Comments on: Winter Meetings – Heading to Day 4 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/ News, views, and analysis on the Detroit Tigers and baseball Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:11:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: billfer http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109792 billfer Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:00:46 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109792 With regard to the bullpen, there are a few months left until spring training. Hoffman is still available, Fuentes is still available. Cruz and Lyon are still available. It's not like every bullpen arm has been snapped up. At this point it may be better to wait it out and see if prices drop. I'm less worried about that at the moment than the Jackson trade and leaving Skelton unprotected which can't be undone. With regard to the bullpen, there are a few months left until spring training. Hoffman is still available, Fuentes is still available. Cruz and Lyon are still available. It’s not like every bullpen arm has been snapped up. At this point it may be better to wait it out and see if prices drop. I’m less worried about that at the moment than the Jackson trade and leaving Skelton unprotected which can’t be undone.

]]> By: Steve in Kzoo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109790 Steve in Kzoo Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:44:09 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109790 Agreed Brenden and Andre. I just cannot believe that the Tigers would choose to remain with Fernando 'cant hit a glove' Rodney for closing. I just, I wont believe it until Spring Training. There has got to be something in progress to offset this horrible winter meetings. Besides Laird, and the good, IMHO, but very controversial Jackson trades, this has got to be the worst winter meetings for DD since he took over. Bullpen!! DD Wheres that bullpen help you said we would get. What we needed. Agh that is sooo disappointing!!! Cannot even try for Smoltz, or even for goodness sakes Hoffman!! WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN END BALLGAMES.....RODNEY CANT AND NEVER COULD!!! I don't care if DD thinks hes going to be great this year because of it being his contract year, that helped a lot for Pudge and others. Pudge's contract year was a joke, and see where it got him, not being signed as of today. God! DD you are really trying my patience, others say its the Jackson trade, I say its not building up a good bullpen. You cannot leave it in the hands of rookies, no matter how 'good' they seem. Man if they don't recover and get someone at the end of the bullpen, next season will be even harder to watch than this season, and I and a lot of people will be calling for the heads of Leyland. As for DD he may not get that second chance, as his head will also be called for. AGH how disappointing!! Agreed Brenden and Andre. I just cannot believe that the Tigers would choose to remain with Fernando ‘cant hit a glove’ Rodney for closing. I just, I wont believe it until Spring Training. There has got to be something in progress to offset this horrible winter meetings. Besides Laird, and the good, IMHO, but very controversial Jackson trades, this has got to be the worst winter meetings for DD since he took over. Bullpen!! DD Wheres that bullpen help you said we would get. What we needed. Agh that is sooo disappointing!!! Cannot even try for Smoltz, or even for goodness sakes Hoffman!! WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN END BALLGAMES…..RODNEY CANT AND NEVER COULD!!! I don’t care if DD thinks hes going to be great this year because of it being his contract year, that helped a lot for Pudge and others. Pudge’s contract year was a joke, and see where it got him, not being signed as of today. God! DD you are really trying my patience, others say its the Jackson trade, I say its not building up a good bullpen.

You cannot leave it in the hands of rookies, no matter how ‘good’ they seem. Man if they don’t recover and get someone at the end of the bullpen, next season will be even harder to watch than this season, and I and a lot of people will be calling for the heads of Leyland. As for DD he may not get that second chance, as his head will also be called for. AGH how disappointing!!

]]> By: walter55 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109788 walter55 Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:43:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109788 One guy on CBS thinks they are not going to add a closer and he also refers to Ryan Perry as "Rick" Perry so who knows how much he knows. He also says if Dontrelle doesn't have a good ST that he might get released. One guy on CBS thinks they are not going to add a closer and he also refers to Ryan Perry as “Rick” Perry so who knows how much he knows. He also says if Dontrelle doesn’t have a good ST that he might get released.

]]> By: Andre in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109786 Andre in Chicago Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:22:17 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109786 Loon, just so you know, on a day where our real-life counter parts seem to be dropping the ball, i've done my best to make up for your lack of posting today! Loon,

just so you know, on a day where our real-life counter parts seem to be dropping the ball, i’ve done my best to make up for your lack of posting today!

]]> By: Brenden http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109785 Brenden Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:04:12 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109785 Seriously....Not going after a closer.....I'm not even going to bother watching next season.....It is absolutely stupid of them to not go for a closer, who the frick is going to do the closing next year? Rodney? Zumaya? Robertson? Yeah...those are all great options....This team isn't serious about winning next year. It appears it will be a rebuilding year.... Seriously….Not going after a closer…..I’m not even going to bother watching next season…..It is absolutely stupid of them to not go for a closer, who the frick is going to do the closing next year? Rodney? Zumaya? Robertson? Yeah…those are all great options….This team isn’t serious about winning next year. It appears it will be a rebuilding year….

]]> By: Smoking Loon http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109784 Smoking Loon Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:59:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109784 “Tigers unlikely to add closer.” Wow. They could at least consider H-... that one guy. Oh well, it's all on Casey Fien's shoulders now. That simplifies things. “Tigers unlikely to add closer.”

