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	<title>Comments on: Winter Meetings &#8211; Heading to Day 3</title>
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		<title>By: jri</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-3/#comment-109653</link>
		<dc:creator>jri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you think it a good trade for the Rays, Bill?  I guess I&#039;m trying to talk myself out of the rumors being accurate.  I feel like the Rays are in a position to get more of a guaranteed contributor.      

Also, want to let you know that this site has been a daily obsession for me since I found it last March, although I&#039;ve really never commented.  You and the regular participants do a great job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you think it a good trade for the Rays, Bill?  I guess I&#8217;m trying to talk myself out of the rumors being accurate.  I feel like the Rays are in a position to get more of a guaranteed contributor.      </p>
<p>Also, want to let you know that this site has been a daily obsession for me since I found it last March, although I&#8217;ve really never commented.  You and the regular participants do a great job.</p>
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		<title>By: billfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>billfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25 year old corner outfielders who are at a minimum average offensively and defensively while making the league minimum for 2 more years are pretty rare. At least harder to find than below average starters with K:BB ratios less than 1.5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25 year old corner outfielders who are at a minimum average offensively and defensively while making the league minimum for 2 more years are pretty rare. At least harder to find than below average starters with K:BB ratios less than 1.5</p>
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		<title>By: jri</title>
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		<dc:creator>jri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Joyce is gone for a pitcher, who is the lefty off the bench, and who is the backup CF?  Raburn can play center, but he hits right-handed.  Clete Thomas can play the whole outfield and hits lefty, but he has no power.  Larish can play the corners and is a lefty power bat, but keeping him on the roster would mean Inge plays center once in a while unless Grandy plays every inning.  This would probably have to mean there is another move in the works for Thames or Sheffield&#039;s Salary to loosen up a worsening roster crunch.

Not to mention, it is a weird trade for the Rays to give up a 25 year-old SP for a corner OF when corner OFs are a dime a dozen on the market right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Joyce is gone for a pitcher, who is the lefty off the bench, and who is the backup CF?  Raburn can play center, but he hits right-handed.  Clete Thomas can play the whole outfield and hits lefty, but he has no power.  Larish can play the corners and is a lefty power bat, but keeping him on the roster would mean Inge plays center once in a while unless Grandy plays every inning.  This would probably have to mean there is another move in the works for Thames or Sheffield&#8217;s Salary to loosen up a worsening roster crunch.</p>
<p>Not to mention, it is a weird trade for the Rays to give up a 25 year-old SP for a corner OF when corner OFs are a dime a dozen on the market right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Kzoo</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-3/#comment-109640</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve in Kzoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does he have options left Greg???  I was under the impression that last year was the last option he had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does he have options left Greg???  I was under the impression that last year was the last option he had.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Willis didn&#039;t even remotely resemble a major league pitcher last year.  You have to assume he starts the year in the minors and if/when he has a decent couple of months then you might consider bringing him back up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willis didn&#8217;t even remotely resemble a major league pitcher last year.  You have to assume he starts the year in the minors and if/when he has a decent couple of months then you might consider bringing him back up.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Kzoo</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-3/#comment-109638</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve in Kzoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot as well not only are Willis and Robertson fighting for that last rotation spot, but we forgot about Minor.  interesting now that we have a surplus of starters.  We should trade one, and see what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot as well not only are Willis and Robertson fighting for that last rotation spot, but we forgot about Minor.  interesting now that we have a surplus of starters.  We should trade one, and see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, I&#039;m not sure who&#039;s the odd man out but without both Willis / Robertson, the rotation has one lefty. Not an awful chip to trade, Joyce for a big league starter especially since he&#039;s currently blocked at both corner outfield spots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, I&#8217;m not sure who&#8217;s the odd man out but without both Willis / Robertson, the rotation has one lefty. Not an awful chip to trade, Joyce for a big league starter especially since he&#8217;s currently blocked at both corner outfield spots.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Kzoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in Kzoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well they are saying that his problem is his control with all sorts of pitches.  So if this great pitching coach we got is all that and his specialty is control then Jackson was a great trade.  Many on MLBTR and Foxsports are calling this thing a steal for both teams(some more for tigers).  I think its pretty even.  They get the OF cost of nothing, and we get another effective #3 Rotation Pitcher.  

