Comments on: Henning on the Tigers left side defense http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:06:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: More Baseball Links (click here for the links) | The Baseball Bat Reviews Blog http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110891 More Baseball Links (click here for the links) | The Baseball Bat Reviews Blog Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:27:14 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110891 [...] Comment on Henning on the Tigers left side defense by Youth … - [...] The Detroit Tigers Weblog, Lynn Henning does a good job of explaining the defensive statistics the Tigers are using to [...] [...] [...] Comment on Henning on the Tigers left side defense by Youth … – [...] The Detroit Tigers Weblog, Lynn Henning does a good job of explaining the defensive statistics the Tigers are using to [...] [...]

]]> By: Chris in Dallas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110744 Chris in Dallas Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:11:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110744 billfer: I'm just going by my eyes on that one. I would assume he rates as average because he <i>is</i> an accurate thrower. He doesn't exactly have a cannon, though. But I guess everyone can't be Ichiro. billfer: I’m just going by my eyes on that one. I would assume he rates as average because he is an accurate thrower. He doesn’t exactly have a cannon, though. But I guess everyone can’t be Ichiro.

]]> By: greg http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110742 greg Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:41:10 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110742 My only concern with Guillen in LF is the health of his arm, he had quite a few bouts of wildness at SS due to supposed health issues with his arm. We shall see, but I'd think overall he has to be an upgrade over Thames defensively and certainly good enough for LF. I too would prefer that Guillen DH down the road(actually right now I'd like that if Sheffield doesn't bounce back), but I think the front office has their eyes on Maggs being ticketed for the DH role at some point as he ages. My only concern with Guillen in LF is the health of his arm, he had quite a few bouts of wildness at SS due to supposed health issues with his arm. We shall see, but I’d think overall he has to be an upgrade over Thames defensively and certainly good enough for LF.

I too would prefer that Guillen DH down the road(actually right now I’d like that if Sheffield doesn’t bounce back), but I think the front office has their eyes on Maggs being ticketed for the DH role at some point as he ages.

]]> By: Youth Baseball Parks Blog » Blog Archive » Improving Defense http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110734 Youth Baseball Parks Blog » Blog Archive » Improving Defense Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:34:55 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110734 [...] The Detroit Tigers Weblog, Lynn Henning does a good job of explaining the defensive statistics the Tigers are using to [...] [...] The Detroit Tigers Weblog, Lynn Henning does a good job of explaining the defensive statistics the Tigers are using to [...]

]]> By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110727 billfer Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:21:54 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110727 @Chris in Dallas Ordonez's arm actually rates as average, and has for a few years. @Chris in Dallas

Ordonez’s arm actually rates as average, and has for a few years.

]]> By: Chauncey http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110724 Chauncey Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:51:46 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110724 Coach Jim- I too was really surprised that Sean Casey decided to retire. I think part of his problem is that he doesn't hit home runs- which everyone expects guys playing at one of the corners to do- I think too much emphasis is placed on homeruns, and would gladly take a lefty on the Tigers that hit .322, but oh well... BTW, I also don't think Guillen's range in left field will be a great liability. They made due with Thames for large parts of the last couple years, and I can't believe that Guillen's range could be any worse. Coach Jim- I too was really surprised that Sean Casey decided to retire. I think part of his problem is that he doesn’t hit home runs- which everyone expects guys playing at one of the corners to do- I think too much emphasis is placed on homeruns, and would gladly take a lefty on the Tigers that hit .322, but oh well…

BTW, I also don’t think Guillen’s range in left field will be a great liability. They made due with Thames for large parts of the last couple years, and I can’t believe that Guillen’s range could be any worse.

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110722 Vince in MN Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:17:05 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110722 Guillen's arm: What's Everett's arm like? He'll be the cut-off man on balls that go in the gaps to left. Guillen’s arm:

What’s Everett’s arm like? He’ll be the cut-off man on balls that go in the gaps to left.

]]> By: Chris in Dallas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110721 Chris in Dallas Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:47:26 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110721 I share the concerns about Guillen's arm in the OF. One thing makes me optimistic, though - they've made do with Ordonez's "arm" in RF these past few years. With that in mind, I don't think it will be a terrible liability. I share the concerns about Guillen’s arm in the OF. One thing makes me optimistic, though – they’ve made do with Ordonez’s “arm” in RF these past few years. With that in mind, I don’t think it will be a terrible liability.

]]> By: Dave BW http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110720 Dave BW Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:58:04 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110720 Even worse -- it was Neifi! Even worse — it was Neifi!

