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By: Tigers 2009 WAR Projections - Pitchers

Tigers 2009 WAR Projections - Pitchers — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:53:30 +0000

[...] Thanks for visiting!Earlier in the week I posted my wins above replacement projections for the Tigers 2009 lineup. Today I turn my attention to the men on the [...]

By: Mark in Chicago

Mark in Chicago — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:06:38 +0000

billfer, any idea how other AL Central teams stack up in terms of WAR for the position players?

By: Vince in MN

Vince in MN — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:41:05 +0000

“The AL Central could be this year’s version of the NL West where you don’t have to be good to compete for a playoff spot. You just have to compete.”

Thank you billfer. Vince takes a deep breath, sighs and says “yes we can, yes we can, yes we can….”

Yeah, the salary structure does put them between a rock and a hard place as far as roster flexibility (read: rebuilding). Given the tepidness of the division I guess they have somewhat of a shot. Obviously the chances of the wild card coming out of the Central are practically nil, so depending on where they sit at the trading deadline, any additons/subractions to the team could be interesting. No 0-7 starts please.

By the way, is ther a WAR for managers? Oh, never mind.

By: Andre in Chicago

Andre in Chicago — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:24:35 +0000

“where you don’t have to be good to compete for a playoff spot. You just have to compete.”

sounds like the dating scene from my alma mater, we had a 75/25 ratio of ladies/fellas. you didn’t have to be good, you just had to be straight.

By: billfer

billfer — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:51:59 +0000

@vince in mn

I think there’s 2 things at work here. First, how can they rebuild? Nobody wants the big contracts. Outside of Polanco there isn’t a vet on the team that could fetch much and I don’t think you mean rebuild by trading Verlander/Granderson/Cabrera.

Second, look at the rest of the division. Who do you see as a clear 90 win team? I like Cleveland the best, but that’s hardly a slam dunk. The AL Central could be this year’s version of the NL West where you don’t have to be good to compete for a playoff spot. You just have to compete.

By: Vince in MN

Vince in MN — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:00:27 +0000

Ok, so 43 + 25 = 68. That means the pitching staff needs to be 13 WAR to get them to 81 and .500, 22 WAR (90 wins) to have an outside chance at the division title.

Why do I keep thinking that ‘09 SHOULD be a rebuilding year? What am I missing? Is it just my propensity to see the glass half empty rather than half full?

By: Coleman

Coleman — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:17:44 +0000

Andre in Chicago: “Penny isn’t worth a dime.”
Actually I thought that was a play on the title of the old blues song, “Penny aint worth no Dime.” (Stubbleneck Williams, but I’m sure you knew that…)

By: Coleman

Coleman — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:13:58 +0000

Joey the Harrington: “I just like the name, Tigers WAR Projections”

I was mildly disappointed it had nothing to do with Gary Sheffield or the Cleveland Indians…

By: Joey the K in Portland Or

Joey the K in Portland Or — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:55:55 +0000

I just like the name, Tigers WAR Projections. Here’s hoping to winning many battles and the war in 09!

By: Andre in Chicago

Andre in Chicago — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:57:33 +0000

“Penny isn’t worth a dime.”

Mr X,

you might be right literally (and literarily?); $0.01 doesn’t = $0.10, but you forgot to show your work. therefore, you only get partial-credit.

By: Mr X

Mr X — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:47:30 +0000

Penny isn’t worth a dime.

By: Robo-Tiger

Robo-Tiger — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:43:56 +0000

43 wins for a replacement level team…that seems about right…remember the 03 Tigers! no coincidence there.

By: billfer

billfer — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:11:49 +0000

@greg In the AL a replacement level team will win about 43 games.

By: Andre in Chicago

Andre in Chicago — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:08:13 +0000

Greg,

that depends on whether or not Hackman is coaching and if Keanu starts. but assuming the answer is yes, chances are the “replacements” win quite a few games, but fall just short of the playoffs.

By: Greg

Greg — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:21:50 +0000

What does this mean for the team? If the projections are correct, then we’re 24.9 wins above replacement, before getting to pitchers. How many games would a “replacement team” win?