The question is now, do we flip him for closer, do we keep him and trade or release nate or dontrelle.  Cause right now we are full in the rotation with a 6th man out.

1. Verlander
2. Bonderman
3. Jackson
4. Galarraga
5. Willis/Robertson

Whos the 6th odd man out??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well they are saying that his problem is his control with all sorts of pitches.  So if this great pitching coach we got is all that and his specialty is control then Jackson was a great trade.  Many on MLBTR and Foxsports are calling this thing a steal for both teams(some more for tigers).  I think its pretty even.  They get the OF cost of nothing, and we get another effective #3 Rotation Pitcher.  </p>
<p>The question is now, do we flip him for closer, do we keep him and trade or release nate or dontrelle.  Cause right now we are full in the rotation with a 6th man out.</p>
<p>1. Verlander<br />
2. Bonderman<br />
3. Jackson<br />
4. Galarraga<br />
5. Willis/Robertson</p>
<p>Whos the 6th odd man out??</p>
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		<title>By: Dave BW</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-3/#comment-109635</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave BW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been watching the rays for years and am a bit jaded, since Jackson has basically been a perpetual disappointment.  But he&#039;s young and throws hard, if you&#039;re into that sort of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been watching the rays for years and am a bit jaded, since Jackson has basically been a perpetual disappointment.  But he&#8217;s young and throws hard, if you&#8217;re into that sort of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-3/#comment-109634</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a link:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8922020/Wednesday-MLB-winter-meetings-blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link:</p>
<p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8922020/Wednesday-MLB-winter-meetings-blog" rel="nofollow">http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....tings-blog</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-3/#comment-109633</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know much about this guy but at least they still got their heads to the grindstone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know much about this guy but at least they still got their heads to the grindstone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave BW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave BW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, big one just went down:  Joyce to the Rays for Edwin Jackson.  I&#039;m not sure how I feel about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, big one just went down:  Joyce to the Rays for Edwin Jackson.  I&#8217;m not sure how I feel about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel in Seattle</title>
		<link>http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2008/12/winter-meetings-heading-to-day-3/#comment-109631</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel in Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mlbtraderumors sez the Mets are in on Putz - 3-way deal with the Indians. They&#039;re really trying to foil the Tigers, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mlbtraderumors sez the Mets are in on Putz &#8211; 3-way deal with the Indians. They&#8217;re really trying to foil the Tigers, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Joel in Seattle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel in Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Bavasi was still in Seattle, you trade for Putz. Now that they have a GM with a functioning brain, you don&#039;t trade for Putz. Unless this team can add a legit starter, they&#039;re a fringe contender at best. And trading away pieces of the future for 1-year rentals is a bad, bad policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Bavasi was still in Seattle, you trade for Putz. Now that they have a GM with a functioning brain, you don&#8217;t trade for Putz. Unless this team can add a legit starter, they&#8217;re a fringe contender at best. And trading away pieces of the future for 1-year rentals is a bad, bad policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Kzoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in Kzoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the double post but was a little late in editing my above post again.

Apparently its a deal that is not so close.  They are TRYING to work a deal for Putz.  Well there&#039;s always hope that the tigers can get something done but I think we are in for a bad and pathetic season.  Like i said above, with lots of late inning debacles and 9th inning pathetic pitching by our incapable Bullpen.

Our #1 issue this offseason, and we have done NOTHING to improve it.  I&#039;m starting to wonder if the Tigers FO and DD are just going through the motions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post but was a little late in editing my above post again.</p>
<p>Apparently its a deal that is not so close.  They are TRYING to work a deal for Putz.  Well there&#8217;s always hope that the tigers can get something done but I think we are in for a bad and pathetic season.  Like i said above, with lots of late inning debacles and 9th inning pathetic pitching by our incapable Bullpen.</p>
<p>Our #1 issue this offseason, and we have done NOTHING to improve it.  I&#8217;m starting to wonder if the Tigers FO and DD are just going through the motions.</p>
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