]]> By: Mark in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110719 Mark in Chicago Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:57:05 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110719 Goodness Dave BW, I forgot Timo started Game 1. What a frightening thought. Timo is fine as a replacement player, but the history has been Jimmuh giving him a bigger role than he should. That is concerning. To be fair, Timo had a great stint at the end of 2007 where he performed way above his norms. However, I fear Jimmuh will use that as evidence that batting him 3rd is not a bat-sh*t crazy decision. Great comments about Lynn Henning's article. It's a slow process, but more and more "mainstream" writers are coming around to the impact of sabermetrics. Baby steps, I suppose, but progress is progress. For the record, I share concerns about Guillen in left. Aggressive managers like Scoscia and Ozzie Guillen are going to run on him all day long. It's something that bears watching, maybe Clevlan makes the team given his versatility and defensive prowess. If so, Thames probably gets traded in spring training for relief help. Too bad we don't have a guy like Matt Joyce to put out in LF in the late innings..... Goodness Dave BW, I forgot Timo started Game 1. What a frightening thought. Timo is fine as a replacement player, but the history has been Jimmuh giving him a bigger role than he should. That is concerning. To be fair, Timo had a great stint at the end of 2007 where he performed way above his norms. However, I fear Jimmuh will use that as evidence that batting him 3rd is not a bat-sh*t crazy decision.

Great comments about Lynn Henning’s article. It’s a slow process, but more and more “mainstream” writers are coming around to the impact of sabermetrics. Baby steps, I suppose, but progress is progress. For the record, I share concerns about Guillen in left. Aggressive managers like Scoscia and Ozzie Guillen are going to run on him all day long. It’s something that bears watching, maybe Clevlan makes the team given his versatility and defensive prowess. If so, Thames probably gets traded in spring training for relief help. Too bad we don’t have a guy like Matt Joyce to put out in LF in the late innings…..

]]> By: Tim D http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110717 Tim D Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:27:14 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110717 Guillen still has good speed. Playing the OF allows him to just run, as opposed to all the awkward movments required in the IF. Infielders get hurt more than outfielders. So maybe he will stay healthier. I expect he will get to balls ok, but I share the concern about his throwing. He has a strong arm but he's never had to make a throw from the gap to 3B or home. I like Timo Perez notwithstanding his shortcomings. He's just a fun player. Hopefully Leyland won't be tempted to give him a big role. He's fine for the Toledo injury stopgap. Henning has come around in recent years on sabermetrics. I think he agrees with Dombrowski, that the new metrics are useful but that nothing replaces the subjective assessment of professionals. That said I expect Inge and Everett to be net negatives, their gloves not saving enough runs to make up for their "offense." Guillen still has good speed. Playing the OF allows him to just run, as opposed to all the awkward movments required in the IF. Infielders get hurt more than outfielders. So maybe he will stay healthier. I expect he will get to balls ok, but I share the concern about his throwing. He has a strong arm but he’s never had to make a throw from the gap to 3B or home.

I like Timo Perez notwithstanding his shortcomings. He’s just a fun player. Hopefully Leyland won’t be tempted to give him a big role. He’s fine for the Toledo injury stopgap.

Henning has come around in recent years on sabermetrics. I think he agrees with Dombrowski, that the new metrics are useful but that nothing replaces the subjective assessment of professionals. That said I expect Inge and Everett to be net negatives, their gloves not saving enough runs to make up for their “offense.”

]]> By: Matthew Gargano http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110715 Matthew Gargano Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:47:54 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110715 IMO the acquisition of Adam Everett and the presence Ramon Santiago give the Tigers some real depth in SS... I can't believe Henning didn't weigh in on that as much... I totally agree with Vince about Guillen... he's the eventual DH when Sheffield breaks down. If only Wikin Ramirez could hit some sliders.... -Mat IMO the acquisition of Adam Everett and the presence Ramon Santiago give the Tigers some real depth in SS… I can’t believe Henning didn’t weigh in on that as much…

I totally agree with Vince about Guillen… he’s the eventual DH when Sheffield breaks down.

If only Wikin Ramirez could hit some sliders….

-Mat

]]> By: Kathy http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110712 Kathy Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:27:09 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110712 Timo did a fine job for us in '07. They love him in Toledo. Some guys never make it to A ball let alone AAA and they can make a pretty good living playing in the minor leagues imo. Timo did a fine job for us in ’07. They love him in Toledo. Some guys never make it to A ball let alone AAA and they can make a pretty good living playing in the minor leagues imo.

]]> By: Vince in MN http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110710 Vince in MN Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:34:35 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110710 Guillen is our DH in waiting - as soon as Sheffield's arm (or shoulder or whatever) falls off. Until then he may be a serviceable LF. I can't imagine he will be "our regular LF" for the whole seaon. Guillen is our DH in waiting – as soon as Sheffield’s arm (or shoulder or whatever) falls off. Until then he may be a serviceable LF. I can’t imagine he will be “our regular LF” for the whole seaon.

]]> By: Dave BW http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110709 Dave BW Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:16:57 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2009/01/henning-on-the-tigers-left-side-defense/#comment-110709 Mark -- I saw part of WS 06 Game 1 today, and Neifi Perez was starting. I know this even seemed retarded at the time, but wow Mark –

I saw part of WS 06 Game 1 today, and Neifi Perez was starting. I know this even seemed retarded at the time, but wow

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