in Dallas Interesting point on Blaylock. I didnt know about that. I heard several times about the similarities between the surgeries of Rogers and Bonderman though. I may be in the minority here but i REALLY LIKE our semi-young nucleaus of starters. Verlander,Bonderman,Jackson,Porcello and Galarraga. I feel as long as they dont push the clearly injured Bondo and clearly under developed Porcello..that Detroit will have a pretty decent rotation as soon as 2010. Glad to hear that everything thing is “fine”…as far as we know.
Im with you that even if we gained a 100% Bondo in May or so…its better than another wasted season

Chris in Dallas
Interesting point on Blaylock. I didnt know about that. I heard several times about the similarities between the surgeries of Rogers and Bonderman though.

I may be in the minority here but i REALLY LIKE our semi-young nucleaus of starters.
Verlander,Bonderman,Jackson,Porcello and Galarraga. I feel as long as they dont push the clearly injured Bondo and clearly under developed Porcello..that Detroit will have a pretty decent rotation as soon as 2010.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111136 Ryan Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:35:54 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111136 Just in, Bonderman is fine. There is no problems but swelling. Just in, Bonderman is fine. There is no problems but swelling.

]]> By: Kevin in Austin (now Dallas) http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111135 Kevin in Austin (now Dallas) Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:44:23 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111135 Leyland is <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2009/news/story?id=3946426" rel="nofollow">claiming that everything is alright</a>, but he also claimed that he would quit smoking back in 1931. Leyland is claiming that everything is alright, but he also claimed that he would quit smoking back in 1931.

]]> By: Chris in Dallas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111133 Chris in Dallas Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:35:50 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111133 Well, then... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2009/news/story?id=3946426 Why do I get the feeling that the next headline we're going to see is 'Bonderman out for season with shoulder surgery'? Well, then…

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3946426

Why do I get the feeling that the next headline we’re going to see is ‘Bonderman out for season with shoulder surgery’?

]]> By: Dave T. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111132 Dave T. Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:37:41 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111132 Didn't Kenny have this same surgery? I remember the writers saying he was not 100% till the 2nd half of the season. Better to wait on Bondo, he got into this mess by ignoring pain in the first place. Didn’t Kenny have this same surgery? I remember the writers saying he was not 100% till the 2nd half of the season.
Better to wait on Bondo, he got into this mess by ignoring pain in the first place.

]]> By: Chris in Dallas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111130 Chris in Dallas Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:46:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111130 One thing of note: Hank Blalock had the exact same surgery as Bonderman (do they call it a ribectomy?), and had to be moved to 1B/DH because he could no longer make the throw across the diamond. Since he's an infielder it's kind of an apples/oranges comparison, but worrisome nonetheless. One thing of note: Hank Blalock had the exact same surgery as Bonderman (do they call it a ribectomy?), and had to be moved to 1B/DH because he could no longer make the throw across the diamond. Since he’s an infielder it’s kind of an apples/oranges comparison, but worrisome nonetheless.

]]> By: Mr X http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111128 Mr X Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:25:37 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111128 Well, Bondo hasn't pitched in a game for 9 months. I expected that it would take extra time for him to get ready. The Tigers are doing the smart thing and not rushing him back. Still 36 more days until opening day. A lot can happen in that time. Well, Bondo hasn’t pitched in a game for 9 months. I expected that it would take extra time for him to get ready. The Tigers are doing the smart thing and not rushing him back. Still 36 more days until opening day. A lot can happen in that time.

]]> By: Rick G http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111127 Rick G Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:56:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111127 It's hard to not get discouraged by J.B.'s lack of progress, but hopefully we can be patient. Here's my guess at the opening day starting rotation members, in order of likelihood: Verlander, Galarraga, Jackson, Robertson, Miner,<strike> Bonderman, Willis, Porcello</strike>. The September 1st rotation (assuming the Tigers are in contention): Verlander, Galarraga, Jackson, Bonderman, Robertson, <strike>Porcello, Miner,Willis</strike>. It’s hard to not get discouraged by J.B.’s lack of progress, but hopefully we can be patient. Here’s my guess at the opening day starting rotation members, in order of likelihood:

Verlander, Galarraga, Jackson, Robertson, Miner, Bonderman, Willis, Porcello.

The September 1st rotation (assuming the Tigers are in contention):

Verlander, Galarraga, Jackson, Bonderman, Robertson, Porcello, Miner,Willis.