Wow. They could at least consider H-… that one guy.

Oh well, it’s all on Casey Fien’s shoulders now. That simplifies things.

]]> By: Dave BW http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109782 Dave BW Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:50:30 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109782 MLBtraderumors now says "Tigers unlikely to add closer." Yikes. MLBtraderumors now says “Tigers unlikely to add closer.” Yikes.

]]> By: Andre in Chicago http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109779 Andre in Chicago Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:59:35 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109779 Chris in D, i gotcha, now i seem like a retarded idea... Chris in D,

i gotcha, now i seem like a retarded idea…

]]> By: Rick G http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109778 Rick G Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:58:31 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109778 Eddie Frickin' Bonine? They had to keep him on the 40 man roster instead of a guy with a career OBP of .416? Who catches? And bats left handed? And they wouldn't even have lost Bonine by not protecting him! So far, all of the Tigers' offseason moves fall into two categories: 1. Remain minimally competitive for 2009 2. Boneheaded roster management On the plus side, I've got a really sweet avatar! Eddie Frickin’ Bonine? They had to keep him on the 40 man roster instead of a guy with a career OBP of .416? Who catches? And bats left handed? And they wouldn’t even have lost Bonine by not protecting him!

So far, all of the Tigers’ offseason moves fall into two categories:
1. Remain minimally competitive for 2009
2. Boneheaded roster management

On the plus side, I’ve got a really sweet avatar!

]]> By: Chris in Dallas http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109774 Chris in Dallas Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:47:20 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109774 Dr. Dre: That's what I was getting at - since the LF porch is now shorter, they've given up on having any left handed hitters. All righties all the time, baby. Dr. Dre: That’s what I was getting at – since the LF porch is now shorter, they’ve given up on having any left handed hitters. All righties all the time, baby.

]]> By: Tbone http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109768 Tbone Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:52:29 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109768 So far - little evidence to give us any hope that we can pull ourselves out of the cellar in '09. Sigh. So far – little evidence to give us any hope that we can pull ourselves out of the cellar in ‘09. Sigh.

]]> By: Steve in Kzoo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109766 Steve in Kzoo Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:21:08 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109766 I think the Farnz should pitch in the NL since the AL seems to hard for the poor fellow. I mean seriously what happened to that guy. He used to be so good now he sux like IDK a AAAA player lol. I think the Farnz should pitch in the NL since the AL seems to hard for the poor fellow. I mean seriously what happened to that guy. He used to be so good now he sux like IDK a AAAA player lol.

]]> By: jud http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109765 jud Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:19:08 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109765 has Farnsworth been dumped by every team in the AL yet.....his next team should be the Budweiser Slowpitch Bombers has Farnsworth been dumped by every team in the AL yet…..his next team should be the Budweiser Slowpitch Bombers

]]> By: Steve in Kzoo http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109762 Steve in Kzoo Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:11:45 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109762 I agree that Skelton being off the 40 man roster was a head scratcher. Why in the world would we let a decent catching prospect go after really being in the hole with that position at the MLB level. DD has made some major mistakes last 24 hours(Jackson excluded, i know you guys don't like him but Joyce isn't going to be an all star- just a regular average corner fielder, which we have plenty of) why did we not pull the trigger in a three way deal for a dominant (when healthy) closer? Why did we leave off Skelton on the 40 man roster when these guys, MacBride, Lambert, Simons, Bonine are on it. (MacBride isn't even available to play due to surgery)? Well I'll take comfort we are just preparing for a '10 run. '09 is going to be a step back, but the CWS, MIN, KC are all going to be weakened as well, Cleveland will but our divisions powerhouse this year I think. I agree that Skelton being off the 40 man roster was a head scratcher. Why in the world would we let a decent catching prospect go after really being in the hole with that position at the MLB level. DD has made some major mistakes last 24 hours(Jackson excluded, i know you guys don’t like him but Joyce isn’t going to be an all star- just a regular average corner fielder, which we have plenty of) why did we not pull the trigger in a three way deal for a dominant (when healthy) closer? Why did we leave off Skelton on the 40 man roster when these guys, MacBride, Lambert, Simons, Bonine are on it. (MacBride isn’t even available to play due to surgery)? Well I’ll take comfort we are just preparing for a ‘10 run. ‘09 is going to be a step back, but the CWS, MIN, KC are all going to be weakened as well, Cleveland will but our divisions powerhouse this year I think.

]]> By: Dave BW http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-4/#comment-109761 Dave BW Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:11:08 +0000 http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/?p=3677#comment-109761 btw did you guys see the contract Farnsworth got from KC? Two years, 9 million. First the Jacobs trade, then Coco Crisp, and now this. The Kansas City Royals: Canceling out any minimal success with baffling front office ineptitude since 2003. btw did you guys see the contract Farnsworth got from KC? Two years, 9 million. First the Jacobs trade, then Coco Crisp, and now this. The Kansas City Royals: Canceling out any minimal success with baffling front office ineptitude since 2003.

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