]]> By: Dingerville vs the Mets » Mack Avenue Tigers : A Detroit Tigers Blog http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111126 Dingerville vs the Mets » Mack Avenue Tigers : A Detroit Tigers Blog Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:02:08 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111126 [...] Bilfer immediately thought of last year and Fernando Rodney when he heard about Jeremy Bonderman’s injury status. Sphere It [...] [...] Bilfer immediately thought of last year and Fernando Rodney when he heard about Jeremy Bonderman’s injury status. Sphere It [...]

]]> By: JayRc http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111124 JayRc Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:18:18 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111124 In reference to red flags... Sending Porcello to the bigs that soon....Really? That could be a disaster the kid has only pitched at High A...and had a limited pitch count and didn't even throw all four of his pitches yet. He definately needs more time before he's thrown to the wolves and made a mochery of like Andrew Miller was. At this point I say be just be happy that for once they aren't rushing these guys when they are clearly injured. I'd rather have a healthy Bonderman in both May and October than an ailing half ass version in February resulting in him visiting me down here in Lakeland rehabing with the Flying Tigers all summer long. In the mean time if he isn't ready for the Toronto series.... Fill the hole with a spot starter or sign someone In reference to red flags…
Sending Porcello to the bigs that soon….Really? That could be a disaster the kid has only pitched at High A…and had a limited pitch count and didn’t even throw all four of his pitches yet. He definately needs more time before he’s thrown to the wolves and made a mochery of like Andrew Miller was.
At this point I say be just be happy that for once they aren’t rushing these guys when they are clearly injured. I’d rather have a healthy Bonderman in both May and October than an ailing half ass version in February resulting in him visiting me down here in Lakeland rehabing with the Flying Tigers all summer long.
In the mean time if he isn’t ready for the Toronto series….
Fill the hole with a spot starter or sign someone

]]> By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111122 Kathy Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:56:11 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111122 I read something about him being given medication and then checking him out in a few days, which led me to think that he might have had a cortisone shot. Now, that's just pure speculation on my part, but anti-inflammatory medication (pills) usually take a bit longer to work. I hope he's OK but it might take him until mid summer to be 100%. I read something about him being given medication and then checking him out in a few days, which led me to think that he might have had a cortisone shot. Now, that’s just pure speculation on my part, but anti-inflammatory medication (pills) usually take a bit longer to work. I hope he’s OK but it might take him until mid summer to be 100%.

]]> By: Chris Y. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111121 Chris Y. Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:33:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111121 Certainly, this is the ugliest revelation of the first week of the spring. Dontrelle melting down was a given, even if we all were hoping for a sea-change. Without Bonderman, the rotation gets thin fast. That said, even without the three question marks, here's what an 09 rotation COULD look like: Verlander, Galarraga, Jackson, Miner, Porcello. Certainly, this group has a number of short-comings, not least of which is that it would require rushing (as I think most of us would perceive it) Porcello. But, it is a rotation that, I think, could still be plenty competitive. I mean, just think of the Indians' rotation. You are right, Vince. The Jackson trade looks a ton more important these days. And I say that as an initial naysayer of the trade. Certainly, this is the ugliest revelation of the first week of the spring. Dontrelle melting down was a given, even if we all were hoping for a sea-change. Without Bonderman, the rotation gets thin fast.

That said, even without the three question marks, here’s what an 09 rotation COULD look like:

Verlander, Galarraga, Jackson, Miner, Porcello.

Certainly, this group has a number of short-comings, not least of which is that it would require rushing (as I think most of us would perceive it) Porcello. But, it is a rotation that, I think, could still be plenty competitive.

I mean, just think of the Indians’ rotation.

You are right, Vince. The Jackson trade looks a ton more important these days. And I say that as an initial naysayer of the trade.

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111119 Vince in MN Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:15:39 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/02/bad-boding-for-bonderman/#comment-111119 I guess this is why they have 7 potential starters in camp vying for rotation spots. Regardless of all the off-season hype about Bonderman and Willis being in "great" shape, the liklihood of them failing to recover their effectiveness (for whatever reason) is still pretty high. Plus Robertson being a question mark, the trade for Jackson starts to make more sense. I guess this is why they have 7 potential starters in camp vying for rotation spots. Regardless of all the off-season hype about Bonderman and Willis being in “great” shape, the liklihood of them failing to recover their effectiveness (for whatever reason) is still pretty high. Plus Robertson being a question mark, the trade for Jackson starts to make more sense.

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